Re: ISO: Documentation for a Northern Scientific NS-600

2017-01-26 Thread Josh Dersch
On 1/26/17 7:02 PM, Brent Hilpert wrote: On 2017-Jan-26, at 1:48 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: Hi all -- Went spelunking in a hoarder's basement this morning (long story) and came out with a few interesting items, including a Northern Scientific NS-600. From what I can tell it's from the late 60s an

Re: IBM 7074 and then some: "Systems we love" conference

2017-01-26 Thread Fred Cisin
In the story, Chuck (no last name, so not confirmed to be OUR Chuck), had the last word: "Look" http://downlode.org/Etext/nine_billion_names_of_god.html On Thu, 26 Jan 2017, Chuck Guzis wrote: I remember reading that one many years ago. The bit about the stars quietly winking out at the end st

Re: 11/34 with drives on ebay

2017-01-26 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:26 PM, Jay West wrote: > E. wrote... > -- > Price is steep indeed, my guess a grand for the system (if fully working) > would be a more realistic price, but that's just my opinion. > -- > > A fully working 11/34, in a complete period rack (with all side panels and

Re: IBM 7074 and then some: "Systems we love" conference

2017-01-26 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 01/26/2017 07:50 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: >> Even the phrase "shipped" need not be when the customer starts >> printing out the nine billion names of god. (1953, so it >> predates the 7074) > > OK, that was a "Mark V, Automatic Sequence Computer". > > In the story, Chuck (no last name, so not

Re: IBM 7074 and then some: "Systems we love" conference

2017-01-26 Thread Fred Cisin
Even the phrase "shipped" need not be when the customer starts printing out the nine billion names of god. (1953, so it predates the 7074) OK, that was a "Mark V, Automatic Sequence Computer". In the story, Chuck (no last name, so not confirmed to be OUR Chuck), had the last word: "Look" ht

Re: IBM 7074 and then some: "Systems we love" conference

2017-01-26 Thread Fred Cisin
On Thu, 26 Jan 2017, Eric Smith wrote: On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 8:07 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: "Transactions of Society of Actuaries" 1959, Volume 11, Number 31 On a system like that, how much time could elapse between, "We (customer) are switching to..."? decision planning negotiating contrac

Re: DECUS TECO for OS/8

2017-01-26 Thread Charles Dickman
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 10:03 PM, Rick Murphy wrote: > On 1/26/2017 9:33 PM, Charles Dickman wrote: >> >> I am trying to build the DECUS TECO with VT support for OS/8. >> >> TECO came from ibiblio and the assembler listing says it is OS/8 TECO >> VERSION 7. I am using MACREL-V1B. It all assembles

Re: IBM 7074 and then some: "Systems we love" conference

2017-01-26 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 01/26/2017 06:49 PM, Eric Smith wrote: > IBM generally didn't consider a data processing system to have > "shipped" until it passed the field acceptance criteria, e.g., > assembled on-site and passed diagnostics. Perhaps the 7070 didn't > pass acceptance testing until April 1960? Does IBM ret

Re: DECUS TECO for OS/8

2017-01-26 Thread Rick Murphy
On 1/26/2017 9:33 PM, Charles Dickman wrote: I am trying to build the DECUS TECO with VT support for OS/8. TECO came from ibiblio and the assembler listing says it is OS/8 TECO VERSION 7. I am using MACREL-V1B. It all assembles without error, but the linker fails with a NO ROOM message. I can't

Re: ISO: Documentation for a Northern Scientific NS-600

2017-01-26 Thread Brent Hilpert
On 2017-Jan-26, at 1:48 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: > Hi all -- > > Went spelunking in a hoarder's basement this morning (long story) and came > out with a few interesting items, including a Northern Scientific NS-600. > From what I can tell it's from the late 60s and is capable of storing and > analyz

Re: IBM 7074 and then some: "Systems we love" conference

2017-01-26 Thread Eric Smith
On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 8:07 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > "Transactions of Society of Actuaries" > 1959, Volume 11, Number 31 > That's certainly more convincing, but it still seems to be a bit of a mystery. The four authors of IBM's Early Computers were all engineers and engineering managers intima

DECUS TECO for OS/8

2017-01-26 Thread Charles Dickman
I am trying to build the DECUS TECO with VT support for OS/8. TECO came from ibiblio and the assembler listing says it is OS/8 TECO VERSION 7. I am using MACREL-V1B. It all assembles without error, but the linker fails with a NO ROOM message. I can't find any information on what NO ROOM means fro

Re: Looking to read past EOT on DDS/DLT/LTO

2017-01-26 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 01/26/2017 06:01 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > That's a good point. Can it really be true that a tape error that > creates a false EOT results in the loss of all remaining data? > Surely the designers weren't *that* stupid? It happens. You can't skip over it or even space to EOT and then read bac

Re: 11/34 with drives on ebay

2017-01-26 Thread jim stephens
On 1/26/2017 3:13 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > From: Jay West > A fully working 11/34, in a complete period rack (with all side panels > and filler panels), and 4 working RL02's, VT220, a Decwriter ... > $1000 isn't realistic at all. It should definitely be higher than that.

