Refillable spray can

2019-03-22 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk

https://www.amazon.com/Jacquard-YouCAN-Refillable-Powered-Spray/dp/B0748KZFQK/


Re: Matching paint on DEC monitors, cases and cabinets

2019-03-22 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk

On 3/22/19 2:49 PM, stan via cctalk wrote:


I've seen some auto body supply shops that have  teh capability to take
a custom  mixed paint and inject  it into an aerosol spray can.
Some years ago there was an outfit that sold re-fillable 
aerosol cans.  They had a Schraeder tire valve on them and a 
screw-on cap to pour the paint in.  it was kind of like a 
miniature compressed-air paint sprayer that carried its own 
air supply.


I have no idea if these are still available.

Jon


Re: Matching paint on DEC monitors, cases and cabinets

2019-03-22 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk



> On Mar 22, 2019, at 7:23 PM, Charles Dickman via cctalk 
>  wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 8:26 AM Brian Roth via cctalk 
> wrote:
> 
>> Has anyone ever found a source for aerosol spray cans that are a close
>> matchto the colors that DEC used on their cases and such? I remember seeing
>> touch up colors mentioned in the past. Specifically the ivory/almond
>> colorof VT100's, DECservers, etc.
>> Brian
>> 
> 
> On the topic of DEC colors, FWIW,
> 
> A few years ago I took DEC STD 092 and attempted to converted the colors to
> RGB. You can take the conversions with a grain of salt, but the Color
> Specifications are from the standard.
> 
> http://www.chdickman.com/pdp8/DECcolors/

Nice.

What would also be interesting is a mapping from those obscure color 
specifications to Pantone color numbers.  That probably would address those 
"out of gamut" colors, for one thing.

paul



Re: Matching paint on DEC monitors, cases and cabinets

2019-03-22 Thread Charles Dickman via cctalk
On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 8:26 AM Brian Roth via cctalk 
wrote:

> Has anyone ever found a source for aerosol spray cans that are a close
> matchto the colors that DEC used on their cases and such? I remember seeing
> touch up colors mentioned in the past. Specifically the ivory/almond
> colorof VT100's, DECservers, etc.
> Brian
>

On the topic of DEC colors, FWIW,

A few years ago I took DEC STD 092 and attempted to converted the colors to
RGB. You can take the conversions with a grain of salt, but the Color
Specifications are from the standard.

http://www.chdickman.com/pdp8/DECcolors/


Re: What 6502 macro assembler was used for the AIM-65 Monitor ROM?

2019-03-22 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 11:14 AM Chuck Guzis via cctalk
 wrote:

> Many cross-assemblers for early MPUs were written in (shudder!) FORTRAN.
>  There were several good reasons for this.

> I think some of the old FORTRAN code for PALASM may still be around, as
> an example.

There is a lot of FORTRAN source code in the HP 1000 software
collection on Bitsavers, including versions of PALASM20 and PALASM24
that were originally Copyright 1983 by MMI.

12025-18001_Rev-2501.src
12025-18002_Rev-2501.src

Those tools were used to build some fuse maps of PAL devices on the
A-Series boards.

There is also FORTRAN source code for DEF29 and ASM29, a microcode
meta assembler for the AMD 2900 series. Those were originally
Copyright 1980 by MICROTEC, Sunnyvale CA.

24998-18643_Rev-5000.src
24998-18644_Rev-5000.src

Those tools were used to build the microcode for the A600 CPUs.


Re: Opening old DEC files

2019-03-22 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk


> On Mar 22, 2019, at 12:59 PM, John Foust via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> At 02:54 PM 3/22/2019, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
>> Years ago, there was a program for the Mac that would convert a TON of 
>> different file formats.  Trying to figure out what that was, 
> 
> Rings a bell, I can't remember the name either, but I think I have a copy.
> 
> - John

I inherited a copy (quite literally).  I managed to remember the company name 
is DataViz.  That led me to the product (MacLink Plus).  Sadly it looks like 
it’s strictly Windows and Mac doc’s.

https://web.archive.org/web/20080901054905/http://www.dataviz.com/products/maclinkplus/
https://web.archive.org/web/20080531052205/http://www.dataviz.com/products/maclinkplus/mlp_xlators.html

Zane




Re: Opening old DEC files

2019-03-22 Thread John Foust via cctalk
At 02:54 PM 3/22/2019, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
>Years ago, there was a program for the Mac that would convert a TON of 
>different file formats.  Trying to figure out what that was, 

MacLinkPlus.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacLinkPlus_Deluxe

http://www.sonic.net/mnitepub/pccafe/reviews/dataviz_maclinkplus/dataviz_maclinkplus.html

- John



Re: Opening old DEC files

2019-03-22 Thread John Foust via cctalk
At 02:54 PM 3/22/2019, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
>Years ago, there was a program for the Mac that would convert a TON of 
>different file formats.  Trying to figure out what that was, 

Rings a bell, I can't remember the name either, but I think I have a copy.

