Re: looking at buying a pocket PC / PDA

2017-11-03 Thread Sam O'nella via cctalk
Lol that's indeed the one. I had no idea it was same era though. I think i was 
looking at one years ago as an option to document my collection and serial 
numbers. I realized despite the cool factor, i would be putting my faith in 
that system with no back-up and less ability to export elsewhere so never 
followed through with it.
 Original message From: Fred Cisin via cctalk 
 Date: 11/3/17  10:52 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: "General 
Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"  Subject: Re: 
looking at buying a pocket PC / PDA 
On Fri, 3 Nov 2017, Sam O'nella via cctalk wrote:
> I could have sworn there was a newer black colored m100 type system that 
> someone was selling a bunch of on ebay. Iirc they were calling it the 
> tandy killer and i thougbt it was a "slate".

Convergent Technologies "Workslate".

sexy machine
Far from a killer.
Unless you are one who defines spreadsheet as "killing" word processor.


Take a look at the Epson Geneva PX-8.  CP/M.



Re: Which Dec Emulation is the MOST useful and Versatile?

2017-11-03 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 6:07 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Could be.  Then again, today's main architectures are all decades old;
> they get refined but not redone.
>

I'm not sure whether you consider the 64-bit ARM architecture to be one of
"today's main architectures", though it's probably shipping in higher unit
volume than x86. Anyhow, the 64-bit ARM architecture is pretty much brand
new; it's not the 32-bit ARM architecture stretched to 64 bits.


RE: HP 2640 character set generation manual in the UK

2017-11-03 Thread CuriousMarc via cctalk
Dave,

Thank you so much for enquiring. Not an uncommon problem, scanning (and even 
just cataloging) is so resource intensive. Well, at least they cataloged it 
properly and made the entry available on the web, so we should be grateful for 
that. Is someone in the UK close enough to go view it and take pictures of the 
pages? Would be nice if they could consider lending it to another institution 
or a researcher for scanning (CHM, hpmuseum.net, come to mind). 

Marc

 

From: Dave Wade [mailto:dave.g4...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2017 10:38 AM
To: CuriousMarc; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: RE: HP 2640 character set generation manual in the UK

 

Well they say they would like to scan but no resource. Available to view on 
three days notice

Dave

 

On 3 Nov 2017 10:41, "Dave Wade"  wrote:

Marc,
 They seem to have a big collection of Manuals but no intention of scanning
them, or making them available other than on personal request. I am in the
UK but have never been. Let me e-mail and ask.
Dave

> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of
> CuriousMarc via cctalk
> Sent: 03 November 2017 07:10
> To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
> 
> Subject: HP 2640 character set generation manual in the UK
>
> The link below is from the computer museum in Cambridge, UK, which
> seems to have a copy of an HP 2640 terminal manual I am looking for. Is
> anyone from that museum on the list? Does any of the UK members know
> them?
> http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/det/14373/HP-2640-Series-Character-
> Set-Ge
> neration/
>
> Does anyone on the list have a copy of this manual?
>
> Marc
>
>





Re: looking at buying a pocket PC / PDA

2017-11-03 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk

On Fri, 3 Nov 2017, Sam O'nella via cctalk wrote:
I could have sworn there was a newer black colored m100 type system that 
someone was selling a bunch of on ebay. Iirc they were calling it the 
tandy killer and i thougbt it was a "slate".


Convergent Technologies "Workslate".

sexy machine
Far from a killer.
Unless you are one who defines spreadsheet as "killing" word processor.


Take a look at the Epson Geneva PX-8.  CP/M.



