Re: Craigslist Apple 512K Lisa Computer

2019-03-04 Thread Ray Arachelian via cctalk
On 03/03/19 19:26, Zane Healy wrote:
>> On Mar 3, 2019, at 10:35 AM, Ray Arachelian via cctalk 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> On 03/03/19 12:58, Marvin Johnston via cctalk wrote:
>>> I just ran across this and while I'm not interested, someone on the
>>> list might be.
>>>
>>> https://santabarbara.craigslist.org/sys/d/apple-512k-lisa-computer-valuetec-2900t/6821658432.html
>>>
>>>
>>> It was posted about 14 days ago, and looks to be in Santa Barbara, CA.
>>>
>> That doesn't look like it's a Lisa, it may be a tempest hardened Mac 512.
> An interesting system.  Someone needs to save this.  Based on the 
> description, and the way it looks, I think you’re right about it being 
> designed for TEMPEST hardening.  There were some TEMPEST versions of the Mac 
> II.
>
> Zane
>
>
Yeah, totally it should be saved. This photo is interesting:
https://images.craigslist.org/00I0I_5CA0pMPnaIP_1200x900.jpg that does
look like the Lisa's keyboard. Perhaps they modified one to work with this.

But perhaps it's really a Mac 512k keyboard that also has the numeric
keypad all inside a single case:
https://s14-eu5.startpage.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=http:%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FdyvXb2T.jpg=e195b07752dbbef5f7b8640d048fd9a2



Re: PDP-11/60 manuals needed

2019-03-04 Thread Jay Jaeger via cctalk
The PDP-11/60 manuals described below have been scanned, and are
available on my Google Drive using this link:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2v4WRwISEQRWWFFdVpCZWFTZEU

Under ./pdf/dec/1160

Enjoy.



On 2/28/2019 1:19 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctech wrote:
> > From: Jay Jaeger
> 
> > I have EK-11060-OP-003: "PDP-11/60 installation and operation manual"
> > and an update EK-11060-OP-C1.
> 
> Yeah, that's the one I referred to as "the general -11/60 manual"; generally,
> there's one such for all the -11 models, but the exact name varies from model
> to model (unlike, say, the CPU tech manuals, the name for which is pretty
> predictable).
> 
> > let me know and I will scan it in and stick it on my Google drive in a
> > day or two or three
> 
> That would be great; thanks very much! No rush at all...
> 
> > I also have a spare processor handbook, EB-06498-20/77
> 
> We do have that one, thanks.
> 
> BTW, looking a little more closely at the cabinet/power-supply manual
> (pg. 1-7), the KD11-K TM might _only_ be available on fiche. If so, that'll be
> the first time I've ever seen that. Oddly enough, further down the page, the
> FP11-E TM seems to be available in printed form (EK-FP11E-TM).
> 
> 
> > From: Ethan Dicks 
> 
> > I've seen Tech Manuals printed as 2-up on C-sized paper
> 
> Yeah, generally things from the -11/20 era are like that (e.g. the RK11-C
> manual). Nothing later than that that I've ever seen, though.
> 
> >>> I have the two BA11 cabinets for an 11/60, the PSUs, and the front
> >>> panel (I'm missing the rack).
> 
> > "the rack" is just the outer box with rails (not an H960 - whatever the
> > designation is for the odd 11/60 cabinet).
> 
> I think it's the H9500 low-boy corporate cabinet, per Chapter 5 in
> the cabinet/power manual.
> 
> > The backplanes are in the BA11s. I seem to have both MOS and core
> > memory and, I am fairly sure, an RK611, along with the CPU. I need to
> > take a module inventory.
> 
> You seem to have most of the crucial bits, although you might be missing
> the power harness.
> 
> Do you have the optional WCS module (M7870)? There are also ROM modules, and
> a diagnostic module, that can go in that slot - only one of the three at a
> time, though.
> 
>   Noel
> 


Re: Need some PDP-11 paper tapes

2019-03-04 Thread Jay Jaeger via cctalk
On 3/4/2019 3:56 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
> I  would  love to have  focal 11 on paper  tape  too if  anyone can punch one 
> up!  thx  ed#
> 

I have FOCAL-GT on paper tape - but no duplicates.  I'd expect that is
for a GT-11.


All of the other FOCAL tapes I have are for 8's/12's.



