Re: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?

[Alan Perry via cctalk]

On 12/3/18 5:00 PM, Michael Thompson via cctech wrote:

Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2018 16:49:37 -0800
From: Alan Perry 
Subject: Re: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with
 battery?

The RDI Britelite (laptop) is a SPARCstation IPX system board in a
laptop chassis.


I have IPC, IPX, and LX versions of the RDI Britelite.


I was referring to the one in the photos, which is a Britelite IPX, 
explaining why it is in an exhibit of Sun lunchbox systems.

Re: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?

[Michael Thompson via cctalk]

>
> Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2018 16:49:37 -0800
> From: Alan Perry 
> Subject: Re: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with
> battery?
>
> The RDI Britelite (laptop) is a SPARCstation IPX system board in a
> laptop chassis.
>

I have IPC, IPX, and LX versions of the RDI Britelite.

-- 
Michael Thompson

N8vem and z80sbc

[trtech thetrtech.com via cctalk]

Looking for software especially rom code for both of these SBC boards.

p112

[Joe Smith via cctalk]

Are there any boards available or rom monitor updates?

Re: N8vem and z80sbc

[allison via cctalk]

On 12/03/2018 03:34 PM, trtech thetrtech.com via cctech wrote:
> Looking for software especially rom code for both of these SBC boards.
Does google or other search engine work where you are...

First hit was:   http://obsolescence.wixsite.com/obsolescence/the-n8vem-sbc

Allison

Re: Operation Codes

[Don Stalkowski via cctalk]

In the early 1970s I remember seeing similer things for the PDP-10 and PDP-15.

On Mon Dec  3 07:02:18 2018 cct...@classiccmp.org (Paul Birkel via cctech) 
wrote:
> 
> https://www.asc.ohio-state.edu/dunlap.3/humor/instruction.set.html
> 
>  
> 
> ERS Erase Read-only Storage
> 
> FPT  Fire Photon Torpedoes
> 
> GCAR   Get Correct Answer Regardless
> 
> XIO   Execute Invalid Op code
> 
>  
> 
> Among others!
> 
>  
> 
> -
> 
> 

Re: Operation Codes

[Charles Anthony via cctalk]

On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 4:02 AM Paul Birkel via cctech 
wrote:

> https://www.asc.ohio-state.edu/dunlap.3/humor/instruction.set.html
>
>
> Among others!
>
>
>  SHON Simulate HONeywell CPU [permanent NO-OP]

I am guessing that this is a reference to the Honeywell 6000/DPS8 NOP
instruction which (curiously) can alter memory, page fault, tally runout
fault (IIRC) and loop infinitely (actually till the 16 millisecond
instruction timer causes a timeout fault).

-- Charles

--
X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett

Re: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?

[Alan Perry via cctalk]

A company called RDI made the Britelite and Powerlite laptops. They 
eventually merged with Tadpole, which made its own SPARC laptops 
(SPARCbooks). As someone else mentioned, there were different Britelite 
models based on the various Sun lunchbox system boards. When I had my 
Britelite IPX on display on VCF, someone told me that they recognized 
the case as something used in another laptop.


Sun never made their own laptop, but they made a portable called the 
SPARCstation Voyager.


On 12/3/18 7:33 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
Very Nice collection! Yes  have to love that  laptop. Did not know  
SUN made one. or  I  guess a third  party  put the  Sun  goodies in a 
case of their  design?  either way   NEAT!



Seeing   a  nice  run of  systems like this in wonderful condition  
is  great!



Ed#

In a message dated 12/2/2018 5:49:49 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:


I will have to get back with you on the audio. It is on offline backup
media and I need to find it.

Here is a link to some photos of the exhibit -
https://photos.app.goo.gl/7qC8UbEYCeCf9CBo7

The RDI Britelite (laptop) is a SPARCstation IPX system board in a
laptop chassis. It was in the Day 1 exhibit, but not the Day 2 exhibit
because the power adapter died on the morning of the second day.

One of the photos is an opened-up SPARCstation LX, which is very similar
on the inside to your IPC.

