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Subject: Need to archive: GRiD Compass Computer Operating System
Software
From: Ian Finder
Date: Tue, October 25, 2016 7:08 pm
To: "cctalk@classiccmp.org"
Folks, there appears to be a large GRiD-sized hole where
>I bought the lovely SOL-20 system yesterday. Picture:
>https://twitter.com/nf6x/status/790631315695513600
Lovely. I'm sure the sloping wood-(veener) sided case design of the Dick
Smith System 80 was inspired by the SOL.
> On Oct 25, 2016, at 12:40 PM, allison wrote:
>
>>
>> Also, I think in a previous email you mentioned that the UNIBUS is 240ohm.
>> It’s not.
>> It’s 120ohm.
> My book says no. Qbus is for sure 120.
>
OK, re-reading the first part of section 5.2.5, it’s pretty clear
> On Oct 25, 2016, at 12:40 PM, allison wrote:
>>
>> Also, I think in a previous email you mentioned that the UNIBUS is 240ohm.
>> It’s not.
>> It’s 120ohm.
> My book says no. Qbus is for sure 120.
>
Section 5.2.5 of the PDP-11 UNIBUS spec:
A Unibus segment must always
A litte Ebay shortcut
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/*itemnumber* so for this guy ...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/112179257620
On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 2:48 PM, Graham Toal wrote:
> Friend of mine pointed this out to me, but I'm a software guy, don't have
> any use for hardware.
On 10/25/16 12:10 PM, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote:
On Oct 25, 2016, at 8:38 AM, allison wrote:
On 10/25/16 10:02 AM, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote:
On Oct 24, 2016, at 11:35 PM, ben wrote:
On 10/24/2016 2:18 PM, David Bridgham wrote:
On 10/24/2016 01:37 PM,
I sent Brad Srebink a email on this, lets see if I can get the simulator and
his Tek Logo examples.
From: cctalk on behalf of Pete Lancashire
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 10:58 AM
To: General
Thanks Pete.
The 4051 is working perfectly so far, with a few examples I have typed in.
I started a conversation with VintageTek (Dave Brown and Ed Sinclair) to see
what they have.
I looked at the 'Toaster' schematics here, it should be fairly easy for me to
build this one up:
Does anyone remember a subscription time sharing system called, I think, "game
master".
It was at least available and marketed in the chicago area... possibly
nationwide.
I just wonder if there is any info on what kind of system it ran on and any
preserved info etc.
Thanks.
-Bob
On 10/25/2016 03:36 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Paul Koning wrote:
As for the receiver, it seems that a TI 75140 (adjustable threshold line
receiver) might do the job.
The high-level input current spec on that is max 100uA, which exceeds
Update: I've swapped the displays and drivers around, and the "tunnel"
effect seems to be a property of the panel and not drive electronics.
Perhaps they are all high-hour examples?
Anyone here an electroluminescent display expert?
>
>
> On Wednesday, July 20, 2016, Ian Finder
even with shipping across the pond a great deal if your system is
missing one!
Ed#
In a message dated 10/25/2016 3:15:40 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
lini...@lonesome.com writes:
If it were on this side of the pond I'll be all over that.
mcl
Folks, there appears to be a large GRiD-sized hole where archived copies of
the Compass Computer Operating System software should be.
For those not aware, GRiD had an OS product that was quite advanced for the
time- with bitmapped graphics, multitasking, a beautiful forms-driven, UI,
etc.
> On Oct 25, 2016, at 4:36 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
>
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Paul Koning wrote:
>
>> As for the receiver, it seems that a TI 75140 (adjustable threshold line
>> receiver) might do the job.
>>
>
> The high-level input
apparently because no one knew about it
On 10/25/16 2:48 PM, Graham Toal wrote:
> I think he failed to sell it previously at 130 Euros
If it were on this side of the pond I'll be all over that.
mcl
Friend of mine pointed this out to me, but I'm a software guy, don't have
any use for hardware. Maybe you guys would be interested.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DEC-PDP-15-console-panel-von-1970-/112179257620?hash=item1a1e67a114:g:kDwAAOSwB09YDf2Q
8 days left. I think he failed to sell it
This item has been claimed.
--Jason
On October 25, 2016 2:04:49 PM PDT, Jason Howe wrote:
>Sorry, This is in Seattle, WA.
>
>--Jason
>
>On Tue, 25 Oct 2016, Jason Howe wrote:
>
>> Hey All,
>>
>> Surplus at work has this right now:
>>
>>
I wrote:
> Wrote my own disassembler in Python. No assembler yet.
>
Now there's an assembler as well.
> https://github.com/brouhaha/i89
>
There are some new scans up now for 32/75 on bitsavers.org/pdf/sel and some
software
under bits/SEL
I'll be working on MPX documentation next
On 10/14/16 7:29 PM, Tony Aiuto wrote:
> Bob: I may have a lot of software for it, if I can find the tapes and they
> are still readable. I even got
Sorry, This is in Seattle, WA.
--Jason
On Tue, 25 Oct 2016, Jason Howe wrote:
Hey All,
Surplus at work has this right now:
http://archives.smbfc.net/uploads/retrocomputing/deccab/
I'm happy to go pay for it and hold it if someone is interested and able to
pick it up quickly.
--Jason
Hey All,
Surplus at work has this right now:
http://archives.smbfc.net/uploads/retrocomputing/deccab/
I'm happy to go pay for it and hold it if someone is interested and able
to pick it up quickly.
