Re: 11/70 - original or 570 model more desirable?
H960 Paul On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 9:49 PM Bill Degnan via cctech < cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Random question > would you prefer having, if you had to pick only one, the original PDP > 11/70 or the newer "blue cabinets" PDP 11/70, assuming both were complete > configurations with racks of storage etc as they would have been sold, more > or less. > > Assume space and power are not issues, consider just the machine itself. > > Bill >
Re: old gcc #pragma handling
Fyi
There is a gcc atari.readme in that directory
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> On Jan 30, 2019, at 13:00, Christian Groessler via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/30/19 7:19 PM, Carlos E Murillo-Sanchez via cctalk wrote:
>> Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote:
On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 11:53:59PM +0100, Christian Groessler via cctalk
wrote:
[...]
But I cannot find gcc 1.34. ftp.gnu.org has gcc-1.30.atari (where the
sequence doesn't exist), and gcc-1.35 (where it's "#if 0"ed).
Does anyone know where to find the source code of gcc 1.34?
>>> The canonical place would be http://ftp.gnu.org/old-gnu/gcc/, which is
>>> presumably where you found those versions. It seems that earlier versions
>>> were
>>> distributed as diffs to be progressively applied, and those may be found in
>>> http://ftp.gnu.org/old-gnu/gcc/Version1.diffs/. You should be able to
>>> reverse-apply ("patch -R") the patches to get back from 1.35.
>>>
>>> Eyeballing the patch from 1.34 to 1.35, it seems that this had already been
>>> ifdeffed out in an earlier release.
>> Perhaps this could be helpful:
>>
>> http://www.netgull.com/gcc/old-releases/gcc-1/
>
> Great! Thanks! There's a gcc-0.9 version there which has this interesting
> pragma handling enabled.
>
> Now I need to get the thing compiled. If the file dates are correct, it's
> from Mar 1987.
>
> regards,
> chris
>
11/70 - original or 570 model more desirable?
Random question would you prefer having, if you had to pick only one, the original PDP 11/70 or the newer "blue cabinets" PDP 11/70, assuming both were complete configurations with racks of storage etc as they would have been sold, more or less. Assume space and power are not issues, consider just the machine itself. Bill
Re: decgraphic brochures on eBay
I'd love a link to the images of that decgraphic brochure when you scan it! -- Anders Nelson +1 (517) 775-6129 www.erogear.com On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 2:53 PM Jason T via cctalk wrote: > On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 1:48 AM Al Kossow via cctalk > wrote: > > > > Is anyone here bidding on them that intends to scan them? > > I won't snipe them if that's the case > > The GT44 User Guide? Or is there another auction? > > That one is too many $ for me. >
Re: early PDP-11/45 info sought
OK, my scanning of PDP-11/45 materials is done, at least for now. Materials can be found on my Google Drive at: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2v4WRwISEQRWWFFdVpCZWFTZEU In sub folders pdf/dec/pdp11/1145 and .../memory Everything is both directories is new EXCEPT for PDP11_FP11-B_Floating-Point_Processor_Engineering_Drawings Which I had contributed back to bitsavers back in 2016. On to reviewing fiche... Enjoy! On 1/29/2019 11:46 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > From: Jay Jaeger > > > Here is what I have for drawings: > > Wow. You have some very desirable stuff there! Let me point at a couple > of things of particular interest: > > > B-TC-FP11-C-6 FP11-C (Print Set MP00038) December 75 > > [M8126, M8127, M8128, M8129] > > AFAIK, prints for the FP11-C are not available online: > > http://manx-docs.org/details.php/1,9306 > > so those of us with an FP11-C would be particularly grateful if you could > scan those and make them available. > > > EK-KT11C-MM-005 KT11-C, CD Memory Management Unit Maintenance Manual > > Not available online; the earlier DEC-11-HKTCA-C-D KT11-C Memory Management > Unit Maintenance Manual is available online, but doesn't cover the -CD. This > one is in the fiche set, but it's a pain to work with (especially since my > fiche reader burned out its bulb recently :-), so it's a 'nice to have', > scan-wise. > > > EK-MS11A-MM-006 MS11-A,B,C memory System Maintenance Manual > > Agaih, not available online, but in the fiche. Ditto 'nice to have'. > > Of course, anything you've got that's not online should be scanned > 'eventually' (I have several of those myself, sigh). > > Noel >
Re: old gcc #pragma handling
On 1/30/19 7:19 PM, Carlos E Murillo-Sanchez via cctalk wrote:
Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote:
On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 11:53:59PM +0100, Christian Groessler via
cctalk wrote:
[...]
