Re: Bendix G-15 [was: Re: VCF PNW 2018: Pictures!]

2018-02-18 Thread Evan Koblentz via cctalk
the one at MARCH on loan. there are supposed to be more in DC That's what I alluded to in my reply, just didn't give the location... yes the owner has a few more. Anyone who is a serious buyer () can contact me privately and I will put you in contact with the seller. But yes, the one a

Re: Control Data 841 disk drive's 3-phase power supply resurrection

2018-02-18 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 02/18/2018 04:55 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > > On 2/18/18 4:07 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > >> Generally, the electromechanical stuff (motors) was run from 208V >> 3-phase and often, the electronics from 400Hz. >> >> At least that's what I recall. >> >> --Chuck >> > > that isn

Re: Bendix G-15 [was: Re: VCF PNW 2018: Pictures!]

2018-02-18 Thread Cory Heisterkamp via cctalk
On Feb 18, 2018, at 1:53 PM, Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote: > > Paul Pierce has a G-15: > http://www.piercefuller.com/collect/bendix/index.html > > Or he did, ca 2001. > > I would so like to be restoring a tube computer. > > How is Cory's LGP-30 project going, if he's reading?

Re: VCF PNW 2018: Pictures!

2018-02-18 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
> On Feb 18, 2018, at 3:29 PM, Angelo Papenhoff via cctalk > wrote: > > On 17/02/18, Michael Brutman via cctalk wrote: >> For your viewing pleasure ... >> >> https://photos.app.goo.gl/QPfZ4WXPdIdUo5gn2 > > Thanks! > > I'm a bit late to the party but I just added a bunch of photos to it. > I

Re: VCF PNW 2018: Pictures!

2018-02-18 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
I’m typing this on a Late-2010 Mac Pro. That was exactly what I thought when I saw that photo. I really hope the next model is worth owning, as I’ve seen zero reason to upgrade to a Trashcan. Zane > On Feb 18, 2018, at 3:16 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk > wrote: > > would have been funnier i

Re: Control Data 841 disk drive's 3-phase power supply resurrection

2018-02-18 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 2/18/18 4:07 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > Generally, the electromechanical stuff (motors) was run from 208V > 3-phase and often, the electronics from 400Hz. > > At least that's what I recall. > > --Chuck > that isn't what the schematic looks like. there is a low voltage transformer

Re: Control Data 841 disk drive's 3-phase power supply resurrection

2018-02-18 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 02/18/2018 03:14 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > > On 2/18/18 9:34 AM, P Gebhardt via cctalk wrote: > >> As far as I know, some computer installations used 400Hz 3-phase >> back in the days. Does anybody know, if that is the case for this >> type of drive systems? > > Looking at the manu

Re: VCF PNW 2018: Pictures!

2018-02-18 Thread Steve Malikoff via cctalk
Gene said > Here's another pile of photos. These are mostly of the basement and 3rd > floor storage areas. > > https://imgur.com/a/ti86K > > g. So it's true. The Mod 40 really was damaged and the console lever tips misplaced during their acquisition of it. I had had it on my bucket list to see i

Re: Re: VCF PNW 2018: Pictures!

2018-02-18 Thread Ed Sharpe via cctalk
although we have phillips  broadcast  gear! Love our  LDK-20 camera and camera chains!   Ed#  www.smecc.org      In a message dated 2/18/2018 4:38:22 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:   not allot of phillips stuff in north amarica is there? On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 5:2

Re: VCF PNW 2018: Pictures!

2018-02-18 Thread Adrian Stoness via cctalk
not allot of phillips stuff in north amarica is there? On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 5:29 PM, Angelo Papenhoff via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 17/02/18, Michael Brutman via cctalk wrote: > > For your viewing pleasure ... > > > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/QPfZ4WXPdIdUo5gn2 > > Thanks! >

Re: VCF PNW 2018: Pictures!

2018-02-18 Thread Angelo Papenhoff via cctalk
On 17/02/18, Michael Brutman via cctalk wrote: > For your viewing pleasure ... > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/QPfZ4WXPdIdUo5gn2 Thanks! I'm a bit late to the party but I just added a bunch of photos to it. I had to contain myself not to add all the PDP-5,6,7,10 photos :) All of my photos from VC

Re: VCF PNW 2018: Pictures!

