Re: Did we miss the 20th anniversary of classiccmp?

2017-04-20 Thread Pontus Pihlgren via cctalk
Congratulations to us all, even if a little late. It makes me wonder, what is the oldest still running mailinglist? /P On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 09:09:01PM +, Shoppa, Tim via cctalk wrote: > A FAQ in my old emails show the founding of the Classiccmp mailing list as > being 20 years and 1 mont

Re: Bitsavers size

2017-04-20 Thread Mike Stein via cctalk
- Original Message - From: "Tony Duell via cctalk" To: Cc: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" ; "Shoppa, Tim" Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 11:48 PM Subject: Re: Bitsavers size > On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 8:27 PM, Rob Jarratt > wrote: >> >> >>> > The bitsavers archiv

Re: Bitsavers size

2017-04-20 Thread Alexandre Souza via cctalk
Is there interesting of having a "comunity backup" of bitsavers in Brazil? Here in Sao Paulo we have a network maintained by friends. When we meet, we all r-sync our secondary backups and when we get home, r-sync the primary backups. We have many data repositories in safe harbour, and we would be

Re: Remex Tape Reader - Pre-power up advice?

2017-04-20 Thread Jay Jaeger via cctalk
On 4/18/2017 3:17 AM, Christian Corti via cctech wrote: > On Mon, 17 Apr 2017, Rod Smallwood wrote: >> There are what appear to be 1976 date codes on some caps. >> >> If its that old then replace all and any electrolytic capacitors plus >> any paper based caps. >> >> If they aint bad now they soon

Re: Bitsavers size

2017-04-20 Thread Yvan Janssens via cctalk
At the risk of sounding like a nitpicker, I think that mainly depends on if it's a motorway, a highway or the Autobahn. /y On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 at 22:12, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: > On Apr 20, 2017 1:59 PM, "Rich Alderson via cctalk" > > wrote: > > > I would suggest using Blue-Ray media, at 2

Re: bitsavers rsync server down

2017-04-20 Thread Sam O'nella via cctalk
Tape backup lto would do it easily, at this point probably incremental backups to an external drive would be a cheap alternative too. On 4/20/2017 12:15 PM, Jay West wrote: > Ben wrote... > > Just how big is the server? > > Bitsavers that is publicly visible is around 275gb  How does

Re: Bitsavers size

2017-04-20 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 8:27 PM, Rob Jarratt wrote: > > >> > The bitsavers archive is 267 Gbytes. >> > >> > So at 4.7G per DVD, it comes out to almost 60 DVD's. >> >> That is not totally ridiculous >> >> Now, if I want bitsavers on paper tape >> >> > > > My back of the envelope calculation

Re: Did we miss the 20th anniversary of classiccmp?

2017-04-20 Thread Adrian Stoness via cctalk
wow what? On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 8:29 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > On Apr 20, 2017, at 2:09 PM, Shoppa, Tim via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > A FAQ in my old emails show the founding of the Classiccmp mailing list > as being 20 years and 1 mont

Re: Did we miss the 20th anniversary of classiccmp?

2017-04-20 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
> On Apr 20, 2017, at 2:09 PM, Shoppa, Tim via cctalk > wrote: > > A FAQ in my old emails show the founding of the Classiccmp mailing list as > being 20 years and 1 month ago. March 13 1997 was when Bill Whitson first set > up the classiccmp list at the University of Washington. > > Tim N3QE

Re: Bitsavers size

2017-04-20 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 04/20/2017 02:35 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > It would only be a bit more than a million 8" SSSD floppies. Best to be period-correct. First 72 columns of an 80-colum punched card. Wonder if you could find a card punch that could do the deed before it broke down. --Chuck

RE: Bitsavers size

2017-04-20 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
The bitsavers archive is 267 Gbytes. So at 4.7G per DVD, it comes out to almost 60 DVD's. I would suggest using Blue-Ray media, at 25GB or 50GB per disk. We're then down to 6 or 11 platters. It would only be a bit more than a million 8" SSSD floppies. Cheapest might be to send it out on a 1/

Re: Bitsavers size

2017-04-20 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 04/20/2017 02:12 PM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: > What's the thoughput of a station wagon full of Blue-Ray discs > hurtling down the highway? Depends on the destination. For Tristan da Cunha, I'd say it was zero. --Chuck

RE: Bitsavers size

2017-04-20 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Apr 20, 2017 1:59 PM, "Rich Alderson via cctalk" wrote: I would suggest using Blue-Ray media, at 25GB or 50GB per disk. We're then down to 6 or 11 platters. What's the thoughput of a station wagon full of Blue-Ray discs hurtling down the highway?