- John



Re: Opening old DEC files

2019-03-22 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk


> On Mar 22, 2019, at 3:48 AM, Bill Degnan  wrote:
> 
> 
> > 
> > On 3/21/2019 2:50 PM, Curt Vendel via cctalk wrote:
> >> I have many DEC files that I’ve recovered from old VMS backups to a PC.
> >> 
> >> Many are Word-11, ALL-IN-1 WPS and VMS Mail MAI files.
> >>
> 
> 
> Word-11 will be tricky.  I’m not aware of anyone having the media for that.  
> ALL-IN-1 is easy, if you’re running it, you can export as a MS compatible 
> doc.  
> 
> Zane
> 
> Someone (?) with Word11 and terminal software installed on a Rainbow could 
> download them, open, convert and upload in asci or other usable format?  Or 
> is that easier said than done.
> Bill


Is Word-11 available for the Rainbow?

A few years back, I *think* there was a discussion of converting Word-11 files 
from a RSTS/E system.  I just can’t remember any specific’s, or even if it was 
on this list.

In digging some more WordPerfect v5.3 for VMS can handle converting WPS-Plus 
documents.  I don’t know if Corel will still sell it.  I’m still trying to 
remember how to convert them in ALL-IN-1.

Years ago, there was a program for the Mac that would convert a TON of 
different file formats.  Trying to figure out what that was, I found this. I’m 
half tempted to buy a license, even though I don’t need it.  It would work on 
the XP VM I have to keep around to drive a film scanner.  I don’t see support 
for Word-11, but it does support MASS-11.

http://file-convert.com/flmn.htm#fmn_sf

Zane





Re: Matching paint on DEC monitors, cases and cabinets

2019-03-22 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 3/22/19 2:49 PM, stan via cctalk wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2019-03-22 12:18 p.m., Brian Roth via cctalk wrote:
>> I did check with an auto body supply shop and they said they could get 
>> a close match with paint to spray from a gun. I was hoping somebody 
>> may have found an off the shelf spray can that was close.
>>  On Friday, March 22, 2019, 8:52:58 AM EDT, Dave Wade 
>>  wrote:
>>
> 
> I've seen some auto body supply shops that have  teh capability to take 
> a custom  mixed paint and inject  it into an aerosol spray can. This was 
> years ago,  however,  and environmental regulations may have eliminated 
> that option.


Check out :

  https://preval.com/

All you need then is someone who can mix your color.  And I would
expect any place that sells bulk automotive paint can do that.  The
last time I bought any (for a car, not a computer) you had to buy a
minimum of a quart.  That's not much and, at least 15 years ago, it
was not particularly expensive.

bill


Re: What 6502 macro assembler was used for the AIM-65 Monitor ROM?

2019-03-22 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2019-Mar-22, at 11:14 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
> On 3/22/19 10:28 AM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 9:59 AM Chuck Guzis via cctalk
>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> At the expense of being boo-ed for this, could the original Rockwell
>>> stuff perhaps have been assembled using a mainframe/mini-hosted
>>> cross-assembler?
>>> 
>>> I'm aware of several situations where this was the case.
>> 
>> The date in the AIM-65 Monitor Program Listing header block in the
>> source code is Aug 22, 1978. That is less than 1 year after the
>> introduction date of the VAX-11/780. I suppose it still could have
>> been something that ran on a VAX by then, or a PDP-11 (or PDP-10?), or
>> some other mainframe/mini host if it wasn't self hosted on a Rockwell
>> 6502 development system.
>> 
>> It's really just more of a curiosity issue at this point if anyone
>> finds a definitive answer.
> 
> Many cross-assemblers for early MPUs were written in (shudder!) FORTRAN.
> There were several good reasons for this.
> 
> The first is that if you had a mini or mainframe, you were pretty much
> guaranteed to have FORTRAN, which had been implemented under various
> standards since 1966.
> 
> The other is that in the 70s, there was still a population of six-bit
> character machines not using ASCII, not to forget the ones using EBCDIC.
> So hard-coding character sets into programs that were supposed to be
> portable over a wide range of machines was an issue.
> 
> I think some of the old FORTRAN code for PALASM may still be around, as
> an example.

