Re: Anyone want to part with a DEC MXV11-B (M7195) and/or M8012 (BDV11)?

2020-10-04 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Chris Zach > Might have an older MXV11 as well, could the 18 bit one do this Ooh, good catch; yes, the MXV11-A also has an LTC. I too have an 'extra' one. The OP should probably check to see if his P/S generates the bus clock signal; most of the options we've discussed for him

Re: IBM PC-DOS 2.10 explorations

2020-10-04 Thread Will Senn via cctalk
On 10/3/20 4:07 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: On Sat, 3 Oct 2020, Will Senn via cctalk wrote: 2. Most of the Assembly examples use DOS interrupt 21 for output. Is this typical of assembly programs of the time, or did folks use other methods? For simple stuff, Int21H works and is portable

Re: IBM PC-DOS 2.10 explorations

2020-10-04 Thread Richard Cini via cctalk
You can find bootable disk images on-line that self extract to a floppy. For DOS 3.31 I use a Compaq version that went with my DeskPro/386. I would only emphasize that 3.5” support didn’t exist before DOS 3 (I forget if it was 3 or 3.1; it was when the PS/2 came out). So you have to watch the

Re: IBM PC-DOS 2.10 explorations

2020-10-04 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
https://vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=60 If you can find a way to format a MS DOS compatible diskette in the format you need, here is how to get DOS 1 or DOS 3.3 onto that disk and make it bootable. Bill

Re: IBM PC-DOS 2.10 explorations

2020-10-04 Thread Will Senn via cctalk
I didn't think of looking at source. I'll dig around thanks for the tip. Will On 10/3/20 12:14 PM, Richard Cini via cctalk wrote: Regarding #4, if you look at the releases source code for DOS 2.0 you will see compilation switches for PCD and MSD. I would need to look again but some were

Re: IBM PC-DOS 2.10 explorations

2020-10-04 Thread Will Senn via cctalk
On 10/3/20 11:44 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 10/3/20 8:38 AM, Will Senn via cctalk wrote: Some questions I have related to the exploration: 1. I'm curious if there are other folks out there doing similar stuff? 2. Most of the Assembly examples use DOS interrupt 21 for output. Is this

Re: IBM PC-DOS 2.10 explorations

2020-10-04 Thread Will Senn via cctalk
Richard, I'll look for the Compaq 3.31 3.5" image. Thanks! Will On 10/4/20 10:02 AM, Richard Cini wrote: You can find bootable disk images on-line that self extract to a floppy. For DOS 3.31 I use a Compaq version that went with my DeskPro/386. I would only emphasize that 3.5” support

Re: 9 track tapes and block sizes

2020-10-04 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 10/4/20 8:12 PM, jim stephens via cctalk wrote: > > > On 10/4/2020 4:00 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: >> On 10/4/20 1:50 PM, J. David Bryan via cctalk wrote: >>> >> I don't believe that you're missing anything.   When I process these >> files, I mask off the lower 24 bits as the block

Re: 9 track tapes and block sizes

2020-10-04 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 10/4/20 8:58 PM, jim stephens via cctalk wrote: > I had not seen your earlier no tape gap mentions. The old CDC 6000 SCOPE 1LT driver. Since SCOPE user programs use circular buffering, The PP overlay 1LT simply emptied the CM buffer and wrote it, 12-bit word by 12-bit word to the drive

Re: DRIVPARM and DRIVER.SYS (Was: IBM PC-DOS 2.10 explorations

2020-10-04 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 10/4/20 12:16 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: >>> On SOME systems, you could substitute >>> DRIVPARM = /D:1 /F:2 for similar effect. > > On Sun, 4 Oct 2020, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: >> IIRC, in xDOS 3.2 and 3.3 DRIVPARM produced an error if specified as >> usual, but when DRIVPARM was

Manuals, catalogs, brochures posted on Archive.org

2020-10-04 Thread J. Peterson via cctalk
Last year I found a box of material, much of it related to S-100 computers and the Sol I owned in the 1970s. I've scanned it in and posted it to the Internet Archive: https://archive.org/details/@j_peterson Folks researching obscure old devices (Biotech Electronics CGS-808, anyone?) may

Re: Anyone want to part with a DEC MXV11-B (M7195) and/or M8012 (BDV11)?