Re: Looking to read past EOT on DDS/DLT/LTO

2017-01-26 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jan 26, 2017, at 1:23 PM, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Jan 2017, Nico de Jong wrote: > >> I did some research, and the most reasonable outcome was that it was not >> possible by normal means, because some algorithm reading synchronisation >> data couldnt find out what was happ

Re: Anyone have the service guide for a Sanyo VM4209 monitor?

2017-01-26 Thread Al Kossow
it took a month but http://www.manuals-in-pdf.com did finally come through with a manual i stuck it up on https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/98434900/VM4509_SM_SANYO_EN.pdf for now On 1/24/17 5:32 PM, Santo Nucifora wrote: >> I need the schematics. I'm not sure I trust all those "manual" site

Re: ISO: Documentation for a Northern Scientific NS-600

2017-01-26 Thread William Maddox
Sounds like a dedicated pulse-height analyzer. DEC sold a lot of machines used for this purpose, but there were dedicated units that had no CPU, but had memory, often core. >From Wikipedia: "A Pulse Height Analyzer (PHA) is an instrument used in >nuclear and elementary particle physics researc

Re: 11/34 with drives on ebay

2017-01-26 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Jay West > A fully working 11/34, in a complete period rack (with all side panels > and filler panels), and 4 working RL02's, VT220, a Decwriter ... > $1000 isn't realistic at all. It should definitely be higher than that. I concur. My methodology for _accurately_ valuing

Re: Looking to read past EOT on DDS/DLT/LTO

2017-01-26 Thread sieler_allegro
Hi, Thanks for the notes/comments/suggestions. Recovery service: not that I've found. Most of the ones I know of have *us* as their HP 3000 experts (i.e., we help them :) ... when I've asked in recent years about handling damaged or overwritten DDS (or newer) tapes, I've always been told 'no'.

Re: 11/34 with drives on ebay

2017-01-26 Thread E. Groenenberg
On Thu, January 26, 2017 21:41, jim stephens wrote: > > > On 1/26/2017 12:26 PM, Jay West wrote: >> A fully working 11/34, in a complete period rack (with all side panels >> and >> filler panels), and 4 working RL02's, VT220, a Decwriter, a good set of >> disk >> packs, RSTS 7 media and manuals...

ISO: Documentation for a Northern Scientific NS-600

2017-01-26 Thread Josh Dersch
Hi all -- Went spelunking in a hoarder's basement this morning (long story) and came out with a few interesting items, including a Northern Scientific NS-600. >From what I can tell it's from the late 60s and is capable of storing and analyzing digital data (and can display it on a tiny scope displ

Re: 11/34 with drives on ebay

2017-01-26 Thread jim stephens
On 1/26/2017 12:26 PM, Jay West wrote: A fully working 11/34, in a complete period rack (with all side panels and filler panels), and 4 working RL02's, VT220, a Decwriter, a good set of disk packs, RSTS 7 media and manuals All shown working (except the LA).. $1000 isn't realistic at all. It

RE: 11/34 with drives on ebay

2017-01-26 Thread Jay West
E. wrote... -- Price is steep indeed, my guess a grand for the system (if fully working) would be a more realistic price, but that's just my opinion. -- A fully working 11/34, in a complete period rack (with all side panels and filler panels), and 4 working RL02's, VT220, a Decwriter, a g

Re: Service Manual Direct 831, Direct 825 or Basic Four S/10

2017-01-26 Thread Armin Diehl
On 25.01.2017 22:01, Armin Diehl wrote: finally got one of the Basic Four S10. Does someone have a service manual for these or the Direct Inc. models ? The one i got was a little bit damaged due to shipping within Europe. Found at least one transistor and one cap that broke off the video monito

Re: Looking to read past EOT on DDS/DLT/LTO

2017-01-26 Thread Craig Ruff
For the NCAR Mass Storage System, when we upgraded our tape drives to Sun STK T1 models, we lost the ability to skip past the EOT mark with standard firmware. We asked Sun to provide a firmware modification that let us issue four or so reads after reaching the EOT mark, and the drive would