In that vein:

When I was tasked (1980) with producing a cross-assembler and cross-compiler
for the 68000 for our R sys, (Verex OS / Z language), the first operating 
target
was Motorola's 68000 emulator running on the campus mainframe (MTS on Amdahl / 
370).
(Followed by hardware, which was a 68000 exerciser board or a bare SUN-1 
processor board).

I'm pretty sure there was also a 68000 cross-assembler from Moto on the Amdahl,
although I'm not sure whether I used it or not, might have to confirm it's 
output with the output from mine.
IIRC the Moto programs were written in Fortran (oops, FORTRAN).



Re: Matching paint on DEC monitors, cases and cabinets

2019-03-22 Thread stan via cctalk




On 2019-03-22 12:18 p.m., Brian Roth via cctalk wrote:
  
I did check with an auto body supply shop and they said they could get a close match with paint to spray from a gun. I was hoping somebody may have found an off the shelf spray can that was close.

 On Friday, March 22, 2019, 8:52:58 AM EDT, Dave Wade 
 wrote:
  
  



I've seen some auto body supply shops that have  teh capability to take 
a custom  mixed paint and inject  it into an aerosol spray can. This was 
years ago,  however,  and environmental regulations may have eliminated 
that option.


Stan


-Original Message-
From: cctalk  On Behalf Of Brian Roth via
cctalk
Sent: 22 March 2019 12:26
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts

Subject: Matching paint on DEC monitors, cases and cabinets

Has anyone ever found a source for aerosol spray cans that are a close
matchto the colors that DEC used on their cases and such? I remember
seeing touch up colors mentioned in the past. Specifically the ivory/almond
colorof VT100's, DECservers, etc.
Brian


I have just had a can of spray paint made to match some new kitchen cupboards.
They had ventilation grills inserted to provide airflow to a gas boiler and 
they now match the doors.
Many car paint shops in the UK can do this.

Dave
   



Re: What 6502 macro assembler was used for the AIM-65 Monitor ROM?

2019-03-22 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 3/22/19 10:28 AM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 9:59 AM Chuck Guzis via cctalk
>  wrote:
>>
>> At the expense of being boo-ed for this, could the original Rockwell
>> stuff perhaps have been assembled using a mainframe/mini-hosted
>> cross-assembler?
>>
>> I'm aware of several situations where this was the case.
> 
> The date in the AIM-65 Monitor Program Listing header block in the
> source code is Aug 22, 1978. That is less than 1 year after the
> introduction date of the VAX-11/780. I suppose it still could have
> been something that ran on a VAX by then, or a PDP-11 (or PDP-10?), or
> some other mainframe/mini host if it wasn't self hosted on a Rockwell
> 6502 development system.
> 
> It's really just more of a curiosity issue at this point if anyone
> finds a definitive answer.

Many cross-assemblers for early MPUs were written in (shudder!) FORTRAN.
 There were several good reasons for this.

The first is that if you had a mini or mainframe, you were pretty much
guaranteed to have FORTRAN, which had been implemented under various
standards since 1966.

The other is that in the 70s, there was still a population of six-bit
character machines not using ASCII, not to forget the ones using EBCDIC.
 So hard-coding character sets into programs that were supposed to be
portable over a wide range of machines was an issue.

I think some of the old FORTRAN code for PALASM may still be around, as
an example.

--Chuck


Re: What 6502 macro assembler was used for the AIM-65 Monitor ROM?

2019-03-22 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 9:44 AM Mike Stein  wrote:
>
> I assume you've looked at RM65-dos.zip on Rich Cini's site?
>
> http://www.classiccmp.org/cini/systems.htm
>

That is where I found the a copy of the RM65-5101 / RM65-5101E FDC
Controller manual in the RM-65 FDC & DOS link.

I didn't notice the link for the binary files there too. I just took a
look at that. I'm not sure exactly what that is. It doesn't appear to
be for the DOS firmware that would be located on the FDC Controller
EPROM along with the low level FDC primitives located at $8000 -
$8EFF. The manual lists the part number for the firmware ROM as
A65-090.


Re: What 6502 macro assembler was used for the AIM-65 Monitor ROM?

2019-03-22 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 9:59 AM Chuck Guzis via cctalk
 wrote:
>
> At the expense of being boo-ed for this, could the original Rockwell
> stuff perhaps have been assembled using a mainframe/mini-hosted
> cross-assembler?
>
> I'm aware of several situations where this was the case.