But I cannot find gcc 1.34. ftp.gnu.org has gcc-1.30.atari (where the
sequence doesn't exist), and gcc-1.35 (where it's "#if 0"ed).
Does anyone know where to find the source code of gcc 1.34?
The canonical place would be http://ftp.gnu.org/old-gnu/gcc/, which is
presumably where you found those versions. It seems that earlier
versions were
distributed as diffs to be progressively applied, and those may be
found in
http://ftp.gnu.org/old-gnu/gcc/Version1.diffs/. You should be able to
reverse-apply ("patch -R") the patches to get back from 1.35.
Eyeballing the patch from 1.34 to 1.35, it seems that this had
already been
ifdeffed out in an earlier release.
Perhaps this could be helpful:
http://www.netgull.com/gcc/old-releases/gcc-1/
Great! Thanks! There's a gcc-0.9 version there which has this
interesting pragma handling enabled.
Now I need to get the thing compiled. If the file dates are correct,
it's from Mar 1987.
regards,
chris
Re: old gcc #pragma handling
On 1/30/19 3:21 PM, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote:
On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 11:53:59PM +0100, Christian Groessler via cctalk wrote:
[...]
But I cannot find gcc 1.34. ftp.gnu.org has gcc-1.30.atari (where the
sequence doesn't exist), and gcc-1.35 (where it's "#if 0"ed).
Does anyone know where to find the source code of gcc 1.34?
The canonical place would be http://ftp.gnu.org/old-gnu/gcc/, which is
presumably where you found those versions. It seems that earlier versions were
distributed as diffs to be progressively applied, and those may be found in
http://ftp.gnu.org/old-gnu/gcc/Version1.diffs/. You should be able to
reverse-apply ("patch -R") the patches to get back from 1.35.
Thanks. I didn't notice the Version1.diffs directory.
With the diffs I've patched 1.34 back to 1.23, but there the part is
still "#if 0"ed.
regards,
chris
Re: cctalk Digest, Vol 52, Issue 30
> > Why can't I buy a replica paper tape reader? Emulate a serial ASR 33? I > guess, both punch and read. Why can't I buy that? Kurt
Re: decgraphic brochures on eBay
On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 1:48 AM Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > Is anyone here bidding on them that intends to scan them? > I won't snipe them if that's the case The GT44 User Guide? Or is there another auction? That one is too many $ for me.
Re: old gcc #pragma handling
Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote:
On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 11:53:59PM +0100, Christian Groessler via cctalk wrote:
[...]
But I cannot find gcc 1.34. ftp.gnu.org has gcc-1.30.atari (where the
sequence doesn't exist), and gcc-1.35 (where it's "#if 0"ed).
Does anyone know where to find the source code of gcc 1.34?
The canonical place would be http://ftp.gnu.org/old-gnu/gcc/, which is
presumably where you found those versions. It seems that earlier versions were
distributed as diffs to be progressively applied, and those may be found in
http://ftp.gnu.org/old-gnu/gcc/Version1.diffs/. You should be able to
reverse-apply ("patch -R") the patches to get back from 1.35.
Eyeballing the patch from 1.34 to 1.35, it seems that this had already been
ifdeffed out in an earlier release.
Perhaps this could be helpful:
http://www.netgull.com/gcc/old-releases/gcc-1/
carlos.
Re: old gcc #pragma handling
On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 11:53:59PM +0100, Christian Groessler via cctalk wrote:
[...]
> But I cannot find gcc 1.34. ftp.gnu.org has gcc-1.30.atari (where the
> sequence doesn't exist), and gcc-1.35 (where it's "#if 0"ed).
> Does anyone know where to find the source code of gcc 1.34?
The canonical place would be http://ftp.gnu.org/old-gnu/gcc/, which is
presumably where you found those versions. It seems that earlier versions were
distributed as diffs to be progressively applied, and those may be found in
http://ftp.gnu.org/old-gnu/gcc/Version1.diffs/. You should be able to
reverse-apply ("patch -R") the patches to get back from 1.35.
Eyeballing the patch from 1.34 to 1.35, it seems that this had already been
ifdeffed out in an earlier release.