2018-02-18 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
would have been funnier if it said Mac Pro https://www.apple.com/mac-pro/ On 2/18/18 3:14 PM, alan--- via cctalk wrote: > > Who's exhibit was this?  And did it win best in show? > > https://www.atlhcs.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/0211181006-e1518571107250-768x1024.jpg

Re: Control Data 841 disk drive's 3-phase power supply resurrection

2018-02-18 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 2/18/18 9:34 AM, P Gebhardt via cctalk wrote: > As far as I know, some computer installations used 400Hz 3-phase back in the > days. Does anybody know, if that is the case for this type of drive systems? Looking at the manuals, it is 3-phase 50Hz, with the phases split between different pa

Re: VCF PNW 2018: Pictures!

2018-02-18 Thread alan--- via cctalk
Who's exhibit was this? And did it win best in show? https://www.atlhcs.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/0211181006-e1518571107250-768x1024.jpg -Alan On 2018-02-17 21:55, Michael Brutman via cctalk wrote: For your viewing pleasure ... https://photos.app.goo.gl/QPfZ4WXPdIdUo5gn2 -Mike

Re: Control Data 841 disk drive's 3-phase power supply resurrection

2018-02-18 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
I've also uploaded manuals for the BM1A5 and 9461, which may also be of help. The BM1A5 looks similar to the BM101, and I had all three manuals for it scanned. The 841 looks very similar to the IBM 2314, down to putting multiple Drives in a rack you had to slide out to swap packs. On 2/18/18 12

Re: Bendix G-15 [was: Re: VCF PNW 2018: Pictures!]

2018-02-18 Thread Evan Koblentz via cctalk
Wow, even a Bendix G-15 in there (although with Control Data logo). Nope, look again, there are two :-) Actually they have three. The last time I checked, the remaining inventory was: - Smithsonian (S/N 1) - CHM (on static display) - these 2 - the one at MARCH - a University in A

Re: VCF PNW 2018: Pictures!

2018-02-18 Thread geneb via cctalk
Here's another pile of photos. These are mostly of the basement and 3rd floor storage areas. https://imgur.com/a/ti86K g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things f

Re: Bendix G-15 [was: Re: VCF PNW 2018: Pictures!]

2018-02-18 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
the 7094 and 650 On 2/18/18 12:20 PM, Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote: > On 2018-Feb-18, at 11:57 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: >> On 2/18/18 11:53 AM, Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote: >> >>> Paul Pierce has a G-15: >>> http://www.piercefuller.com/collect/bendix/index.html >>> >>> Or h

Re: VCF PNW 2018: Pictures!

2018-02-18 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
What an amazing selection of hardware and software (people). "wetware"

Re: VCF PNW 2018: Pictures!

2018-02-18 Thread Pontus Pihlgren via cctalk
*gasp* Is that a PDP-6 front panel. I assume it's the one from wireless hill that found it's way there. /P On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 06:55:09PM -0800, Michael Brutman via cctalk wrote: > For your viewing pleasure ... > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/QPfZ4WXPdIdUo5gn2 > > > -Mike

Re: Bendix G-15 [was: Re: VCF PNW 2018: Pictures!]

2018-02-18 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2018-Feb-18, at 11:57 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > On 2/18/18 11:53 AM, Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote: > >> Paul Pierce has a G-15: >> http://www.piercefuller.com/collect/bendix/index.html >> >> Or he did, ca 2001. > > Paul donated it to CHM > > http://www.computerhistory.

Re: Control Data 841 disk drive's 3-phase power supply resurrection

2018-02-18 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 2/18/18 11:24 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > I've got 41249000 > > ./___UNSORTED/41249000J_BM101_Theory_jun72.tar > > http://bitsavers.org/pdf/cdc/discs/BM101/41249000J_BM101_Multiple_Disk_Drive_Theory_Jun72.pdf

Re: Bendix G-15 [was: Re: VCF PNW 2018: Pictures!]