The date in the AIM-65 Monitor Program Listing header block in the
source code is Aug 22, 1978. That is less than 1 year after the
introduction date of the VAX-11/780. I suppose it still could have
been something that ran on a VAX by then, or a PDP-11 (or PDP-10?), or
some other mainframe/mini host if it wasn't self hosted on a Rockwell
6502 development system.

It's really just more of a curiosity issue at this point if anyone
finds a definitive answer.


Re: What 6502 macro assembler was used for the AIM-65 Monitor ROM?

2019-03-22 Thread Mike Stein via cctalk
- Original Message - 
From: "Chuck Guzis via cctalk" 
To: "Mike Stein via cctalk" 
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2019 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: What 6502 macro assembler was used for the AIM-65 Monitor ROM?


> At the expense of being boo-ed for this, could the original Rockwell
> stuff perhaps have been assembled using a mainframe/mini-hosted
> cross-assembler?
> 
> I'm aware of several situations where this was the case.
> 
> --Chuck

That's quite possible; it's unlikely that they used one of the RM65/AIM65 
assemblers, but I couldn't find any reference in the brief description of the 
Macro Assembler regarding what system it ran on.

m


Re: What 6502 macro assembler was used for the AIM-65 Monitor ROM?

2019-03-22 Thread Will Cooke via cctalk


> On March 22, 2019 at 12:53 PM Mike Stein  wrote:
> 

> 
> On further investigation I found this line on Rich Cini's site:
> 
> I also recently received recompilable copies of the AIM monitor ROM in an A65 
> version and a TASM version. Here's a cached copy of A65 v1.04, the assembler 
> used for the A65 source files. The TASM files can be compiled using the 
> Telemark table assembler (TASM) from Squak Valley Software. My personal 
> preference is TASM, which I use for all of my 6502- and 8080-based 
> cross-assembly projects.
> 
> 
> Here's the link: http://www.classiccmp.org/cini/systems.htm#RWS
> So perhaps the A65 assembler listed there is the correct one?
> 
> -Will
> ---
> I'd be surprised; I think it's more likely that they used the R6500 Macro 
> Assembler you linked to in your previous post.
> 

> 
> m
Yes.  Right after posting that I looked into the .zip file and it appears to 
have MS-DOS executables, so not likely.  Was just waiting on someone to call me 
on it :-)
Will


"He may look dumb but that's just a disguise."  -- Charlie Daniels


"The names of global variables should start with    // "  -- https://isocpp.org


Re: What 6502 macro assembler was used for the AIM-65 Monitor ROM?

2019-03-22 Thread Will Cooke via cctalk


> On March 22, 2019 at 12:59 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> At the expense of being boo-ed for this, could the original Rockwell
> stuff perhaps have been assembled using a mainframe/mini-hosted
> cross-assembler?
> 
> I'm aware of several situations where this was the case.
> 
> --Chuck

I was thinking the same thing and actually went looking for one, but the only 
reference I could find was to a PDP-11 cross-compiler version of one of the 
other languages available on the AIM.  I don't remember which, PL-65 maybe.
Will

"He may look dumb but that's just a disguise."  -- Charlie Daniels


"The names of global variables should start with    // "  -- https://isocpp.org


Re: What 6502 macro assembler was used for the AIM-65 Monitor ROM?

2019-03-22 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
At the expense of being boo-ed for this, could the original Rockwell
stuff perhaps have been assembled using a mainframe/mini-hosted
cross-assembler?

I'm aware of several situations where this was the case.

--Chuck


Re: What 6502 macro assembler was used for the AIM-65 Monitor ROM?

2019-03-22 Thread Mike Stein via cctalk
- Original Message - 
From: "Will Cooke via cctalk" 
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" ; 
"Glen Slick" 
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2019 7:54 AM
Subject: Re: What 6502 macro assembler was used for the AIM-65 Monitor ROM?



> On March 21, 2019 at 4:47 PM Will Cooke via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> > On March 21, 2019 at 4:20 PM Glen Slick via cctalk  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Anyone know what 6502 macro assembler was used for the AIM-65 Monitor
> > ROM, as shown in the AIM-65 Monitor Program Listing manual, document
> > number 29650N36L ?
> 
> I would suspect it was the Rockwell System 65 Development System assembler 
> mentioned in this book:
> 
> 
> https://www.commodore.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/1981_Rockwell_Electronic_Devices_Division_Data_Book.pdf
> 
> on page 295
> 


On further investigation I found this line on Rich Cini's site:

I also recently received recompilable copies of the AIM monitor ROM in an A65 
version and a TASM version. Here's a cached copy of A65 v1.04, the assembler 
used for the A65 source files. The TASM files can be compiled using the 
Telemark table assembler (TASM) from Squak Valley Software. My personal 
preference is TASM, which I use for all of my 6502- and 8080-based 
cross-assembly projects.


