Re: Recovery adventure - Re: Unidentified DEC gear available, NSW-AU

2016-03-02 Thread Brent Hilpert
On 2016-Mar-02, at 2:50 PM, ste...@malikoff.com wrote: > At this point I realised what I was looking at. It was a Foxboro Fox 2 > computer, essentially a rebadged PDP-11/20. Remarkable find that - a Fox-2-badged 11 - amazing to come across. Great rescue, although too bad the racks weren't

Cables

2016-03-02 Thread jwsmobile
Anyone have a source for IDC cables / supplies? I'm in need of some 40, 50 and various other cables and connectors. I need some specifically for dec systems so those would be even better. The most urgent need is cables for the PDP 8/A front panel cabling. They are all 40 pin. I've got a

Re: New Scans: IIT RUSH Time-Sharing

2016-03-02 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 03/02/2016 09:56 PM, Jason T wrote: That would be the Illinois Institute of Technology and their "Remote User Shared Hardware" time-sharing scheme on the IBM 360, circa July 1967. Check out the prices - even per-minute pricing on core!

Re: 1950s TV computers

2016-03-02 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/02/2016 11:29 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: On 03/02/2016 08:41 PM, Bob Rosenbloom wrote: Looks like a Bendix G15 at about 2:03 in the second video. Sharp eyes, Bob! I had completely ignore the intros by Truman Bradley as phonied-up props. But you're right--it is, in fact,a G-15. One

Re: Recovery adventure - Re: Unidentified DEC gear available, NSW-AU

2016-03-02 Thread Alexandre Souza
Nice photos! 2016-03-02 23:08 GMT-03:00 Pete Lancashire : > If you (or anyone here) has never worked on a teleprinter (Teletype or > other make) please please please ask someone experienced. If not one can > and many time has happened is all plastic parts of which there

Re: Recovery adventure - Re: Unidentified DEC gear available, NSW-AU

2016-03-02 Thread Pete Lancashire
If you (or anyone here) has never worked on a teleprinter (Teletype or other make) please please please ask someone experienced. If not one can and many time has happened is all plastic parts of which there are many in a 32/33 and few in a 28/35/37 can be destroyed. Having said that, if you end

Re: PDP-8/e - Front panel switch reproductions and front panel PCB?

2016-03-02 Thread Joshua Stetson
I've been wanting to get some reproduction switches for my 8/e, simply because I have a blue panel, but the orange switches. I would love to get a set of the blue paddles. I would go in on a set if they were injection molded or cast; unless they're some of the higher resolution eboxy based

Re: Documentation on DEC's Omnibus Module M865 (Console Teletype Control)

2016-03-02 Thread Vincent Slyngstad
From: Martin Meiner: Wednesday, March 02, 2016 8:18 AM I am currently looking for documentation (configuration, SCH, ...) on DEC's M865 Teletype-interface. Not the M8650 or M8655, mind you. Could someone point me to the right direction? Looking through my stuff, I fail to find an M865 or any

Re: Mobile Web Site Technology to Revive Old Browers

2016-03-02 Thread Ian S. King
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 12:39 PM, william degnan wrote: > I noticed today that web sites that are screen width responsive and device > independent are also "responsive" to really old browsers like Netscape 2.0 > running on a Windows 3.11 box. The whole push to make web

New Scans: IIT RUSH Time-Sharing

2016-03-02 Thread Jason T
That would be the Illinois Institute of Technology and their "Remote User Shared Hardware" time-sharing scheme on the IBM 360, circa July 1967. Check out the prices - even per-minute pricing on core! http://chiclassiccomp.org/docs/index.php?dir=%2Fcomputing/IIT Enjoy -j

Re: Random VGA question: 160x200 "high color" mode?

2016-03-02 Thread Josh Dersch
On 3/2/16 9:00 AM, Christian Groessler wrote: On 03/02/16 04:30, Josh Dersch wrote: Awhile back a "pre-alpha" version of the PC classic "DOOM" was unearthed (dated Feb 28, 1993), and it claims to support a "high color" VGA mode. From the README.TXT: "Use High-color DAC (160 x200,

Re: PDP-8/e - Front panel switch reproductions and front panel PCB?

