Re: Old CE manuals - bit savers books
On 5/5/2019 11:12 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: On 5/4/19 6:13 PM, ben via cctalk wrote: I was thinking it would be nice if bitsavers could do books. The Internet Archive is welcome to joust at that lightning rod. Well I found the 1st edition, I just wanted to check some things about C in that time frame. Ben.
Re: Fujitsi 2444AC 9-track tape drive/PDP-11
>>But plain old flat straight ribbon cable in a 10" length will do for the 2444; even at 6250, frequencies aren't much higher than 1MH Sounds like I might be ok. Except mine are 10 feet not inches! I guess I'll just have to try them out. Thanks everyone! From: cctalk on behalf of Chuck Guzis via cctalk Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 11:00 PM To: Dennis Boone via cctalk Subject: Re: Fujitsi 2444AC 9-track tape drive/PDP-11 On 5/1/19 6:58 PM, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote: > > I got a great pair of cables for this project. 50 conductor, 50 pin > > IDC, 10 feet long. > > So the minicomputer vendors in the 80s typically used twisted pair > ribbon for these things, as in the 1700/50 stuff Glen was talking > about. I don't know how long a cable would need to be for that to be > critical. Yup--good old Spectra-Strip Twist 'N' Flat shown here: http://www.spectra-strip.com/ecpartsearch3.cfm?partID=361&cfid=109257980&cftoken=e6f2501d4301db0d-A0328E4C-C60A-DD93-BF83E6D9C0B9DA8A
Re: Service for converting CD-ROMs into ISO files?
While the disk is copying, s/he/it can also type in whatever metadata is on the labels On Sun, 5 May 2019, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: How much time will it take for s/he/it to learn how to CORRECTLY transcribe a label? I gave up and just take a picture of any media I'm recovering, since the label itself has provenance value. For example it is important to know if the label is original or a hand-written copy. . . . and, I certainly would not "send them off for somebody else to do", without making those records of what I was sending. Since that needs to be done, anyway, it seems to ME to be more work to send out 3-4 dozen, than to do them in-house.
Re: Service for converting CD-ROMs into ISO files?
On 5/5/19 9:40 AM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > While the disk is copying, s/he/it can also type in whatever metadata is on > the labels How much time will it take for s/he/it to learn how to CORRECTLY transcribe a label? I gave up and just take a picture of any media I'm recovering, since the label itself has provenance value. For example it is important to know if the label is original or a hand-written copy.
Re: Service for converting CD-ROMs into ISO files?
On Sun, May 5, 2019, 10:41 AM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > >> So I would expect all you need to do is make an image copy of the disk. > > On Sat, 4 May 2019, J. Peterson via cctalk wrote: > > I'm trying to avoid the actual task of loading the CD, waiting for the > > computer to read all the bits, eject the CD, rename the file, load the > next > > CD, etc. > > I want to send a stack of disks someplace, have somebody else do that > 3-4 > > dozen times, and send the disks backs with a thumb drive containing all > the > > ISO files. > > 3-4 dozen??!? > That does not sound amenable to find a service to send them to! > > That sounds like "hire the neighbor's kid". > College kids will do anything for minimum wage. > While the disk is copying, s/he/it can also type in whatever metadata is > on the labels into a spreadsheet program for making a database. > In the past, when I needed to read 300 floppies, I wrote a script to read to a file. It printed a number and I made a tiny label with that number and put it on the diskette. Old then photograph the interesting ones. The script tossed me into an editor and I transcribed the label. The script also ran tools to try to list the dos or cpm files, saving the results. I had to hit return to start the next one. So I had two piles of diskettes and I'd transfer them one to the other after reading. I'd change them between meetings or when I thought about it. It took weeks to get through the 300, but there was little time that wasn't otherwise wasted devoted to this Warner >
Re: Old CE manuals - bit savers books
On 5/4/19 6:13 PM, ben via cctalk wrote: > I was thinking it would be nice if bitsavers could do books. The Internet Archive is welcome to joust at that lightning rod.
Re: Service for converting CD-ROMs into ISO files?