My exhibit next year will be on early 90s SPARC clones.

alan

On 12/2/18 1:43 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
> Alan...   would   love  a  copy  of  the  audio  for  our archives  
here.

>
>
> Would  like to  see pix  of  your  display too  sounds neat!
>
> Any  other   files  text  or  otherwise  welcome  also  to  this  
address   or  drop  us a   dropbox  link

>
> The  Sun  workstations  I  never  knew too much  about as at the 
time   did not  seems  like  old  history  nor  did  we use any  so 
playing catchup!

>
> Thanks in  advance...
>
> Ed#
>
>
>
> In a message dated 12/2/2018 12:44:32 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
cctalk@classiccmp.org  writes:

>
>
>
> There is only room for drives in the top half of the chassis.  The PSU
> and an assembly that holds the drives fills the top half. A 3.5"
> half-height drive fits in one side of the assembly and a 3.5" floppy
> drive fits in the other. The PSU cables go from the rear to the front of
> that side of the chassis, below the FDD (when the chassis is closed).
>
> I did an exhibit on Sun lunchbox systems, including the IPC (4/40), for
> PNW VCF earlier this year. I looked for press kits, posters, etc. to use
> in the exhibit, but could only find text files. I know people who worked
> at Sun on the development of those early SPARCstations and none of them
> had any of that kind of material.
>
> I had an audio cassette "Introducing the IPC" for Sun sales. I donated
> it to CHM this year (but I ripped the audio before I sent it to them).
>
> alan
>
> On 12/2/18 10:13 AM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
>> Thanks  for the  info  to  get it  open!  when  back at the  
office   shall   do that..   there  may  be  drives in 2 places -  on 
board and  the off board  one. Always interesting to  explore  
something   one  has  only  read  about!

>>
>>
>>
>> Along the   same  line  of  UNIX   stuff   we  have a COBALT   1U 
Pretty  blue  sever and a  COBALT  CUBE.  I  do remember   lusting  
after  one of these   1U  COBALT  servers when they  were  current 
didn't  have anything in  the  budget back then  though  for  one.  I  
have  been  told  SUN eventually ended up  owning COBALT.

>>
>> As  will all that   we    have  we  are  looking  for any  ad 
slicks   press kits    posters,  wild artwork   for the  Sun $/40,    
and the  2  COBALT  machines..

>>
>> Ed Sharpe archivist  for SMECC www.smecc.org 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:15:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
ape...@snowmoose.com  writes:

>>
>>
>> Yes. It is next to floppy in the upper half of the chassis. There 
is a 50-pin (IDC connectors) ribbon cable that goes down to system 
board at the bottom of the lower half of the chassis. The chassis 
splits in the vertical middle in a, if looking at the chassis, fairly 
obvious place. Because of the cables that run from the top to bottom, 
it effectively hinges at the front of the chassis. There a couple 
buttons on the side to release and sometimes a security cable bit to 
remove (phillips screw).

>>
>> On 12/1/18 7:08 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
>> Hi  Alan - The  hard drive is same  size cabinet with  I  guess 
a  SCSSI   cable.  I  will have  to  look  at it   further...   wonder 
if starting it  out on  a  variac  would  help the capacitors  like  
I  do  with the old radio sets  here in the museum  ed#

>>
>>
>> In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:04:03 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
>> ape...@snowmoose.com  writes:
>>
>> Well, as I said, in my experience, 

Re: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?

[ED SHARPE via cctalk]

Very Nice collection!    Yes  have to love that  laptop. Did not know  SUN made 
one. or  I  guess a third  party  put the  Sun  goodies in a case of their  
design?  either way   NEAT!


 
Seeing   a  nice  run  of  systems like this in wonderful condition  is  great!
 
 
Ed#
 
In a message dated 12/2/2018 5:49:49 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:

 
I will have to get back with you on the audio. It is on offline backup 

media and I need to find it.

Here is a link to some photos of the exhibit - 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/7qC8UbEYCeCf9CBo7

The RDI Britelite (laptop) is a SPARCstation IPX system board in a 
laptop chassis. It was in the Day 1 exhibit, but not the Day 2 exhibit 
because the power adapter died on the morning of the second day.

