Re: Repurposed Art (ahem...)

2017-07-18 Thread Pete Lancashire via cctalk
The paint job doesn't bother me much. I had a working 26 that I donated to CHM. Its things like selling the keyboard then expecting to get more the $20 for the remains. My Teletype version of that is a Western Union 2-B in good shape missing all it key caps and motor. Both pulled to sell to the

Re: Thousandth data book uploaded to bitsavers

2017-07-18 Thread steve shumaker via cctalk
On 7/18/2017 11:33 AM, Al Kossow via cctech wrote: On 7/16/17 7:44 PM, steve shumaker via cctalk wrote: Actually that does trigger a thought... Is there a (simple) way to get a list of the scanned ones? fgrep _dataB IndexByDate.txt |sort -k 3 gets you a sorted list the current uploaded

Re: Repurposed Art (ahem...)

2017-07-18 Thread Pete Lancashire via cctalk
I collect older teleprinters (Teletype, Morkrum-Kleinschmidt, etc) and twice now I've seen where they have had their keyboards removed and the machine put out for scrap. One a quite rare Navy version of the model 28 known as a compact case variation where someone had used what looked like a

Re: Repurposed Art (ahem...)

2017-07-18 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 07/18/2017 09:45 PM, ben via cctalk wrote: Did any one ever use keypunch to tape or 8' floppy? I got a Pertec key to tape machine surplus in about 1982 or so. it had a keyboard and a field of submini lights that lit up the letters, numbers, etc on a panel. You could write 80 character

Re: Repurposed Art (ahem...)

2017-07-18 Thread ben via cctalk
On 7/18/2017 2:11 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: On Tue, 18 Jul 2017, Ed via cctalk wrote: at least they did not glue a bunch of gears on it and call it steam punk... I have run across weird glued and punked items on ebay... what a bunch of AH's a model 026 punch is already a

Re: New HP42s clone almost available

2017-07-18 Thread Ian Finder via cctalk
On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 12:07 AM, Ed via cctalk wrote: > Good hear it stood the test of time! As an HP PC dealer in the 80s > into early 90s we ha a calculator contract with HP also and... > we sold the heck out of them! > > Is it the only one of the 10 series

Re: Repurposed Art (ahem...)

2017-07-18 Thread Steve Malikoff via cctalk
Ed said > Re-purposed art or vandalism? > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/253015301943 > > Ed > -- > Ik email, dus ik besta. I would guess that the paint used was acrylic rather than oil enamel. Being water-based it ought to be easier to remove if the casings were taken off and pressure washed, than

Re: Repurposed Art (ahem...)

2017-07-18 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017, Ed via cctalk wrote: at least they did not glue a bunch of gears on it and call it steam punk... I have run across weird glued and punked items on ebay... what a bunch of AH's a model 026 punch is already a masterpiece of steam punk. A model 029, on the other hand,

Re: Repurposed Art (ahem...)

2017-07-18 Thread Ed via cctalk
at least they did not glue a bunch of gears on it and call it steam punk... I have run across weird glued and punked items on ebay... what a bunch of AH's In a message dated 7/18/2017 7:20:21 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes: On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at

Re: Repurposed Art (ahem...)

2017-07-18 Thread Ed via cctalk
tell ya about it sometime offlist Mike In a message dated 7/18/2017 12:41:31 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes: It wasn't the LIS collectors that did that, it was 20th Century Fox back in the '60s. I'm not aware of a single LIS collector that ever had

Re: Repurposed Art (ahem...)

2017-07-18 Thread Ed via cctalk
Hey Pete! there was also a rage of ripping off the early key tops with the metal rim and celoid over the letters to make women's jewelry... the scoundrels ripped up tty units and typewriters also. These are the teletype units I really like to collect ... those with the old keys..

Re: Repurposed Art (ahem...)

2017-07-18 Thread Mike Loewen via cctalk
It wasn't the LIS collectors that did that, it was 20th Century Fox back in the '60s. I'm not aware of a single LIS collector that ever had access to a B205. Mike Loewen mloe...@cpumagic.scol.pa.us Old Technology

Re: Repurposed Art (ahem...)

2017-07-18 Thread Ed via cctalk
or lost in space collectors that rip the b205 front panel from the machine and leave the rest to be destroyed in fire or flood... In a message dated 7/18/2017 11:27:44 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes: Keyboard collectors are a great evil in this

Re: Repurposed Art (ahem...)

