RE: VCF West tickets

2016-07-31 Thread Ali
> There will be PDP-1 and 1401 demos on Sunday as well. > > I arranged for this relatively early in VCF planning. > Nice! Thanks! -Ali

Re: Why classiccmp is awesome [junk spots to visit]

2016-07-31 Thread Bob Rosenbloom
On 7/31/2016 9:33 PM, jim stephens wrote: On 7/31/2016 6:42 PM, Erik Klein wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 8:24 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: Is it too late to also set up an E-waste recycling even next to VCF? Weird Stuff Warehouse is practically right around the corner...

Re: Why classiccmp is awesome [junk spots to visit]

2016-07-31 Thread jim stephens
On 7/31/2016 6:42 PM, Erik Klein wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 8:24 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: Is it too late to also set up an E-waste recycling even next to VCF? Weird Stuff Warehouse is practically right around the corner... .-) Can someone in the know add to this

Re: Is MS-DOS, PC DOS and DR-DOS vintage enough to count?

2016-07-31 Thread jim stephens
On 7/31/2016 4:48 PM, Liam Proven wrote: On 31 July 2016 at 20:21, jim stephens wrote: I used Windows 95 for dos multitasking. Windows 95 booted the processors into real mode dos, then ran the windows system out of that base dos much like Windows 3.1 had. As such, the

Re: MicroVax II (Doug)

2016-07-31 Thread william degnan
On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 10:38 PM, Douglas Taylor wrote: > On 7/31/2016 10:35 PM, william degnan wrote: > >> I have the multinet install on a SCSI vax expansion hard drive on my 3100, >> I have a way to use this on someone's main system, to install it. Clunky >> but it

Re: MicroVax II (Doug)

2016-07-31 Thread Douglas Taylor
On 7/31/2016 10:35 PM, william degnan wrote: I have the multinet install on a SCSI vax expansion hard drive on my 3100, I have a way to use this on someone's main system, to install it. Clunky but it works. I also have the process documented. Bill That sounds good. BTW, where do I go to get

Re: MicroVax II (Doug)

2016-07-31 Thread william degnan
I have the multinet install on a SCSI vax expansion hard drive on my 3100, I have a way to use this on someone's main system, to install it. Clunky but it works. I also have the process documented. Bill

Re: MicroVax II (Doug)

2016-07-31 Thread Douglas Taylor
On 7/31/2016 3:58 PM, Steven M Jones wrote: On 07/31/2016 11:27, Douglas Taylor wrote: On 7/31/2016 2:44 AM, Graham Reid wrote: They were just networked, it wasn't a cluster. Do you remember if the networking software was part of VMS 5.5 or was it a third party? I seem to remember third

Re: MicroVax II (Doug)

2016-07-31 Thread Douglas Taylor
On 7/31/2016 5:40 PM, william degnan wrote: On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 3:58 PM, Steven M Jones wrote: On 07/31/2016 11:27, Douglas Taylor wrote: On 7/31/2016 2:44 AM, Graham Reid wrote: They were just networked, it wasn't a cluster. Do you remember if the networking

Re: VCF West tickets

2016-07-31 Thread Evan Koblentz
There will be PDP-1 and 1401 demos on Sunday as well. I ought to read our own schedule. :) http://vcfed.org/wp/festivals/vintage-computer-festival-west-xi/vcf-west-speakers/

Re: Why classiccmp is awesome [was Re: QuietJet Plus (wide Carriage RS232/Centronics) (FPUIB) (Was: Found some stuff at the scrapyard]

2016-07-31 Thread Erik Klein
On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 8:24 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: > > Is it too late to also set up an E-waste recycling even next to VCF? > > > Weird Stuff Warehouse is practically right around the corner... .-) -- - Erik Klein www.vintage-computer.com - My personal collection

Re: VCF West tickets

2016-07-31 Thread Erik Klein
On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 4:04 PM, Ali wrote: > I agree with Fred on this. My second day purchase (and a ticket for a > second > person) was based on the thinking that CHM was included. That by itself is > not such a big deal, a little bit of money lost, the bigger issue is >

