RE: Just curious how many Hewlett-Packard Integral computers were sold. We have one here at the SMECC Museum that we are building a display around it for.

2021-01-31 Thread Smith, Wayne via cctalk
On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 9:01 AM ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: > Just curious how many Hewlett-Packard Integral? computers were sold.?? > > We have one here at the SMECC Museum that we are building a display around it > for.?? > > Of course we are looking for any advertising material, posters

PDP-11/70 debugging advice

2021-01-31 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
Hi all -- Making some progress with the "fire sale" PDP-11/70. Over the past month I've rebuilt the power supplies and burned them in on the bench, and I've gotten things cleaned up and reassembled. I'm still waiting on some new chassis fans but my curiosity overwhelmed my caution and I decided

Re: PDP-11/70 debugging advice

2021-01-31 Thread Fritz Mueller via cctalk
Hi Josh, ZAP is effectively reset for the micro-architecture, forcing the ucode address to known/initial value. It has multiple sources throughout the processor, including tendrils into some of trap handling hardware. (Caveat: my experience is based off extensive work with the '11/45, but the

Re: DEC backplane power connectors

2021-01-31 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Tom Uban > The part numbers are: . A106239-ND, TE Connectivity AMP Connectors 1-171196-0, CONN PLUG 6POS MATE-N-LOK NATRL > A1427-ND, TE Connectivity AMP Connectors 1-480323-0, CONN PLUG 15 POS MATE-N-LOK > See attached picture That didn't come through for people on

Re: Serial numbers intelligence

2021-01-31 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
> I'm curious to what degree people have used serial number > intelligence gathering and countermeasures in the industry. Like > were/are there market research firms that would go to Fry's and > record numbers off of boxes to try to extrapolate sales for things > like printer consumables, and

Re: Serial numbers intelligence

2021-01-31 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Mon, 1 Feb 2021, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote: Nice article, but certain paragraph made me uneasy: "By 1941-42, the allies knew that US and even British tanks had been technically superior to German Panzer tanks in combat, but they were worried about the capabilities of the new marks IV

Re: Usenet and Google Groups

2021-01-31 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 31-01-2021 20:35, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > As my age catches up on me (more lately) I really miss many of > the people I knew in the early USENIX years.  Sadly, they seem > to be fading from my memories faster every day now. Hear hear! Julf (formerly

Re: Serial numbers intelligence

2021-01-31 Thread Tomasz Rola via cctalk
On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 03:59:27PM -0800, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: [...] > I know nothing of any actual details about tanks. > But, "Oddball" (Donald Sutherland) in "Kelly's Heroes" said that the > only way that they could take on a Tiger, "Yeah. Look, a Tiger has > only one weak point. That's

Re: PDP-11/70 debugging advice

2021-01-31 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 7:55 PM Josh Dersch wrote: > On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 7:04 PM Fritz Mueller via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > >> > Yeah. I want to get the fans installed and then go triple-check all >> the power signals and get the voltages dialed in nicely. But then things

Usenet and Google Groups

2021-01-31 Thread John Foust via cctalk
At 06:01 PM 1/30/2021, you wrote: >>>Which Henry was that? Henry Spencer perhaps? >>Yes, Henry Spencer (formerly of zoo.toronto.edu). >>N. > >Another blast from the past. I haven't seen anything of or spoken with him in >nearly 30 years. A legend, indeed, and one that only makes me upset

Re: Usenet and Google Groups

2021-01-31 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk
On 2021-01-31 3:21 p.m., John Foust via cctalk wrote: At 06:01 PM 1/30/2021, you wrote: Which Henry was that? Henry Spencer perhaps? Yes, Henry Spencer (formerly of zoo.toronto.edu). N. Another blast from the past. I haven't seen anything of or spoken with him in nearly 30 years. A

Re: PDP-11/70 debugging advice

2021-01-31 Thread Guy Sotomayor via cctalk
Did you check to make sure that power is wired correctly to the PEP-70/Hypercache?  They are typically installed in "empty" slots and don't have power (or anything else) routed to them.  They require some additional jumpers to be installed on the backplane so that they get power. On 1/31/21

Microsoft fortran and c manuals

2021-01-31 Thread Randy Dawson via cctalk
Hi Thomas, Did you ever the pdf copies of these? I also would like to get a set. Thanks, Randy

Re: Microsoft fortran and c manuals

2021-01-31 Thread Tomas By via cctalk
Hi, No, there is just the HTML pages from the MS CD: https://www.pcjs.org/documents/books/mspl13/c/ and this: http://www.x-hacker.org/ng/msc60/index.html /Tomas On Mon, 01 Feb 2021 02:32:54 +0100, Randy Dawson via cctalk wrote: > > Hi Thomas, > > Did you ever the pdf copies of these? > >

Re: PDP-11/70 debugging advice

2021-01-31 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 5:05 PM Fritz Mueller via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Hi Josh, > > ZAP is effectively reset for the micro-architecture, forcing the ucode > address to known/initial value. It has multiple sources throughout the > processor, including tendrils into some of

Re: PDP-11/70 debugging advice

2021-01-31 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 7:04 PM Fritz Mueller via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > Yeah. I want to get the fans installed and then go triple-check all the > power signals and get the voltages dialed in nicely. But then things come > out on extenders :). > > Yup -- I'm surprised how

Re: Usenet and Google Groups

2021-01-31 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 1/31/21 2:21 PM, John Foust via cctalk wrote: At 06:01 PM 1/30/2021, you wrote: Which Henry was that? Henry Spencer perhaps? Yes, Henry Spencer (formerly of zoo.toronto.edu). N. Another blast from the past. I haven't seen anything of or spoken with him in nearly 30 years. A legend,

Re: PDP-11/70 debugging advice

2021-01-31 Thread Fritz Mueller via cctalk
> Yeah. I want to get the fans installed and then go triple-check all the > power signals and get the voltages dialed in nicely. But then things come > out on extenders :). Yup -- I'm surprised how picky my '45 is about +5 undervolt; it really seems happiest with trimmed up to about 5.1 at

Re: Just curious how many Hewlett-Packard Integral computers were sold. We have one here at the SMECC Museum that we are building a display around it for.