Here's the link: http://www.classiccmp.org/cini/systems.htm#RWS
So perhaps the A65 assembler  listed there is the correct one?

-Will
---
I'd be surprised; I think it's more likely that they used the R6500 Macro 
Assembler you linked to in your previous post.

There was also an R6500 Software Preparation System (SPS) but it's much more 
limited; looking through the manual I don't see any mention of macros and there 
are only 4 .OPTs vs. the 18 in the Macro Assembler.

m



Re: What 6502 macro assembler was used for the AIM-65 Monitor ROM?

2019-03-22 Thread Mike Stein via cctalk
I assume you've looked at RM65-dos.zip on Rich Cini's site?

http://www.classiccmp.org/cini/systems.htm

- Original Message - 
From: "Glen Slick via cctalk" 
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" 
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2019 1:09 AM
Subject: Re: What 6502 macro assembler was used for the AIM-65 Monitor ROM?


> On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 3:23 PM Mike Stein  wrote:
>>
>> I can't help but I'm curious: why are you looking for this? Is there a lot 
>> of original Rockwell source out there?
>>
> 
> I have some Rockwell RM-65 cards which have on-board firmware. In
> particular a RM65-5101E FDC Controller and a RM65-5102E CRT
> Controller. It would be nice to have verified accurate machine
> readable source code for the firmware on these cards. One way to get
> that would be to manually type in verbatim the firmware source code
> from the assembly listings in the manuals, then assemble the source
> code, and then compare the resulting binary against the contents of
> the EPROMs on the cards to verify a binary match.
> 
> The source code could always be reformatted to match the input syntax
> of a different assembler, but from a historical documentation
> perspective it would be nice if the original source code format was
> preserved.
> 
> Dwight, I saw some posts from you from maybe last year where you were
> looking for a manual for the RM65-1000 / RM65-1000E CPU board. Did you
> ever find a copy or scan of that manual?
> 
> Does anyone have an AIM-65 DOS EPROM for the RM65-5101 / RM65-5101E
> FDC Controller? From a quick look at a hex dump of the firmware EPROM
> I have on my RM65-5101E FDC Controller it appears to match the low
> level primitives assembly listing in the 29801 N02 manual for the card
> 0x886C - 0x8EFF, except the copyright string is missing at the end.
> I'm not sure about the rest of the code in the FDC Controller EPROM.
> It might be something specific to the system where this card was being
> used, and not the standard AIM-65 DOS code. It would be nice to have a
> copy of the standard AIM-65 DOS EPROM to try using the RM65-5101E FDC
> Controller with an AIM-65. I have an extender board and cable to
> connect an AIM-65 to a RM65 Eurocard card cage.


Re: Matching paint on DEC monitors, cases and cabinets

2019-03-22 Thread Brian Roth via cctalk
 
I did check with an auto body supply shop and they said they could get a close 
match with paint to spray from a gun. I was hoping somebody may have found an 
off the shelf spray can that was close.
On Friday, March 22, 2019, 8:52:58 AM EDT, Dave Wade  
wrote:  
 
 

> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk  On Behalf Of Brian Roth via
> cctalk
> Sent: 22 March 2019 12:26
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> 
> Subject: Matching paint on DEC monitors, cases and cabinets
> 
> Has anyone ever found a source for aerosol spray cans that are a close
> matchto the colors that DEC used on their cases and such? I remember
> seeing touch up colors mentioned in the past. Specifically the ivory/almond
> colorof VT100's, DECservers, etc.
> Brian

I have just had a can of spray paint made to match some new kitchen cupboards.
They had ventilation grills inserted to provide airflow to a gas boiler and 
they now match the doors.
Many car paint shops in the UK can do this.