2016-03-02 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 02/03/2016 23:36, Glen Slick wrote: On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: I naturally suggest mine, available at http://www.so-much-stuff.com/pdp8/cad/3d.php What, no DSSI bus ID plugs? :) In between my adventures in Panel Land I also looked

Re: Random VGA question: 160x200 "high color" mode?

2016-03-02 Thread Josh Dersch
On 3/2/16 10:45 AM, et...@757.org wrote: I've tried it on a number of machines (from the 386 era to a modern PC) and they all just end up showing garbage when this mode is enabled. I cannot for the life of me find a reference to this mode existing anywhere, but I assume it must have worked on

Re: 1950s TV computers

2016-03-02 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 03/02/2016 08:41 PM, Bob Rosenbloom wrote: Looks like a Bendix G15 at about 2:03 in the second video. Sharp eyes, Bob! I had completely ignore the intros by Truman Bradley as phonied-up props. But you're right--it is, in fact,a G-15. One thing that I noted was that the word

Re: 1950s TV computers

2016-03-02 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/02/2016 10:41 PM, Bob Rosenbloom wrote: On 3/2/2016 5:41 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: Here's another one from 1956: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33OFJEWUgQE Looks like a Bendix G15 at about 2:03 in the second video. Yup, absolutely, that is a G15. Jon

Re: 1950s TV computers

2016-03-02 Thread Bob Rosenbloom
On 3/2/2016 5:41 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: I've been having fun looking at TV programs that I watched when the family had a 17" monochrome RCA set. At any rate, here's one such about a guy who gets shocked by a computer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-pfWhehSB4 Note that, about 3:20 in, the

Re: Unix System V rel 1 on pdp-11?

2016-03-02 Thread Alan Hightower
In the October'85 "UNIX System V Known Problems List", which is basically a printing of filed bug reports against System V, it lists a 'DEC' version of these SVR releases: SVR1.0V1 (5.0)(1.0) - Initial Release SVR1.1V2 (5.0.5)(1.1) - Maintenance Release SVR1.2V3 (1.2) - Maintenance

1950s TV computers

2016-03-02 Thread Chuck Guzis
I've been having fun looking at TV programs that I watched when the family had a 17" monochrome RCA set. At any rate, here's one such about a guy who gets shocked by a computer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-pfWhehSB4 Note that, about 3:20 in, the guy doing the troubleshooting on the

RE: Pdp-10 emulation

2016-03-02 Thread Rich Alderson
From: Tedd Martin Vazquez Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2016 1:50 PM >>> Hi people¡ I've installed SIMH on my computer and I want to get >>> around with the emulator for the pdp-10; it was a beautiful machine >>> and the ancestor of the GNU project, so is quite charming. >>> I have no idea on how

Re: Recovery adventure - Re: Unidentified DEC gear available, NSW-AU

2016-03-02 Thread Christian Gauger-Cosgrove
On 2 March 2016 at 17:50, wrote: > The I/O for the machine was (I believe) an ASR-35 the bigger brother to the > ASR-33. I couldn't take it, it was > wedged in behind the other racks and I had only a limited amount of time to > load the equipment before I had to > head

Re: PDP-8/e - Front panel switch reproductions and front panel PCB?

2016-03-02 Thread Vincent Slyngstad
From: Glen Slick: Wednesday, March 02, 2016 3:36 PM On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: I naturally suggest mine, available at http://www.so-much-stuff.com/pdp8/cad/3d.php What, no DSSI bus ID plugs? :) I had to Google what those were, being basically a PDP-8 geek. (I

Re: PDP-8/e - Front panel switch reproductions and front panel PCB?

2016-03-02 Thread Glen Slick
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: > > I naturally suggest mine, available at > http://www.so-much-stuff.com/pdp8/cad/3d.php > What, no DSSI bus ID plugs? :)

Re: Pdp-10 emulation

2016-03-02 Thread Ian S. King
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Robert Jarratt wrote: > > > > Hi, I'm trying to install ITS using this tutorial: > > http://www.cosmic.com/u/mirian/its/itsbuild.html > > > > Once I got it, how do I run the software inside the OS? Or I'm just not > > getting how it

RE: Pdp-10 emulation

2016-03-02 Thread Robert Jarratt
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Tedd > Martin Vazquez > Sent: 02 March 2016 21:50 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: Re: Pdp-10 emulation > > Robert Jarratt: > > > > > >>

Re: PDP-8/e - Front panel switch reproductions and front panel PCB?

