it's too bad that I am on the other side of the great pond . I would have
been very interested in it :-(
Pierre
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Pierre's collection of classic computers moved to:
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On 10/21/18 7:12 PM, Ken Shirriff via cctalk wrote:
> Someone pointed out this CDC disk drive on Craigslist in the Washington DC
> area:
> https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/zip/d/early-computer-era-rolling/6728728220.html
>
> I have no connection to this, and don't know anything about it,
On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 at 12:50, Yvan Janssens via cctalk
wrote:
>
> So, I have built a USB adapter for my 5150’s keyboard. The experience is
> actually quite bad, as stated earlier. The main reason why I still use it
> is because I took it with me from Belgium - it’s a French keyboard, and
> having
On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 at 19:31, Tomasz Rola via cctalk
wrote:
> Oooh. My personal recollection about w95 is that there was a lot of
> touting before the premiere day, how advanced it was because "object
> oriented operating system". The premiere came, the toutings quickly
> faded away, never heard
[ Accidentally only sent to Eric originally ]
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 3:41 PM Eric Smith wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 20, 2018, 01:46 Jim Manley via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>> The Softcard was a Z-80 based single-board
>> computer
>
>
> It wasn't. It was only a processor card.
>
Eric,
I'm going to stand
On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 21:01, ben via cctalk wrote:
> Is just me, but is keyboad input geting slower and slower on web stuff,
> even the old 110 buad tty gave better response running under a PDP/8.
https://danluu.com/input-lag/
Summary: no, it's not just you.
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 at 16:28, Jim Manley via cctalk
wrote:
>
> I'm going to stand by my assertion that the Softcard was a single-board
> computer on the technicality that it did have its own RAM - you apparently
> forget that registers are a form of RAM - HA! They're memory, they're
> addressed
Hi Bill, thanks for your reply. It would be cool to see this brochure - can you
put it on a scanner? So you did not work with those yourself? Thanks again,
Erik.
Am 22. Oktober 2018 08:38:14 GMT-06:00 schrieb Bill Degnan
:
>While we are on the subject of Rolm I was curious and found in my docs
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018, 02:36 Jim Manley wrote:
Microsoft did offer a RAM expansion board specifically to allow the
Softcard to access 64K of RAM dedicated to CP/M,
Even that wasn't dedicated to CP/M. It was a 16K RAM card that was
equivalent to the Apple "Language Card", which allowed replacing
While we are on the subject of Rolm I was curious and found in my docs
library a Rolm 1601 Sales brochure with some tech info/parts/prices. Heavy
duty machines for sure.
Bill
On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 2:25 PM Erik Baigar via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Paul, thanks for your
On Oct 20, 2018, at 10:31 AM, Tomasz Rola via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Oooh. My personal recollection about w95 is that there was a lot of
> touting before the premiere day, how advanced it was because "object
> oriented operating system”.
[...]
> I might have been one of the very few people who not
Greetings all...
I have been pondering something and would love to receive feedback from
you. The thing
is, I would like to have something pdp8-ish that would allow me to play
a little bit
with the programming languages that were available for these machines,
FORTRAN 4K and
FORTRAN IV in
The desk top metaphor goes back to at least Doug Englebarts work in the 1960s.
There were no icons, but the basic metaphor was there.
You need to be careful when you talk about Smalltalk since there were several
quite different versions of it. The early versions were far more interesting
and
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 11:39 PM Carlos E Murillo-Sanchez via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Greetings all...
>
> I have been pondering something and would love to receive feedback from
> you. The thing
> is, I would like to have something pdp8-ish that would allow me to play
> a
Hi Carlos,
With the cost of PDP-8 parts and the need for maintenance and repair, if
you can find an emulator that will do what you want, go for it.
Paul
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 10:39 PM Carlos E Murillo-Sanchez via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Greetings all...
>
> I have been
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 9:11 PM Mark Green via cctalk
wrote:
> The desk top metaphor goes back to at least Doug Englebarts work in the
> 1960s. There were no icons, but the basic metaphor was there.
>
> You need to be careful when you talk about Smalltalk since there were
> several quite
Hi Peter, sorry I have no items to pary with. Just trying to preserve the
legacy of the early Rolms by keeping one unit up and running and having some
spares. Anything special you are looking for (a 1666B is for auction on eBay
right now)? Best wishes, Erik.
Am 22. Oktober 2018 12:28:34
I would be interested in any Rolm items you might have. (no promises.)
Thanks,
Peter VP
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Hi Al,
I work at the RWTH Aachen and will contact him. I'd be happy to save the books
from being thrown away.
