Re: Logic Analyzer software for the HP-IB/RS-232 bus pre-processor HP 10342B

2018-05-30 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 7:09 PM, Marc Howard via cctalk wrote: > Was there ever an I2C decoder created for the 16500/16700? > > Marc The older analyzers were never that great for serial protocol decoding. The solution used with the HP 10342B RS-232 preprocessor interface was to throw hardware at

Re: old DEC stuff

2018-05-30 Thread Ed Sharpe via cctalk
I had a fist model nova... sold eons ago.. tracked it bacl5... darned if the fellow kept boards to Save space and scrapped thec rest of it ... how sad Ed# Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Wednesday, May 30, 2018 Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > From: Dominique Carlier > I just regret this

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2018-05-30 Thread Ed Sharpe via cctalk
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Osborne available

2018-05-30 Thread Evan Koblentz via cctalk
I received an email from plebourge...@me.com who said he's in Mandeville, Lousiana and has an Osborne available with accessories/manauls to a good home for the cost of shipping. He said he'll throw it away if he does not find a home for it soon. That's all I know, do not reply to me or this

Re: Logic Analyzer software for the HP-IB/RS-232 bus pre-processor HP 10342B

2018-05-30 Thread Marc Howard via cctalk
Was there ever an I2C decoder created for the 16500/16700? Marc On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 7:07 PM, Curious Marc via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Wow. Impressive reverse engineering work. Congrats! > Marc > > > On May 26, 2018, at 5:09 PM, Glen Slick via cctalk < >

Re: Logic Analyzer software for the HP-IB/RS-232 bus pre-processor HP 10342B

2018-05-30 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 7:07 PM, Curious Marc wrote: > Wow. Impressive reverse engineering work. Congrats! > Marc > It wouldn't have been possible for me to do this without source code provided in the 16900-series logic analyzer Analysis AddIn Tool. The agIalEngine.cpp source file provided there

Re: Modifying microcode

2018-05-30 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 05/30/2018 11:48 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: On May 30, 2018, at 11:11 AM, Camiel Vanderhoeven via cctalk wrote: Depending on your definition of small, the MicroVAX 1, and the VAX 8000 series (not that small). In both cases though, the ROM chips are a custom DEC design. Didn't

Re: Logic Analyzer software for the HP-IB/RS-232 bus pre-processor HP 10342B

2018-05-30 Thread Curious Marc via cctalk
Wow. Impressive reverse engineering work. Congrats! Marc > On May 26, 2018, at 5:09 PM, Glen Slick via cctalk > wrote: > >> On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 7:43 PM, Marc Verdiell >> wrote: >> This has probably been asked before, but does anyone have the software >> package that came with the

RE: old DEC stuff

2018-05-30 Thread W2HX via cctalk
Dang! I was in Dayton/Xenia also this year and never knew that is where Mitch is located! I have spoken to him on the phone. Very nice guy and very willing to work with hobbyists. Next year I will make a point of meeting him in person and picking up some goodies 73 Eugene W2HX -Original

Re: old DEC stuff

2018-05-30 Thread Mark G Thomas via cctalk
Hi, On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 11:52:13AM -0500, Jay West via cctalk wrote: > Dominique wrote: > $75 for one toggle switch ? $9,999.00 for a rusty PDP8L ? > > hem ... No > - > Mitch Miller is a really good guy, and very "collector friendly". > He still sells to a lot of business

Re: old DEC stuff

2018-05-30 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 05/30/2018 02:38 PM, TeoZ wrote: > Or they now think everything that is worthless is worth massive > amounts of money. It won't take long to dispel that and storage space (warehouse, not memory) is expensive. bill > > -Original Message- From: Bill Gunshannon via cctalk > Sent:

Re: old DEC stuff

2018-05-30 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
> On May 30, 2018, at 9:52 AM, Jay West via cctalk > wrote: > > Dominique wrote: > $75 for one toggle switch ? $9,999.00 for a rusty PDP8L ? > > hem ... No > - > Mitch Miller is a really good guy, and very "collector friendly". > He still sells to a lot of business clients,

Re: old DEC stuff

2018-05-30 Thread TeoZ via cctalk
Or they now think everything that is worthless is worth massive amounts of money. -Original Message- From: Bill Gunshannon via cctalk Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 2:15 PM To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: Re: old DEC stuff On 05/30/2018 01:55 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:

Re: old DEC stuff

2018-05-30 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 05/30/2018 01:55 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > > From: Dominique Carlier > > > I just regret this incredible rise in prices for collector machines > > that, not so long ago, were languishing in wet sheds > > Hey, look at the bright side: as a result, they are much less

Re: old DEC stuff

2018-05-30 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Dominique Carlier > I just regret this incredible rise in prices for collector machines > that, not so long ago, were languishing in wet sheds Hey, look at the bright side: as a result, they are much less likely to be simply recycled as scrap. I took great pleasure in