Re: VCF West tickets

2016-07-31 Thread Evan Koblentz
If the festival continues on in the future you guys may seriously want to consider better coordination (e.g. CHM has exhibits open on both Saturday and Sunday). VCF West is definitely back to stay. You're right, we need to improve some things for next year. We already had a long list before

RE: Y Combinator is restoring one of Alan Kay's Xerox Alto machines

2016-07-31 Thread CuriousMarc
Next Episode: https://youtu.be/EDw8U1a6s78 http://www.righto.com/2016/07/restoring-y-combinators-xerox-alto-day_31.html Marc From: Curious Marc [mailto:curiousma...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 2:01 AM To: Curious Marc; cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Y Combinator is

Re: more vintage computer stuff

2016-07-31 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Mouse >> the modern 'active content' mania causes me to grind my teeth, too. > Oh, it doesn't make me grind my teeth. I just ignore it. Well... part of the problem is that some sites that _I_ find useful really depend of active content, and are completely unusable unless

Re: Is MS-DOS, PC DOS and DR-DOS vintage enough to count?

2016-07-31 Thread Liam Proven
On 31 July 2016 at 20:21, jim stephens wrote: > I used Windows 95 for dos multitasking. Windows 95 booted the processors > into real mode dos, then ran the windows system out of that base dos much > like Windows 3.1 had. As such, the dos boxes all shared actual access to >

Re: Mall directory computers

2016-07-31 Thread drlegendre .
It's not +just+ an A500. What's the extra hardware piggybacked on the A500 case? Looks to have a set of six RCA (F) type jacks on it. Is this for connection of a touchscreen display? On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 2:43 AM, Kevin Parker wrote: > Thanks for the clarity and the

RE: VCF West tickets

2016-07-31 Thread Ali
> THAT should be mentioned on the ticket page of the website. (along > with full details of how much, a link to the CHM ticket page, AND > howzbout, on the ticket page, have a deal to buy both CHM and VCF > admission as a package deal? I agree with Fred on this. My second day purchase (and a

Re: the value of old test and repair equipment

2016-07-31 Thread Ian S. King
I really like my old test gear and yes, it just seems right to be restoring vintage computers with vintage instruments. HP scopes, logic analyzers, DVMs; function generator; Tek scope, frequency counter; as well as just 'sundry'. But I did break down and buy a DDS frequency generator to work on

Re: Is MS-DOS, PC DOS and DR-DOS vintage enough to count?

2016-07-31 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 07/31/2016 12:59 PM, jim stephens wrote: > > The booted system on Windows 95 is real mode dos, and that allows all > of the dos boxes you spawn to share the same virtual to physical > address space. > > Windows 98 still did the same trick, but would only map a single > physical address

Re: MicroVax II (Doug)

2016-07-31 Thread william degnan
On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 3:58 PM, Steven M Jones wrote: > On 07/31/2016 11:27, Douglas Taylor wrote: > > On 7/31/2016 2:44 AM, Graham Reid wrote: > >> > >> They were just networked, it wasn't a cluster. > > > > Do you remember if the networking software was part of VMS 5.5

Re: more vintage computer stuff

2016-07-31 Thread Mouse
>> [keyboard fora] require that I subject myself to the Web. >> I recognize that few people share this attitude. > Well, I sorta understand; the modern 'active content' mania causes me > to grind my teeth, too. Oh, it doesn't make me grind my teeth. I just ignore it. I have no interest in

Re: VCF West tickets

2016-07-31 Thread Evan Koblentz
THAT should be mentioned on the ticket page of the website. You're right. It is updated now. howzbout, on the ticket page, have a deal to buy both CHM and VCF admission as a package deal? We weren't able to arrange that. It is definitely on our radar for next year. We hope the success

Re: VCF West tickets

2016-07-31 Thread jim stephens
On 7/31/2016 12:42 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: THAT should be mentioned on the ticket page of the website. (along with full details of how much, a link to the CHM ticket page, AND howzbout, on the ticket page, have a deal to buy both CHM and VCF admission as a package deal? Since he stated they

Re: MicroVax II (Doug)

2016-07-31 Thread Steven M Jones
On 07/31/2016 11:27, Douglas Taylor wrote: > On 7/31/2016 2:44 AM, Graham Reid wrote: >> >> They were just networked, it wasn't a cluster. > > Do you remember if the networking software was part of VMS 5.5 or was it > a third party? I seem to remember third party TCPIP software, > Multiware,

Re: Is MS-DOS, PC DOS and DR-DOS vintage enough to count?