All the best,
Pierre
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On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 at 12:55, Adam Sampson via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Do you mean sold up to that point? Amstrad went on to sell several
> million PCWs with CP/M later in the 1980s. (They say 8 million on
> http://www.amstrad.com/products/archive/, but that includes the
> much less popular PCW16 which
I received this message this morning, if someone in Germany would like a data
book collection
"The computer club at the RWTH Aachen University has to move from a larger
collection of semiconductor data books. These
are 2..3 steel cabinets full of data books of various manufacturers, for which
On 10/22/2018 10:57 AM, Rick Bensene via cctalk wrote:
X-Windows-based desktop metaphor UI's existed within the Unix world long before
Win95 came on the scene.
The whole desktop metaphor UI existed long before Windows 95 in non-Unix
implementations by Xerox PARC (Palo Alto Research Center)
I just rescued a DG S-130 from a scrapper. The rack was being pulled out of
a trailer with a
Excavator. So the nice rack and the hard drive where crushed. The S-130
seems to be repairable, with mostly sheet metal damage. The front panels
where both crushed. I would guess these are
On 10/22/2018 08:14 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
*Every* Unix desktop out there draws on Win95.
Nope. That's simply not true.
The following three vast families of window managers / desktops prove
(to my satisfaction) that your statement is wrong.
· Common Desktop Environment (a.k.a.
On 10/22/2018 2:56 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
On 10/22/2018 01:19 PM, ben via cctalk wrote:
I hate GUI's,because I hate ICON's. I see a little hand popup, is a
mouse pointer,stop that sign, or play feel the naked photo.
It's perfectly possible to use GUIs without any icons.
It's
Some corrections related to Mach and Apple.
TTFN - Guy
> On Oct 22, 2018, at 2:40 PM, Jim Manley via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>
>
> BTW, MacOS X is based on Mach, the version of Unix that was designed for
> multiple, closely-coupled processors, and it, too, uses X as a basis for
> its GUI.
No.
On 10/22/2018 01:19 PM, ben via cctalk wrote:
I hate GUI's,because I hate ICON's. I see a little hand popup, is a
mouse pointer,stop that sign, or play feel the naked photo.
It's perfectly possible to use GUIs without any icons.
It's possible to use GUIs without a mouse.
The GUI is not
Hi Liam,
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 8:15 AM Liam Proven via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> Cairo was intended to be semi "object oriented" ...
>
This reference to "object-oriented" is way off, conflating GUI "objects"
and true object-oriented software. OO in code has nothing to do
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018, Jim Manley via cctalk wrote:
windowing desktop per user, while X Window not only supports multiple
desktops per user (each with its own context that can be swapped in to
occupy the display area), but natively supports remote desktop access from
a number of users over
At 04:40 PM 10/22/2018, Jim Manley via cctalk wrote:
>As for multitasking, even Windows 10 can easily get bogged down where the
>GUI becomes essentially unresponsive to user actions. MS has never grasped
>that it should never be possible to wind up in a situation where the user
>is stuck watching
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 4:16 PM John Foust via cctalk
wrote:
> At 04:40 PM 10/22/2018, Jim Manley via cctalk wrote:
> >As for multitasking, even Windows 10 can easily get bogged down where the
> >GUI becomes essentially unresponsive to user actions. MS has never
> grasped
> >that it should
Liam Proven wrote:
>On the one hand, the cosmetics. *Every* Unix desktop out there draws
>on Win95.
I take exception to the "*Every*" in Liam's statement above.
Replacing "Unix" with "Linux" would make the statement more correct.
X-Windows-based desktop metaphor UI's existed within the Unix
As they used to say, Windows95 = Mac 1984. Which is pushing it a bit but has
some truth in it... Maybe Mac 1990. Curiously, the Xerox Alto has quite
advanced GUI and object oriented programming (including the smalltalk windowing
environment), but no desktop metaphor or icons that I have seen. I
On 10/22/2018 03:13 PM, ben via cctalk wrote:
What do you call the TEXT based mouse interface, like found on some dos
shells.
I tend to use the term "(mouse) cursor" for both text and GUI.
GUI I think of is the pure graphics.
What is a graphic?
Does a traditional text (extend ASCII
On 10/22/2018 05:15 PM, John Foust via cctalk wrote:
You've discovered some computer that doesn't ever crash?
Hmmm, well, my home desktop has been up 478 days, my web
server has been up 232 days, and my Asterisk phone system
has been up for 571 days. The web server is directly on the
WAN,
> You've discovered some computer that doesn't ever crash?
They used to be called "IBM Midrange".
--
Will (don't call them minicomputers!)
You've discovered some computer that doesn't ever crash?
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
Hmmm, well, my home desktop has been up 478 days, my web server has been up
232 days, and my Asterisk phone system has been up for 571 days. The web
server is directly on the WAN, and
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