Re: looking at buying a pocket PC / PDA

2017-11-03 Thread Sam O'nella via cctalk
I could have sworn there was a newer black colored m100 type system that 
someone was selling a bunch of on ebay. Iirc they were calling it the tandy 
killer and i thougbt it was a "slate".
I did forget about the m100 pc expansion though (price is always higher than 
desirable). But best of both worlds. Super portable m100 and plug it in at desk 
ams have a monitor, memory expansion and dual disk drive. Always wanted to find 
one for the right price.
The poqet is also a great mention for compatability in a palmtop.  I think the 
bad part is all these great choices also have higher prices for their 
usability.  You sort of "need" the expansions on the poqet.  
Back to the hp 200lx standard (small plug) but sorta easy to make a serial 
cable and use as a termial also.
That's why we only find the lesser units and these all hover over 100.:-(
null

Re: looking at buying a pocket PC / PDA

2017-11-03 Thread Mike Stein via cctalk
- Original Message - 
From: "Evan Koblentz via cctalk" 
To: "drlegendre ." ; "Liam Proven" ; 
"General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" 
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2017 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: looking at buying a pocket PC / PDA


>> Hey, TRS-80 M100 rocks! I've got several, and they all work perfectly to 
>> this day. Built by Kyocera, who isn't known for making junk.
> 
> I agree, just not with the nutty claim that real writers still use them 
> as modern tools. That was an urban legend with maybe some tiny grain of 
> truth 25 years ago.

Well, if you're defining 'writer' as "a professional full-time journalist" 
whose main concerns are deadlines, word counts, editors' demands etc. and who 
has to be connected to the Internet every second then you're probably correct 
when it comes to usage today, although I wouldn't be surprised if some do use 
an obsolete device for jotting down ideas and notes as the OP wants to do.

But I didn't say *professional* writers still use M100s. I said "some writers", 
and I think the folks who self-publish stories on the Internet, enter writing 
contests, contribute to the various on-line magazines etc. or just write for 
pleasure and entertainment of friends and family are every bit as much 
'writers' as your elite group of 'real writers', and some of them do indeed 
prefer the M100 and its cousins to their modern laptops and desktops for its 
unique features.

As Bill Loguidice observed in a thread elsewhere about your opinionated post, 
"...there really is no true modern equivalent to what the M100 series can do", 
especially when equipped with modern multi-MB RAM and storage expansions, USB, 
WiFi and Bluetooth connectivity options, multiple tools and programs instantly 
accessible from ROM etc., etc.

> "It was an urban legend in the 1990s that a handful of old farts in the 
> entirely sportswriting industry (thousands of writers overall) may 
"still" be using their Model 100s."

How many in a 'handful'? Perhaps not many in the 90s but they were certainly 
popular with journalists in the 80s; a few years ago I chatted for a while with 
a British professional full-time motorsport journalist who did indeed use an 
M100 for composing and uploading, as did quite a few of his fellow journalists 
at the time. Wikipedia and Infoworld: 

"Tandy stated that the Model 100's sales "have only been moderate", and an 
InfoWorld columnist later claimed that "it was only journalists" who had been 
buying it. The system's popularity with journalists, however, probably helped 
Radio Shack improve the company's poor reputation with the press and in the 
industry."

A little before your time of course...

But despite (or because of) your use of rude words like 'nutty' and 'BS' you 
have provided a few chuckles for the folks in the user groups(s) who are or 
know writers who do in fact use M100s and similar devices.

They just may know more about who uses them today and for what than you presume 
to know..

m


Re: looking at buying a pocket PC / PDA

2017-11-03 Thread Ed via cctalk
In days of  old  would  use one  with a  50  ft  ribbon cable as a 
'portable' console  fro one of my hp 2000  systems I  would  just  rag it 
around to 
wherever I was in the  Computer Room.
or into  the front office  west of the computer room as  the   back of  the 
2000 was against  that  wall. In  those  days seemed  so amazing  to do so!
Ed#
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 11/3/2017 10:57:23 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:

Hey,  TRS-80 M100 rocks! I've got several, and they all work perfectly to
this  day. Built by Kyocera, who isn't known for making junk..

The 30+ hr.  battery life alone is enough to earn them a high rating, and
they have a  built-in terminal program. I've used them to control headless
Linux boxes  several times via serial port. I believe they do 9600 or
possibly  19200.


Re: Which Dec Emulation is the MOST useful and Versatile?

