RE: 3420 tape drive

2018-01-22 Thread Rich Alderson via cctalk
From: Pmungai Njau via cctalk Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 6:06 AM > Am looking for the above tape to read and covert some old tapes from > ebcidic to ASCII format. How can I get the tapes in Kenya. Hi, Paul, You do not need an IBM tape drive to convert from EBCDIC to ASCII; all tape drives

Re: Microvax II 'primer'?

2018-01-22 Thread Douglas Taylor via cctalk
I can't believe you 'just carry it into the house' all by yourself, unless you are professional athlete. I also have a MicroVax II in the BA123 world box and it has wheels for a reason!  The damn thing weighs 130 lbs! I took it to the VCF East last year, never do that again.  Too heavy. When I

Re: MY COMPUTER LIKES ME when i speak in BASIC.

2018-01-22 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
My computer likes me when I speak MACRO-10. :-) On Jan 17, 2018 7:28 AM, "Mattis Lind via cctalk" wrote: > I scanned a nice little booklet I found in my fathers stuff. > > "MY COMPUTER LIKES ME when i speak in BASIC" by Bob Albrecht. > >

Re: Sun3 valuations?

2018-01-22 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 1/22/2018 7:07 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: On 1/22/18 5:24 PM, jim stephens via cctalk wrote: Worth noting my 3/260 has a monochrome graphics port x/2x0 CPUs produce 1600 x 1280, ECL 200 MHz dot clock video. CRTs for them are pretty much impossible to find. I have the originals,

Re: Sun3 valuations?

2018-01-22 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 1/22/18 5:24 PM, jim stephens via cctalk wrote: > > Worth noting my 3/260 has a monochrome graphics port x/2x0 CPUs produce 1600 x 1280, ECL 200 MHz dot clock video. CRTs for them are pretty much impossible to find.

RE: CX laser printers (Was: Sun3 valuations?

2018-01-22 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
BTW, for yellowed plastic, Printerworks suggests Sherman Williams poly-urethane paint, color S63EXH4300 On Mon, 22 Jan 2018, Ali via cctalk wrote: Fred is this the off white color of HP printers? At least close. It's what Printerworks says that they use to repaint the Fedex purple printers

RE: CX laser printers (Was: Sun3 valuations?

2018-01-22 Thread Ali via cctalk
> BTW, for yellowed plastic, Printerworks suggests > Sherman Williams poly-urethane paint, color S63EXH4300 Fred is this the off white color of HP printers? -Ali

Re: Sun3 valuations?

2018-01-22 Thread Pete Lancashire via cctalk
Value . If it was in/near where I live a 3/50 with a good display would be oh $100. Finding a monochrome jug would be the biggest issue. -pete On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 5:24 PM, jim stephens via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > On 1/22/2018 3:32 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:

Re: Sun3 valuations?

2018-01-22 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 1/22/2018 3:32 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: On 01/22/2018 04:06 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: So did we ever get an answer to the original question (the value of a Sun3)? All I saw was 'you'd have to pay to recycle them'. I've not seen an answer to that question.  I have seen

Re: Sun3 valuations?

2018-01-22 Thread Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk
> On Jan 22, 2018, at 5:03 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk > wrote: > > >> From: Guy Sotomayor Jr > >> The XGP printed on roll paper. It was a laser type process > > Plain paper? Well, my memory of it being thermal paper could easily be wrong; > it's been a _long_ time,

Re: Sun3 valuations?

2018-01-22 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> I just found a piece, I'll put up a photo. Here ya go: http://gunkies.org/wiki/File:3MegEthernetCable.jpg http://gunkies.org/wiki/File:10MegEthernetCable.jpg I should have put a ruler in, for scale. The 3M is about 2/3 of the thickness of the 10M. The center conductor is about 2mm -

Re: Sun3 valuations?

2018-01-22 Thread Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk
> On Jan 22, 2018, at 4:08 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk > wrote: > >> From: Grant Taylor > >> What makes the copies of papers printed on them special? > > Well, the Dover was the first device (that I know of) that could print _very_ > high-quality graphical/multi-font

Re: Sun3 valuations?