One of the photos is an opened-up SPARCstation LX, which is very similar 
on the inside to your IPC.

My exhibit next year will be on early 90s SPARC clones.

alan

On 12/2/18 1:43 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
> Alan...   would   love  a  copy  of  the  audio  for  our  archives  here.
>
>
> Would  like to  see pix  of  your  display too  sounds  neat!
> 
> Any  other   files  text  or  otherwise  welcome  also   to  this  address   
> or  drop  us a   dropbox  link
> 
> The  Sun  workstations  I  never  knew too much  about as  at the time   did 
> not  seems  like  old  history  nor  did  we  use any  so playing catchup!
> 
> Thanks in  advance...
> 
> Ed#
> 
> 
> 
> In a message dated 12/2/2018 12:44:32 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
> cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
>
> 
>
> There is only room for drives in the top half of the chassis.  The PSU
> and an assembly that holds the drives fills the top half. A 3.5"
> half-height drive fits in one side of the assembly and a 3.5" floppy
> drive fits in the other. The PSU cables go from the rear to the front of
> that side of the chassis, below the FDD (when the chassis is closed).
>
> I did an exhibit on Sun lunchbox systems, including the IPC (4/40), for
> PNW VCF earlier this year. I looked for press kits, posters, etc. to use
> in the exhibit, but could only find text files. I know people who worked
> at Sun on the development of those early SPARCstations and none of them
> had any of that kind of material.
>
> I had an audio cassette "Introducing the IPC" for Sun sales. I donated
> it to CHM this year (but I ripped the audio before I sent it to them).
>
> alan
>
> On 12/2/18 10:13 AM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
>> Thanks  for the  info  to  get it  open!  when  back at the  office   shall  
>>  do that..   there  may  be  drives in 2 places -  on board and  the off 
>> board  one. Always interesting to  explore  something   one  has  only  read 
>>  about!
>>
>>
>>
>> Along the   same  line  of  UNIX   stuff   we  have a  COBALT   1U Pretty  
>> blue  sever and a  COBALT  CUBE.  I  do remember   lusting  after  one of 
>> these   1U  COBALT  servers when they  were  current didn't  have anything 
>> in  the  budget  back then  though  for  one.  I  have  been  told  SUN  
>> eventually ended up  owning COBALT.
>>
>> As  will all that   we    have  we  are  looking  for  any  ad slicks   
>> press kits    posters,  wild artwork   for  the  Sun $/40,    and the  2  
>> COBALT  machines..
>>
>> Ed Sharpe archivist  for SMECC  www.smecc.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:15:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
>> ape...@snowmoose.com writes:
>>
>>
>> Yes. It is next to floppy in the upper half of the chassis. There is a 
>> 50-pin (IDC connectors) ribbon cable that goes down to system board at the 
>> bottom of the lower half of the chassis. The chassis splits in the vertical 
>> middle in a, if looking at the chassis, fairly obvious place. Because of the 
>> cables that run from the top to bottom, it effectively hinges at the front 
>> of the chassis. There a couple buttons on the side to release and sometimes 
>> a security cable bit to remove (phillips screw).
>>
>> On 12/1/18 7:08 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
>> Hi  Alan - The  hard drive is same  size cabinet    with  I  guess a  
>> SCSSI   cable.  I  will have  to  look  at  it   further...   wonder if 
>> starting it  out on  a  variac   would  help the capacitors  like  I  do  
>> with the old radio sets  here in the museum  ed#
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:04:03 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
>> ape...@snowmoose.com writes:
>>
>> Well, as I said, in my experience, the NVRAMs that you can buy new from 
>> Mouser work good enough. And the mod to the original battery isn't that hard 
>> to make.
>>
>> In my experience with IPCs, the bigger problem is the power supplies. If the 
>> PS on the IPC that you have now doesn't need to be re'capped now, it will 
>> need it soon. After that will likely be the HDD that needs work. Almost all 
>> of my HDDs that originally shipped with lunchbox systems up to the 424 meg 
>> (ST1480N) have died. The price for working 50-pin SCSI HDDs are at a point 
>> that SD2SCSI parts make 