Re: 11/34 with drives on ebay

2017-01-26 Thread E. Groenenberg
On Thu, January 26, 2017 13:32, william degnan wrote: > On Jan 26, 2017 7:10 AM, "E. Groenenberg" wrote: >> >> >> Nice 11/34 with 4 RL02's and some misc other stuff. >> Not mine, just passing it. >> >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/192087506057 >> >> Ed >> -- >> Ik email, dus ik besta. >> BTC : 1Lk6141

Re: Looking to read past EOT on DDS/DLT/LTO

2017-01-26 Thread Mouse
> I find that the tar CLI in its full glory is no less arcane than the > creaky old cpio one. Ah, but what is "the tar CLI"? The POSIX one (which version?)? The GNU one (which version?)? The V7 one? The one you learnt 15 years ago and have trouble remembering anything beyond even now? :-) > t

Re: Looking to read past EOT on DDS/DLT/LTO

2017-01-26 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 01/26/2017 10:23 AM, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote: > And this is exactly why I gave up on some proprietary (OSF/1 IIRC) > `dump' utility as it recorded an archive directory at the beginning > making the whole archive unusable if an error developed there. OTOH > `tar' keeps file information along wi

Re: Looking to read past EOT on DDS/DLT/LTO

2017-01-26 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki
On Wed, 25 Jan 2017, Nico de Jong wrote: > I did some research, and the most reasonable outcome was that it was not > possible by normal means, because some algorithm reading synchronisation > data couldnt find out what was happening, so, the backup was ruined. Odd. This would imply you c

Re: 11/34 with drives on ebay

2017-01-26 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 7:32 AM, william degnan wrote: > On Jan 26, 2017 7:10 AM, "E. Groenenberg" wrote: >> Nice 11/34 with 4 RL02's and some misc other stuff. >> >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/192087506057 I've run quad-RL02 systems before - kinda handy. Usually the 4th one is available for trans

Re: 11/34 with drives on ebay

2017-01-26 Thread william degnan
On Jan 26, 2017 7:10 AM, "E. Groenenberg" wrote: > > > Nice 11/34 with 4 RL02's and some misc other stuff. > Not mine, just passing it. > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/192087506057 > > Ed > -- > Ik email, dus ik besta. > BTC : 1Lk6141nvDKPxtCa5erfFyovsoJN2LKqNJ > Pricey but looks nice, this seller ha

11/34 with drives on ebay

2017-01-26 Thread E. Groenenberg
Nice 11/34 with 4 RL02's and some misc other stuff. Not mine, just passing it. http://www.ebay.com/itm/192087506057 Ed -- Ik email, dus ik besta. BTC : 1Lk6141nvDKPxtCa5erfFyovsoJN2LKqNJ

Re: PS2 Model 30 memory

2017-01-26 Thread Raymond Wiker
According to http://www.vcfed.org/forum/archive/index.php/t-28274.html , this machine has 128KB soldered in, and can optionally use 2 256KB SIMMs. If this is the case, I may have some SIMMs of the right type. Do you have the exact details of the correct SIMMs to use? On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 9:09 A

Re: Selling off my collection

2017-01-26 Thread SPC
Marvellous collection. On the other hand, so far from me to get or purchase anything else. The CP/M would be my choice but... Good luck with all the process. Hope all goes well, by the way. Kind Regards Sergio 2017-01-26 3:22 GMT+01:00 Sellam Ismail : > I'm starting the long process of selling o

Re: Selling off my collection

2017-01-26 Thread COURYHOUSE
How much is the - -Bell Labs MAC-8 Microprocessor Trainer Kit thanks Ed# In a message dated 1/25/2017 11:01:50 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, sellam.ism...@gmail.com writes: I'm starting the long process of selling off my entire collection. There's a lot to go through. Some more d

Re: 8085 Address Decoding

2017-01-26 Thread Adrian Graham
On 26/01/2017 01:09, "Alexis Kotlowy" wrote: >> My Executel ROM disassembly puts this block of code between 0x0F38 and >> 0x0F3E: >> >> 0F38L0F38: >> 0F38 : 7B"{"[4]mova,e >> 0F39 : 95" "[4]subl >

Re: PS2 Model 30 memory

2017-01-26 Thread Alexandre Souza
Are they different than plain 30 pin simm? I remember I had one of these, had a 30 pin simm, used it as a keyholder, when first 386 boards appeared, I sold it to use on a 386 for a hefty price! :oD AFAIR, these are common 1mb 30 pin simm http://www.terapeak.com/worth/vintage-30-pin-simm-pulled-fro

PS2 Model 30 memory

2017-01-26 Thread jim stephens
I have a friend who wants to add more memory to a PS2 model 30. They are off in the wilds of Oz and acquired this for a good price and would like to just upgrade it to run some programs they have which do not run on modern faster systems. I know this is a snake pit to deal with, and can get mo