Re: Core memory emulator using non volatile ram.

2018-12-16 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 12/16/18 11:21 AM, Paul Koning wrote: > If you simply want non-volatile memory, the obvious answer is SRAM with > battery backup and a small FPGA to do the interfacing. I proposed nvRAM - CMOS SRAM backed by cell-for-cell flash. Loads SRAM from flash on power-up and stores into flash at powe

Re: Core memory emulator using non volatile ram.

2018-12-16 Thread Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk
> On Dec 16, 2018, at 8:21 PM, allison via cctech wrote: > > On 12/15/2018 03:51 PM, Jon Elson via cctech wrote: >> On 12/15/2018 02:45 PM, Anders Nelson via cctalk wrote: >>> Serial flash has an endurance between 10K-100K writes per cell so I >>> think >>> that would break down quickly. Wear-l

Re: Core memory emulator using non volatile ram.

2018-12-16 Thread allison via cctalk
On 12/15/2018 09:32 PM, Charles Anthony via cctech wrote: > On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 6:15 PM Rod G8DGR via cctalk > wrote: > >> All very interesting.. 1201 alarm while I deal will all of the information >> Rod >> >> > 1202 coming up... > > I don't know specifically about the various memory types be

Re: Core memory emulator using non volatile ram.

2018-12-16 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
I put  focal in it...I leave  focal in it...  then I turn on the power  it talks focal to  a tty! ( for  grains  want   copy  of  focal  11  for the 11/20  too...)   But  definitely  want to  see focal on a  little omnibus 8! Just like that famous night in 1979.. Life  is  good    Ed#   In

Re: Core memory emulator using non volatile ram.

2018-12-16 Thread allison via cctalk
On 12/15/2018 03:51 PM, Jon Elson via cctech wrote: > On 12/15/2018 02:45 PM, Anders Nelson via cctalk wrote: >> Serial flash has an endurance between 10K-100K writes per cell so I >> think >> that would break down quickly. Wear-leveling on a serial device would be >> very slow... >> >> > If you in

Re: Core memory emulator using non volatile ram.

2018-12-16 Thread allison via cctalk
On 12/16/2018 10:07 PM, ben via cctech wrote: > On 12/16/2018 8:00 PM, allison via cctech wrote: > >> In the end, current generation CMOS ram is the easy out, battery is >> small, cost is small,  and >> produces much less of the heat that is killer to systems.   The only >> reason to do that is cor

Re: Core memory emulator using non volatile ram.

2018-12-16 Thread ben via cctalk
On 12/16/2018 8:00 PM, allison via cctech wrote: In the end, current generation CMOS ram is the easy out, battery is small, cost is small,  and produces much less of the heat that is killer to systems.   The only reason to do that is core cost big if you can find it for your machine.  I can cost

RE: Core memory emulator using non volatile ram.

2018-12-16 Thread Rod G8DGR via cctalk
Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: ben via cctech Sent: 17 December 2018 03:08 To: cct...@classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Core memory emulator using non volatile ram. On 12/16/2018 8:00 PM, allison via cctech wrote: > In the end, current generation CMOS ram is the easy out, battery is > small, c

Hayes Transet Manual and Software

2018-12-16 Thread Jason T via cctalk
One of my few remaining Holy Grail items, I got a Hayes Transet 1000 this week. My three-part Hayes stack is now complete. I've scanned the manual and quick-ref card. The scan is not up to the quality of my usual work, as I tried a new technique using a DSLR instead of a scanner so I wouldn't ha

Re: flashx20 - Floppy and screen for the Epson HX-20

2018-12-16 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On December 16, 2018 at 11:14 PM allison via cctalk wrote: On Sun, 16 Dec 2018, Norbert Kehrer via cctalk wrote: I have not tested it, but I suppose, that also the PX-8 and PX-4 used the protocol, because the protocol specification defines the following device numbers: - HX-20: 0x20 (probabl

Re: flashx20 - Floppy and screen for the Epson HX-20

2018-12-16 Thread Will Cooke via cctalk
> On December 16, 2018 at 11:14 PM allison via cctalk wrote: > > > On Sun, 16 Dec 2018, Norbert Kehrer via cctalk wrote: > >> I have not tested it, but I suppose, that also the PX-8 and PX-4 used > >> the protocol, > >> because the protocol specification defines the following device num