2017-11-03 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk


> On Nov 3, 2017, at 11:58 AM, allison via cctalk  wrote:
> 
> Emulation of another computer was important to two groups early on...
> designers
> that wanted to try new architecture and the result of evolution and
> retirement of
> hardware the need to run costly to develop programs for which source or the
> needed components had become extinct.  The latter I believe is more rampant
> since the mid 70s with machines getting replaced with bigger and faster
> at an
> ever increasing rate. 

Could be.  Then again, today's main architectures are all decades old; they get 
refined but not redone.

Emulation of new architectures on old ones goes back quite a long time.  I've 
seen a document from 1964, describing the emulation of the Electrologica X8 
(which came out around 1964) on its predecessor the X1 (which dates back to 
1958).  

paul



Re: looking at buying a pocket PC / PDA

2017-11-03 Thread Evan Koblentz via cctalk
Hey, TRS-80 M100 rocks! I've got several, and they all work perfectly to 
this day. Built by Kyocera, who isn't known for making junk.


I agree, just not with the nutty claim that real writers still use them 
as modern tools. That was an urban legend with maybe some tiny grain of 
truth 25 years ago.


Re: Which Dec Emulation is the MOST useful and Versatile?

2017-11-03 Thread allison via cctalk
On 11/02/2017 08:18 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Oct 2017, Dave Wade via cctalk wrote:
>> I am not sure they invented computer emulation. I think that the concept
>> Emulation/Simulation is as old as, or perhaps even older than computing.
>
> Henry Ford is attributed with "car racing began 5 minutes after the
> second car was built."
> BUT, I'm not sure whether the second computer cared about emulating
> the first one.
>
>
Emulation of another computer was important to two groups early on...
designers
that wanted to try new architecture and the result of evolution and
retirement of
hardware the need to run costly to develop programs for which source or the
needed components had become extinct.  The latter I believe is more rampant
since the mid 70s with machines getting replaced with bigger and faster
at an
ever increasing rate.   That cycle is wound so tight now that if you can
buy it
its likely obsolete.  It is also part of the more computers being
available and
CPU cycles on them being cheaper back in the late 70s and into the 80s made
it useful to use them to get the work from the last machine useful to design
the next machine. 

Personal example:  Altair built and running by Jan 75 as an early adoptor.
less than a year and a half NS* Horizon.  Why?  First Z80 runs 8080 code,
it was faster, better hardware.   It ran deeper but thats the 30,000 ft
view of
change.  And so it went to faster, more memory till PDP-11 push that to
auxiliary role followed by my first 32bit VAX.  It would take 486DX/66 with
networking to dislodge that.   Fortunately the bigger faster could emulate
the older slower sufficiently to run the software that was of greater value.

So here we are...  WIN10 has to have emulation/visualization to run old
32bit
and earlier software as 64bit architecture gets in the way.  The only
reason
the system is 64 bit is replacement of a dead 32bit that was
satisfactory in
every way save for its now unobtainium.  So it goes

I'll bet that the Henry Ford comment was followed by a comment from
someone making a better car to beat the second one!  It also forgets the
market for used cars was born right then. 


Allison



Re: looking at buying a pocket PC / PDA

2017-11-03 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 5:21 PM, Liam Proven via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On 3 November 2017 at 22:53, Fred Cisin via cctalk
>  wrote:
>
> > Exactly!
> >
> > But, they sometimes try to convince us that it means "Personal Computer
> > Memory Card Instustry Association", which is far less credible
>
> OK, next, for 2 points. What does TWAIN stand for? No conferring or
> consulting research materials.


It's the initials from the French name for "Standard Scanner Interface" :)

Warner


Re: looking at buying a pocket PC / PDA

2017-11-03 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 3 November 2017 at 22:53, Fred Cisin via cctalk
 wrote:

> Exactly!
>
> But, they sometimes try to convince us that it means "Personal Computer
> Memory Card Instustry Association", which is far less credible

OK, next, for 2 points. What does TWAIN stand for? No conferring or
consulting research materials.

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Re: HP 2640 character set generation manual in the UK

2017-11-03 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk

what  about the  kind  folks at the hp  museum?

