Need info on obscure Flip Chip

2016-09-11 Thread Noel Chiappa

Need info on obscure Flip Chip

2016-09-11 Thread Noel Chiappa
Hi, I'm looking for information on a semi-obscure Flip Chip; an M826 (sort sort of combination clock/counter). I can't find out anything about it. Apparently the M8xx Flip Chips were generally custom modules intended for a specific device, which is probably why I can't find anything on it. I've

Re: obscure forgoten Machean of Europe?

2016-09-11 Thread Liam Proven
On 12 September 2016 at 01:29, Fred Cisin wrote: > > But NO macheans survived. Not one. > > > Clan MacHean in Scotland denies ever being involved with anything like that. > On the other hand, Clan MacPherson could really strut when it came to > automotive suspensions.

Re: Using a modern USB joystick on a vintage computer (Atari compatible)

2016-09-11 Thread Syd Bolton
I think this is what you are looking for: http://www.retronicdesign.com/en/ On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 14:57:16 -0700 (PDT), Cameron Kaiser wrote: I've seen plenty of examples of adapters to use a vintage joystick with a modern computer. I'd like the opposite - to use a

Re: Need info on obscure Flip Chip

2016-09-11 Thread Al Kossow
On 9/11/16 2:41 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > Hi, I'm looking for information on a semi-obscure Flip Chip; an M826 (sort > sort of combination clock/counter). I can't find out anything about it. > Apparently the M8xx Flip Chips were generally custom modules intended for > a specific device, which is

Re: Using a modern USB joystick on a vintage computer (Atari compatible)

2016-09-11 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> I've seen plenty of examples of adapters to use a vintage joystick with > a modern computer. > > I'd like the opposite - to use a USB controller with a vintage computer > (Atari compatible - for example ZX Spectrum, Commodore 64). Does anyone > know of an adapter or a homebrew project?

Re: obscure forgoten Machean of Europe?

2016-09-11 Thread Charles Anthony
On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: > On Sun, 11 Sep 2016, Adrian Stoness wrote: > >> so some actual macheans survived? love to see photos >> > > Many machines survived, including an amazing variety of machines that > Philips made, some of them being computer

Re: obscure forgoten Machean of Europe?

2016-09-11 Thread Paul Koning
> On Sep 11, 2016, at 5:03 AM, Camiel Vanderhoeven wrote: > > Op 11 sep. 2016 9:27 a.m. schreef "Adrian Stoness" : >> >> Phillips in Europe was not part of Phillips in the us was it's own company >> from what I've been able to find out the model I

Re: obscure forgoten Machean of Europe?

2016-09-11 Thread Adrian Stoness
so some actual macheans survived? love to see photos you've prolly seen the model? https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8302/7944707284_f8f4fa6ab8_b.jpg

Re: obscure forgoten Machean of Europe?

2016-09-11 Thread COURYHOUSE
SMECC is looking for any Philips Broadcast year new or old sorta like http://www.smecc.org/ldk20/philliconnector1.jpg which is one of our ldk-20 cameras... they can say on the side Philips, or later Thomson or BTS Philips was a great developer and implementer of CCD Technology in

Re: Need info on obscure Flip Chip

2016-09-11 Thread Lyle Bickley
On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 17:41:16 -0400 (EDT) j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa) wrote: > Hi, I'm looking for information on a semi-obscure Flip Chip; an M826 > (sort sort of combination clock/counter). I can't find out anything > about it. Apparently the M8xx Flip Chips were generally custom >

Re: Using a modern USB joystick on a vintage computer (Atari compatible)

2016-09-11 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> > > I've seen plenty of examples of adapters to use a vintage joystick > > > with > > > a modern computer. > > > > > > I'd like the opposite - to use a USB controller with a vintage > > > computer > > I think this is what you are looking for: > > http://www.retronicdesign.com/en/ No, he's

Re: obscure forgoten Machean of Europe?

2016-09-11 Thread Brent Hilpert
On 2016-Sep-11, at 11:09 AM, Paul Koning wrote: >> On Sep 11, 2016, at 1:25 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: >> >> ... >> I don't think anyone looks down on the more obscure machines, in fact I >> personally (and many others, I suspect) are very happy to see people paying >>

Re: Need info on obscure Flip Chip

2016-09-11 Thread Al Kossow
on page 343 of 835 editedOptionModuleLst_Apr83.pdf On 9/11/16 2:58 PM, Al Kossow wrote: > > > On 9/11/16 2:41 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: >> Hi, I'm looking for information on a semi-obscure Flip Chip; an M826 (sort >> sort of combination clock/counter). I can't find out anything about it. >>

Re: Need info on obscure Flip Chip

2016-09-11 Thread Noel Chiappa
Yes, I did see that list entry, but I was needing the pinout, a more detailed functional description, etc. Noel

Re: Finding developer docs for VME hardware?