2016-03-02 Thread Vincent Slyngstad
From: Anders Nelson: Wednesday, March 02, 2016 11:16 AM I found switch levers and a mounting frame design ( http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:360853) that I would like to have casted with molded-in color, close to the originals as reasonable. I naturally suggest mine, available at

Recovery adventure - Re: Unidentified DEC gear available, NSW-AU

2016-03-02 Thread steven
Well, it started with 'Unidentified DEC gear available, NSW-AU'... A few weeks ago you saw some poor quality photos Jay posted from someone who had found a PDP-11 of some sort. It seems no-one could identify it or the ancillary equipment at the time. As it happened to be located here in Oz, and

Front Panels - PDP8 and PDP 11

2016-03-02 Thread Rod Smallwood
Hi Guys Having got 8/e (A & B) plus 8/f and 8/m into production its time I made a few comments. The aim has always been to reproduce the original panels using the process DEC used all those years ago. Needless to say we had to go through the learning curve with only

Building up the 8E system, questions - advice - partsRequest

2016-03-02 Thread Jay West
I restored my 8E cpu to running condition years ago, but never got around to the rest of the rack. Mainly to reclaim floor space, I'm getting the peripherals I always meant to go with that system into the dual rack and wanted to ask a few questions... Dual bay H967, items to go in are PDP-8E,

RE: Pdp-10 emulation

2016-03-02 Thread Rich Alderson
From: Robert Jarratt Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2016 1:02 PM > From: Tedd Martin Vazquez > Sent: 02 March 2016 19:36 >> Hi people¡ I've installed SIMH on my computer and I want to get >> around with the emulator for the pdp-10; it was a beautiful machine >> and the ancestor of the GNU project,

Re: Pdp-10 emulation

2016-03-02 Thread Tedd Martin Vazquez
Robert Jarratt: > > >> -Original Message- >> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Tedd >> Martin Vazquez >> Sent: 02 March 2016 19:36 >> To: cctalk@classiccmp.org >> Subject: Pdp-10 emulation >> >> Hi people¡ I've installed SIMH on my computer and I want to

RE: Pdp-10 emulation

2016-03-02 Thread Robert Jarratt
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Tedd > Martin Vazquez > Sent: 02 March 2016 19:36 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Pdp-10 emulation > > Hi people¡ I've installed SIMH on my computer and I want to get around with > the

Documentation on DEC's Omnibus Module M865 (Console Teletype Control)

2016-03-02 Thread Martin Meiner
Hi guys... I am currently looking for documentation (configuration, SCH, ...) on DEC's M865 Teletype-interface. Not the M8650 or M8655, mind you. Could someone point me to the right direction? Thanks a lot, Martin

Pdp-10 emulation

2016-03-02 Thread Tedd Martin Vazquez
Hi people¡ I've installed SIMH on my computer and I want to get around with the emulator for the pdp-10; it was a beautiful machine and the ancestor of the GNU project, so is quite charming. I have no idea on how to begin using it. Is the first time in my life that I get in touch with something

Mobile Web Site Technology to Revive Old Browers

2016-03-02 Thread william degnan
I noticed today that web sites that are screen width responsive and device independent are also "responsive" to really old browsers like Netscape 2.0 running on a Windows 3.11 box. The whole push to make web sites mobile friendly has had the unintended consequence of making Windows 3.11 web

Re: Algorithmic pricing gone critical - Re: PDP-10 programming [was RE: Dumb Terminal games (was Re: Looking for a small fast VAX development machine)]

2016-03-02 Thread Warner Losh
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Robert Jarratt wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of william > > degnan > > Sent: 02 March 2016 03:30 > > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts >

RE: Algorithmic pricing gone critical - Re: PDP-10 programming [was RE: Dumb Terminal games (was Re: Looking for a small fast VAX development machine)]

2016-03-02 Thread Robert Jarratt
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of william > degnan > Sent: 02 March 2016 03:30 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: Re: Algorithmic pricing gone critical - Re: PDP-10 programming

Re: PDP-8/e - Front panel switch reproductions and front panel PCB?

2016-03-02 Thread Don North
On 3/2/2016 11:16 AM, Anders Nelson wrote: I found switch levers and a mounting frame design ( http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:360853) that I would like to have casted with molded-in color, close to the originals as reasonable. Has anyone already done this that I can simply buy from? If any

PDP-8/e - Front panel switch reproductions and front panel PCB?