. . . and' don't they have some sort of archive in Santa  Rosa?

On Fri, 3 Nov 2017, couryho...@aol.com wrote:

no the  other  hp museum!


I know.  I was trying to joke about their recent loss, but that one is 
probably TOO SOON.  :-)




Re: looking at buying a pocket PC / PDA

2017-11-03 Thread jim stephens via cctalk



On 11/3/2017 2:20 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:

Is there a reason to AVOID mentioning the Poqet?
There is one and two accessories for sale right now.  I'd forgotten 
about it till I stumbled over it searching for other stuff.


POQET-PC-Prime-model-PQ0181-SN-01817766
https://www.ebay.com/itm/202096438151

POQET-serial-port-adapter-PQ-0571-with-BlackBox-serial-port-crossover-switch
https://www.ebay.com/itm/202096456575

POQET-Parallel-Port-Cable-model-PQ-0572
https://www.ebay.com/itm/202096426280

The seller has split up the sales, not a good thing, I'm thinking. Seems 
like an all or none sort of thing.  It's up higher now that I'd buy, but 
I was reluctant with the parts in separate auctions.


thanks
Jim


Re: looking at buying a pocket PC / PDA

2017-11-03 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk

On Fri, 3 Nov 2017, drlegendre . wrote:

PCMCIA... People Can't Memorize Computer Industry Acronyms?


Exactly!

But, they sometimes try to convince us that it means "Personal Computer 
Memory Card Instustry Association", which is far less credible




Re: looking at buying a pocket PC / PDA

2017-11-03 Thread drlegendre . via cctalk
PCMCIA... People Can't Memorize Computer Industry Acronyms?

On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 4:20 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk  wrote:

> Is there a reason to AVOID mentioning the Poqet?
>
> The original MSRP at announcement was WAY too high, and priced it out of
> the market, but the actual/street price wasn't bad.
>
> Larger keyboard that the HP (which was otherwise a better deal for the
> price)
> AA batteries with long life.
> two PCMCIA slots (before PCMCIA was officially named and standardized)
> Bus connector, with a few unobtanium accessories, such as 3.5" drive.
> Had LOTUS available as a ROM card!
> MS-DOS 5.00   - I learned how to write TSRs on one.
>


Re: HP 2640 character set generation manual in the UK

2017-11-03 Thread David Collins via cctalk
Already checked, not one we have unfortunately. If one turns up we’ll be happy 
to put it up on the website though!

David Collins
HP Computer Museum

Sent from my iPad

> On 4 Nov 2017, at 7:17 am, Ed via cctalk  wrote:
> 
> no the  other  hp museum!
> across the pond!
> http://hpmuseum.net/
> 
> good people!
> 
> 
> it may already be online  they have  done a  good   job  scanning  stuff.
> 
> ed#
> 
> 
> In a message dated 11/3/2017 12:30:36 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
> cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
> 
>>> Well they say they would like to scan but no resource. Available to  
>>> view on three days notice
>> On Fri, 3 Nov 2017, Ed via cctalk  wrote:
>> 
>> what  about the  kind  folks at the hp  museum?
> 
> . . . and' don't they have some sort of archive in Santa  Rosa?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


Re: looking at buying a pocket PC / PDA

2017-11-03 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk

Is there a reason to AVOID mentioning the Poqet?

The original MSRP at announcement was WAY too high, and priced it out 
of the market, but the actual/street price wasn't bad.


Larger keyboard that the HP (which was otherwise a better deal for the 
price)

AA batteries with long life.
two PCMCIA slots (before PCMCIA was officially named and standardized)
Bus connector, with a few unobtanium accessories, such as 3.5" drive.
Had LOTUS available as a ROM card!
MS-DOS 5.00   - I learned how to write TSRs on one.