2018-02-18 Thread Mark Linimon via cctalk
On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 11:55:04AM -0800, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote: > Small correction: there are three -- two upstairs, one in the basement (with > CDC badging) :) Well, get to work guys, I'd like to be able to sit at the IBM typewriter one more time, just for old time's sake :-) May I ask w

Re: Bendix G-15 [was: Re: VCF PNW 2018: Pictures!]

2018-02-18 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
I will just leave this link right here... https://www.youtube.com/user/uniservo Thanks... -- Will On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 2:30 PM, Mark Linimon via cctalk wrote: > On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 01:04:38PM -0600, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: >> Wow, even a Bendix G-15 in there (although with Control D

Re: Bendix G-15 [was: Re: VCF PNW 2018: Pictures!]

2018-02-18 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 2/18/18 11:53 AM, Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote: > Paul Pierce has a G-15: > http://www.piercefuller.com/collect/bendix/index.html > > Or he did, ca 2001. Paul donated it to CHM http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/102728118

Re: Bendix G-15 [was: Re: VCF PNW 2018: Pictures!]

2018-02-18 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
On 2/18/2018 11:30 AM, Mark Linimon via cctalk wrote: On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 01:04:38PM -0600, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: Wow, even a Bendix G-15 in there (although with Control Data logo). Nope, look again, there are two :-) Small correction: there are three -- two upstairs, one in the ba

Re: Bendix G-15 [was: Re: VCF PNW 2018: Pictures!]

2018-02-18 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2018-Feb-18, at 11:30 AM, Mark Linimon via cctalk wrote: > On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 01:04:38PM -0600, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: >> Wow, even a Bendix G-15 in there (although with Control Data logo). > > Nope, look again, there are two :-) > >> Talk about a restoration project!!! > > AFAIK th

Re: Bendix G-15 [was: Re: VCF PNW 2018: Pictures!]

2018-02-18 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 2/18/18 11:30 AM, Mark Linimon via cctalk wrote: > My G-15 website is pretty stale but here it is: > > http://www.obscurecomputers.org/g15/index.html and as far as I know, Paul Pierce still has the CDC users group paper tapes it didn't come with his G-15 afaik

Re: Bendix G-15 [was: Re: VCF PNW 2018: Pictures!]

2018-02-18 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 2/18/18 11:30 AM, Mark Linimon via cctalk wrote: > - the one at MARCH on loan. there are supposed to be more in DC

Re: VCF PNW 2018: Pictures!

2018-02-18 Thread Mark Wickens via cctalk
What an amazing selection of hardware and software (people). Thank you for sharing your photos. Mark. On 18 February 2018 at 19:04, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > On 02/18/2018 04:17 AM, Adrian Graham via cctalk wrote: > >> On 18 Feb 2018, at 02:55, Michael Brutman via cctalk < >>> cctalk@classi

Bendix G-15 [was: Re: VCF PNW 2018: Pictures!]

2018-02-18 Thread Mark Linimon via cctalk
On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 01:04:38PM -0600, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > Wow, even a Bendix G-15 in there (although with Control Data logo). Nope, look again, there are two :-) > Talk about a restoration project!!! AFAIK these are the only ones being restored. The last time I checked, the remain

Re: Control Data 841 disk drive's 3-phase power supply resurrection

2018-02-18 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 2/18/18 9:34 AM, P Gebhardt via cctalk wrote: > Hello list, > > currently, I am in the process of trying to bring back to life a disk drive > installation from Control Data known as "841 Multiple Disk Drive" ( MDD ). "BM101" shown in the pictures is what you should be looking for 90310500_

Re: Control Data 841 disk drive's 3-phase power supply resurrection

2018-02-18 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 02/18/2018 11:34 AM, P Gebhardt via cctalk wrote: Hello list, currently, I am in the process of trying to bring back to life a disk drive installation from Control Data known as "841 Multiple Disk Drive" ( MDD ). From the early '70s. It uses hydraulic disk head actuators! Pictures of the su

Re: VCF PNW 2018: Pictures!