So I would expect all you need to do is make an image copy of the disk. On Sat, 4 May 2019, J. Peterson via cctalk wrote: I'm trying to avoid the actual task of loading the CD, waiting for the computer to read all the bits, eject the CD, rename the file, load the next CD, etc. I want to send a stack of disks someplace, have somebody else do that 3-4 dozen times, and send the disks backs with a thumb drive containing all the ISO files. 3-4 dozen??!? That does not sound amenable to find a service to send them to! That sounds like "hire the neighbor's kid". College kids will do anything for minimum wage. While the disk is copying, s/he/it can also type in whatever metadata is on the labels into a spreadsheet program for making a database.
Re: Service for converting CD-ROMs into ISO files?
On Sun, May 05, 2019 at 11:30:49AM +0100, Dave Wade via cctalk wrote: > Paul, > > I assumed you wanted some one else to do the work! > I suspect that if these are commercial CDs you will run into issues with > Copyright. > Commercial services that do Photos to CD etc. will generally want to be > assured that you own the copyright of the material they are copying. > If you turn up with a pile of commercial CDs that say "COPYRIGHT xyz > corperation" or are even commercial CDs they may not be happy. This. And if the content is of any importance, I would rather do the job with my own hand and not trust that some folks I had not seen would do it without scratching and perhaps making a copy for themselves. You know, just in case CDs dissapear somewhere in postal transit. And maybe store it in the cloud because cheaper. JP, you did not mentioned the number. "Few dozens", so let's assume 60. This thread lasts for three days and will not stop so soon. The number of CDs to scan per day is about twenty today - and is going to drop. Scanning ten per day, starting on May the 3rd, you would probably be done with it before this thread comes to a halt. Just MHO. -- Regards, Tomasz Rola -- ** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature. ** ** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home** ** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened... ** ** ** ** Tomasz Rola mailto:tomasz_r...@bigfoot.com **
Re: Service for converting CD-ROMs into ISO files?
On 04/05/2019 21:36, Dave Wade via cctalk wrote: Paul, VAX CD-ROMS generally are not ISO. ISO implies the ISO9660 file system, but many VAX CD ROMS are in native VMS Files-11 format. Some Windows utilities don't handle these so you need third party software to create an image of these CD's. Generally it has a .iso extension but as the content is not ISO9660 you can't mount it on Windows or Linux. Indeed, and the same is true of IRIX install CDs, which have an EFS filesystem. -- Pete Pete Turnbull
RE: Service for converting CD-ROMs into ISO files?
Paul, I assumed you wanted some one else to do the work! I suspect that if these are commercial CDs you will run into issues with Copyright. Commercial services that do Photos to CD etc. will generally want to be assured that you own the copyright of the material they are copying. If you turn up with a pile of commercial CDs that say "COPYRIGHT xyz corperation" or are even commercial CDs they may not be happy. I did find one company in the UK who offer this service:- https://www.ripcaster.co.uk/node/1268 who seem to have the ability to do this in bulk with automated machinery... Dave > -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of J. Peterson via > cctalk > Sent: 04 May 2019 16:05 > To: Paul Koning ; General Discussion: On-Topic > and Off-Topic Posts ; General Discussion: On-Topic > and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: Service for converting CD-ROMs into ISO files? > > Hi Paul, > > > So I would expect all you need to do is make an image copy of the disk. > > I'm trying to avoid the actual task of loading the CD, waiting for the computer > to read all the bits, eject the CD, rename the file, load the next CD, etc. > > I want to send a stack of disks someplace, have somebody else do that > 3-4 dozen times, and send the disks backs with a thumb drive containing all > the ISO files. > > Thanks, > jp > > > > > > On May 4, 2019, at 12:54 AM, J. Peterson via cctalk > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I have a stack of a few dozen CD-ROM disks with various files > > (old software, backup files, photos). I'm willing to pay a reasonable > > rate to have somebody read each of these in, convert them to .ISO > > files or some other reasonable format, and either make them > > downloadable or put them on a thumb drive. > > > > > > Does anybody know of such a service? I can find lots of services > > for converting audio CD's into MP3 files, but nothing that > > specifically handles data CD-ROMs. > > > > > > Any leads most appreciated. Please reply directly, as I don't > > often check this list. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > jp > > > >I thought a CD-ROM (data CD) *is* an ISO image. So I would expect all > >you need to do is make an image copy of the disk. On Unix systems > >that's trivial, just use the "dd" command to copy /dev/whatever to > >myfile.iso. > > > > paul