2016-07-31 Thread jim stephens
On 7/31/2016 11:49 AM, Chuck Guzis wrote: On 07/31/2016 11:21 AM, jim stephens wrote: Windows 98 switched to protected mode almost immediately on boot, and all the dos boxes were synthesized in virtual 8086 mapped mode, and had no underlying booted dos environment. I'm not sure that I

Re: VCF West tickets

2016-07-31 Thread Fred Cisin
Hold on a second I thought CHM admission was included in the price of the ticket. Also, is it saying that you have to be a CHM member and buy CHM tickets to get half off (i.e. just buying on the day of admission is not enough) otherwise I agree with Bill those of us who bought our tickets

Re: Is MS-DOS, PC DOS and DR-DOS vintage enough to count?

2016-07-31 Thread Tomasz Rola
On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 07:18:19PM +0200, Liam Proven wrote: > On 31 July 2016 at 18:23, Tomasz Rola wrote: [...] > > > Other possibility is, can it work better in some other virtual > > machine? Qemu/KVM, VMWare? > > I am running on OS X here, and I prefer VBox to VMware, but I

Re: VCF West tickets

2016-07-31 Thread Evan Koblentz
Hold on a second I thought CHM admission was included in the price of the ticket. Also, is it saying that you have to be a CHM member and buy CHM tickets to get half off (i.e. just buying on the day of admission is not enough) otherwise I agree with Bill those of us who bought our tickets

Re: MicroVax II (Doug)

2016-07-31 Thread william degnan
> > > Graham; > > Do you remember if the networking software was part of VMS 5.5 or was it a third party? I seem to remember third party TCPIP software, Multiware, etc. > > Doug > MULTINET is what I think you mean. B

Re: Is MS-DOS, PC DOS and DR-DOS vintage enough to count?

2016-07-31 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 07/31/2016 11:21 AM, jim stephens wrote: > Windows 98 switched to protected mode almost immediately on boot, > and all the dos boxes were synthesized in virtual 8086 mapped mode, > and had no underlying booted dos environment. I'm not sure that I follow here. I routinely use Win98SE for my

Re: MicroVax II (Doug)

2016-07-31 Thread Douglas Taylor
On 7/31/2016 2:44 AM, Graham Reid wrote: The company I worked for in 1989 had three hand-me-down MicroVax II from the US parent. They were originally a PDP11/73 box, which had been converted. They ran VMS 5.5-2, all had DEQNA, with no problems that I remember. They were just networked, it

Re: Is MS-DOS, PC DOS and DR-DOS vintage enough to count?

2016-07-31 Thread jim stephens
On 7/31/2016 10:18 AM, Liam Proven wrote: DesqView: yes to multitasking, no to graphics. The only snag is that it is itself DOS based, so you don't get a lot of free RAM in your sessions. But it works, and it's much lighter and faster than even v3 of Windows. If you want an actual graphical

Re: DECmate, Rainbow, and Pro 350/380 parts

2016-07-31 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 05:05:17AM -0500, Paul Anderson wrote: > Only too late if it's gone. > > I have a complete spare 380 board with ( I think) 3 daughter boards on it, > or maybe that was a Rainbow. I haven't found the boards that plug in on the > side yet. > > Any part numbers?

Not a keyboard collector! but looking for a broken vT-100 keyboard

2016-07-31 Thread Jack Rubin
I have a couple of VT-52 keyboards that need repair and I'm looking for a _broken_ VT-100 keyboard to serve as a donor for switch bodies. Anybody have a junk keyboard with a few working keys lying around? Please contact me off list. Thanks, Jack j...@ckrubin.us PS I'll be at VCF next week if

Re: Is MS-DOS, PC DOS and DR-DOS vintage enough to count?

2016-07-31 Thread Liam Proven
On 31 July 2016 at 18:23, Tomasz Rola wrote: > On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 08:57:08PM +0200, Liam Proven wrote: >> I'm experimenting with some old DOS versions, notably PC DOS, in VirtualBox. >> >> I have a PC-DOS 2000 system with DesqView and DesqView/X working >> fairly well -- no

Re: Is MS-DOS, PC DOS and DR-DOS vintage enough to count?