Re: flashx20 - Floppy and screen for the Epson HX-20

2018-12-16 Thread allison via cctalk
On 12/16/2018 10:59 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > On Sun, 16 Dec 2018, Norbert Kehrer via cctalk wrote: >> I have not tested it, but I suppose, that also the PX-8 and PX-4 used >> the protocol, >> because the protocol specification defines the following device numbers: >> - HX-20: 0x20 (probab

Re: flashx20 - Floppy and screen for the Epson HX-20

2018-12-16 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Sun, 16 Dec 2018, Norbert Kehrer via cctalk wrote: I have not tested it, but I suppose, that also the PX-8 and PX-4 used the protocol, because the protocol specification defines the following device numbers: - HX-20: 0x20 (probably also used for the HC-20) - PX-8: 0x22 - PX-4: 0x23 That i

THE GHOST IN ED'S COMPUTER

2018-12-16 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
Hi - Tomasz   NO   not that  I  recreated what  happened when i was  going to send another  email but...  heh!   caught it in  time!   Seems sometimes  the  prior  cut  segment stays in the    paste buffer thing..  Yes,    I was   worried   for a  while  also.      In a message dated 12/16/2018

Re: remove bad yelpMATERIAL INGEST. adams associates COMPUTER CHARACTERISTICS QUARTERLY 1963

2018-12-16 Thread Tomasz Rola via cctalk
On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 05:06:06PM -0500, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: > CORRECTION>>>   Should have  said  there are  some  days  I wish I > could  cut  out HALF the nerve  fibers in my  hands to destroy them Sorry about that. However, there is a chance you (or your device) has been posessed by a

Re: HUNTING EXISTENCE OF NCR 304 COMPUTER PCB BOARD PIX IS THERE ONE OF THESE EVEN LEFT?

2018-12-16 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
crickets?   does anyone  know what I am talking about?    Maybe this is  one of the great   unseen systems... In a message dated 12/16/2018 3:10:09 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:   HUNTING EXISTENCE OF NCR 304 COMPUTER PCB BOARD PIX IS THERE ONE OF THESE EVEN LEF

was...Re: 8-Update NOW I  would  like to  get one of the   little  boards  with the  pdp 8 on a microprocessor that is a little  single board  computer  too...  for the museum  but  also  to  play 

2018-12-16 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
I  would  like to  get one of the   little  boards  with the  pdp 8 on a microprocessor that is a little  single board  computer  too...  for the museum  but  also  to  play  with... In a message dated 12/16/2018 12:38:35 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:   On 12/1

HUNTING EXISTENCE OF NCR 304 COMPUTER PCB BOARD PIX IS THERE ONE OF THESE EVEN LEFT?

2018-12-16 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
HUNTING EXISTENCE OF NCR 304 COMPUTER PCB BOARD PIX IS THERE ONE OF THESE EVEN LEFT?

Re: remove bad yelpMATERIAL INGEST. adams associates COMPUTER CHARACTERISTICS QUARTERLY 1963

2018-12-16 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
CORRECTION>>>   Should have  said  there are  some  days  I wish I could  cut  out HALF the nerve  fibers in my  hands to destroy them   In a message dated 12/16/2018 2:49:00 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:   wdonze...@gmail.com et al actually there are  some  days 

Re: remove bad yelpMATERIAL INGEST. adams associates COMPUTER CHARACTERISTICS QUARTERLY 1963

2018-12-16 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
wdonze...@gmail.com et al actually there are  some  days  I wish I could  cut  have the nerve  fibers in my  hands to destroy them.  Not a   good  time   but  some  days it is  what  it  is...   beats  having no hands at all I  suppose.   Ed#   In a message dated 12/16/2018 2:42:51 PM US Mounta

ok but we did get some cool EAI stuff... sometimes I kist stuff as this in case there is similare interest or needs

2018-12-16 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
MATERIAL INGEST ADAMS ASSOCIATES COMPUTER CHARACTERISTICS QUARTERLY 1963 HAVE ONE A LITTLE CUTE LOOKS AS NEW POCKET GUIDE I SEE ONE IN  GOOGLE SCANNED FROM 67 SO DO NOT KNOW THIS NEEDS TO BE OR?  ALSO A EAI POCKET CALENDAR APPOINTMENT REMINDER BUT AS NEW NO  FASCINATING NOTES ALAS..  ALSO A 67

Re: remove bad yelpMATERIAL INGEST. adams associates COMPUTER CHARACTERISTICS QUARTERLY 1963

2018-12-16 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> Ed's having word salad for lunch. Again. But the lunch was bad, so he wrote a bad review, but now regrets it. -- Will

Re: remove bad yelpMATERIAL INGEST. adams associates COMPUTER CHARACTERISTICS QUARTERLY 1963

2018-12-16 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
disregard  I have no  idea  what happened    sorry  folks sometimes  i  go  to  cut and paste and  click and cut  things  wrong on a muscle in  fingers  twitches and  hammers  finger  down and ...     spaces   added   to authenticate     this is  really   me  and  not  a      software  bot!