Re: Hayes Transet Manual and Software
> On 5 May 2019, at 03:57, Jason T via cctalk wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 23:43 Jason T wrote: > >> One of my few remaining Holy Grail items, I got a Hayes Transet 1000 >> this week. My three-part Hayes stack is now complete. >> > > Another Transet just sold on eBay: > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/382925076475 > > And this one has the 5.25" PC software disk that mine did not. If anyone > here won the item, please make an effort to image the disk. > > Interesting that the still rare but more common than the Transet > Chronograph, from the same seller, got over $100 more. >> I read that as ‘trainset’ and got derailed temporarily. -- adrian/witchy Owner of Binary Dinosaurs, the UK's biggest private home computer collection? t: @binarydinosaursf: facebook.com/binarydinosaurs w: www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk
Re: RS2030 MIPS workstation
Hi, On 5/3/19 3:22 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: > Anyone know much about early MIPS workstations? I'm trying to get a > MIPS RS2030 to boot, without much luck so far. It goes through the > selftest but stops with the internal LED display at "5" accompanied by > a continuous beep. > > Known problems: > > - The Dallas DS1287 battery is flat; I can hack a 3V lithium onto that. > I assume it should still work to some extent > even if the contents are lost? I have the same problem with a cloned MIPS machine, a Sumitomo Sumistation SP300. The biggest problem with my machine is that the NVRAM holds the ethernet address. If it goes flat, there seems to be no way to reprogram the NVRAM. If you find any solution for this, please tell me. Aside from the now broken ethernet, the machine works fine. It’s a 25MHz R3000 with 32MB RAM. The box runs SEIUX, something like Risc/os 4 in SVR3 mode with extra japanese localization, but adapted to the hardware. Some people said that some of the old MIPS machines used a M48T02 NVRAM and that you could plug the NVRAM in a SPARCstation to restore the ethernet address. So far, I have found no mentioning of the DS1287. A special problem with my machine is that most parts are soldered, including the NVRAM. Dennis
Re: Service for converting CD-ROMs into ISO files?
Hi Paul, > So I would expect all you need to do is make an image copy of the disk. I'm trying to avoid the actual task of loading the CD, waiting for the computer to read all the bits, eject the CD, rename the file, load the next CD, etc. I want to send a stack of disks someplace, have somebody else do that 3-4 dozen times, and send the disks backs with a thumb drive containing all the ISO files. Thanks, jp > On May 4, 2019, at 12:54 AM, J. Peterson via cctalk wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a stack of a few dozen CD-ROM disks with various files (old software, backup files, photos). I'm willing to pay a reasonable rate to have somebody read each of these in, convert them to .ISO files or some other reasonable format, and either make them downloadable or put them on a thumb drive. > > Does anybody know of such a service? I can find lots of services for converting audio CD's into MP3 files, but nothing that specifically handles data CD-ROMs. > > Any leads most appreciated. Please reply directly, as I don't often check this list. > > Thanks, > jp I thought a CD-ROM (data CD) *is* an ISO image. So I would expect all you need to do is make an image copy of the disk. On Unix systems that's trivial, just use the "dd" command to copy /dev/whatever to myfile.iso. paul
Re: Service for converting CD-ROMs into ISO files?
Hi Paul, > So I would expect all you need to do is make an image copy of the disk. I'm trying to avoid the actual task of loading the CD, waiting for the computer to read all the bits, eject the CD, rename the file, load the next CD, etc. I want to send a stack of disks someplace, have somebody else do that 3-4 dozen times, and send the disks backs with a thumb drive containing all the ISO files. Thanks, jp > On May 4, 2019, at 12:54 AM, J. Peterson via cctalk wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a stack of a few dozen CD-ROM disks with various files (old software, backup files, photos). I'm willing to pay a reasonable rate to have somebody read each of these in, convert them to .ISO files or some other reasonable format, and either make them downloadable or put them on a thumb drive. > > Does anybody know of such a service? I can find lots of services for converting audio CD's into MP3 files, but nothing that specifically handles data CD-ROMs. > > Any leads most appreciated. Please reply directly, as I don't often check this list. > > Thanks, > jp I thought a CD-ROM (data CD) *is* an ISO image. So I would expect all you need to do is make an image copy of the disk. On Unix systems that's trivial, just use the "dd" command to copy /dev/whatever to myfile.iso. paul