Re: HP 2640 character set generation manual in the UK

2017-11-03 Thread Ed via cctalk
no the  other  hp museum!
across the pond!
http://hpmuseum.net/
 
good people!
 
 
it may already be online  they have  done a  good   job  scanning  stuff.
 
ed#
 
 
In a message dated 11/3/2017 12:30:36 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:

>  > Well they say they would like to scan but no resource. Available to  
> > view on three days notice
On Fri, 3 Nov 2017, Ed via cctalk  wrote:
> what  about the  kind  folks at the hp  museum?

. . . and' don't they have some sort of archive in Santa  Rosa?







Re: HP 2640 character set generation manual in the UK

2017-11-03 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
> Well they say they would like to scan but no resource. Available to 
> view on three days notice

On Fri, 3 Nov 2017, Ed via cctalk wrote:

what  about the  kind  folks at the hp museum?


. . . and' don't they have some sort of archive in Santa Rosa?






Re: Vintage Computer Calendar 2018

2017-11-03 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen via cctalk
FYI,

On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 4:59 AM, Syd Bolton via cctalk
 wrote:
>
>
> Hey folks;
> The Personal Computer Museum (http://www.pcmuseum.ca) is
> offering a beautiful 2018 vintage computer calendar as a fundraiser. The
> calendars are in hand and the cost is $20 Canadian (no tax).

I got my calendar today, it looks great!


Have a nice weekend everyone!
-- 
Regards,
Torfinn Ingolfsen


Re: looking at buying a pocket PC / PDA

2017-11-03 Thread drlegendre . via cctalk
Hey, TRS-80 M100 rocks! I've got several, and they all work perfectly to
this day. Built by Kyocera, who isn't known for making junk..

The 30+ hr. battery life alone is enough to earn them a high rating, and
they have a built-in terminal program. I've used them to control headless
Linux boxes several times via serial port. I believe they do 9600 or
possibly 19200.

If anyone is still in want of a PDA, I have a very nice Palm IIIxe w/
cradle that should have a decent home. It's already had the ROM flashed to
the newest supported version. Prefer trade for C-64 stuff.

On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 3:36 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On 3 November 2017 at 01:03, Evan Koblentz via cctalk
>  wrote:
> >
> > BS.
> >
> > I've been a professional full-time journalist for 20 years. No one in
> their
> > right mind is using anything older than a last-gen laptop. Maybe two
> > generations if they're poor like me.
>
> Not full-time, but still a paid scribbler for everything from PC Mag to
> MacUser.
>
> In this century, I have written columns on a Mac Classic II (in the
> 21st century) and on an early-1990s 386sx laptop under WordPerfect
> 5.1. I have toted a Thinkpad Butterfly internationally, repeatedly. I
> am currently building a bootable Live USB with PC-DOS 7.1 and MS Word
> 6 for DOS as a distraction-free writing tool.
>
> Yeah, some people totally do. Weirdos, probably, but yes.
>
> And I am typing this on an IBM Model M (made 1994-05-06) which is
> attached to my Core i5 Thinkpad X220, bought used in January for £150,
> which is my newest and most powerful laptop. In fact probably my
> newest computer of any kind.
>
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Re: HP 2640 character set generation manual in the UK

2017-11-03 Thread Ed via cctalk
what  about the  kind  folks at the hp museum?
 
Ed#
 
 
In a message dated 11/3/2017 10:38:04 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:

Well  they say they would like to scan but no resource. Available to view  
on
three days notice
Dave

On 3 Nov 2017 10:41, "Dave Wade"   wrote:

> Marc,
>  They seem  to have a big collection of Manuals but no intention of 
scanning
> them,  or making them available other than on personal request. I am in 
the
>  UK but have never been. Let me e-mail and ask.
> Dave
>
>  > -Original Message-
> > From: cctalk  [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of
> > CuriousMarc  via cctalk
> > Sent: 03 November 2017 07:10
> > To: 'General  Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
> >  
> > Subject: HP 2640 character set  generation manual in the UK
> >
> > The link below is from  the computer museum in Cambridge, UK, which
> > seems to have a copy  of an HP 2640 terminal manual I am looking for. Is
> > anyone from  that museum on the list? Does any of the UK members know
> >  them?
> >  http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/det/14373/HP-2640-Series-Character-
>  > Set-Ge
> > neration/
> >
> > Does anyone on  the list have a copy of this manual?
> >
> > Marc
>  >
>  >
>
>
>