Re: remove bad yelpMATERIAL INGEST. adams associates COMPUTER CHARACTERISTICS QUARTERLY 1963

2018-12-16 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Sun, 16 Dec 2018, Kyle Owen via cctalk wrote: On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 14:00 ED SHARPE via cctalk How to Remove Bad Yelp Reviews (and Report Fake Yelp Reviews)MATERIAL INGEST ADAMS ASSOCIATES COMPUTER CHARACTERISTICS QUARTERLY 1963 HAVE ONE A LITTLE CUTE LOOKS AS NEW POCKET GUIDE

Re: remove bad yelpMATERIAL INGEST. adams associates COMPUTER CHARACTERISTICS QUARTERLY 1963

2018-12-16 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 12/16/2018 02:05 PM, Kyle Owen via cctalk wrote: On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 14:00 ED SHARPE via cctalk How to Remove Bad Yelp Reviews (and Report Fake Yelp Reviews)MATERIAL INGEST ADAMS ASSOCIATES COMPUTER CHARACTERISTICS QUARTERLY 1963 HAVE ONE A LITTLE CUTE LOOKS AS NEW POCKET GUIDE

Re: remove bad yelpMATERIAL INGEST. adams associates COMPUTER CHARACTERISTICS QUARTERLY 1963

2018-12-16 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Sun, 16 Dec 2018, Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote: did ed get hacked? Well, it's definitely his typing. Ed, if you are being held hostage, send a post without extra spaces/characters. On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 2:05 PM Kyle Owen via cctalk wrote: On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 14:00 ED SHARPE v

Re: remove bad yelpMATERIAL INGEST. adams associates COMPUTER CHARACTERISTICS QUARTERLY 1963

2018-12-16 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Sun, 16 Dec 2018, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: How to Remove Bad Yelp Reviews (and Report Fake Yelp Reviews)MATERIAL INGEST?? ??ADAMS ASSOCIATES?? ??COMPUTER CHARACTERISTICS QUARTERLY 1963 ?? HAVE ONE?? A?? LITTLE?? CUTE?? LOOKS?? AS?? ??NEW POCKET?? GUIDE?? ?? I?? ??SEE ONE IN GOOGLE?? SCANN

Re: remove bad yelpMATERIAL INGEST. adams associates COMPUTER CHARACTERISTICS QUARTERLY 1963

2018-12-16 Thread Adrian Stoness via cctalk
did ed get hacked? On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 2:05 PM Kyle Owen via cctalk wrote: > On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 14:00 ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: > > > > > How to Remove Bad Yelp Reviews (and Report Fake Yelp Reviews)MATERIAL > > INGEST ADAMS ASSOCIATES COMPUTER CHARACTERISTICS QUARTERLY 1963 > > >

Re: remove bad yelpMATERIAL INGEST. adams associates COMPUTER CHARACTERISTICS QUARTERLY 1963

2018-12-16 Thread Kyle Owen via cctalk
On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 14:00 ED SHARPE via cctalk > How to Remove Bad Yelp Reviews (and Report Fake Yelp Reviews)MATERIAL > INGEST ADAMS ASSOCIATES COMPUTER CHARACTERISTICS QUARTERLY 1963 > > HAVE ONE A LITTLE CUTE LOOKS AS NEW POCKET GUIDEI SEE ONE IN > GOOGLE SCANNED FROM 67

remove bad yelpMATERIAL INGEST. adams associates COMPUTER CHARACTERISTICS QUARTERLY 1963

2018-12-16 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
How to Remove Bad Yelp Reviews (and Report Fake Yelp Reviews)MATERIAL INGEST    ADAMS ASSOCIATES   COMPUTER CHARACTERISTICS QUARTERLY 1963   HAVE ONE  A  LITTLE  CUTE  LOOKS  AS   NEW POCKET  GUIDE    I   SEE ONE IN GOOGLE  SCANNED   FROM  67  SO DO NOT KNOW THIS  NEEDS TO BE  OR?   ALSO  A  EAI

Re: Core memory emulator using non volatile ram.