2018-01-22 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Grant Taylor > What makes the copies of papers printed on them special? Well, the Dover was the first device (that I know of) that could print _very_ high-quality graphical/multi-font output, and on ordinary paper. It was also pretty darned fast - a couple of seconds per sheet,

Re: CX laser printers (Was: Sun3 valuations?

2018-01-22 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2018-01-22 6:06 PM, Steven M Jones via cctalk wrote: > On 01/22/2018 11:14, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: >> >> For a brief while, the LaserWriter was the fastest, most powerful >> computer in Apple's limeup.  If you are crazy enough, You can >> communicate directly with it and program in

Re: Sun3 valuations?

2018-01-22 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 1/22/18 3:06 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > I'm trying to remember what kind of cable it used; IIRC it was black coax, > with a woven shield (i.e. not solid like CATV), not quite as large in > diameter as the yellow 10Mbit stuff. To connect up to it, one clamped on a > connector

Re: Sun3 valuations?

2018-01-22 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 01/22/2018 04:06 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: So did we ever get an answer to the original question (the value of a Sun3)? All I saw was 'you'd have to pay to recycle them'. I've not seen an answer to that question. I have seen multiple people raise their virtual hand in interest.

Re: Sun3 valuations?

2018-01-22 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
So did we ever get an answer to the original question (the value of a Sun3)? All I saw was 'you'd have to pay to recycle them'. > From: Grant Taylor >> Before that, if you were lucky enough to be at Stanford, MIT, or CMU, >> you could use the Dover and Altos that were part of

Re: CX laser printers (Was: Sun3 valuations?

2018-01-22 Thread Steven M Jones via cctalk
On 01/22/2018 11:14, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: For a brief while, the LaserWriter was the fastest, most powerful computer in Apple's limeup.  If you are crazy enough, You can communicate directly with it and program in Postscript (similar to Forth) Heck, it was faster than the Macs, PCs,

Re: Help identifying IC

2018-01-22 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
Thanks, all! I'll start digging into clock ICs and see if anything looks like it matches what's in there. - Josh On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 11:03 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote: > On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 9:06 PM, Josh Dersch via cctalk > wrote: > > Hi all

Re: MY COMPUTER LIKES ME when i speak in BASIC.

2018-01-22 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
"MY COMPUTER LIKES ME when I speak in BASIC" Don't anthropomorphize computers. They hate it when you do that. Yes, you might anger them, and then they turn on you (or at least turn surly and uncooperative): https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1331069276l/1304684.jpg No one else is bothered by

Re: MY COMPUTER LIKES ME when i speak in BASIC.

2018-01-22 Thread Jason T via cctalk
On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 5:47 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > "MY COMPUTER LIKES ME when I speak in BASIC" > > Don't anthropomorphize computers. > They hate it when you do that. Yes, you might anger them, and then they turn on you (or at least turn surly and

Re: question on hp9000/310

2018-01-22 Thread Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
> The 310 has no space for an internal disk unit. It is possible to > install HP-UX but it might depend on the amount of memory in the > system. There is diskette images for a version of HP-UX that runs on a > 310 at hpmuseum.net, http://hpmuseum.net/displayitem.php?sw=581 If you > need more

Re: Microvax II 'primer'?

2018-01-22 Thread allison via cctalk
On 1/22/18 8:43 AM, Jules Richardson via cctalk wrote: On 01/21/2018 04:04 PM, Rob Jarratt wrote: You might find that the filter capacitor goes up in smoke soon after you connect the PSU to the mains, even without powering it on. Yes, Adrian Graham mentioned that (via FB), too. I seem to

Re: question on hp9000/310

2018-01-22 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk
Eugene, The 310 has no space for an internal disk unit.  It is possible to install HP-UX but it might depend on the amount of memory in the system.  There is diskette images for a version of HP-UX that runs on a 310 at hpmuseum.net, http://hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?sw=581 If you need

Re: ISO 9816 small keyboard

2018-01-22 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk
Al, I have one of the small keyboards, I would trade it for a Nimitz. Paul. On 2018-01-22 3:12 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: I acquired a copy of CP/M-68K and am trying to pull together the parts for a 9816 to run it. I have Nimitz keyboards, but would like to find its little brother that

ISO: TIPL757A transistor or equivalent

2018-01-22 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
Hi all -- I'm in the middle of repairing a console for a Symbolics 3640. This uses the earlier Phillips-based monitor and it employs a TIPL757A transistor in the deflection circuit. The one in mine is toast and I haven't been able to find a suitable replacement. The datasheet (or at least a

CX laser printers (Was: Sun3 valuations?