Re: ISO: 68000/68010 CPU board for ZAX ICD-178 (CPU S-813)

[Carlo Pisani via cctalk]

where are you located? any pic of this?
which software does support this ICE
can you find a POD for the 68EC020?

let me know

Il giorno dom 2 dic 2018 alle ore 16:24 Al Kossow via cctalk
 ha scritto:
>
> I have literally dozens of non-Ethernet Applied Microsystems ES-1800 68000 
> ICEs
>
> Are you (or anyone else) interested in any?
>
>
> On 12/1/18 10:56 PM, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote:
> > Hi all --
> >
> > I picked up a ZAX ICD-178 in-circuit debugger in the hopes of using it to 
> > help debug / reverse-engineer a couple of
> > 68k-based machines I have.
>
>
>

Re: ISO: 68000/68010 CPU board for ZAX ICD-178 (CPU S-813)

[Josh Dersch via cctalk]

On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 4:48 PM Al Kossow via cctalk 
wrote:

>
>
> On 12/2/18 7:24 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
>
> > Are you (or anyone else) interested in any?
>
> they would be tested for $200 plus shipping with a 68000 pod
>
> I'll have to see how many other pods I have, I should also have 010 and 020
>

If you're able to find 010 pods, then I'm in.  Probably don't need the 020,
but I suppose it might prove useful someday...

Thanks!
Josh

Re: Data General Eclipse Info needed

[Christian Kennedy via cctalk]

On 12/2/18 8:36 PM, Jerry Wright via cctalk wrote:

> I'm trying to id this system I just rescued last month.  It is an Eclipse of 
> some type.

[snip]

> Not sure what sales model it is   ie  C330 or C130 or ???

Given that it was embedded in a CAT scanner it's likely a S series, not
a C series (scientific vs. commercial, the latter having the commercial
instruction set extensions to better support COBOL). Typically it would
be a S/130, but the 16 slot chassis might make it a S/230.  The legend
on the CPU1 board (the bottom-most in the chassis) may give you a hint;
CPU2 is the same for both the S/130 and S/230, so it's of no use it
trying to sort this out.

The options listed are for I/O controllers. Off the top of my head, 4010
is EIA teletype; 4042 is an oddball, it's the data channel logic
sub-option for the 4040 general purpose interface.  4192 doesn't
immediately ring a bell; I'll have to dig that up when I have a moment.

> The front panel is trashed, so what are the differences  between the front 
> panels fromother models.
> Are there any manuals for this out there ?? 

They're not terribly interchangeable across models.  Does the trashed
panel have LEDs or incandescent bulbs?  IIRC the S/130 was the only
model that used LEDs from the factory.


> The back plane has 2 damaged chips.  one has a  74S133 which i understand the 
> other has 20a. if I read it right.  looks to be a hex inverter of some type ??

Does it have a DG logo on it?  If so, BitSavers may have the component
guide (and if not, I have a copy around here somewhere).

Good luck!

Cheers,
Chris

-- 
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Re: Operation Codes

[Diane Bruce via cctalk]

On Mon, Dec 03, 2018 at 07:02:18AM -0500, Paul Birkel via cctech wrote:
> https://www.asc.ohio-state.edu/dunlap.3/humor/instruction.set.html
> 

HCF is listed there but the original instruction on the 6800
was thought to be included by the designers for hardware testing.

See:
http://www.liquisearch.com/halt_and_catch_fire/in_modern_cpus/motorola_6800

- Diane
-- 
- d...@freebsd.org d...@db.net http://artemis.db.net/~db

Operation Codes

[Paul Birkel via cctalk]

https://www.asc.ohio-state.edu/dunlap.3/humor/instruction.set.html

 

ERS Erase Read-only Storage

FPT  Fire Photon Torpedoes

GCAR   Get Correct Answer Regardless

XIO   Execute Invalid Op code

 

Among others!

 

-

Opening RL02 disk pack

[Christian Corti via cctalk]

Hi,
how does one open a RL02 disk pack? A couple of packs need cleaning but I 
can't figure out how to open them...


Christian