Did we miss the 20th anniversary of classiccmp?

2017-04-20 Thread Shoppa, Tim via cctalk
A FAQ in my old emails show the founding of the Classiccmp mailing list as being 20 years and 1 month ago. March 13 1997 was when Bill Whitson first set up the classiccmp list at the University of Washington. Tim N3QE Sent from my VAX-11/780

RE: Bitsavers size

2017-04-20 Thread Rich Alderson via cctalk
From: Shoppa, Tim Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 10:49 AM > Ben asks: >> Just how big is the server? >> As a wish list, I've always wanted that as a offline set of DVD's for the >> common stuff. > The bitsavers archive is 267 Gbytes. > So at 4.7G per DVD, it comes out to almost 60 DVD's. > I

RE: bitsavers rsync server down

2017-04-20 Thread Jay West via cctalk
Gene wrote - One of these days you should post a list. :) - Ha! I Have, several times. I'm still wrapping up the datacenter migration. At this point, its down to loose ends and freebie/myhobbystuff :) The classiccmp server will be reloaded, a few much needed disks added... and there's

RE: Bitsavers size

2017-04-20 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> > The bitsavers archive is 267 Gbytes. > > > > So at 4.7G per DVD, it comes out to almost 60 DVD's. > > That is not totally ridiculous > > Now, if I want bitsavers on paper tape > > > My back of the envelope calculation comes to approximately 4 million miles of paper tape. Regards

RE: bitsavers rsync server down

2017-04-20 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Thu, 20 Apr 2017, Jay West via cctalk wrote: But the classiccmp server... has significantly more than that, due to all the classiccmp related websites and archives/repositories that are hosted there. One of these days you should post a list. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://ww

Re: Bitsavers size

2017-04-20 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 04/20/2017 10:49 AM, Shoppa, Tim via cctalk wrote: > I remember a PDQ Bach radio quiz show where the prize was The Wagner > Ring Cycle on convenient 45 RPM records. Not to throw a wet blanket on Prof. Schickele's gag, but there *were* (and still are--Standard Vinyl will cut them for you) 12"

Re: bitsavers rsync server down

2017-04-20 Thread ben via cctalk
On 4/20/2017 12:15 PM, Jay West wrote: Ben wrote... Just how big is the server? Bitsavers that is publicly visible is around 275gb but there's some other bitsavers working areas. But the classiccmp server... has significantly more than that, due to all the classiccmp related websites a

Re: Bitsavers size

2017-04-20 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Apr 20, 2017, at 1:49 PM, Shoppa, Tim via cctalk > wrote: > > Ben asks: >> Just how big is the server? >> As a wish list, I've always wanted that as a offline set of DVD's for the >> common stuff. > > The bitsavers archive is 267 Gbytes. > > So at 4.7G per DVD, it comes out to almost 60

RE: bitsavers rsync server down

2017-04-20 Thread Jay West via cctalk
Ben wrote... Just how big is the server? Bitsavers that is publicly visible is around 275gb but there's some other bitsavers working areas. But the classiccmp server... has significantly more than that, due to all the classiccmp related websites and archives/repositories that are hosted

Re: Bitsavers size

2017-04-20 Thread ben via cctalk
On 4/20/2017 11:49 AM, Shoppa, Tim via cctalk wrote: Ben asks: Just how big is the server? As a wish list, I've always wanted that as a offline set of DVD's for the common stuff. The bitsavers archive is 267 Gbytes. So at 4.7G per DVD, it comes out to almost 60 DVD's. I remember a PDQ Bach

Re: Bitsavers size

2017-04-20 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 6:49 PM, Shoppa, Tim via cctalk wrote: > Ben asks: >> Just how big is the server? >> As a wish list, I've always wanted that as a offline set of DVD's for the >> common stuff. > > The bitsavers archive is 267 Gbytes. > > So at 4.7G per DVD, it comes out to almost 60 DVD's.

Bitsavers size

2017-04-20 Thread Shoppa, Tim via cctalk
Ben asks: > Just how big is the server? > As a wish list, I've always wanted that as a offline set of DVD's for the > common stuff. The bitsavers archive is 267 Gbytes. So at 4.7G per DVD, it comes out to almost 60 DVD's. I remember a PDQ Bach radio quiz show where the prize was The Wagner Ring

Re: How to refurbish plotter pens?

2017-04-20 Thread Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk
Hi, I read that discussion. > Jon you were very very lucky to get that wooden box and its contents > !, There were basic kits and I don't know the original word, but > 'super kits'. A super kit sold on eBay not too long ago. I have 90% of > the basic kit. BTW my 565 is also IBM branded. It came