2016-09-11 Thread Warner Losh
On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 1:03 PM, Al Kossow wrote: > > > On 9/11/16 9:08 AM, Warner Losh wrote: >> Most of the VME gear pre-dates folks putting it online on their web >> sites. This means that what exists is on paper and since there was >> never the fanatical devotion to

Re: obscure forgoten Machean of Europe?

2016-09-11 Thread Fred Cisin
On Sun, 11 Sep 2016, Adrian Stoness wrote: so some actual macheans survived? love to see photos Many machines survived, including an amazing variety of machines that Philips made, some of them being computer related. But NO macheans survived. Not one. Clan MacHean in Scotland denies

Re: 68K Macs with MacOS 7.5 still in production use...

2016-09-11 Thread Chris Hanson
This person was talking about 680x0-based Macs being “16-bit.” Ugh. -- Chris > On Sep 11, 2016, at 7:16 AM, Liam Proven wrote: > > http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=30456459#p30456459 > > Found via: > >

Re: Using a modern USB joystick on a vintage computer (Atari compatible)

2016-09-11 Thread Chris Osborn
On Sep 11, 2016, at 2:28 AM, Mark Wickens wrote: > I'd like the opposite - to use a USB controller with a vintage computer > (Atari compatible - for example ZX Spectrum, Commodore 64). Does anyone know > of an adapter or a homebrew project? I've been using a

Re: 68K Macs with MacOS 7.5 still in production use...

2016-09-11 Thread Chris Hanson
What do you mean by “retired,” and what kind of setup did you have for it? -- Chris > On Sep 11, 2016, at 11:10 AM, George Rachor wrote: > > I just retired my G4 cube (still working). Replaced it with a NOT NEW iMac. > > George Rachor > geo...@rachors.com

Re: Using a modern USB joystick on a vintage computer (Atari compatible)

2016-09-11 Thread Syd Bolton
Oh darn you are right sorry brain fart Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2016, at 8:26 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: I've seen plenty of examples of adapters to use a vintage joystick with a modern computer. I'd like the opposite - to use a USB

Re: obscure forgoten Machean of Europe?

2016-09-11 Thread Jon Elson
On 09/11/2016 01:39 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: On 09/11/2016 08:23 AM, Paul Koning wrote: Philips was founded around the end of the 19th century as a maker of light bulbs, got into vacuum tubes in the 1920s or so. Original name was N. V. Philips' Gloeilampenfabrieken Philips was into

Re: Using a modern USB joystick on a vintage computer (Atari compatible)

2016-09-11 Thread dwight
You can get a USB master shield for the Arduino cheaply enough. You can then use the Arduino's PWM output and analog input to translate joystick to DC voltage. One would need to put a lowpass filter on the PWM output. Another option would be to use a multiplying D/A instead for the output. I

Re: Finding developer docs for VME hardware?

2016-09-11 Thread Warner Losh
Most of the VME gear pre-dates folks putting it online on their web sites. This means that what exists is on paper and since there was never the fanatical devotion to preservation like the pdp-11 gear in that community, most of it is gone to the landfill. Plus DEC's documentation is way better

SWTPC GT-6144

2016-09-11 Thread Brad H
I am finally getting around to getting this GT-6144 graphics board working.  It seems pretty straightforward, however I am confused by the advice given re:use with the CT1024 vs 6800.  The instructions describe using it with either or, I think.  I'm wondering what the right way to hook up would

Re: obscure forgoten Machean of Europe?

2016-09-11 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 09/11/2016 11:09 AM, Paul Koning wrote: > It's not clear why this is so. Fewer collectors? Not much > commercial success for some or many of those machines? I think the biggest problem is that most of the systems were deployed in larger commercial or government enterprises and so off the

Re: obscure forgoten Machean of Europe?

2016-09-11 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 09/11/2016 08:23 AM, Paul Koning wrote: > Philips was founded around the end of the 19th century as a maker of > light bulbs, got into vacuum tubes in the 1920s or so. Philips was into everything. For simple appliances, most in North America were completely unaware of the parent company,

Re: obscure forgoten Machean of Europe?

2016-09-11 Thread Camiel Vanderhoeven
Op 11 sep. 2016 9:27 a.m. schreef "Adrian Stoness" : > > Phillips in Europe was not part of Phillips in the us was it's own company > from what I've been able to find out the model I have is from around 1968 > post a link to a pic when I'm not on my phone Philips (with a

Next order of MFM emulator/reader baords

2016-09-11 Thread David Gesswein
I will be ordering another batch of boards. If you wish to order more boards email me d...@pdp8online.com with how many and if bare, with surface mount chips, or fully assembled. If you currently are on the waiting list you don't need to reply. Info is here. http://www.pdp8online.com/mfm/ The

Re: obscure forgoten Machean of Europe?

