RE: Mystery HP 1000 board

2016-06-15 Thread CuriousMarc
You beat me! You got one hit. How did you search for that? I come up dry... Marc -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Pete Lancashire Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 8:50 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re:

RE: Mystery HP 1000 board

2016-06-15 Thread CuriousMarc
Yes, yes, I remember! [furiously searches email archive] Jay said: "The large board on the left. I am fairly sure that I have one. I am trying to remember what it was. I know that it made the E series into specific test instrument. I do remember that you can remove it and it's a normal E. I'll

Re: Possible to Re-flash a Yamaha SCSI CDROM to fake an Apple CDROM ?

2016-06-15 Thread Pete Lancashire
Your going to need a CDROM that can be set for 512 byte sectors. We use to use Plextor drives and if money was a factor, Pioneer. In the early days Plextor drives were quite a bit more expensive the all the others, and where usually faster. BTW 512 bytes came from the sector size of a hard drive

VCF Midwest is Live!

2016-06-15 Thread Jason T
Hello vintage computing fans - we are finally ready to officially re-announce the 11th annual Vintage Computer Festival Midwest! Here are the essentials: What: A weekend of friends, fellowship and frivolity centered around the hobby of vintage computing. Buy, browse, show or sell or any

Re: Mystery HP 1000 board

2016-06-15 Thread Pete Lancashire
Well there are 20 bits of ALU And this guy has one and some other boards http://nevadabarry.com/electron.html#HP%20Test%20Equipment NO Connection with the site/person/etc .. just passing it on On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 8:00 PM, Jay West wrote: > I have one of those

Re: DL11 M7800

2016-06-15 Thread william degnan
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Henk Gooijen wrote: > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: william degnan Sent: Wednesday, > June 15, 2016 5:35 PM To: cctech Subject: DL11 M7800 > OK. I must be missing something here > > Does anyone have a M7800 (DL11) set for 9600

Re: Possible to Re-flash a Yamaha SCSI CDROM to fake an Apple CDROM ?

2016-06-15 Thread ethan
Thanks. That doc mirrors my current understanding, but it doesn't address the ROM hack I'm contemplating. -Swift Microcontroller board to rewrite the scsi cdb block with the vendor over to Apple! -- Ethan O'Toole

RE: Mystery HP 1000 board

2016-06-15 Thread Jay West
I have one of those boards. You sent me an email about it and I replied a week ago :) -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of CuriousMarc Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 9:49 PM To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: Mystery HP 1000 board Can anyone

Mystery HP 1000 board

2016-06-15 Thread CuriousMarc
Can anyone identify this HP board (see link to pictures)? https://goo.gl/photos/BBuAV1oozWNSqeUTA It was at under the main board of a newly acquired HP 1000-E, next to the firmware board. It says HP 54427-60050 Booster Microcode. It has 5 bitslice SN 74S181 chips at the back. So I surmise maybe

RE: VCFed auction updates

2016-06-15 Thread Smith, Wayne
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 15:20:11 -0400 From: "Bill Sudbrink" To: "'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'" Subject: > I think that VCFed (was MARCH) had that one > signed at the same workshop that mine was > signed at. A couple

Re: Quadra 660AV what's with the "PowerPC" label?

2016-06-15 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
> On Jun 15, 2016, at 4:47 PM, Mouse wrote: > > The BSDs just sit there and work, for the most part. The major thing I > see them lacking is a PR department. And thank $GOD for that. It was P.R. that created (and perpetuates) Linux.

Re: Quadra 660AV what's with the "PowerPC" label?

2016-06-15 Thread Mouse
> Its obvious that the systemd thing is a very controversial one, but I > see the move as just one of the "trying to keep up with the other > players in the field, i.e. launchd in OS X or svc services in > Solaris/Solaris distro's. Just because other people make a mistake is no excuse for another

Re: Possible to Re-flash a Yamaha SCSI CDROM to fake an Apple CDROM ?

2016-06-15 Thread Swift Griggs
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, rescue wrote: > Don't have time to fully check it out, but check out: > http://chrislawson.net/writing/macdaniel/2k1130cl.shtml Thanks. That doc mirrors my current understanding, but it doesn't address the ROM hack I'm contemplating. -Swift

Re: Possible to Re-flash a Yamaha SCSI CDROM to fake an Apple CDROM ?

