RE: GT-40 etc.

> I'm going to disagree with Al, though - I don't think it's going to go > for that much, it's 'local pickup only'. That's going to severely limit > the bidder pool. For us non DEC aficionados why is there potential for the system to go for insane amounts of money? Does it have some rare piece of

RE: GT-40 etc.

> From: Ali > why is there potential for the system to go for insane amounts of money? I'm going to guess that Al had the GT40 in mind. (I wonder if that was named after the car, BTW?) I don't see anything else there that's _that_ desirable - the Diablo (aka RK02/RK03) is pretty rare,

Re: Spectre & Meltdown

> On Jan 13, 2018, at 1:08 PM, Murray McCullough via cctalk > wrote: > > I wrote about Spectre and Meltdown recently: INTEL took its time to inform > the world! Of course, and for good reason. The current practice has been carefully crafted by the consensus of

Re: DECtape madness

So, where were all these people when I was trying to clean out my old house a couple years ago? I threw out piles of tapes of various formats because I couldn't find anyone to take them for postage. I also threw out piles of other stuff (some of it old DEC and Sun kit) after offering it on eBay

Spectre & Meltdown

I wrote about Spectre and Meltdown recently: INTEL took its time to inform the world! Did it inform the world back in earlier days about potential flaws? Not to blame INTEL only: What about Zilog, etc.? Or did pre-Internet era protect us computer-classic users? What about running emulation

RE: Spectre & Meltdown

> I wrote about Spectre and Meltdown recently: INTEL took its time to > inform the world! Did it inform the world back in earlier days about > potential flaws? Not to blame INTEL only: What about Zilog, etc.? Or Yes, of course it did. The famous Pentium FDIV bug comes immediately to mind. Of

RE: Spectre & Meltdown

> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Murray > McCullough via cctalk > Sent: 13 January 2018 18:09 > To: cctalk > Subject: Spectre & Meltdown > > I wrote about Spectre and Meltdown recently: INTEL took its time to

Re: DECtape madness

On 01/13/2018 08:34 AM, David Bridgham via cctalk wrote: So why are reels of DECtape selling for unbelievable prices on eBait? See, e.g. here: I had those on my watch-list and just shake my head at the astonishing prices for the things. I've wondered if you might not make DECtape tape from

Re: DECtape madness

On 1/13/18 9:04 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > I don't know what you are talking about with Mylar on both sides. They were > conventional magnetic tape, a clear mylar > film with oxide applied to one side. the actual spec is here:

DECtape madness

So why are reels of DECtape selling for unbelievable prices on eBait? See, e.g. here: https://www.ebay.com/itm/372186744906 and here: https://www.ebay.com/itm/372186745609 I can't believe there are hordes of TU55/TU56 owners out there who desperately need media; so what is it? People who

Re: DECtape madness

> So why are reels of DECtape selling for unbelievable prices on eBait? See, > e.g. here: I had those on my watch-list and just shake my head at the astonishing prices for the things. I've wondered if you might not make DECtape tape from 3/4" video tape.  I know that DECtape has mylar on both

Re: DECtape madness

> On Jan 13, 2018, at 12:28 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk > wrote: > > > > On 1/13/18 9:04 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > >> I don't know what you are talking about with Mylar on both sides. They were >> conventional magnetic tape, a clear mylar >> film with oxide

Re: Gallery online: A collection of Soviet control rooms pictures

nice find On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 11:34 PM, Tomasz Rola via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > What the subject says. For control & analog aficionados. > > http://blog.presentandcorrect.com/27986-2 > > source: https://lobste.rs/s/ziu1uu/collection_soviet_control_rooms > > -- > Regards, >

Re: Spectre & Meltdown

> On Jan 13, 2018, at 1:22 PM, Dave Wade via cctalk > wrote: > > ... > It delayed telling the world to allow time for OS providers to apply fixes. > This is now standard and the delays are defined... > >

Re: DECtape madness

> On Jan 13, 2018, at 08:52, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk > wrote: > > So, where were all these people when I was trying to clean out > my old house a couple years ago? I threw out piles of tapes of > various formats because I couldn't find anyone to take them for >

Re: GT-40 etc.

On 1/13/2018 10:15 AM, Ali via cctalk wrote: I'm going to disagree with Al, though - I don't think it's going to go for that much, it's 'local pickup only'. That's going to severely limit the bidder pool. For us non DEC aficionados why is there potential for the system to go for insane

Re: GT-40 etc.

> From: Fritz Mueller > Definitely an RK11-C Ah; the dual-wide plug-in connector soldered onto the back kind of threw me a bit! > And it would make sense with the diablo and the RK05 in there. Right, but I wonder if the RK05 is on the same controller as the Diablo, or if the PDP-8

WTB: 1/2" 6250 CPI tape

Hello, I'm searching a source of good tape for a TU80 and a TU81 I have. I acquired some media from eBay, but all of that suffers of sticky problem and is unusable. Anybody has some to sell, or for give an advice of a seller of proven good tape? I wish prefer a seller in EU or UK, but even

Re: GT-40 etc.

On Jan 13, 2018, at 10:30 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > that exposed backplane above it _might_ be an RK11-C... Definitely an RK11-C — having recently restored one in my 11/45, I can see the flying components on the backplane here are in just the right places.