Re: Modifying microcode

2018-05-30 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 4:11 PM, Camiel Vanderhoeven via cctalk wrote: >> Gotcha. Which small VAXes had external ROM/PALs for microcode store? >> > > > Depending on your definition of small, the MicroVAX 1, and the VAX 8000 series > (not that small). In both cases though, the ROM chips are a

Re: Modifying microcode

2018-05-30 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Henk Gooijen > My findings so far : > www.pdp-11.nl/pdp11-35/repair/repair35page.html > Comments are very welcome! I got a: You don't have permission to access to this document on this server. Apache Server at pdp-11.nl error message? > I vaguely remember

Re: old DEC stuff

2018-05-30 Thread Dominique Carlier via cctalk
On 30/05/2018 18:52, Jay West wrote: Dominique wrote: $75 for one toggle switch ? $9,999.00 for a rusty PDP8L ? hem ... No - Mitch Miller is a really good guy, and very "collector friendly". He still sells to a lot of business clients, and those are the prices he can get for

Re: Modifying microcode

2018-05-30 Thread Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk
> On May 30, 2018, at 6:51 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk > wrote: > >> From: Kyle Owen > >> I do have an 11/45, though... so with this modification, I suppose one >> could have some fun: > > That's for the -11/40 - very different machine, one couldn't use the same > technique on the /45; the

Re: Modifying microcode

2018-05-30 Thread Kyle Owen via cctalk
On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > On 05/30/2018 08:19 AM, Kyle Owen via cctalk wrote: > >> >> I'm thinking about trying to find a microcoded architecture to play with >> before I design something around the Intel 3000 series. >> > Intel 3000? WHY! > Well, the Tesla clones

Re: Modifying microcode

2018-05-30 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 05/30/2018 08:19 AM, Kyle Owen via cctalk wrote: Has anyone attempted to reassemble and update the microcode on a MicroVAX? Seems like there's enough stuff here to possibly do it: http://simh.trailing-edge.com/semi/ucode/ I'm thinking about trying to find a microcoded architecture to play

Re: old DEC stuff

2018-05-30 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 12:52 PM, Jay West via cctalk wrote: > Dominique wrote: > $75 for one toggle switch ? $9,999.00 for a rusty PDP8L ? > > hem ... No > - > Mitch Miller is a really good guy, and very "collector friendly". > He still sells to a lot of business clients, and

Re: Modifying microcode

2018-05-30 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 10:48 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Didn't the 780 get its microcode loaded by the console LSI-11? Only the small microcode patch store was loaded. Most of the 11/780 microcode was in bipolar PROMs. The later 11/785 had all of the microcode

RE: Modifying microcode

2018-05-30 Thread Henk Gooijen via cctalk
Van: Paul Koning via cctalk Verzonden: woensdag 30 mei 2018 18:49 Aan: Camiel Vanderhoeven; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Onderwerp: Re: Modifying microcode > On May 30,

RE: old DEC stuff

2018-05-30 Thread Jay West via cctalk
Dominique wrote: $75 for one toggle switch ? $9,999.00 for a rusty PDP8L ? hem ... No - Mitch Miller is a really good guy, and very "collector friendly". He still sells to a lot of business clients, and those are the prices he can get for those in that market. However, if you

Re: Modifying microcode

2018-05-30 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On May 30, 2018, at 11:11 AM, Camiel Vanderhoeven via cctalk > wrote: > > Depending on your definition of small, the MicroVAX 1, and the VAX 8000 > series (not that small). In both cases though, the ROM chips are a custom DEC > design. Didn't the 780 get its microcode loaded by the

Re: old DEC stuff

2018-05-30 Thread Dominique Carlier via cctalk
$75 for one toggle switch ? $9,999.00 for a rusty PDP8L ? hem ... No On 30/05/2018 17:32, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote: On 5/30/2018 10:23 AM, Electronics Plus via cctalk wrote: If they are still around, this guy had a lot of old DEC stuff. Not affiliated with seller, etc. Mitch

RE: Modifying microcode

2018-05-30 Thread Henk Gooijen via cctalk
Van: Noel Chiappa via cctalk Verzonden: woensdag 30 mei 2018 17:17 Aan: cctalk@classiccmp.org CC: j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu Onderwerp: Re: Modifying microcode > From: Kyle Owen > So the same

Re: Modifying microcode

2018-05-30 Thread Camiel Vanderhoeven via cctalk
On 5/30/18, 5:03 PM, "Kyle Owen" wrote: On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 9:34 AM, Camiel Vanderhoeven wrote: The microcode for the MicroVAX 2 (for which the MICRO2 assembler was used) and the CVAX (which is the CPU in your 3800) is implemented as a mask ROM on the CPU chip itself. No way to