2016-06-15 Thread rescue
Don't have time to fully check it out, but check out: http://chrislawson.net/writing/macdaniel/2k1130cl.shtml On 2016-06-15 17:24, Swift Griggs wrote: On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, rescue wrote: Didn't hacked or 3rd party cd-rom drivers exist? I have some vague memory, but I was thinking that

Re: Possible to Re-flash a Yamaha SCSI CDROM to fake an Apple CDROM ?

2016-06-15 Thread Swift Griggs
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, rescue wrote: > Didn't hacked or 3rd party cd-rom drivers exist? I have some vague memory, but I was thinking that could just be wishful / convenient memory on my part. > That won't handle the boot problem, but the boot checks might not be as > thorough as Disk Setup ???

Re: Possible to Re-flash a Yamaha SCSI CDROM to fake an Apple CDROM ?

2016-06-15 Thread rescue
Didn't hacked or 3rd party cd-rom drivers exist. That won't handle the boot problem, but the boot checks might not be as thorough as Disk Setup ??? Plextor CD-ROM SCSI drives used to have a 512 byte block jumper as well. I don't know about the DVD drives. On 2016-06-15 16:45, Swift

Re: Cross post - Help repairing badly dented / warped sheet metal casing (Seattle)

2016-06-15 Thread Swift Griggs
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, Ian Finder wrote: > Despite being shipped in the original SMBX designed carton, UPS dealt a > great deal of damage to the system. It looks like it was hit by a truck. Dangit! I knew I shoulda been going faster when I hit that UPS truck. *ducks* !!!JOKING!!! :-) > Is

RE: Cross post - Help repairing badly dented / warped sheet metal casing (Seattle)

2016-06-15 Thread Jay West
Ian wrote = Is there anyone, preferably local, with the skill and tools to make this thing look a little better who can lend a hand? How do I get started undoing the dents and extremely bent base? = Bummer Ian nice machine. I had posted a while back about how I straightened the

Re: Cross post - Help repairing badly dented / warped sheet metal casing (Seattle)

2016-06-15 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 06/15/2016 01:32 PM, Ian Finder wrote: > I recently received something very special to me, a Symbolics XL1200 > LISP machine, with framethrower and the works. > > Despite being shipped in the original SMBX designed carton, UPS dealt > a great deal of damage to the system. It looks like it was

Re: Possible to Re-flash a Yamaha SCSI CDROM to fake an Apple CDROM ?

2016-06-15 Thread Swift Griggs
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, et...@757.org wrote: > I'm not sure if it has anything to do with it, but over on the early SGI > and Sun and NeXT stuff you had to change the block size on the CD-ROM to > get them to work. Yeah, I think you mean the 2048 vs 512 byte block size. SGI's use a 512 byte size,

Re: Quadra 660AV what's with the "PowerPC" label?

2016-06-15 Thread Swift Griggs
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, Jerry Kemp wrote: > I'm not arguing your stance. Real hardware is the best. That said, > after you have ran out of room due to too many other systems, I would > rather have the opportunity to experience A/UX, or Rhapsody or even AIX > 1.3x via virtualization or emulation,

Re: DL11 M7800

2016-06-15 Thread Henk Gooijen
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: william degnan Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 5:35 PM To: cctech Subject: DL11 M7800 OK. I must be missing something here Does anyone have a M7800 (DL11) set for 9600 b N71 or N81 jumper'd with the default address for use as a serial terminal

Re: SunOS 4

2016-06-15 Thread azd30
Thanks for the patches / images Seth... I can verify that SunOS 4.1.4 image from winworld, works - I have it installed on my SparcStation20. The only thing that failed to extract/install properly was OpenWindows. Now, there were two images on the site, and I haven't tried the second image.

Re: SunOS 4

2016-06-15 Thread Swift Griggs
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, azd30 wrote: > Thanks for the patches / images Seth... I can verify that SunOS 4.1.4 > image from winworld, works - I have it installed on my SparcStation20. > The only thing that failed to extract/install properly was OpenWindows. > Now, there were two images on the site,

Re: DL11 M7800

2016-06-15 Thread william degnan
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > From: William Degnan > > >> For 777560/60 (standard for the console), you want A7/A3 and V4/V5 > >> 'in'. > > > I intend to use a serial terminal to access the console via M912 > > CONSOLE ROM.

Re: Possible to Re-flash a Yamaha SCSI CDROM to fake an Apple CDROM ?