2016-07-31 Thread Tomasz Rola
On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 06:23:57PM +0200, Tomasz Rola wrote: > On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 08:57:08PM +0200, Liam Proven wrote: > > I'm experimenting with some old DOS versions, notably PC DOS, in VirtualBox. > > > > I have a PC-DOS 2000 system with DesqView and DesqView/X working > > fairly well --

Re: Is MS-DOS, PC DOS and DR-DOS vintage enough to count?

2016-07-31 Thread Tomasz Rola
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 08:57:08PM +0200, Liam Proven wrote: > I'm experimenting with some old DOS versions, notably PC DOS, in VirtualBox. > > I have a PC-DOS 2000 system with DesqView and DesqView/X working > fairly well -- no networking yet but I'm working on it. Out of curiosity, because I

Re: DECmate, Rainbow, and Pro 350/380 parts

2016-07-31 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jul 31, 2016, at 9:59 AM, shad wrote: > > Hello Paul, > I have a Pro380, including box, PSU, motherboard, RX50 interface and RX50. > Unfortunately no other interface, so any missing part could be interesting, > specially HD / graphics / network. > Please let me

RE: VCF West tickets

2016-07-31 Thread Ali
> Given a sizable portion of VCF attendees will also buy a museum ticket, > unless you offer a 1/2 price advance ticket or combo vcf / museum > ticket, not sure who would want to buy a ticket in advance. Those who > buy a ticket now will not be able to take advantage of the 1/2 price > VCF

Re: VCF West tickets

2016-07-31 Thread william degnan
On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 5:24 PM, Evan Koblentz wrote: > Pre-order ticket sales for VCF West end tomorrow at midnight ET. More >>> available at the gate. https://t.co/kHKFAAn0TB >>> >> >> $20 one day >> $30 both days >> >> But, what is the price to buy a ticket at the door? >> >

Re: DECmate, Rainbow, and Pro 350/380 parts

2016-07-31 Thread shadoooo
Hello Paul, I have a Pro380, including box, PSU, motherboard, RX50 interface and RX50. Unfortunately no other interface, so any missing part could be interesting, specially HD / graphics / network. Please let me know if you find something. I tried to forward the sent emails from two different

Re: formatting and checking floppy disks for bad sectors

2016-07-31 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki
On Sat, 30 Jul 2016, Fred Cisin wrote: > So, what is optimum for you, might not be what is optimum for somebody with a > weirder use. Sure, there'll always be outliers, no argument about that. I described what has been solely my personal experience (which I hope nobody is going to question),

Re: Concurrent Computer Corporation

2016-07-31 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 11:10:43PM +0100, Greg Stark wrote: > Is there a part number on the nvram? The chips Sun used with the enbedded > battery were a standard part available from Mouser. Or is there a visible > battery on the board anywhere? The alotted time for the hobby is up for this

RE: Mall directory computers

2016-07-31 Thread Kevin Parker
Thanks for the clarity and the extra info - as I said I haven’t opened it or fired it up much less had a good look at it. Kevin Parker -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Ian Finder Sent: Sunday, 31 July 2016 17:28 To: General

Re: Mall directory computers

2016-07-31 Thread Ian Finder
That is certainly not a C= 64 as the title in your link suggests but rather an Amiga 500. These were quite popular for "video billboard" sort of purposes- I imagine they had it running SCALAMultimedia or a similar authoring environment. My local high school district channel ran on a similar

RE: Mall directory computers

2016-07-31 Thread Kevin Parker
Just spotted this Brad clearing up email after a 4 week break. I can't answer your question but it reminded me of something that other list users may be able to help with or it might just be of interest. Quite some time ago a friend of mine bought a travel agent in a shopping mall, did a refit

re: MicroVax II (Doug)

2016-07-31 Thread Graham Reid
The company I worked for in 1989 had three hand-me-down MicroVax II from the US parent. They were originally a PDP11/73 box, which had been converted. They ran VMS 5.5-2, all had DEQNA, with no problems that I remember. They were just networked, it wasn't a cluster. The DEQNA may have been