2021-01-31 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
Wayne.. yes please send the 2  serial numbers and others are invited to participate also. Probably good idea to send offlist  to kerp from clogging lister.  Thanks Ed# On Sunday, January 31, 2021 Smith, Wayne via cctalk wrote: On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 9:01 AM ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: >

Re: DEC backplane power connectors

2021-01-31 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> I have posted it here: Ooops, moved it; now here: http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/tech/pdp11/jpg/dec_connectors.jpg Noel

Re: PDP-11/70 debugging advice

2021-01-31 Thread Fritz Mueller via cctalk
> On Jan 31, 2021, at 8:19 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: > Well, what's interesting here is that on my system, switch S4 (MAINT STPR) > steps the processor with switches S1 and S2 set to *any* configuration. Hmm, would expect to see S2:1 S1:0 step by microinstruction, and S2:1 S1:1 step by clock

Serial numbers intelligence

2021-01-31 Thread Gavin Scott via cctalk
Wayne after Ed: > As to the number sold, you should be able to get a sense of it by collecting > serial numbers from those who have them - once you get enough of them (maybe > 20 or so) you should get a sense of about where the numbering started and > where it ended. I'm curious to what degree

Re: Serial numbers intelligence

2021-01-31 Thread Dennis Boone via cctalk
> I'm curious to what degree people have used serial number > intelligence gathering and countermeasures in the industry. Like > were/are there market research firms that would go to Fry's and > record numbers off of boxes to try to extrapolate sales for things > like printer consumables, and

Re: PDP-11/70 debugging advice

2021-01-31 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 2:39 PM Guy Sotomayor via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Did you check to make sure that power is wired correctly to the > PEP-70/Hypercache? They are typically installed in "empty" slots and > don't have power (or anything else) routed to them. They require

Re: Serial numbers intelligence

2021-01-31 Thread Tomasz Rola via cctalk
On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 05:47:49PM -0500, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote: > > I'm curious to what degree people have used serial number > > intelligence gathering and countermeasures in the industry. Like > > were/are there market research firms that would go to Fry's and > > record numbers off

Epson QX-10 hard drive

2021-01-31 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
Greetings I recently purchased a QCS external hard disk on ebay. This was one of the companies that was selling DEC Rainbow hard drives. I had hoped it was an old Rainbow drive with interesting to me bits... Turns out it is an Epson QX-10 hard drive, full of interesting to bits for the QX-10 CP/M

Re: Just curious how many Hewlett-Packard Integral computers were sold. We have one here at the SMECC Museum that we are building a display around it for.

2021-01-31 Thread Smith, Wayne via cctalk
On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 9:01 AM ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: > Just curious how many Hewlett-Packard Integral? computers were sold.?? > > We have one here at the SMECC Museum that we are building a display around it > for.?? > > Of course we are looking for any advertising material, posters

Re: Small DEC QBUS backplane

2021-01-31 Thread Nigel Johnson via cctalk
Thanks Noel, Yes, I tried to repair an 11/34 once after somebody plugged a peripheral board into a memory slot - I was doing well after 3 or 4 chip chnages, it started to come to life, until I found the 20V went right into an d=address line of an in-house numbered ROM! Having been warned by

Re: Small DEC QBUS backplane

2021-01-31 Thread Nigel Johnson via cctalk
Not so lucky n Canada!  They wanted $28 shipping! So I got a box of 10 for $28 - but delivery end of Feb. Back burner until then! Thanks Nigel Nigel Johnson, MSc., MIEEE, MCSE VE3ID/G4AJQ/VA3MCU Amateur Radio, the origin of the open-source concept! Skype: TILBURY2591 nw.john...@ieee.org

Re: Just curious how many Hewlett-Packard Integral computers were sold. We have one here at the SMECC Museum that we are building a display around it for.

2021-01-31 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 6:25 AM Frank McConnell via cctalk wrote: > > On Jan 30, 2021, at 10:09, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: > > Hi Doug! No, we do not have a copy of this HP JOURNAL. We do not have > > manuals either. We,are lucky to have the unit wonder if you can still > > order ink for

Re: Just curious how many Hewlett-Packard Integral computers were sold. We have one here at the SMECC Museum that we are building a display around it for.

2021-01-31 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
Thanks  folks for the part number for ink jet cartridges. .. we have differnt interface standards version of Thinkjet  plusevthe one in the integral so we can play still! Big thanks for the corisive  ink warning. .. I had no idea! Hopefully we can turn up some poster art and other things  to

Re: Small DEC QBUS backplane

2021-01-31 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Interesting. I have a Contemporary Cybernetics 8505 drive that I think used the Exabyte tape system, will have to dig it out and see what it looks like. Used them at the IEEE Computer Society for years but finally went with IBM LTO tape libraries at Science. The LTOs were more reliable. C On

Re: Small DEC QBUS backplane

2021-01-31 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
I only have the S (well, there is a second one in the basement I need to drag up). I did have one of those little 4 slot dual width boxes that had a power supply but I sold it. Wouldn't help with quad width modules anyway. There's another BA23 down there, I'll probably try to haul it up next