Re: Need some PDP-11 paper tapes

2019-03-04 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
I  would  love to have  focal 11 on paper  tape  too if  anyone can punch one 
up!  thx  ed#

In a message dated 3/4/2019 2:52:32 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
On 3/1/2019 12:50 PM, Rich Gopstein via cctalk wrote:> I just picked up a Remex 
paper tape reader from eBay and will be> interfacing it to my PiDP-11/Simh 
PDP-11 simulator shortly.> > I've been looking for an affordable punch, but 
haven't found one yet.  In> the meantime, does anyone know where I could get 
paper tapes with the> absolute loader and standalone basic?> > I don't need 
originals, so if anyone has a punch and is willing to punch> them for me, that 
would be great!  I'd be happy to pay whatever is> reasonable.  If you have any 
other PDP-11 tapes too, that would be helpful.> > Thanks.> > Rich> 
I have some duplicates of what you have asked for, so I could 
probablyaccommodate you.  But not all that many, so they aren't free.  
I*believe* (but would have to double check) that these are all actualDigital 
paper tapes I got with various machines, which increases the price.
I'd be willing to let them go for $20 each: feel free to pick andchoose.  If I 
have any that are just copies and not originals, those Iwould let go for $5 
each.  Plus shipping (they ought to all fit in onesmall flat-rate box, assuming 
you are in the US).
If others can punch copies for you, so much the better.  (I have punchesthat 
worked when I first got them, but they need work.  Same goes for myreaders, 
unfortunately).
Some of the items below (PAL, EDT, LINK) might be pretty useless withouta paper 
tape punch.  ;)
I have a few others (IOX).  I have FPP (floating point package) - but 
noduplicates.
Seehttp://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/www.computer.museum.uq.edu.au/pdf/DEC-11-XPTSA-B-D%20PDP-11%20Paper%20Tape%20Software%20Handbook.pdf
(Surprised that wasn't on the CHM bitsavers site...)
JRJ


KIND    ID    MACHINE    CONTENTS    COMMENT    Checksum    Checksum 2    
FILENAME    MFGSERIAL    TRAY    DATE    AVAILABILI    ERRORS    PREVIOUS_C

BASIC V007A
PT    DEC-11-AJPB-PB    PDP-11    PDP-11 BASIC V007A    SA=16104 RA=0          
 Digital        55    11/5/1970          
 

BASIC V008A
PT    DEC-11-LBSUA-A-PB    PDP-11    BASIC.LDA V008A SINGLE USER BASICREPLACES: 
DEC-11-AJPB-PB                Digital        44    12/1/1972          
 


Absolute loader
PT    DEC-11-UABLA-A-PO    PDP-11    PDP-11 ABSOLUTE LOADER    
REPLACES:DEC-11-L2PC-P0            uabla-a.rim    Digital        62    5/5/1977 
         
 

Absolute loader (no switch register)
PT    DEC-11-UABLB-A-PO    PDP-11    ABSOLUTE LOADER VB07.00    
NON-SWITCHREGISTER VERSION                Digital        36    12/5/1975        
  
 


PAL-11A V007A
PT    DEC-11-UPLAA-A-PB    PDP-11    PAL-11A.LDA V007A    REPLACES: 
DEC-11-ASXB-PBSA=1516 RA=1516                Digital        39    11/3/1975     
     
 
PAL-11S V003A
PT    DEC-11-UPLSA-A-PL    PDP-11    PAL-11S.LDA V003A    REPLACES: 
DEC-11-ASQA-PLSA=2066 RA=2066                Digital        42    12/1/1972     
     
 


EDIT-11 V005A
PT    DEC-11-UEDPA-A-PB    PDP-11    ED-11 V005A    REPLACES: DEC-11-E1PA-PB    
      
 Digital        39    11/10/1975          
 


LINK-11S  V002A  (SA 22714)
PT    DEC-11-ULKSA-A-PL    PDP-11    LINK-11S.LDA V002A    
REPLACES:DEC-11-ZLQA-PL                Digital        41    12/1/1972          
 


ODT-11  V005A
PT    DEC-11-UODPA-A-PB    PDP-11    ODT-11.LDA V005A RE-ENTER=13032    
REPLACES:DEC-11-O1PA-PB SA=13026 RA=.30                Digital        44    
12/1/1972  
 

DUMPTT  V001A
PT    DEC-11-Y1PA-PB    PDP-11    DUMPTT V001A    SA=LOAD ADDRESS 
RA=LOADADDRESS                Digital        43    11/10/1969      
 

DUMPAB V001A
PT    DEC-11-Y2PA-PO    PDP-11    DUMPAB V001A    SA=XX7500 RA=XX7500          
 Digital        44    11/10/1969                      
 


Re: Need some PDP-11 paper tapes

2019-03-04 Thread Jay Jaeger via cctalk
On 3/1/2019 12:50 PM, Rich Gopstein via cctalk wrote:
> I just picked up a Remex paper tape reader from eBay and will be
> interfacing it to my PiDP-11/Simh PDP-11 simulator shortly.
> 
> I've been looking for an affordable punch, but haven't found one yet.  In
> the meantime, does anyone know where I could get paper tapes with the
> absolute loader and standalone basic?
> 
> I don't need originals, so if anyone has a punch and is willing to punch
> them for me, that would be great!  I'd be happy to pay whatever is
> reasonable.  If you have any other PDP-11 tapes too, that would be helpful.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Rich
> 

I have some duplicates of what you have asked for, so I could probably
accommodate you.  But not all that many, so they aren't free.   I
*believe* (but would have to double check) that these are all actual
Digital paper tapes I got with various machines, which increases the price.