2018-12-16 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Sun, 16 Dec 2018, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: made, but if they are still being made they might not be too bad. I'm not sure 3D-printed housings would be strong enough for this, but maybe if ABS PLA is actually a stiffer plastic than ABS. That being said, PETG might be a better choice du

Re: 8-Update

2018-12-16 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On 12/16/18 1:14 AM, Paul Birkel via cctalk wrote: I don't have a 3D printer, Check out the "Ender3" series. Open source design, multiple manufacturers (some with enhancements), and starting at just over $200 ! Can connect to computer, or stand-alone, working from content on micro-SD card.

Re: 8-Update

2018-12-16 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 12/15/18 11:36 PM, Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote: > However I began to think would it be possible to create a close copy of an   > 8/e out of  modern parts. Redoing the CPU in obtanium TTL would be desirable.

Re: Core memory emulator using non volatile ram.

2018-12-16 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Dec 15, 2018, at 1:55 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > > On 12/15/18 10:01 AM, Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk wrote: >> FRAM or MRAM. I make extensive use of them in my projects. >> >> Everspin has a few (all SMT and 3.3v). As I recall they run ~$20/ea for 4Mb >> (512K x 8 or 256K

RE: Core memory emulator using non volatile ram.

2018-12-16 Thread Rod G8DGR via cctalk
Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Jon Elson via cctech Sent: 16 December 2018 16:43 To: Rod G8DGR; gene...@ezwind.net; discuss...@ezwind.net:On-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Core memory emulator using non volatile ram. On 12/15/2018 11:19 PM, Rod G8DGR via cctech wrote: > > > However I began to t

Re: 8-Update

2018-12-16 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 12/16/18 1:14 AM, Paul Birkel via cctalk wrote: I don't have a 3D printer, I've found that maker spaces and some computer stores (notably Microcenter) have 3D printers and seem quite happy to help people use them. (Membership, training, feeds not withstanding.) I've also heard of some 3

Re: Core memory emulator using non volatile ram.

2018-12-16 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 12/15/2018 11:19 PM, Rod G8DGR via cctech wrote: However I began to think would it be possible to create a close copy of an 8/e out of modern parts. Finally the big one – Omnibus and the connectors its made from. A 3D printing candidate? I’m going to autopsy a busted connector and see

Re: Core memory emulator using non volatile ram.

2018-12-16 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
Anyone building  8 omnibus  batter  backed up core  replacement  currently  that  is  available off the  shelf reasonably for   8 m,e and  f? (( Smaller  size  board  than the   8a   would accept   for memory as I  remember..))   Have  a 8 m or  f  in my  den on a  shelf...   as  as I  best  re

RE: Core memory emulator using non volatile ram.

2018-12-16 Thread Rod G8DGR via cctalk
Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: allison via cctech Sent: 16 December 2018 03:08 To: cct...@classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Core memory emulator using non volatile ram. On 12/15/2018 01:01 PM, Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctech wrote: > FRAM or MRAM. I make extensive use of them in my projects. > > E

flashx20 - Floppy and screen for the Epson HX-20

2018-12-16 Thread Norbert Kehrer via cctalk
/On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 5:47 PM Norbert Kehrer via cctalk />/ > wrote: />>/With that, you get a big screen (the PC monitor) and disk space for />>/programs and data on the PC's hard disk, which can then also be used for />>/data and program exch

Re: Core memory emulator using non volatile ram.

2018-12-16 Thread Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk
> On Dec 15, 2018, at 7:09 PM, allison via cctech wrote: > > On 12/15/2018 01:01 PM, Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctech wrote: >> FRAM or MRAM. I make extensive use of them in my projects. >> >> Everspin has a few (all SMT and 3.3v). As I recall they run ~$20/ea for 4Mb >> (512K x 8 or 256K x 16).

Re: Core memory emulator using non volatile ram.

2018-12-16 Thread allison via cctalk
On 12/15/2018 01:01 PM, Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctech wrote: > FRAM or MRAM. I make extensive use of them in my projects. > > Everspin has a few (all SMT and 3.3v). As I recall they run ~$20/ea for 4Mb > (512K x 8 or 256K x 16). > > TTFN - Guy > >> On Dec 15, 2018, at 1:22 AM, Rod G8DGR via cctalk

RE: 8-Update

2018-12-16 Thread Paul Birkel via cctalk
>-Original Message- >-From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Rod G8DGR >via cctalk >-Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 2:36 AM >-To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts >-Subject: 8-Update > >Sheesh!! >Well what a response. >This stems from my (so far