2018-02-18 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 02/18/2018 04:17 AM, Adrian Graham via cctalk wrote: On 18 Feb 2018, at 02:55, Michael Brutman via cctalk wrote: For your viewing pleasure ... https://photos.app.goo.gl/QPfZ4WXPdIdUo5gn2 -Mike A happy hour spent going through those, what a place! Thanks for posting. Wow, even a Bendix

Re: Control Data 841 disk drive's 3-phase power supply resurrection

2018-02-18 Thread P Gebhardt via cctalk
>The claim about the "only CDC disk drive with hydraulic positioner"  is >false.  Starting with the Bryant 6603, I believe that the 808 and very >rare 821 also used hydraulics.  Voice-coil positioners started to be >used with the 844 drives.  I don't recall what the 854 used, as it >wasn't very com

Re: Control Data 841 disk drive's 3-phase power supply resurrection

2018-02-18 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 02/18/2018 09:34 AM, P Gebhardt via cctalk wrote: > Hello list, > > currently, I am in the process of trying to bring back to life a disk drive > installation from Control Data known as "841 Multiple Disk Drive" ( MDD ). > From the early '70s. It uses hydraulic disk head actuators! Pictures o

Re: Control Data 841 disk drive's 3-phase power supply resurrection

2018-02-18 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Feb 18, 2018, at 12:34 PM, P Gebhardt via cctalk > wrote: > > Hello list, > > currently, I am in the process of trying to bring back to life a disk drive > installation from Control Data known as "841 Multiple Disk Drive" ( MDD ). > From the early '70s. It uses hydraulic disk head actu

Control Data 841 disk drive's 3-phase power supply resurrection

2018-02-18 Thread P Gebhardt via cctalk
Hello list, currently, I am in the process of trying to bring back to life a disk drive installation from Control Data known as "841 Multiple Disk Drive" ( MDD ). From the early '70s. It uses hydraulic disk head actuators! Pictures of the subsystem are here: http://www.digitalheritage.de/perip

Re: LMI Lambda Lispmachine Keyboard aka Space Cadet Keyboad

2018-02-18 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 2/17/18 9:45 PM, Chris Hanson via cctalk wrote: > Really though, you should find someone with an LMI Lambda to give the > keyboard to. It belongs with its mate. CHM has two Lambdas, but no keyboards or monitors. http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/102668040 http://www.compute

Re: LMI Lambda Lispmachine Keyboard aka Space Cadet Keyboad

2018-02-18 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt via cctalk
Really though, you should find someone with an LMI Lambda to give the keyboard to. It belongs with its mate. Indeed! And if you do find a Lambda, then there would be quite a few people interested in learning more gnarly details about the architecture.

Re: VCF PNW 2018: Pictures!

2018-02-18 Thread Adrian Graham via cctalk
> On 18 Feb 2018, at 02:55, Michael Brutman via cctalk > wrote: > > For your viewing pleasure ... > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/QPfZ4WXPdIdUo5gn2 > > > -Mike A happy hour spent going through those, what a place! Thanks for posting. — Adrian/Witchy Binary Dinosaurs - Celebrating Computing H

Re: VCF PNW 2018: Pictures!

2018-02-18 Thread Evan Koblentz via cctalk
It was really cool of them to let use look through the storage rooms. A lot of really cool artifacts. I don't know how I missed it while wondering around but in the pictures, there as a Micral. Kevin Savetz and I saw it. It's amazing that LCML owns multiple mind-blowing big iron from Cray, DE

PDP-8 name plate artwork

2018-02-18 Thread Marc Howard via cctalk
The VCF picture album just posted has a shot of a PDP-8e system that looks like mine. Except that all 3 of my rack toppers are southwestern red/orange with no logo as opposed to the one on the right with the DEC, PDP-8e printing. Does anyone have a scan/stencil/etc. of that panel available? Than

Re: LMI Lambda Lispmachine Keyboard aka Space Cadet Keyboad

2018-02-18 Thread Mike Barnes via cctalk
Marc, Probably the best bet for an LMI Lambda emulator is Daniel Seagrave's LD GitHub project. See: https://github.com/dseagrav/ld It has directions on where to get the LMI code (bitsavers) and how to set up the emulator. I use it quite a bit and it works quite well. Of course, it has mappings