Dave
  


RE: Matching paint on DEC monitors, cases and cabinets

2019-03-22 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk



> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk  On Behalf Of Brian Roth via
> cctalk
> Sent: 22 March 2019 12:26
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> 
> Subject: Matching paint on DEC monitors, cases and cabinets
> 
> Has anyone ever found a source for aerosol spray cans that are a close
> matchto the colors that DEC used on their cases and such? I remember
> seeing touch up colors mentioned in the past. Specifically the ivory/almond
> colorof VT100's, DECservers, etc.
> Brian

I have just had a can of spray paint made to match some new kitchen cupboards.
They had ventilation grills inserted to provide airflow to a gas boiler and 
they now match the doors.
Many car paint shops in the UK can do this.

Dave



Matching paint on DEC monitors, cases and cabinets

2019-03-22 Thread Brian Roth via cctalk
Has anyone ever found a source for aerosol spray cans that are a close matchto 
the colors that DEC used on their cases and such? I remember seeing 
touch up colors mentioned in the past. Specifically the ivory/almond colorof 
VT100's, DECservers, etc.
Brian


Re: What 6502 macro assembler was used for the AIM-65 Monitor ROM?

2019-03-22 Thread Will Cooke via cctalk


> On March 21, 2019 at 4:47 PM Will Cooke via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> > On March 21, 2019 at 4:20 PM Glen Slick via cctalk  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Anyone know what 6502 macro assembler was used for the AIM-65 Monitor
> > ROM, as shown in the AIM-65 Monitor Program Listing manual, document
> > number 29650N36L ?
> 
> I would suspect it was the Rockwell System 65 Development System assembler 
> mentioned in this book:
> 
> 
> https://www.commodore.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/1981_Rockwell_Electronic_Devices_Division_Data_Book.pdf
> 
> on page 295
> 


On further investigation I found this line on Rich Cini's site:

I also recently received recompilable copies of the AIM monitor ROM in an A65 
version and a TASM version. Here's a cached copy of A65 v1.04, the assembler 
used for the A65 source files. The TASM files can be compiled using the 
Telemark table assembler (TASM) from Squak Valley Software. My personal 
preference is TASM, which I use for all of my 6502- and 8080-based 
cross-assembly projects.


Here's the link: http://www.classiccmp.org/cini/systems.htm#RWS
So perhaps the A65 assembler  listed there is the correct one?

-Will

"He may look dumb but that's just a disguise."  -- Charlie Daniels
"The names of global variables should start with    // "  -- https://isocpp.org


Re: Opening old DEC files

2019-03-22 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 21 Mar 2019 at 20:50, Curt Vendel via cctalk
 wrote:
>
> I have many DEC files that I’ve recovered from old VMS backups to a PC.
>
> Many are Word-11, ALL-IN-1 WPS and VMS Mail MAI files.
>
> They don’t open well in programs like the Windows Text editors
>
> Is there a program on Windows that can open these files and recognize all of 
> the formatting and control commands so they can be properly viewed?

Wow, I bet they don't!

That's a great question. I used tools such as that myself, decades
ago, but I didn't get to keep any documents.

I've even had the issue of importing from Word 6 into Word 97 and
later. I run Word 97 even now, under WINE on Ubuntu, not because
there's anything in 97 I need -- there isn't -- but because it uses
the same file-format as versions up to 2003 (Win)/2004 (Mac). I'd
rather run an even older, lighter version such as Word 95 or Word 6
for NT, but they use an older file-format modern WPs can't import.

A late version of WordPerfect for DOS *might* do it... I have WP6.2
for DOS running on PC DOS 7.1 and it runs fine on modern hardware. I'm
not confident, though.

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Re: Opening old DEC files

2019-03-22 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
> >
> > On 3/21/2019 2:50 PM, Curt Vendel via cctalk wrote:
> >> I have many DEC files that I’ve recovered from old VMS backups to a PC.
> >>
> >> Many are Word-11, ALL-IN-1 WPS and VMS Mail MAI files.
> >>
>


>
> Word-11 will be tricky.  I’m not aware of anyone having the media for
> that.  ALL-IN-1 is easy, if you’re running it, you can export as a MS
> compatible doc.
>
> Zane
>

Someone (?) with Word11 and terminal software installed on a Rainbow could
download them, open, convert and upload in asci or other usable format?  Or
is that easier said than done.
Bill

>
>


Re: Rk611 controller

2019-03-22 Thread Paul Anderson via cctalk
Hi Brian,

I might have one left, but I won't be able to check until next week. I know
I have a few RK06 and RK07 packs and two RK07 drives a list member wanted
but never picked them up.

Thanks, Paul

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 12:50 PM Brian Roth via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> I just acquired an RK07 drive and disk packs. I am looking for the 5
> Unibus boards and back plane to add to my 11/84.
>
> Brian.
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>