2016-06-15 Thread ethan
On older Apple 68k machines, having an Apple-branded CDROM means you can be assured it'll boot (though it's rumored that many generic SCSI CDROMs work for booting) and also that it'll "just work" on most of the OSs. I'm not sure if it has anything to do with it, but over on the early SGI and

Re: Quadra 660AV what's with the "PowerPC" label?

2016-06-15 Thread Jerry Kemp
On 06/15/16 10:08 AM, Liam Proven wrote: On 14 June 2016 at 18:31, Swift Griggs wrote: In Ireland, "gear" means hard drugs, so maybe it's safer! Tempted to try Shoebill... [...] but emulators aren't the same. I like emulators for "helping" with real hardware.

Re: DL11 M7800

2016-06-15 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: William Degnan >> For 777560/60 (standard for the console), you want A7/A3 and V4/V5 >> 'in'. > I intend to use a serial terminal to access the console via M912 > CONSOLE ROM. Got it; that would mean you're wanting the standard console. > I believe you're saying

Re: Keyboards and the Model M (was Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

2016-06-15 Thread Swift Griggs
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, geneb wrote: > I just wish the Unicomp keys were two-part keys like the Model M uses. I wish ALL keyboards did that... it's a superior design, IMHO. -Swift

[OT] Beta Max and other OLD still and motion cameras

2016-06-15 Thread Electronics Plus
There is a pallet of these in St. Louis, MO, going for scrap prices. Some are more recent. If anyone is interested, I can get you contact info. He will sell the pallet, but not by the piece. Units are dirty, untested, may be incomplete, etc. I am not affiliated with the seller in any way.

Re: Quadra 660AV what's with the "PowerPC" label?

2016-06-15 Thread Swift Griggs
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, Liam Proven wrote: > In Ireland, "gear" means hard drugs, so maybe it's safer! Whoa. I didn't know that. You are right. I'll have to convert to using "kit" exclusively next time I'm in the UK. I'm usually just in Heathrow or Gatwick waiting to fly out to Oslo. I still have

Re: DL11 M7800

2016-06-15 Thread william degnan
OK. > For 777560/60 (standard for the console), you want A7/A3 and V4/V5 'in'. I intend to use a serial terminal to access the console via M912 CONSOLE ROM. I believe you're saying to connect A7/A3 and V4/V5, but I still don't understand the pattern. What would A4, A5, A6 and V7, V6, V3

Re: PDP-11/23 system available

2016-06-15 Thread Mark J. Blair
> On Jun 15, 2016, at 11:11 , William Donzelli wrote: > > I suppose I should say that since I have a shipping dock here, I can > load it onto a skid and ship it - but YOU would have to set up ALL the > shipping. Basically, I would put it on a skid and give the truck >

Re: PDP-11/23 system available

2016-06-15 Thread William Donzelli
I suppose I should say that since I have a shipping dock here, I can load it onto a skid and ship it - but YOU would have to set up ALL the shipping. Basically, I would put it on a skid and give the truck driver a cup of coffee - that's it. -- Will On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 1:06 PM, William

Re: PDP-11/23 system available

2016-06-15 Thread William Donzelli
Can't explain that... -- Will On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Mark Darvill wrote: > Odd all I saw on the email that came to me was: > > Will, in IB > > Mark > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 15 Jun 2016, at 18:51, azd30 wrote: >> >> - Original Message

Re: PDP-11/23 system available

2016-06-15 Thread William Donzelli
> It's a shame that it wasn't in the back of your van back at MRCG last month. > ;) No room! Although by the time you saw me at MRCG, I had shed almost all my cargo. I really want this rack to go away, so I really can not hold this for you for a year or two, sorry. But, if it goes unclaimed

Re: PDP-11/23 system available

2016-06-15 Thread William Donzelli
> Looking at his signature, I'd guess he's in Yorktown Heights, NY or maybe > Rochester NY. Unless there's other IBM lands in NY ?!? IBM Rochester generally refers to the Minnesota Rochester, although there is an IBM presence in New York Rochester. Anyway, IBM Land NY generally means the lower

Re: PDP-11/23 system available

2016-06-15 Thread Mark J. Blair
> On Jun 15, 2016, at 10:06 , William Donzelli wrote: > > I have a PDP-11/23 with two RL02 drives, in a third party rack, that I > need to rehome. The PDP does not have any cards installed! Nothing has > been tested. It's a shame that it wasn't in the back of your van back