2020-10-04 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2020-Oct-04, at 1:14 PM, Chris Hanson via cctalk wrote: > Thanks to everyone who replied, on- and off-list! There’s an MXV11-B (M7195) > on its way to me. :) > > Since people were asking about my setup, here’s what I have: > > - MDB BA11-clone enclosure, PSU, and 8-slot 22-bit backplane >

Re: Anyone want to part with a DEC MXV11-B (M7195) and/or M8012 (BDV11)?

2020-10-04 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Oct 4, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Brent Hilpert wrote: > >> For the latter two, I need to figure out whether my backplane supports ABCD >> use in the first couple of slots, or if it’s purely an ABAB model. (The >> KDF11-A, RLV12, and MLSI-SCM11 came in the backplane, but I’m hesitant to >>

Re: 9 track tapes and block sizes

2020-10-04 Thread J. David Bryan via cctalk
On Friday, October 2, 2020 at 13:51, Al Kossow via cctech wrote: > Those would already be broken with Bob's use of large negative numbers > for physical end of tape and 'bad block is here' (you don't get to know > how big that bad block was, so that is hell with tapes with > variable-length

Modcomp computers and documentation

2020-10-04 Thread devin davison via cctalk
Greetings everyone, it's Been a while since i posted here. I had picked up some modcomp minicomputers over the past couple years. A modcomp classic, with a nice front panel with binary swiches, similar to a pdp 11. There is a modcomp 32 as well, the machine boots from internal floppy drives. I

Re: Sun SPARCstation LX boot from CDROM?

2020-10-04 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
Hi Chen, I just tried the tape drive and sadly it too has the capacitor leakage problem like the CDROM drive. So sorry but I cannot help reading your tapes. Regards Tom Hunter On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 2:05 PM Chenshyh Tsay via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Dear Tom, > > Does your Sun

Re: 9 track tapes and block sizes

2020-10-04 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
I'm surprised that they have not turned up since they are useful for wells when trying to enhance output. seismic data recovery from tape has been going on for a long time

Re: 9 track tapes and block sizes

2020-10-04 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 10/4/2020 8:47 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 10/4/20 8:12 PM, jim stephens via cctalk wrote: On 10/4/2020 4:00 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 10/4/20 1:50 PM, J. David Bryan via cctalk wrote: I don't believe that you're missing anything.   When I process these files, I

Re: Sun SPARCstation LX boot from CDROM?

2020-10-04 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk
I may be able to help. I have had mixed success reading QIC tapes. I have encountered two problems reading them. 1. Band failure. There is a band inside the cartridge that keeps the tape taut when drive advances and rewinds the tape. These bands like to fail. I have found replacements that

Re: 9 track tapes and block sizes

2020-10-04 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 10/4/2020 4:00 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 10/4/20 1:50 PM, J. David Bryan via cctalk wrote: I don't believe that you're missing anything. When I process these files, I mask off the lower 24 bits as the block length. A 16MB tape block is impossibly large in any case.

Re: Identifying mystery TI ICs (Motorola MDP-1000 investigation continues...)

2020-10-04 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2020-Oct-04, at 1:22 AM, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote: > More mysteries while poking at the MDP-1000. Spent some time this evening > working out the rest of the signals on the power harness (I suspect inputs > for an LTC circuit and a "power good" signal, as well as something > connected to a

IBM 3279 analogue board / schematics?

2020-10-04 Thread Mattis Lind via cctalk
I am helping a friend with his IBM 3279 terminal. I got the PSU working after reverse engineering it. Concluded that the SMPS control chip was a standard TDA 2640 in IBM disguise. But of course the thing didn't work with the PSU fixed. A fuse which was in series with the vertical deflection coil

Re: Identifying mystery TI ICs (Motorola MDP-1000 investigation continues...)