RE: HP 2640 character set generation manual in the UK

2017-11-03 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
Well they say they would like to scan but no resource. Available to view on
three days notice
Dave

On 3 Nov 2017 10:41, "Dave Wade"  wrote:

> Marc,
>  They seem to have a big collection of Manuals but no intention of scanning
> them, or making them available other than on personal request. I am in the
> UK but have never been. Let me e-mail and ask.
> Dave
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of
> > CuriousMarc via cctalk
> > Sent: 03 November 2017 07:10
> > To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
> > 
> > Subject: HP 2640 character set generation manual in the UK
> >
> > The link below is from the computer museum in Cambridge, UK, which
> > seems to have a copy of an HP 2640 terminal manual I am looking for. Is
> > anyone from that museum on the list? Does any of the UK members know
> > them?
> > http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/det/14373/HP-2640-Series-Character-
> > Set-Ge
> > neration/
> >
> > Does anyone on the list have a copy of this manual?
> >
> > Marc
> >
> >
>
>
>


RE: HP 2640 character set generation manual in the UK

2017-11-03 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
Marc,
 They seem to have a big collection of Manuals but no intention of scanning
them, or making them available other than on personal request. I am in the
UK but have never been. Let me e-mail and ask.
Dave

> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of
> CuriousMarc via cctalk
> Sent: 03 November 2017 07:10
> To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
> 
> Subject: HP 2640 character set generation manual in the UK
> 
> The link below is from the computer museum in Cambridge, UK, which
> seems to have a copy of an HP 2640 terminal manual I am looking for. Is
> anyone from that museum on the list? Does any of the UK members know
> them?
> http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/det/14373/HP-2640-Series-Character-
> Set-Ge
> neration/
> 
> Does anyone on the list have a copy of this manual?
> 
> Marc
> 
> 




RE: Which Dec Emulation is the MOST useful and Versatile?

2017-11-03 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Fred
Cisin
> via cctalk
> Sent: 03 November 2017 00:19
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> 
> Subject: RE: Which Dec Emulation is the MOST useful and Versatile?
> 
> On Sun, 29 Oct 2017, Dave Wade via cctalk wrote:
> > I am not sure they invented computer emulation. I think that the
> > concept Emulation/Simulation is as old as, or perhaps even older than
> computing.
> 
> Henry Ford is attributed with "car racing began 5 minutes after the second
car
> was built."
> BUT, I'm not sure whether the second computer caared about emulating the
> first one.
> 
Fred

It was the other way round. So you know the second computer will be better
than the first, but you haven't built it yet, so you emulate it on the
first. It's a common technique and was used by the ENIAC team to emulate an
EDVAC type machine, IBM also used it extensively when developing new
hardware, especially 370/XA...

Dave



Re: looking at buying a pocket PC / PDA

2017-11-03 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 3 November 2017 at 01:03, Evan Koblentz via cctalk
 wrote:
>
> BS.
>
> I've been a professional full-time journalist for 20 years. No one in their
> right mind is using anything older than a last-gen laptop. Maybe two
> generations if they're poor like me.

Not full-time, but still a paid scribbler for everything from PC Mag to MacUser.

In this century, I have written columns on a Mac Classic II (in the
21st century) and on an early-1990s 386sx laptop under WordPerfect
5.1. I have toted a Thinkpad Butterfly internationally, repeatedly. I
am currently building a bootable Live USB with PC-DOS 7.1 and MS Word
6 for DOS as a distraction-free writing tool.

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HP 2640 character set generation manual in the UK

2017-11-03 Thread CuriousMarc via cctalk
The link below is from the computer museum in Cambridge, UK, which seems to
have a copy of an HP 2640 terminal manual I am looking for. Is anyone from
that museum on the list? Does any of the UK members know them?
http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/det/14373/HP-2640-Series-Character-Set-Ge
neration/

Does anyone on the list have a copy of this manual?

Marc