--Jason
> On Oct 25, 2016, at 1:35 PM, ben wrote:
>
>>
>> If you want to build boards that will work in a small subset of systems
>> that’s
>> find…but don’t advertise it as Unibus compatible. I test the boards I
>> produce
>> in all of my systems (11/20, 11/34, 11/40 and
> On Oct 25, 2016, at 4:31 PM, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote:
>
>
>> On Oct 25, 2016, at 1:09 PM, Paul Koning wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 24, 2016, at 4:48 PM, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote:
>>>
>>>
...
Where do you see the 25 ns
On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Paul Koning wrote:
> As for the receiver, it seems that a TI 75140 (adjustable threshold line
> receiver) might do the job.
>
The high-level input current spec on that is max 100uA, which exceeds the
DEC specification.
One thing everyone
On 10/25/2016 8:02 AM, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote:
On Oct 24, 2016, at 11:35 PM, ben wrote:
On 10/24/2016 2:18 PM, David Bridgham wrote:
On 10/24/2016 01:37 PM, allison wrote:
The voltages are based on TTL levels. What are the unique voltages?
The QBUS spec from the
> On Oct 25, 2016, at 1:09 PM, Paul Koning wrote:
>
>
>> On Oct 24, 2016, at 4:48 PM, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote:
>>
>>
>>> ...
>>> Where do you see the 25 ns spec? I didn't see it (admittedly in a quick
>>> scan).
>>
>> 5.2.7. It’s discussing the
> On Oct 24, 2016, at 4:48 PM, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote:
>
>
>> ...
>> Where do you see the 25 ns spec? I didn't see it (admittedly in a quick
>> scan).
>
> 5.2.7. It’s discussing the AC loading as a percentage of the risetime (25ns)
> to allow for the
> reflections.
On 10/25/16 10:02 AM, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote:
On Oct 24, 2016, at 11:35 PM, ben wrote:
On 10/24/2016 2:18 PM, David Bridgham wrote:
On 10/24/2016 01:37 PM, allison wrote:
The voltages are based on TTL levels. What are the unique voltages?
The QBUS spec from the
On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Noel Chiappa
wrote:
> Is there any interest in all this? If so, I can put together a web page
> with
> the V6-verion VTServer source, along with the modified V6 serial line stuff
> (including a short description of the extended
> On Oct 25, 2016, at 8:38 AM, allison wrote:
>
> On 10/25/16 10:02 AM, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote:
>>> On Oct 24, 2016, at 11:35 PM, ben wrote:
>>>
>>> On 10/24/2016 2:18 PM, David Bridgham wrote:
On 10/24/2016 01:37 PM, allison wrote:
>
On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 2:35 AM, ben wrote:
> But who has the big systems now days?
Me.
> The days of 4K core is long gone.
I have Unibus machines that were 8 or more "system units" (DD11CK
equivalents), and a PDP-11/20 that takes up 3 BA-11 boxes. 60% of it
is 4K core
On 2016-10-25 10:16 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote:
> I'll start with getting VTServer to run under V6 (my only Unix, don't
> have anything later :-)
So, I just got VTServer runnin under V6: ...
Is there any interest in all this? If so, I can put together a web page with
the V6-verion VTServer
I bought the lovely SOL-20 system yesterday. Picture:
https://twitter.com/nf6x/status/790631315695513600
It will probably be a week or three before I work with it in detail, because
right now I'm nominally working on my absurd Retrochallenge 2016/10 project of
making a USB interface for an
> I'll start with getting VTServer to run under V6 (my only Unix, don't
> have anything later :-)
So, I just got VTServer runnin under V6: it successfully loaded a memory
diagnostic from the 'server', into the 'client', using 'vtboot' on the
latter. (Both running on emulated machines, for
> On Oct 24, 2016, at 11:35 PM, ben wrote:
>
> On 10/24/2016 2:18 PM, David Bridgham wrote:
>> On 10/24/2016 01:37 PM, allison wrote:
>>
>>> The voltages are based on TTL levels. What are the unique voltages?
>>
>> The QBUS spec from the 1979 Bus Handbook (the Unibus
On 10/24/2016 2:18 PM, David Bridgham wrote:
On 10/24/2016 01:37 PM, allison wrote:
The voltages are based on TTL levels. What are the unique voltages?
The QBUS spec from the 1979 Bus Handbook (the Unibus levels are the same):
Input low voltage (maximum): 1.3 V
Input high voltage
On 10/25/2016 02:35 AM, ben wrote:
> On 10/24/2016 2:18 PM, David Bridgham wrote:
>> On 10/24/2016 01:37 PM, allison wrote:
>>
>>> The voltages are based on TTL levels. What are the unique voltages?
>>
>> The QBUS spec from the 1979 Bus Handbook (the Unibus levels are the
>> same):
>>
>> Input
On Mon, 24 Oct 2016, Paul Koning wrote:
You need to look at the PDP-11 UNIBUS Design Description document on
Bitsavers. Firstly, in section 4-1, it specifies which chips to use
and recommends not using a whole list of other chips. The only
recommended chips are: 8640, 8641 and 8881.
Sure.
Am 24.10.2016 um 23:28 schrieb Terry Stewart:
Here is some I wrote some time ago on my experiences with vintage viruses.
Bear in mind it's a narrative (and hence somewhat long-winded and rambling)
but anyway..here it is for anyone interested...
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