2020-10-04 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
On Sun, Oct 4, 2020 at 10:26 AM Brent Hilpert via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 2020-Oct-04, at 1:22 AM, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote: > > > More mysteries while poking at the MDP-1000. Spent some time this > evening > > working out the rest of the signals on the power harness (I

Re: DRIVPARM and DRIVER.SYS (Was: IBM PC-DOS 2.10 explorations

2020-10-04 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 10/4/20 10:54 AM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > On SOME systems, you could substitute > DRIVPARM = /D:1 /F:2 for similar effect. > Same switches as DRIVER.SYS. > EXCEPT, DRIVPARM would alter the parameters for existing drive letter, > NOT create a new drive letter.  See also, LASTDRIVE >

RE: DOS Versions (Was: IBM PC-DOS 2.10 explorations

2020-10-04 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
> MS-DOS 5.00 first version sold RETAIL On Sun, 4 Oct 2020, Ali wrote: Fred,I have to respectfully disagree here. 3.20 was sold in retail. It was packaged in the dark blue packaging which was the norm for MS at that time (after the green packaging of earlier products).?? I have a copy

Re: 9 track tapes and block sizes

2020-10-04 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 10/4/20 1:50 PM, J. David Bryan via cctalk wrote: > On Friday, October 2, 2020 at 13:51, Al Kossow via cctech wrote: > >> Those would already be broken with Bob's use of large negative numbers >> for physical end of tape and 'bad block is here' (you don't get to know >> how big that bad block

Re: Anyone want to part with a DEC MXV11-B (M7195) and/or M8012 (BDV11)?

2020-10-04 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2020-Oct-04, at 1:55 PM, Chris Hanson wrote: > On Oct 4, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Brent Hilpert wrote: >> >>> For the latter two, I need to figure out whether my backplane supports ABCD >>> use in the first couple of slots, or if it’s purely an ABAB model. (The >>> KDF11-A, RLV12, and MLSI-SCM11

Re: IBM PC-DOS 2.10 explorations

2020-10-04 Thread Will Senn via cctalk
Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 4, 2020, at 1:07 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk > wrote: > >> On Sun, 4 Oct 2020, Will Senn wrote: >> I am using a Thinkpad T430 w/DOS 6.22. If I can figure out how to get 3.31 >> on there, I'll give it a shot. I bought a Floppy-USB connector for my old >> 1.44

Re: Anyone want to part with a DEC MXV11-B (M7195) and/or M8012 (BDV11)?

2020-10-04 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
Thanks to everyone who replied, on- and off-list! There’s an MXV11-B (M7195) on its way to me. :) Since people were asking about my setup, here’s what I have: - MDB BA11-clone enclosure, PSU, and 8-slot 22-bit backplane - DEC KDF11-A (M8186) rev C processor with FPP added - DEC DLV11-J (M8043)

DOS Versions (Was: IBM PC-DOS 2.10 explorations

2020-10-04 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Sun, 4 Oct 2020, Richard Cini wrote: I would only emphasize that 3.5? support didn?t exist before DOS 3 (I forget if it was 3 or 3.1; it was when the PS/2 came out). So you have to watch the image sizes. PS/2 came out with PC-DOS 3.30 But also an IBM push for OS/2 DOS versions

RE: DOS Versions (Was: IBM PC-DOS 2.10 explorations

2020-10-04 Thread Ali via cctalk
>MS-DOS 5.00first version sold RETAILFred,I have to respectfully disagree >here. 3.20 was sold in retail. It was packaged in the dark blue packaging >which was the norm for MS at that time (after the green packaging of earlier >products).  I have a copy sitting up on my shelf (in fact I

Re: IBM PC-DOS 2.10 explorations

2020-10-04 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Sun, 4 Oct 2020, Will Senn wrote: I am using a Thinkpad T430 w/DOS 6.22. If I can figure out how to get 3.31 on there, I'll give it a shot. I bought a Floppy-USB connector for my old 1.44 floppy drive and it works fine with DOS 6.22, but I'm not sure where to locate 3.31 media that I could

Re: DRIVPARM and DRIVER.SYS (Was: IBM PC-DOS 2.10 explorations

2020-10-04 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On SOME systems, you could substitute DRIVPARM = /D:1 /F:2 for similar effect. On Sun, 4 Oct 2020, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: IIRC, in xDOS 3.2 and 3.3 DRIVPARM produced an error if specified as usual, but when DRIVPARM was suffixed by a string of three contorl-A (hex 01h) characters, it

DRIVPARM and DRIVER.SYS (Was: IBM PC-DOS 2.10 explorations

2020-10-04 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
When 5150, 5160, and 5170 first came out, 3.5" drives did not yet exist. OEMs that were early adopters of them used MS-DOS 2.11. The disk format was not always the same as what IBM used starting with DOS 3.20. For example, GAVILAN MS-DOS 2.11 supported 720K 3.5", but with a different format