2016-03-02 Thread Anders Nelson
Hi all, I found switch levers and a mounting frame design ( http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:360853) that I would like to have casted with molded-in color, close to the originals as reasonable. Has anyone already done this that I can simply buy from? If any injection molds have been built I'd

RE: PDP-10 programming [was RE: Dumb Terminal games (was Re: Looking for a small fast VAX development machine)]

2016-03-02 Thread Rich Alderson
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Alan Perry Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 7:22 PM > I was one of the first outside people to get an account on LCM's Toad, but > one day I found my account was gone, so I have been doing -20 work on SIMH > since then.

Re: Unix System V rel 1 on pdp-11?

2016-03-02 Thread Toby Thain
On 2016-03-02 12:20 PM, Christian Corti wrote: On Wed, 2 Mar 2016, E. Groenenberg wrote: When looking for Unix distro's for rhe PDP-11, I did find information of how to make a System II using a Unix version 7 as it's base. I also came across some hits about the existence of System 5 Release 1

Re: Techno-savvy...

2016-03-02 Thread Ian S. King
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 6:22 PM, drlegendre . wrote: > "Or "the family member you go to when you can't print"." > > A functional niche definition, for sure. "When you can't get your email" is > equivalent. > Involuntary Helpdesk. -- Ian S. King, MSIS, MSCS, Ph.D.

Re: Random VGA question: 160x200 "high color" mode?

2016-03-02 Thread ethan
I've tried it on a number of machines (from the 386 era to a modern PC) and they all just end up showing garbage when this mode is enabled. I cannot for the life of me find a reference to this mode existing anywhere, but I assume it must have worked on *some* SVGA chipset of the era since ID

PDP8 front panel - Shipping.

2016-03-02 Thread Rod Smallwood
Hi Guys I have now seen the production batch of 8/e A and B. panels. They will ship next week after inspection and packing. 8/f and 8/m will be next up. If you have placed an order for any of the above please confirm your shipping address. When I switched to the textured

Re: Random VGA question: 160x200 "high color" mode?

2016-03-02 Thread Robert Feldman
>Message: 12 >Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 19:30:27 -0800 >From: Josh Dersch >Subject: Random VGA question: 160x200 "high color" mode? > >Awhile back a "pre-alpha" version of the PC classic "DOOM" was unearthed >(dated Feb 28, 1993), and it claims to support a "high color" VGA mode.

Re: Unix System V rel 1 on pdp-11?

2016-03-02 Thread Christian Corti
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016, E. Groenenberg wrote: When looking for Unix distro's for rhe PDP-11, I did find information of how to make a System II using a Unix version 7 as it's base. I also came across some hits about the existence of System 5 Release 1 for the PDP-11 (basically intended to be only

Re: Random VGA question: 160x200 "high color" mode?

2016-03-02 Thread Ryan K. Brooks
On 3/2/16 11:00 AM, Christian Groessler wrote: On 03/02/16 04:30, Josh Dersch wrote: Awhile back a "pre-alpha" version of the PC classic "DOOM" was unearthed (dated Feb 28, 1993), and it claims to support a "high color" VGA mode. From the README.TXT: "Use High-color DAC (160

Re: Random VGA question: 160x200 "high color" mode?

2016-03-02 Thread Christian Groessler
On 03/02/16 04:30, Josh Dersch wrote: Awhile back a "pre-alpha" version of the PC classic "DOOM" was unearthed (dated Feb 28, 1993), and it claims to support a "high color" VGA mode. From the README.TXT: "Use High-color DAC (160 x200, but great color!) (Only newer VGA cards

Unix System V rel 1 on pdp-11?

2016-03-02 Thread E. Groenenberg
Hi. When looking for Unix distro's for rhe PDP-11, I did find information of how to make a System II using a Unix version 7 as it's base. I also came across some hits about the existence of System 5 Release 1 for the PDP-11 (basically intended to be only for the 45 & 70). On www.archive.org I

Re: Random VGA question: 160x200 "high color" mode?

2016-03-02 Thread Ryan Eisworth
Have you tried on a Tseng ET4000, Video 7, or SpeedStar 24X? No idea if those will run it though I have a 24X at my disposal so I can check in a bit. I believe they all have high color or true color RAMDACs though. On another note… a while back I read an article that said John Carmack (one of