2017-07-18 Thread r.stricklin via cctalk
On Jul 18, 2017, at 6:03 AM, E. Groenenberg via cctech wrote: > Re-purposed art or vandalism? > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/253015301943 I guess that depends on whether there's a record of it in the Customer Engineering Incident Reporting Log Book. ok bear. -- until further notice

Re: Repurposed Art (ahem...)

2017-07-18 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 18 July 2017 at 20:27, Ian Finder via cctalk wrote: > Keyboard collectors are a great evil in this world. I liken them to ivory > poachers. I appreciate that bottom-posting just got a bit harder on Gmail, but it still works. I confess to much trepidation at the hate

Re: Thousandth data book uploaded to bitsavers

2017-07-18 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 7/16/17 7:44 PM, steve shumaker via cctalk wrote: > Actually that does trigger a thought... Is there a (simple) way to get a list > of the scanned ones? fgrep _dataB IndexByDate.txt |sort -k 3 gets you a sorted list the current uploaded pdfs that are filed as data books IndexByDate.txt

Re: Repurposed Art (ahem...)

2017-07-18 Thread Ian Finder via cctalk
Keyboard collectors are a great evil in this world. I liken them to ivory poachers. On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 10:03 AM, Fred Cisin via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Re-purposed art or vandalism? >>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/253015301943 >>> >> > On Tue, 18 Jul 2017, Eric Christopherson

Re: Repurposed Art (ahem...)

2017-07-18 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Re-purposed art or vandalism? http://www.ebay.com/itm/253015301943 On Tue, 18 Jul 2017, Eric Christopherson via cctalk wrote: It (literally) looks like something out of Pee-Wee's Playhouse. Earlier than that. The seller may have grown up with Peewee Herman, but that kind of painting

Re: Repurposed Art (ahem...)

2017-07-18 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
the keyboard is gone On Tue, 18 Jul 2017, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: When they die, I hope whoever got it ends up in that special Hell where keyboard collectors go. It has every keyboard they ever wanted, but they have no arms. They can keep their arms. Just no FINGERS.

Re: Anyone Know Anything About This TURBOchannel Card?

2017-07-18 Thread Anders Nelson via cctalk
Ha, awesome! That card looked like it possessed more computing power than the machine it was inserted into. =] -- Anders Nelson +1 (517) 775-6129 www.erogear.com On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 11:26 AM, John Forecast via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Rob, > That’s probably a J-Video

Re: Repurposed Art (ahem...)

2017-07-18 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 07/18/2017 08:03 AM, E. Groenenberg via cctalk wrote: Re-purposed art or vandalism? http://www.ebay.com/itm/253015301943 Ed -- Ik email, dus ik besta. looks like it might still work! No, I don't think that's vandalism. Heck, I saw some decorated machines in real use that were not too

Re: Solaris 8 & Oracle 8i for Intel

2017-07-18 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 18 July 2017 at 10:52, Richard Smith via cctalk wrote: > Hello, > > My clear-out has just revealed a complete install pack on CD for Solaris 8 > for Intel platform, and a boxed set of Oracle 8i installation CDs for > Solaris on Intel. > > Are these of interest to anyone

Re: Repurposed Art (ahem...)

2017-07-18 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk
On 2017-07-18 12:40 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: On 7/18/17 8:34 AM, Paul Berger via cctalk wrote: the keyboard is gone When they die, I hope whoever got it ends up in that special Hell where keyboard collectors go. It has every keyboard they ever wanted, but they have no arms. Yes

Re: Repurposed Art (ahem...)

2017-07-18 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
Hey, it could be worse. A related auction shows a model 26 (not repainted) being offered for $25,000. Bizarre. paul > On Jul 18, 2017, at 11:34 AM, Paul Berger via cctalk > wrote: > > Oh the horror! > > Note in the auction says that the keyboard is gone, but

Re: Repurposed Art (ahem...)

2017-07-18 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 7/18/17 8:34 AM, Paul Berger via cctalk wrote: > the keyboard is gone When they die, I hope whoever got it ends up in that special Hell where keyboard collectors go. It has every keyboard they ever wanted, but they have no arms.

Re: PDP11 and Simh Floating point

2017-07-18 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jul 18, 2017, at 11:04 AM, Douglas Taylor via cctalk > wrote: > > How does SIMH perform floating point operations for the PDP-11 simulation? > > If I run a numerical computation on real PDP-11 hardware and also on Simh how > do you talk about the comparison? You

Re: HP 300-series boot rom archive?

2017-07-18 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 7/17/17 8:42 PM, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote: > Yep, I found that one, but it's not useful for actually repairing anything > beyond basic board-swapping. Internally HP maintained Technical Information Packages on their products which actually had the useful information, though it isn't

Re: Repurposed Art (ahem...)