Re: old DEC stuff

2018-05-30 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
On 5/30/2018 10:23 AM, Electronics Plus via cctalk wrote: If they are still around, this guy had a lot of old DEC stuff. Not affiliated with seller, etc. Mitch Miller | Phone (937) 847-2300 / Fax (937) 847-2350 (Old area code was 513) | | Keyways, Inc. | 204 S. Third St. |

old DEC stuff

2018-05-30 Thread Electronics Plus via cctalk
If they are still around, this guy had a lot of old DEC stuff. Not affiliated with seller, etc. Mitch Miller | Phone (937) 847-2300 / Fax (937) 847-2350 (Old area code was 513) | | Keyways, Inc. | 204 S. Third St. | Miamisburg, Ohio 45342 USA | | E-mail: mil...@keyways.com | Web:

Re: Modifying microcode

2018-05-30 Thread Kyle Owen via cctalk
On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 9:34 AM, Camiel Vanderhoeven < camiel.vanderhoe...@vmssoftware.com> wrote: > The microcode for the MicroVAX 2 (for which the MICRO2 assembler was used) > and the CVAX (which is the CPU in your 3800) is implemented as a mask ROM > on the CPU chip itself. No way to change

Re: Modifying microcode

2018-05-30 Thread Kyle Owen via cctalk
On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 8:51 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > From: Kyle Owen > > > I do have an 11/45, though... so with this modification, I suppose > one > > could have some fun: > > That's for the -11/40 - very different machine, one couldn't use the

Re: Modifying microcode

2018-05-30 Thread Camiel Vanderhoeven via cctalk
The microcode for the MicroVAX 2 (for which the MICRO2 assembler was used) and the CVAX (which is the CPU in your 3800) is implemented as a mask ROM on the CPU chip itself. No way to change it, and no way you can use MICRO2 to assemble the microcode for the CVAX. On 5/30/18, 3:19 PM, "cctalk

Re: DEC RSX-11D and its COBOL compiler?

2018-05-30 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 05/30/2018 10:33 AM, John Forecast via cctalk wrote: >> On May 29, 2018, at 1:04 PM, Paul Koning wrote: >> >> >> >>> On May 29, 2018, at 10:30 AM, John Forecast via cctalk >>> wrote: >>> >>> On May 29, 2018, at 3:30 AM, Nigel Williams via cctalk wrote: On Tue, May 29,

Re: DEC RSX-11D and its COBOL compiler?

2018-05-30 Thread John Forecast via cctalk
> On May 29, 2018, at 1:04 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > > > >> On May 29, 2018, at 10:30 AM, John Forecast via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> >>> On May 29, 2018, at 3:30 AM, Nigel Williams via cctalk >>> wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 1:27 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk >>> wrote: I have

Intel 386 chips, new in trays

2018-05-30 Thread Electronics Plus via cctalk
Not affiliated with seller, etc. Intel 386 CPU. Remember when we bought them and thought they were so fast! Well..maybe someone has that obscure application that needs them. 500pcs QU80386EX25 NEW UNUSED IN TRAYS Regards, Ron Sanders RBD Electronics, Inc. 63 Flansburg

Re: Modifying microcode

2018-05-30 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Kyle Owen > I do have an 11/45, though... so with this modification, I suppose one > could have some fun: That's for the -11/40 - very different machine, one couldn't use the same technique on the /45; the /40 is prepared to accept additional ucode on additional CPU boards,

Modifying microcode

2018-05-30 Thread Kyle Owen via cctalk
Has anyone attempted to reassemble and update the microcode on a MicroVAX? Seems like there's enough stuff here to possibly do it: http://simh.trailing-edge.com/semi/ucode/ I'm thinking about trying to find a microcoded architecture to play with before I design something around the Intel 3000

Re: Looking for a VT52 keycap

2018-05-30 Thread Paul Anderson via cctalk
Hi Seth, It it the 6 from the main keyboard or the numeric keypad? I should have one around here I can send you but it might take a while to find. Thanks, Paul On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 1:24 PM, Seth Morabito via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Hello folks, > > This weekend I picked up

RE: DEC RSX-11D and its COBOL compiler?

2018-05-30 Thread Rich Alderson via cctalk
From: Paul Koning Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 6:47 AM > I once saw an RSX-15 kernel listing, which had a lot of very familiar > looking data structures -- it implied that RSX-11/D had its origins, > at least as far as overall design is concerned, in RSX-15. RSX-15 was the predecessor of

Looking for a VT52 keycap

2018-05-30 Thread Seth Morabito via cctalk
Hello folks, This weekend I picked up a VT52 DECscope terminal from a fellow collector. It's in fantastic shape, apart from being a little dirty and missing the number "6" keycap from the number pad. This is a real long shot, but if you have a permanently broken VT52 terminal you're keeping