2018-01-22 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018, Pete Lancashire via cctalk wrote: Imagen .. yes. The printer we had was a Cannon engine, the same one HP used. All our work was for 8-1/2"x11" and its 300DPI was good enough for our use. LBP8 ? The Canon CX mechanism was used by many companies. Some, such as Apple

ISO 9816 small keyboard

2018-01-22 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
I acquired a copy of CP/M-68K and am trying to pull together the parts for a 9816 to run it. I have Nimitz keyboards, but would like to find its little brother that matches the size of the 9816

Re: Sun3 valuations?

2018-01-22 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 1/22/18 11:01 AM, Toby Thain via cctalk wrote: > I still own an original Canon engine Apple Laserwriter or two. CX engine printers (Laserjet, Laserwriter) are still out there printing. The liquid toner beasts are the ones that have probably gone extinct

Re: Sun3 valuations?

2018-01-22 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2018-01-22 1:24 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > > On 1/22/18 10:08 AM, Pete Lancashire wrote: > >> BTW I had at home a LBP1 ? that came from the R Labs. Quite the beast it >> used a toner that was suspended in a liquid. > > Not that anyone seems to collect printers, but the LBP1 and

Re: Sun3 valuations?

2018-01-22 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 01/22/2018 11:24 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: Before that, if you were lucky enough to be at Stanford, MIT, or CMU, you could use the Dover and Altos that were part of Xerox's University Grant Program. Copies of well-known papers from the early 80s are very distinctive because they were

question on hp9000/310

2018-01-22 Thread W2HX via cctalk
Hello friends, I am totally ignorant about hp9000 machines. I am considering acquiring this machine for fun and learning about the 9000. It has a 9153A and 9134D with other accessories. The system currently boots up to BASIC 4.0 I have read that this machine can also support HP/UX. Can anyone

Re: Sun3 valuations?

2018-01-22 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 1/22/18 10:08 AM, Pete Lancashire wrote: > BTW I had at home a LBP1 ? that came from the R Labs. Quite the beast it > used a toner that was suspended in a liquid. Not that anyone seems to collect printers, but the LBP1 and the Canon engine were some of the first 'inexpensive

Re: Sun3 valuations?

2018-01-22 Thread Pete Lancashire via cctalk
Imagen .. yes. The printer we had was a Cannon engine, the same one HP used. All our work was for 8-1/2"x11" and its 300DPI was good enough for our use. LBP8 ? BTW I had at home a LBP1 ? that came from the R Labs. Quite the beast it used a toner that was suspended in a liquid. Can one say

Re: Sun3 valuations?

2018-01-22 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 1/22/18 9:57 AM, Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote: > Wasn't the internal controller the early Sun processor board (basically a > 68000 single-board computer that preceded or was used in the Sun 1), or am I > conflating things? (We had a Sun 1 quite early as well). > Imagen founded by

Re: Sun3 valuations?

2018-01-22 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2018-Jan-22, at 1:24 AM, Pete Lancashire via cctalk wrote: > My interest would be from having the first Sun systems in the Portland > Oregon area. It consisted of a 3/260 w a Fujitsu Eagle, and a 90 ips 9 > track that I cant remember the make. > Tied to it where 3 3/50s. Initially diskless then

Re: Sun3 valuations?

2018-01-22 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2018-Jan-22, at 1:24 AM, Pete Lancashire via cctalk wrote: > My interest would be from having the first Sun systems in the Portland > Oregon area. It consisted of a 3/260 w a Fujitsu Eagle, and a 90 ips 9 > track that I cant remember the make. > Tied to it where 3 3/50s. Initially diskless then

Re: Sun3 valuations?