Re: PDP-11/23 system available

2016-06-15 Thread azd30
- Original Message - > From: "Mark Darvill" > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 10:35:54 AM > Subject: Re: PDP-11/23 system available > > Hi Will, > > Where are you located? > > Thanks,

Re: DL11 M7800

2016-06-15 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: William Degnan > OMG Yeah, but look at it this way: their being inverted can be a memory jogger - 'Oh, the DL11, that effed-up interface where the jumper sense is inverted between address and vector!' Then you only have to look up one of the two.. :-) > Yes, so I can use a

Re: PDP-11/23 system available

2016-06-15 Thread Mark Darvill
Hi Will, Where are you located? Thanks, Mark Sent from my iPhone > On 15 Jun 2016, at 18:06, William Donzelli wrote: > > I have a PDP-11/23 with two RL02 drives, in a third party rack, that I > need to rehome. The PDP does not have any cards installed! Nothing has > been

PDP-11/23 system available

2016-06-15 Thread William Donzelli
I have a PDP-11/23 with two RL02 drives, in a third party rack, that I need to rehome. The PDP does not have any cards installed! Nothing has been tested. Available! Cheap! Always open to trades. The rack is a shorty, and I could deliver it within reason. I still have those MINC-11 cards, too.

Re: DL11 M7800

2016-06-15 Thread william degnan
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > From: William Degnan > > > Does anyone have a M7800 (DL11) set for 9600 b N71 or N81 jumper'd > with > > the default address for use as a serial terminal interface? > > Yup. (And BTW the baud's not

Re: DL11 M7800

2016-06-15 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: William Degnan > Does anyone have a M7800 (DL11) set for 9600 b N71 or N81 jumper'd with > the default address for use as a serial terminal interface? Yup. (And BTW the baud's not jumpers, it's the dials.) > I understand the other jumpers on the card, but the address and

Re: Keyboards and the Model M (was Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

2016-06-15 Thread geneb
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, Christopher Satterfield wrote: Unicomp keys are still done using dyesub PBT, same as IBMs. Still takes a lot of effort to wear it down, I don't recall ever seeing a board with any wear on the legends. I just wish the Unicomp keys were two-part keys like the Model M uses.

DL11 M7800

2016-06-15 Thread william degnan
OK. I must be missing something here Does anyone have a M7800 (DL11) set for 9600 b N71 or N81 jumper'd with the default address for use as a serial terminal interface? I understand the other jumpers on the card, but the address and vector jumpers confuse me. I can't seem to find a table or a

Re: Quadra 660AV what's with the "PowerPC" label?

2016-06-15 Thread Peter Corlett
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 04:51:43PM +0200, Liam Proven wrote: [...] > * Simplicity -- the Finder integration with the OS, the desktop database, > etc. Move items around, aliases still point to them. Even to other drives, > even to other machines on the same network! Not that I'm any fan of

Re: Quadra 660AV what's with the "PowerPC" label?

2016-06-15 Thread Liam Proven
On 14 June 2016 at 18:31, Swift Griggs wrote: > On Tue, 14 Jun 2016, Liam Proven wrote: >> Might have got it like that & never noticed...? > > He claimed to be the original owner, and he was a teacher. He probably got > it as part of some educational program, maybe it was

Re: Quadra 660AV what's with the "PowerPC" label?

2016-06-15 Thread Liam Proven
On 14 June 2016 at 01:56, Sean Conner wrote: > It was thus said that the Great Liam Proven once stated: >> > System 9.x and before are >> > "something different" for me, a break from my mostly hardcore CLI >> > existence. >> >> Yes, true. An OS I still miss, for all its

RE: Adapting digital RGBI monitor to accept analog RGB

2016-06-15 Thread tony duell
> Is the 15kHz RGB signal fundamentally the same as the VGA signal, except > at a lower horizontal frequency? If not, how do they differ? Basically, yes. 3 separate analogue video signals, one for each primary colour. The drifference might be the sync signals. VGA has two, basically think of

Searching an IBM Model B typewriter for IBM 1620

2016-06-15 Thread Johannes Thelen
I got just another jewel to my collection, IBM 1620 Model I (G level). Machine has all internals intact, but table top and the typewriter are missing (probably doorway was too narrow back then, parts removed and forgotten somewhere on the journey... ) That table top can be made again, but I