I'd be willing to let them go for $20 each: feel free to pick and
choose.  If I have any that are just copies and not originals, those I
would let go for $5 each.  Plus shipping (they ought to all fit in one
small flat-rate box, assuming you are in the US).

If others can punch copies for you, so much the better.  (I have punches
that worked when I first got them, but they need work.  Same goes for my
readers, unfortunately).

Some of the items below (PAL, EDT, LINK) might be pretty useless without
a paper tape punch.  ;)

I have a few others (IOX).  I have FPP (floating point package) - but no
duplicates.

See
http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/www.computer.museum.uq.edu.au/pdf/DEC-11-XPTSA-B-D%20PDP-11%20Paper%20Tape%20Software%20Handbook.pdf

(Surprised that wasn't on the CHM bitsavers site...)

JRJ



KINDID  MACHINE CONTENTSCOMMENT ChecksumChecksum 2  
FILENAMEMFG
SERIAL  TRAYDATEAVAILABILI  ERRORS  PREVIOUS_C


BASIC V007A

PT  DEC-11-AJPB-PB  PDP-11  PDP-11 BASIC V007A  SA=16104 RA=0   

Digital 55  11/5/1970   


BASIC V008A

PT  DEC-11-LBSUA-A-PB   PDP-11  BASIC.LDA V008A SINGLE USER BASIC
REPLACES: DEC-11-AJPB-PBDigital 44  
12/1/1972   



Absolute loader

PT  DEC-11-UABLA-A-PO   PDP-11  PDP-11 ABSOLUTE LOADER  REPLACES:
DEC-11-L2PC-P0  uabla-a.rim Digital 62  
5/5/1977


Absolute loader (no switch register)

PT  DEC-11-UABLB-A-PO   PDP-11  ABSOLUTE LOADER VB07.00 NON-SWITCH
REGISTER VERSIONDigital 36  
12/5/1975   



PAL-11A V007A

PT  DEC-11-UPLAA-A-PB   PDP-11  PAL-11A.LDA V007A   REPLACES: 
DEC-11-ASXB-PB
SA=1516 RA=1516 Digital 39  11/3/1975   


PAL-11S V003A

PT  DEC-11-UPLSA-A-PL   PDP-11  PAL-11S.LDA V003A   REPLACES: 
DEC-11-ASQA-PL
SA=2066 RA=2066 Digital 42  12/1/1972   




EDIT-11 V005A

PT  DEC-11-UEDPA-A-PB   PDP-11  ED-11 V005A REPLACES: 
DEC-11-E1PA-PB
Digital 39  11/10/1975  



LINK-11S  V002A  (SA 22714)

PT  DEC-11-ULKSA-A-PL   PDP-11  LINK-11S.LDA V002A  REPLACES:
DEC-11-ZLQA-PL  Digital 41  12/1/1972   




ODT-11  V005A

PT  DEC-11-UODPA-A-PB   PDP-11  ODT-11.LDA V005A RE-ENTER=13032 
REPLACES:
DEC-11-O1PA-PB SA=13026 RA=.30  Digital 44  
12/1/1972   


DUMPTT  V001A

PT  DEC-11-Y1PA-PB  PDP-11  DUMPTT V001ASA=LOAD ADDRESS RA=LOAD
ADDRESS Digital 43  11/10/1969  


DUMPAB V001A

PT  DEC-11-Y2PA-PO  PDP-11  DUMPAB V001ASA=XX7500 RA=XX7500 

Digital 44  11/10/1969  


Re: Craigslist Apple 512K Lisa Computer

2019-03-04 Thread Marvin Johnston via cctalk



On the off chance that someone on the list wants it and doesn't like the 
idea of shipping, I'll be going to VCFMW in September and could bring it 
along. My route will be Santa Barbara, Las Vegas, north to I-80, and 
I-80 to the Chicago area. After that, I'll be headed to Pittsburgh, PA 
and it can be dropped off along the way.


I can also head out to Goleta (basically Santa Barbara) and check out 
what this person has.


Marvin



On Mar 3, 2019, at 10:35 AM, Ray Arachelian via cctalk  
wrote:

On 03/03/19 12:58, Marvin Johnston via cctalk wrote:

I just ran across this and while I'm not interested, someone on the
list might be.

https://santabarbara.craigslist.org/sys/d/apple-512k-lisa-computer-valuetec-2900t/6821658432.html


It was posted about 14 days ago, and looks to be in Santa Barbara, CA.


That doesn't look like it's a Lisa, it may be a tempest hardened Mac 512.


An interesting system.  Someone needs to save this.  Based on the description, 
and the way it looks, I think you?re right about it being designed for TEMPEST 
hardening.  There were some TEMPEST versions of the Mac II.

Zane