2018-01-22 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 1/21/18 8:53 PM, Kevin Bowling via cctalk wrote: > Several people asked my location.. Phoenix, AZ. Freighting stuff is > neither hard nor expensive if it comes to that but I'm just trying to > gauge value at the moment. > I have a 3/x80 full server rack with 1/2 tape, no disks, and dozens

Re: Apollo Software

2018-01-22 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
sure thing. we got boxed of tapes and about 100 esdi disks from the support development cluster I haven't had time to do anything with also, i have lots of the last couple of revs of manuals up on bitsavers and there is a functional Apollo emulator running in MAME On 1/21/18 7:16 PM, Jay

Re: Microvax II 'primer'?

2018-01-22 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 01/22/2018 07:43 AM, Jules Richardson via cctalk wrote: On 01/21/2018 04:04 PM, Rob Jarratt wrote: You might find that the filter capacitor goes up in smoke soon after you connect the PSU to the mains, even without powering it on. Yes, Adrian Graham mentioned that (via FB), too. I seem to

Re: Apollo Software

2018-01-22 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Paul Koning > I[t] just dawned on me that the subject is Apollo the company bought by > HP, not Apollo the spacecraft. Oh well... Actually, that stuff has all been saved, and run under simulators; there's a very comprehensive site here:

3420 tape drive

2018-01-22 Thread Pmungai Njau via cctalk
Hey. Am looking for the above tape to read and covert some old tapes from ebcidic to ASCII format. How can I get the tapes in Kenya. Regards Paul Njau

What's this machine?

2018-01-22 Thread Anders Nelson via cctalk
Bouncing from the vintage microcontrollers Facebook page: https://m.facebook.com/groups/1233645553343772?view=permalink=1867447333296921 Can anyone help identify this machine?: https://twitter.com/StarringTheComp/status/955244079163564032 =] -- Anders Nelson +1 (517) 775-6129

Re: Google, Wikipedia directly on ASCII terminal?

2018-01-22 Thread Anders Nelson via cctalk
Martin's question is not nonsensical, and I imagine he understands the applicable networking concepts. His goal is to replicate the original dialup user experience and add a useful modern component - it's hard to justify keeping large machinery around if it's only there to look at. By adding the

Re: Microvax II 'primer'?

2018-01-22 Thread Adrian Graham via cctalk
>At this stage I've got no idea if it's a SMPSU or a linear (I've not popped the panel off)... I suppose if it's linear then it perhaps doesn't even need a load to do its thing. If it's a switcher then I expect it'll at least need something on +5V, and maybe +12V too (unless it has built-in load

Re: Microvax II 'primer'?

2018-01-22 Thread Jules Richardson via cctalk
On 01/21/2018 04:04 PM, Rob Jarratt wrote: You might find that the filter capacitor goes up in smoke soon after you connect the PSU to the mains, even without powering it on. Yes, Adrian Graham mentioned that (via FB), too. I seem to have extremely good luck with the RF filter caps, unlike

Re: Sun3 valuations?

2018-01-22 Thread Pete Lancashire via cctalk
My interest would be from having the first Sun systems in the Portland Oregon area. It consisted of a 3/260 w a Fujitsu Eagle, and a 90 ips 9 track that I cant remember the make. Tied to it where 3 3/50s. Initially diskless then I added a 40 MB drive to each of them. Networked into the companies

Re: Google, Wikipedia directly on ASCII terminal?

2018-01-22 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 16 January 2018 at 09:19, Martin Meiner via cctech wrote: > > It has always been my aim to be able toconnect a modem or an acoustic coupler > directly to one of my ASCII terminals,dial a number and be connected…with > Google! > > Something like Google-interface but

Re: GT-40 etc.

2018-01-22 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 1:04 PM, Paul Koning wrote: >> On Jan 20, 2018, at 11:06 PM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 8:32 PM, Paul Anderson wrote: >>> I think just the VR12, VR14, and the VR17. >>