[cctalk] Re: OLD ftp.compaq.com Mirror?
On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 at 22:48, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > On 7/10/23 10:54 AM, Ali wrote: > > Hello All, > > Hi Ali, > > > I am wondering if anyone has a private or knows of a mirror for > > ftp.compaq.com that is older than 2014? > I'm watching a video talking about Protoweb and one of the ftp sites > that they are talking about is ftp.compaq.com. > > The video in question is: > > Link - Protoweb - Reviving the '90s Internet! (Overview & Demo) > - https://youtu.be/1FSd-XhGLqk > > I'm interested in checking out Protoweb for various reasons, but I > figured that I'd let you, and fellow cctalk subscribers, know about the > ftp.compaq.com archive. > You could have just said "there's a site that set up a proxy server for browsing a moderate number of old mirrors of HTTP and FTP sites" and linked to that site instead of sending us a link to a youtube video. It's https://protoweb.org/ and this definitely seems to be aimed at an audience that wasn't alive when these browsers and websites were around. If it was aimed at the cctech crowd it could have been a very simple webpage that explains that they have an HTTP/FTP/Gopher proxy server at wayback.protoweb.com:7851 and you can then go to www.inode.com to see what's available. Instead that information is hidden under multiple layers of bizarre hand-holding. -Henry
[cctalk] Re: OLD ftp.compaq.com Mirror?
On 7/10/23 10:54 AM, Ali wrote: Hello All, Hi Ali, I am wondering if anyone has a private or knows of a mirror for ftp.compaq.com that is older than 2014? I'm watching a video talking about Protoweb and one of the ftp sites that they are talking about is ftp.compaq.com. The video in question is: Link - Protoweb - Reviving the '90s Internet! (Overview & Demo) - https://youtu.be/1FSd-XhGLqk I'm interested in checking out Protoweb for various reasons, but I figured that I'd let you, and fellow cctalk subscribers, know about the ftp.compaq.com archive. Grant. . . .
[cctalk] Re: VCF and System Source Computer Museum swap meet this weekend
System Source 338 Clubhouse Road Hunt Valley, MD 21031 On Tue, 18 Jul 2023, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: Is that somewhere in Maryland? On Tue, 18 Jul 2023, Mark G Thomas via cctalk wrote: Hi, I am curious if anyone here might be planning on attending. https://museum.syssrc.com/artifact/events/3000/ The Vintage Computer Federation and the System Source Computer Museum are hosting a vintage computer repair workshop on Saturday July 22nd and Sunday July 23rd 2023 ... Mark -- Mark G. Thomas , KC3DRE Mike Loewen mloe...@cpumagic.scol.pa.us Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/
[cctalk] Re: VCF and System Source Computer Museum swap meet this weekend
> Is that somewhere in Maryland? Yeah, Cockeysville, just outside Baltimore off I-83. Thanks, Jonathan
[cctalk] Re: VCF and System Source Computer Museum swap meet this weekend
Is that somewhere in Maryland? On Tue, 18 Jul 2023, Mark G Thomas via cctalk wrote: Hi, I am curious if anyone here might be planning on attending. https://museum.syssrc.com/artifact/events/3000/ The Vintage Computer Federation and the System Source Computer Museum are hosting a vintage computer repair workshop on Saturday July 22nd and Sunday July 23rd 2023 ... Mark -- Mark G. Thomas , KC3DRE
[cctalk] Re: VCF and System Source Computer Museum swap meet this weekend
I'm going, there's going to be a fair bit of Ohio Scientific hacking going on this weekend. We're going to try and get my CD-23 hard disk system up and going and pull data off it (14" Shugart SA-4008) Thanks, Jonathan --- Original Message --- On Tuesday, July 18th, 2023 at 19:56, Mark G Thomas via cctalk wrote: > > > Hi, > > I am curious if anyone here might be planning on attending. > > https://museum.syssrc.com/artifact/events/3000/ > > The Vintage Computer Federation and the System Source Computer Museum are > hosting a vintage computer repair workshop on Saturday July 22nd and > Sunday July 23rd 2023 > ... > > Mark > > -- > Mark G. Thomas m...@misty.com, KC3DRE
[cctalk] VCF and System Source Computer Museum swap meet this weekend
Hi, I am curious if anyone here might be planning on attending. https://museum.syssrc.com/artifact/events/3000/ The Vintage Computer Federation and the System Source Computer Museum are hosting a vintage computer repair workshop on Saturday July 22nd and Sunday July 23rd 2023 ... Mark -- Mark G. Thomas , KC3DRE
[cctalk] Re: Restoring Ultrix-32m 1.2 Floppies
On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 at 08:30, Hans-Ulrich Hölscher via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Some questions if you don't mind ;-)) > Not at all! > > - Could you please give some instructions how you managed to install V1.0? > Yes, I suppose this should be documented, as I have been unable to find any installation documentation scans for Ultrix-32m 1.x. The installation process needs the disk to be rq0 and have two floppies, rq1 and rq2. 32m-bin-1.0/01 needs to be attached as the first floppy and 32m-1.0-bin/02 needs to be attached to the second floppy. I chose to use the RD52 for installation as 1.0 doesn't understand any of the larger RD-series disks. /etc/disktab does have entries for the RA80 and RA81 but my recollection is that trying to install to those disks didn't actually work. > - What kind of error messages did you get when you wanted to install V1.2? > It looks like there is an issue with the bootloader - the self-tests go into an infinite loop. I have yet to try moving the bootloader from 1.0 to the 1.2 system, but I believe this should work. > - What microvax1 simulator did you use: the OpenSiḿh one or that from Simh > (Mark Pizzolato)? > I am using OpenSIMH but I don't believe there are any significant differences between the two branches that would affect this system. > - What is in your microvax1.ini file? > Here is an INI file for installing 1.0; you don't have to use the QVSS but I enjoy the experience. set cpu idle=ULTRIX-1.X set cpu INSTRUCTIONS=D-FLOAT set tti 7b set tto 7b set cr dis set lpt dis set rl dis set rq0 rd52 att rq0 rd52.dsk # The installer freaks out if the floppies are locked! #set rq1 lock set rq1 rx50 att rq1 32m-1.0-bin/01 #set rq2 lock set rq2 rx50 att rq2 32m-1.0-bin/02 set rq3 dis set ts dis set tq dis set qvss enable set xq type=deqna # change this to whatever works in your environment att xq tap:tap1 boot
[cctalk] Re: Restoring Ultrix-32m 1.2 Floppies
Some questions if you don't mind ;-)) - Could you please give some instructions how you managed to install V1.0? - What kind of error messages did you get when you wanted to install V1.2? - What microvax1 simulator did you use: the OpenSiḿh one or that from Simh (Mark Pizzolato)? - What is in your microvax1.ini file? This is what I get when trying to boot the 1st V1.0 floppy: Logging to file "ULT012_MV1_001.log" sim> b rq1 .2..1..0. Boot : ra(1,0)vmunix 186016+46652+44656 start 0x10bc Ultrix-32m V1.0 System #1: Fri Aug 17 11:57:07 EDT 1984 real mem = 2093056 avail mem = 1511424 using 102 buffers containing 208896 bytes of memory MicroVAX 1, microcode level = 5 Q22 bus rqd0 at bus0 csr 172150 vec 774, ipl 17 ra0 at rqd0 slave 0 ra1 at rqd0 slave 1 ra2 at rqd0 slave 2 panic: iinit syncing disks... done dumping to dev 901, offset 0 dump succeededRebooting... .2..1..0. Boot : ra(1,0)vmunix 186016+46652+44656 start 0x10bc ... Ulli Am Mo., 17. Juli 2023 um 20:42 Uhr schrieb Henry Bent via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org>: > On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 at 13:06, Henry Bent wrote: > > > On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 at 12:59, Ethan Dicks via cctalk < > > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > >> > >> > From: http://www.chdickman.com/pdp11/pro380.txt > >> > > >> > "The RX50 floppy starts at track 1. Track 0 is logically placed after > >> > track 79. The sectors are interleaved 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 0, 2, 4, 6, 8, > >> > 10. The track shift and interleave must be taken into account when > >> > moving disks between real PDP-11 and emulators." > >> > >> I have had good luck with a secfor convolver from the same page as this > >> comment: > >> > >> http://www.chdickman.com/pdp11/lbn2rx50.c > >> > >> It will go both ways, to and from physical block order and logical block > >> order. > >> > > > > That seems to have worked perfectly. Thank you for the utility and the > > explanation. Now off to working on the next steps! > > > > -Henry > > > > A brief follow-up on this: After lots of (virtual) disk-swapping I was able > to upgrade an existing 1.0 system but was not able to install a 1.2 system > from scratch. It seems that there is some sort of bootloader issue with a > clean install, which I suspect might be a SIMH problem and I will follow up > there after some more investigation. > > I truly feel for the folks who had to do this at the time, using 38 > floppies on a MicroVAX I. The installer does give time estimates for > certain milestones so that you could go and get a coffee or whatever. > "Configuring vmunix, this takes about 30 minutes" is certainly indicative > of the relative speed of the machine at the time. Also there is an > indication that there was a tape distribution but so far that has not > surfaced. I'm not even sure what medium that would have been - RC25? >
