RE: sun 88780 on ebay

2019-01-29 Thread David Collins via cctalk
Al, I'm afraid I don’t... They were made in Greely Colorado but that plant has long since closed and I don’t have any contacts from there. -Original Message- From: cctech On Behalf Of Al Kossow via cctech Sent: Wednesday, 30 January 2019 3:55 AM To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: Re:

Re: OT Parts houses & scrappers

2019-01-29 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk
On 1/29/19 12:45 PM, Marvin Johnston via cctalk wrote: Many times I find free to be far to expensive for most people including myself (think postage/shipping/prep time.) Aside from stuff like museum donations, I have found giving things away for free is usually a pain. In my experience,

Re: early PDP-11/45 info sought

2019-01-29 Thread Fritz Mueller via cctalk
> The first batch of scanning is done... 600dpi, CCITT Group 4 except for > the cover pages which are LZW. > > You will find them in my Google Drive at > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2v4WRwISEQRWWFFdVpCZWFTZEU > > In subfolder pdf/dec/pdp11/1145 Thanks, Jay! I note with some

Re: early PDP-11/45 info sought

2019-01-29 Thread Fritz Mueller via cctalk
> On Jan 28, 2019, at 8:26 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk > wrote: > > E.g. my M8100 prints are dated 2/72, and none contain any entries in the > 'Revisions' block (lower left). However, they are marked as Rev. D, which is > newer than the KB11-A prints at Bitsaver, which are marked as Rev. C.

gcc-1.34 source?, was Re: old gcc #pragma handling

2019-01-29 Thread Steven M Jones via cctalk
On 01/29/2019 14:53, Christian Groessler via cctalk wrote: But I cannot find gcc 1.34. ftp.gnu.org has gcc-1.30.atari (where the sequence doesn't exist), and gcc-1.35 (where it's "#if 0"ed). Does anyone know where to find the source code of gcc 1.34? I'm not positive that this is "pure"

Re: early PDP-11/45 info sought

2019-01-29 Thread Jay Jaeger via cctalk
On 1/27/2019 9:07 PM, Jay Jaeger via cctech wrote: > > Let me know what you want me to scan - should be able to get to it later > this week. > > JRJ > > > On 1/27/2019 6:40 PM, Fritz Mueller via cctalk wrote: >> Those reading through the recent "PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem" thread here >>

Re: old gcc #pragma handling

2019-01-29 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
> Hi, > > I knew that since ~20 yrs, but I didn't know the affected gcc > version(s). According to http://toni.technetium.be/hacker/pragma.htm > this "special" pragma handling should be in gcc 1.34. > > But I cannot find gcc 1.34. ftp.gnu.org has gcc-1.30.atari (where the > sequence doesn't

old gcc #pragma handling

2019-01-29 Thread Christian Groessler via cctalk
Hi, I knew that since ~20 yrs, but I didn't know the affected gcc version(s). According to http://toni.technetium.be/hacker/pragma.htm this "special" pragma handling should be in gcc 1.34. But I cannot find gcc 1.34. ftp.gnu.org has gcc-1.30.atari (where the sequence doesn't exist), and

Re: Oh Darn (Re: early PDP-11/45 info sought)

2019-01-29 Thread Fritz Mueller via cctalk
> On Jan 29, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Jay Jaeger wrote: > > Dang it - the dates fooled me. (blush) Sorry to get your hopes up, > Fritz. Oh, darn! Well, thanks anyway for taking a look. And so the search continues... The later revisions and other docs are still quite a nice find, and it would

Oh Darn (Re: early PDP-11/45 info sought)

2019-01-29 Thread Jay Jaeger via cctalk
Dang it - the dates fooled me. (blush) Sorry to get your hopes up, Fritz. Here is some more accurate information: The first set: The first page (the directory) is actually 6/76 in the revisions block. It is *later* than the one on bitsavers. Interesting, though: it actually shows

Re: OT Parts houses & scrappers

2019-01-29 Thread Marvin Johnston via cctalk
Sorry, but no. It?s grossly offensive for things that work perfectly well and that someone might actually find useful to go to scrap. There?s tons of useless and broken junk that our civilization can mine for scrap, we don?t need to actually destroy things that have actual value. If someone

Re: sun 88780 on ebay

2019-01-29 Thread emanuel stiebler via cctalk
On 2019-01-29 14:45, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > A 30+ track head to deal with a variety of tape formats would be ideal. Not > just 7 and 9 but real oddballs -- there are some 10 track 1/2 inch tape > formats around. Not to mention that one could read DECtape that way, even if > the head

Re: sun 88780 on ebay

2019-01-29 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jan 29, 2019, at 2:31 PM, John Foust via cctalk > wrote: > > ... > I posted about his a few years ago. See below. > ... > He wishes there was a modern replacement for reading old tapes. > Seven-track and nine-track. Speed is not an issue; data recovery is. > He says hardly anyone

Re: early PDP-11/45 info sought

2019-01-29 Thread Jay Jaeger via cctalk
On 1/27/2019 11:01 PM, Fritz Mueller via cctalk wrote: > Hi Jay, > >> On Jan 27, 2019, at 7:07 PM, Jay Jaeger wrote: >> >> I think I can help some... I DO have earlier PDP-11/45 CPU drawings... > > Man, this list is the absolute best! > > The '72 KB11-A drawings would be most immediately

Re: early PDP-11/45 info sought

2019-01-29 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
From: Jay Jaeger > Here is what I have for drawings: Wow. You have some very desirable stuff there! Let me point at a couple of things of particular interest: > B-TC-FP11-C-6 FP11-C (Print Set MP00038) December 75 > [M8126, M8127, M8128, M8129] AFAIK, prints for the FP11-C are

decgraphic brochures on eBay

2019-01-29 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
Is anyone here bidding on them that intends to scan them? I won't snipe them if that's the case

Re: sun 88780 on ebay

2019-01-29 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
doesn't matter. it would be on the options list, which the seller smeared out the other odd thing was there should be a sun logo badge on the front On 1/29/19 1:44 AM, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote: > I read >   HP Tape Drive 1/2" 1600/6250 1E > on the label at the back.

Re: sun 88780 on ebay

2019-01-29 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 1/28/19 8:08 PM, David Collins via cctalk wrote: > I just restored a 7980XC (HP commercial version of the 88780) and it all > worked after I reinitialised the gains in each channel. David, do you know of anyone that has the schematics for these drives? MANY years ago, someone in Seattle

Re: OT Parts houses & scrappers

2019-01-29 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 01/29/2019 05:38 AM, John Foust via cctalk wrote: Space is money. Organization is money. Information is money. Advertising / listing for sale takes time and money. And it all only gets worse if the item is heavy, dirty, or leaking. One of the most impressive (videos of) ""organization

Re: OT Parts houses & scrappers

2019-01-29 Thread John Foust via cctalk
At 07:13 PM 1/28/2019, dwight via cctalk wrote: >When looking at the 45 minutes, also consider the various overheads involved. >They are in business. Time is money. Space is money. Organization is money. Information is money. Advertising / listing for sale takes time and money. And it all

Re: sun 88780 on ebay

2019-01-29 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Mon, 28 Jan 2019, Al Kossow wrote: https://www.ebay.com/itm/132933407806 this is interesting because of the price and that all of the Sun drives I've ever come across had the 800bpi option in them I read HP Tape Drive 1/2" 1600/6250 1E on the label at the back. Christian