Re: DECtape madness

On 1/13/2018 6:20 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: So why are reels of DECtape selling for unbelievable prices on eBait? The ones in the post are from Bill Donzelli.  I'd imagine he's happy.  I looked at acquiring another one, but they went way high as you pointed out.  My friend with some

RE: Spectre & Meltdown

On Jan 13, 2018 11:22 AM, "Dave Wade via cctalk" wrote: > -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Murray > McCullough via cctalk > Sent: 13 January 2018 18:09 > To: cctalk > Subject: Spectre &

Re: Spectre & Meltdown

On Jan 13, 2018 11:36 AM, "Paul Koning via cctalk" wrote: > On Jan 13, 2018, at 1:22 PM, Dave Wade via cctalk wrote: > > ... > It delayed telling the world to allow time for OS providers to apply fixes. This is now standard and the delays are

Re: GT-40 etc.

wow On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 1:42 AM, Paul Anderson via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > I wonder what happened to the third rack... > > On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 4:24 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org > > wrote: > > > this is going to go for an insane amt of money > > > >

Re: GT-40 etc.

> From: Paul Anderson > I wonder what happened to the third rack... And the TU-56... I'm going to disagree with Al, though - I don't think it's going to go for that much, it's 'local pickup only'. That's going to severely limit the bidder pool. Noel

Re: Sold on eBay: Convergent Technologies S/50 a.k.a. Unix PC, AT 3B1 Unix Workstation

On 1/13/18 7:06 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > I'm just wondering if anybody here did (or knows who) bought this one. no, but I bought his miniframe, which is very clean. I used my mfm emulator to image the disks, I haven't had time yet to see what condition the cartridge tapes are

Re: Sold on eBay: Convergent Technologies S/50 a.k.a. Unix PC, AT 3B1 Unix Workstation

Bill, you're talking about the seller, yes? That's fantastic! I totally missed the MiniFrame auction altogether. A completed listings lookup found it: http://ebay.to/2DwNamo I'm VERY glad that you have that! Previous to you mentioning this, I've only been aware of one MiniFrame (I've

Re: GT-40 etc.

On Jan 13, 2018, at 1:09 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > Ah; the dual-wide plug-in connector soldered onto the back kind of threw me a > bit! Yeah it’s a bit weird, but mine has that too. It’s a pass-through, and It turns out, handily, that that you can plug in a

Gallery online: A collection of Soviet control rooms pictures

What the subject says. For control & analog aficionados. http://blog.presentandcorrect.com/27986-2 source: https://lobste.rs/s/ziu1uu/collection_soviet_control_rooms -- Regards, Tomasz Rola -- ** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature. ** ** As the answer, master did

Re: Spectre & Meltdown

On Sat, 13 Jan 2018, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: I wrote about Spectre and Meltdown recently: INTEL took its time to inform the world! Did it inform the world back in earlier days about potential flaws? Not to blame INTEL only: What about Zilog, etc.? Or did pre-Internet era protect us

Re: Spectre & Meltdown

On 1/13/2018 3:24 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: (I'm unaware of any punch-card attacks, but trojans were possible when people used prior subroutines) When I was using cards with our campus 360/50 MVT system and you could submit probably anything, a friend in EE (we were squatters in the CS

Re: Spectre & Meltdown

Although reduction in sneaker-net has virtually eliminated boot-sector spread. On Sun, 14 Jan 2018, Tapley, Mark wrote: I never made that connection before! Glad you toed me. There had already been some reduction. The first PCs with a hard disk would always attempt to boot from floppy

Sold on eBay: Convergent Technologies S/50 a.k.a. Unix PC, AT 3B1 Unix Workstation

I'm just wondering if anybody here did (or knows who) bought this one. http://ebay.to/2DaRr13 Even though these were all manufactured by Convergent Technologies, this one is actually BRANDED by Convergent, as their model S/50. And there's software included here. I tried to buy myself, but just

Re: GT-40 etc.

That one is going to go for an insane amount of money:

Re: Spectre & Meltdown

On Jan 13, 2018, at 5:24 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > Although reduction in sneaker-net has virtually eliminated boot-sector spread. I never made that connection before! Glad you toed me.

Re: DECtape madness

On 01/13/2018 11:28 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: On 1/13/18 9:04 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: I don't know what you are talking about with Mylar on both sides. They were conventional magnetic tape, a clear mylar film with oxide applied to one side. the actual spec is here:

Re: Spectre & Meltdown

On 1/13/2018 3:24 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > (I'm unaware of any punch-card attacks, but trojans were possible when > people used prior subroutines). Depends on what you mean "attack". CDC 6000 SCOPE had two PP programs (which could be invoked via user control card). One was

Re: Spectre & Meltdown

On 01/13/2018 05:40 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > All of this reminds me of a trick that I witnessed on a Model 40 running > DOS/360. Some guy wrote a chained CCW set with a TIC back to the > beginning of the list of CCBs that rang the bell on the 1052 operator's > console and locked the

Re: Sold on eBay: Convergent Technologies S/50 a.k.a. Unix PC, AT 3B1 Unix Workstation

Notice it has an AT mouse!! bill From: cctalk on behalf of AJ Palmgren via cctalk Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 10:02 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Sold on eBay: