Re: Sign magnitude, one's complement, two's complement

2015-08-24 Thread Paul Koning
On Aug 22, 2015, at 10:31 PM, Chuck Guzis ccl...@sydex.com wrote: On 08/22/2015 06:26 PM, Paul Koning wrote: than the usual rule). I recall the integer multiply feature (i.e. optional) available on the 6000. IXi Xj*Xk, but it didn't provide any more precision than the usual

Re: HP 5480A, or, obscure HP instruments

2015-08-24 Thread Peter Brown
--Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: cu...@charter.net To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 09:23:06 -0500 Subject: Re: HP 5480A, or, obscure HP instruments / was Re: More on manuals plus rescue On 8/22/2015 8:14 AM, Tothwolf wrote: It only helps a little though and when eBay

FYI gmane cctalk group

2015-08-24 Thread Al Kossow
just noticed this http://article.gmane.org/gmane.announce/23246/match=gmane+comp+hardware+vintage From: Mailing List Manager admin at gmane.org Subject: New group gmane.comp.hardware.vintage Newsgroups: gmane.announce Date: 2015-05-19 10:57:19 GMT (13 weeks, 6 days, 3 hours and 39 minutes ago)

RE: FYI gmane cctalk group

2015-08-24 Thread Jay West
That means they are copying the list without permission. -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of dwight Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 10:22 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: RE: FYI gmane

RE: FYI gmane cctalk group

2015-08-24 Thread dwight
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 07:38:25 -0700 From: a...@bitsavers.org To: gene...@classiccmp.org; classiccmp.org:On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: FYI gmane cctalk group just noticed this

VMS7.3 dismount of a device with pagefile before shutdown?

2015-08-24 Thread Holm Tiffe
Hi, I've managed to relaocate the pagefile.sys of my VMS7.3 to the secondary disk disk1$dia1 because of space considerations of the first disk (380MB total, free blocks 228672 now). I've seen complaints of the system that the disk wasn't properly dismounted after each reboot and would be

RE: De-yellowing

2015-08-24 Thread Ali
If you're talking about rattle-can painting, I can believe that. But there's painting using professional spray gear, as well as powder- coating. Rattle-can was never intended as anything but an any idiot can do it proposition. Hi Chuck, Actually I was talking about professional spray

Re: VMS7.3 dismount of a device with pagefile before shutdown?

2015-08-24 Thread Peter Coghlan
Holm Tiffe wrote: Hi, I've managed to relaocate the pagefile.sys of my VMS7.3 to the secondary disk disk1$dia1 because of space considerations of the first disk (380MB total, free blocks 228672 now). I've seen complaints of the system that the disk wasn't properly dismounted after each

Re: In Realtime: Saving 25,000 Manuals — August 15, 2015

2015-08-24 Thread Dave Woyciesjes
On 08/21/2015 08:08 PM, Liam Proven wrote: On 15 August 2015 at 13:03, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote: http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/4683 Apologies if this is old news... Some pictures, from sun-rescue: https://www.flickr.com/photos/textfiles/albums/72157657277241785/page1

Re: In Realtime: Saving 25,000 Manuals — August 15, 2015

2015-08-24 Thread Jason Scott
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Dave Woyciesjes woycies...@sbcglobal.net wrote: On 08/21/2015 08:08 PM, Liam Proven wrote: On 15 August 2015 at 13:03, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote: http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/4683 Apologies if this is old news... Some pictures, from

Re: In Realtime: Saving 25,000 Manuals — August 15, 2015

2015-08-24 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Jason Scott ja...@textfiles.com wrote: I'm curious, what percentage of thier stock was saved? If you go by unique manuals, 95-99%. If you go by total number of manuals, including duplicates, probably 25-30%. Heroic! -ethan

Re: Indianapolis: More classic computing equipment than I can shake a stick at.

2015-08-24 Thread Jason T
On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Maxx Wood max...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone who's passing through, or lives near Indianapolis, feel free to give me a shout to set up a time to peruse what I have. I have amassed enough machines to take on their own gravitational pull. Most are in various states

Re: De-yellowing

2015-08-24 Thread Joe Giliberti
I've successfully retrobrited old TV safety screens and a few NES console. What I used was 12% hydrogen peroxide from the beauty supply shop, along with sodium percarbonate, glycerin to keep it wet and xanthan gum to stabilize it to a paint on gel. Then all you do is paint it on, cover it with

Re: De-yellowing

2015-08-24 Thread William Donzelli
I'm not into the de-yellowing thing myself. There's no evidence that de-yellowing improves the durability of objects. A museum curator preparing an exhibit might well use a water-based acrylic that can easily be washed off. That is what the Air and Space Museum has done for a while - a very

Re: In Realtime: Saving 25,000 Manuals — August 15, 2015

2015-08-24 Thread Tothwolf
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015, Jason Scott wrote: On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Dave Woyciesjes woycies...@sbcglobal.net wrote: On 08/21/2015 08:08 PM, Liam Proven wrote: On 15 August 2015 at 13:03, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote: http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/4683 Apologies if this is

Re: HP 5480A, or, obscure HP instruments

2015-08-24 Thread Tothwolf
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015, Peter Brown wrote: Was there any resolution to the original request for HP5480A service information? I have fiches for this instrument as follows 1. 5480A - Signal Analyzer Operating manual Part 1 - 05480-90014(fiche) - 2 fiches, 60 pages per fiche 2. 5480A/B - Signal

Re: De-yellowing

2015-08-24 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 08/24/2015 11:37 AM, Ali wrote: I was working on a Sharp brand tabletop copier. I was surprised to find that the thing was painted with a very fine (almost like fine sand) texture. So there are surprises. I'm not into the de-yellowing thing myself. There's no evidence that

Re: 9-Track 1/2 Tape Drive Recommendations?

2015-08-24 Thread steve shumaker
On 8/24/2015 6:43 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: On 08/24/2015 05:31 PM, steve shumaker wrote: Actually, with a little digging on DTIC I found another reference 9actaully several - the full manual is there - and ended up on NTIS which shows it *still* available although when you click the link the

Re: De-yellowing

2015-08-24 Thread Paul Koning
On Aug 24, 2015, at 7:28 PM, Chris Elmquist chr...@pobox.com wrote: I recently restored several VT100 that were extremely yellowed as well as filthy dirty. I put the plastics in my bathtub and sprayed them heavily with Krud Kutter, intending only to remove the dirt. To my surprise, much

Re: (OT?) Copyright and IP

2015-08-24 Thread Tony Aiuto
Yes. Information by itself has no behavior. Water and electricity are especially bad analogies, because they are both tangible. When you use the water or charge, it is gone. You can't take one water molecule have share it between 100 people. You can, however, share the same bit of information to

Re: Osborne O1 Keyboard issues

2015-08-24 Thread Jules Richardson
On 08/23/2015 03:28 AM, drlegendre . wrote: Howdy gents, Working away on the recently acquired Osborne 1. Seems there's something wrong with the KB - and if I didn't know better, I'd say it's a case of shorted contacts. The KB connector is 24 pins, double row header like a short floppy or IDE

Re: 9-Track 1/2 Tape Drive Recommendations?

2015-08-24 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 08/24/2015 05:31 PM, steve shumaker wrote: Actually, with a little digging on DTIC I found another reference 9actaully several - the full manual is there - and ended up on NTIS which shows it *still* available although when you click the link the product number gives an error and suggests

RE: De-yellowing

2015-08-24 Thread Ali
I recently restored several VT100 that were extremely yellowed as well as filthy dirty. I put the plastics in my bathtub and sprayed them heavily with Krud Kutter, intending only to remove the dirt. To my surprise, much of the yellowing came off too. It didn't return them to their

Re: Osborne O1 Keyboard issues

2015-08-24 Thread drlegendre .
Hi Jules, Oh, no worries - I'd have taken it in this condition whether or not you were aware of the issues. After all, it +was+ a gift, and a very generous one at that; not just in terms of materiel, but in terms of your time spent, as well. On the bright side, I may be able to send you some

So, what's the deal with DigiBarn?

2015-08-24 Thread Ian Finder
Hey all- I've always wondered about this. Their website hasn't seen a proper update in years, and it looks like they have a lot of choice hardware donated to them that they may not be maintaining... Is it open to the public? Are people actively volunteering there to make sure this stuff is

Re: So, what's the deal with DigiBarn?

2015-08-24 Thread steve shumaker
On 8/24/2015 3:30 PM, Ian Finder wrote: Hey all- I've always wondered about this. Their website hasn't seen a proper update in years, and it looks like they have a lot of choice hardware donated to them that they may not be maintaining... Is it open to the public? Are people actively

Re: [GreenKeys] Somewhat OT: RIP Robert Bob Hall, Jr. (Jan 5th 1957 - July 28th 2015)

2015-08-24 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
I've got his stuff here at Keep America At Work. I knew he was bad, but I had NOT heard this and I'm very sorry to hear this. http://keepamericaatwork.com/category/bob-hall/ I never had the opportunity to meet him, but we exchanged emails frequently and I wish I had been able to meet him.

RE: FYI gmane cctalk group

2015-08-24 Thread dwight
I see. Why would they do that? Dwight From: jw...@classiccmp.org To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: RE: FYI gmane cctalk group Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:34:03 -0500 That means they are copying the list without permission. -Original Message- From: cctalk

Re: [GreenKeys] Somewhat OT: RIP Robert Bob Hall, Jr. (Jan 5th 1957 - July ...

2015-08-24 Thread COURYHOUSE
sad to lose a good person at a young age Ed# In a message dated 8/24/2015 9:47:50 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, vbier...@gmail.com writes: I've got his stuff here at Keep America At Work. I knew he was bad, but I had NOT heard this and I'm very sorry to hear this.

Re: [GreenKeys] Somewhat OT: RIP Robert Bob Hall, Jr. (Jan 5th 1957 - July 28th 2015)

2015-08-24 Thread drlegendre .
Hey Virgil / anyone who might know care, I'd known the man for well over a decade - first made his acquaintance when he became a customer of the boutique Hi-End audio outfit I used to work for. Spent a lot of phone-time working with him, trying to get various issues sorted out in his system.

Re: FYI gmane cctalk group

2015-08-24 Thread Eric Christopherson
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015, Al Kossow wrote: just noticed this http://article.gmane.org/gmane.announce/23246/match=gmane+comp+hardware+vintage From: Mailing List Manager admin at gmane.org Subject: New group gmane.comp.hardware.vintage Newsgroups: gmane.announce Date: 2015-05-19 10:57:19 GMT