2016-09-11 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Adrian Stoness > All seems we see is HP and Dec mostly talked about Well, don't forget that i) a lot of people (like me) are interested in things they worked with 'back in the day', and for many people, that is very likely to be DEC and HP machines, since they were very common,

Re: FW: Y Combinator is restoring one of Alan Kay's Xerox Alto machines

2016-09-11 Thread Joe Piche
On 9/10/2016 8:46 PM, CuriousMarc wrote: Video of session 6 is up: https://youtu.be/b7yVhMT7tr4 Found our first bad IC. Probably not our last one. On 9/3/16 11:08 PM, curiousma...@gmail.com wrote: Episode 5, still does not boot, but we are starting to follow long why:

Re: obscure forgoten Machean of Europe?

2016-09-11 Thread Paul Koning
> On Sep 11, 2016, at 1:25 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > ... > I don't think anyone looks down on the more obscure machines, in fact I > personally (and many others, I suspect) are very happy to see people paying > attention to them, and my respects to the people who are

Re: 68K Macs with MacOS 7.5 still in production use...

2016-09-11 Thread George Rachor
I just retired my G4 cube (still working). Replaced it with a NOT NEW iMac. George Rachor geo...@rachors.com > On Sep 11, 2016, at 7:16 AM, Liam Proven wrote: > > http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=30456459#p30456459 > > Found via: >

Re: obscure forgoten Machean of Europe?

2016-09-11 Thread Adrian Stoness
i relize that ive got a pile of dec myself but nice to get other stuff on radar to look out for. siemens went around buying out companies and dismantling them in the industrial world allot and still does kinda a piss of as some really good products have been tossed to the curb by them over the

Re: obscure forgoten Machean of Europe?

2016-09-11 Thread Paul Koning
> On Sep 10, 2016, at 11:31 PM, Adrian Stoness wrote: > > ... > What other obscure European Machean are out there? Siemens made minicomputers. I ran into one at the TU Eindhoven (ME department) where it controlled a precision plotter. 16 bit machine, with hex digits

Re: Finding developer docs for VME hardware?

2016-09-11 Thread Al Kossow
On 9/11/16 9:08 AM, Warner Losh wrote: > Most of the VME gear pre-dates folks putting it online on their web > sites. This means that what exists is on paper and since there was > never the fanatical devotion to preservation like the pdp-11 gear in > that community, most of it is gone to the

Re: obscure forgoten Machean of Europe?

2016-09-11 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 08:46:48AM +0200, Mattis Lind wrote: > > > Datasaab D16 was actually a rebranded Computer Automation Mini. You are > thinking about the D12. You are right. Based on the 4004. /P

68K Macs with MacOS 7.5 still in production use...

2016-09-11 Thread Liam Proven
http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=30456459#p30456459 Found via: http://arstechnica.com/apple/2016/09/an-os-9-odyssey-why-do-some-mac-users-still-rely-on-16-year-old-software/ -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk •

Re: 68K Macs with MacOS 7.5 still in production use...

2016-09-11 Thread George Rachor
My wife and I purchased the G4 cube, monitor, as well as enhanced sound package. It’s primary purchase was using it as a music server and some games. My wife was working with Apple II e’s and very early Mac’s at the time. Over time I had to replace a failing hard drive. I retired it last

RE: Next order of MFM emulator/reader baords

2016-09-11 Thread Rob Jarratt
> -Original Message- > From: cctech [mailto:cctech-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of David > Gesswein > Sent: 11 September 2016 15:51 > To: cct...@classiccmp.org > Subject: Next order of MFM emulator/reader baords > > I will be ordering another batch of boards. If you wish to order

Re: VC8E Option

2016-09-11 Thread Anders Sandahl
>On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 11:59 PM, Pontus Pihlgren >wrote: > > > >Hmm, yes, I think I might actually. What do you have so far? > > > >I don't have much yet, unfortunately; still trying to get my thoughts >together on how it should be implemented. Mark Pizzolato recommends

Re: obscure forgoten Machean of Europe?

2016-09-11 Thread Adrian Stoness
Phillips in Europe was not part of Phillips in the us was it's own company from what I've been able to find out the model I have is from around 1968 post a link to a pic when I'm not on my phone On Sep 10, 2016 11:44 PM, "Fred Cisin" wrote: > Clan MacHeans ne'er got involved

Re: obscure forgoten Machean of Europe?

2016-09-11 Thread Mattis Lind
> > > > What other obscure European Machean are out there? > > There are of course Norsk Data that made minis and micros (rumor has it > North Korea still runs ND). In Sweden we had Datasaab which made minis and > mainframes. I have a rare micro, the Datasaab D16 which is really a Facit > which is

Using a modern USB joystick on a vintage computer (Atari compatible)

2016-09-11 Thread Mark Wickens
I've seen plenty of examples of adapters to use a vintage joystick with a modern computer. I'd like the opposite - to use a USB controller with a vintage computer (Atari compatible - for example ZX Spectrum, Commodore 64). Does anyone know of an adapter or a homebrew project? Thanks, Mark.