2017-07-18 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk
Oh the horror! Note in the auction says that the keyboard is gone, but still wants $599 .99 and you need to pick it up yourself, u maybe not Paul. On 2017-07-18 11:27 AM, Cory Heisterkamp via cctalk wrote: On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 9:14 AM, Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk <

Re: Anyone Know Anything About This TURBOchannel Card?

2017-07-18 Thread John Forecast via cctalk
Rob, That’s probably a J-Video board, a prototype built by DEC SRC for the J300 series of video and audio adapters. You can find more information in Digital Technical Journal, Volume 7, Number 4. Around that time, mid-1994, I was working on the software for a PC ISA board which would

PDP11 and Simh Floating point

2017-07-18 Thread Douglas Taylor via cctalk
How does SIMH perform floating point operations for the PDP-11 simulation? If I run a numerical computation on real PDP-11 hardware and also on Simh how do you talk about the comparison? Doug

Re: Repurposed Art (ahem...)

2017-07-18 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 10:27 AM, Cory Heisterkamp via cctalk wrote: >>> I would think it would be worth more in its original condition. > ... at this point I'd wager the larger audience either wants it > for parts (in which case $599 is probably also too much) That was

Re: Repurposed Art (ahem...)

2017-07-18 Thread Cory Heisterkamp via cctalk
On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 9:14 AM, Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > On 18.07.2017 16:10, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > >> >> I would think it would be worth more in its original condition. >> > > I'm not sure. Because it looks cool. And I'm not sure if an old

Re: Repurposed Art (ahem...)

2017-07-18 Thread Eric Christopherson via cctalk
On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 8:03 AM, E. Groenenberg via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > Re-purposed art or vandalism? > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/253015301943 > > Ed > -- > Ik email, dus ik besta. > > It (literally) looks like something out of Pee-Wee's Playhouse. -- Eric

Re: Repurposed Art (ahem...)

2017-07-18 Thread Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk
On 18.07.2017 16:10, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: I would think it would be worth more in its original condition. I'm not sure. Because it looks cool. And I'm not sure if an old IBM punch is worth that much. And there's quite a possibility that people (users) remember the funny

RE: Repurposed Art (ahem...)

2017-07-18 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
I would think it would be worth more in its original condition. bill From: cctalk [cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] on behalf of E. Groenenberg via cctalk [cctalk@classiccmp.org] Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 9:03 AM To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject:

Re: Repurposed Art (ahem...)

2017-07-18 Thread Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk
On 18.07.2017 15:42, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > From: Ed Groenenberg > Re-purposed art or vandalism? Given that the keyboard was at one point there (in the images), but has now apparently been sold separate, clearly the latter... Stupid idiot who sold the keyboard

Re: Repurposed Art (ahem...)

2017-07-18 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Ed Groenenberg > Re-purposed art or vandalism? Given that the keyboard was at one point there (in the images), but has now apparently been sold separate, clearly the latter... Noel

Repurposed Art (ahem...)

2017-07-18 Thread E. Groenenberg via cctalk
Re-purposed art or vandalism? http://www.ebay.com/itm/253015301943 Ed -- Ik email, dus ik besta.

Re: Solaris 8 & Oracle 8i for Intel

2017-07-18 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
I'm interested. I have a Sparc Solaris 8, not sure when my copies of Intel 8 would show up. let me poke the web for iso's on the solaris. The Oracle, i guess is developer versions? Main interest would be Solaris of course. thanks Jim On 7/18/2017 1:52 AM, Richard Smith via cctalk wrote:

Solaris 8 & Oracle 8i for Intel

2017-07-18 Thread Richard Smith via cctalk
Hello, My clear-out has just revealed a complete install pack on CD for Solaris 8 for Intel platform, and a boxed set of Oracle 8i installation CDs for Solaris on Intel. Are these of interest to anyone here or should I trash them? All the best, Richard Bristol, England --

RE: HP 12653A line printer interface

2017-07-18 Thread David Collins via cctalk
Unfortunately, there are none of the big impact printers in the collection. In my days as an HP Customer Engineer I worked on the 2613 and 2617 drum printers and the 2611 and 2619 chain printers. I don’t recall ever working on a 2618. Those drums and chains would be covered in caked on ink

Re: HP 12653A line printer interface

2017-07-18 Thread Curious Marc via cctalk
Cool. Thanks for looking. Do you guys also have some of the full 132 column ones? In particular the HP2618A or related, 1200 lpm impact chain/train technology: http://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=331 . I just acquired a 1200 lpm Memorex that looks like it is a rebadged Dataproducts with