Re: gunkies.org is down or?...

2019-07-03 Thread Tomasz Rola via cctalk
On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 08:21:39PM -0400, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > > From: Diane Bruce > > > Works fine. > > Probably a left-over cached entry; neither my ISP's DNS, nor MIT's ("Host > gunkies.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)") can resolve it at the moment. Yeah. And so it cannot be re

Re: gunkies.org is down or?...

2019-07-03 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Diane Bruce > Works fine. Probably a left-over cached entry; neither my ISP's DNS, nor MIT's ("Host gunkies.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)") can resolve it at the moment. One year Tore was off hiking or something, and it took a few days, but past experience is that he will get to it.

Re: gunkies.org is down or?...

2019-07-03 Thread Diane Bruce via cctalk
On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 07:40:17PM -0400, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > > From: Tomasz Rola > > > Is it really down? Could it come back? > > Tore forgot to pay the bill for his DNS entry; this is the third year in a row > the exact same thing has happened, on the exact same date! :-) :

Re: gunkies.org is down or?...

2019-07-03 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Tomasz Rola > Is it really down? Could it come back? Tore forgot to pay the bill for his DNS entry; this is the third year in a row the exact same thing has happened, on the exact same date! :-) :-( I've already sent him an email about it, this morning; hopefully he'll get with th

gunkies.org is down or?...

2019-07-03 Thread Tomasz Rola via cctalk
I have just noticed that. => (885 3):host gunkies.org Host gunkies.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) Looks like it fell off the edge of the world. Gog still has pages in cache, time of caching for one particular page I am reading is May 30th, 09:38:55 GMT. Is it really down? Could it come back?

Re: DecNet / Linux

2019-07-03 Thread John Forecast via cctalk
> On Jul 3, 2019, at 2:31 PM, E. Groenenberg via cctalk > wrote: > > > > > On Wed, July 3, 2019 18:52, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: >> On 7/3/19 7:05 AM, E. Groenenberg via cctalk wrote: >>> Kernel 2.6.32 was the last one to activly support Decnet. >> >> What does "actively support" mea

Re: DecNet / Linux

2019-07-03 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 7/3/19 12:31 PM, E. Groenenberg wrote: It's good to hear that later release work fine with it (even if it is to some point). Maybe it was silently maintained by others later on, who knows? I think there is a LOT of the Linux kernel that /still/ works by happenstance. As in the things th

Re: DecNet / Linux

2019-07-03 Thread E. Groenenberg via cctalk
On Wed, July 3, 2019 18:52, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > On 7/3/19 7:05 AM, E. Groenenberg via cctalk wrote: >> Kernel 2.6.32 was the last one to activly support Decnet. > > What does "actively support" mean? > > I got DECnet working in 2.6.38 with everything I tested. > > I got DECnet work

Re: DecNet / Linux

2019-07-03 Thread E. Groenenberg via cctalk
On Wed, July 3, 2019 19:51, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > > >> On Jul 3, 2019, at 9:05 AM, E. Groenenberg via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> Kernel 2.6.32 was the last one to activly support Decnet. > > Do you mean that in the sense of "it's listed in the documentation as a > supported feature" -- r

RE: DecNet / Linux

2019-07-03 Thread E. Groenenberg via cctalk
On Wed, July 3, 2019 19:25, Robert Armstrong via cctalk wrote: > > On 7/3/19 6:39 AM, John Many Jars via cctalk wrote: >> Say, can anyone tell me which version of the kernel was the last one to >> work with Decnet? > > Version 4.4.x kernels (Ubuntu 16.04.x) and maybe later can be made to > wo

Re: DecNet / Linux

2019-07-03 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 7/3/19 11:25 AM, Robert Armstrong via cctalk wrote: Version 4.4.x kernels (Ubuntu 16.04.x) and maybe later can be made to work with some tweaking. See http://rullf2.xs4all.nl/decnet/ Thank you for sharing that. I will file it away for future use. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

RE: DecNet / Linux

2019-07-03 Thread Robert Armstrong via cctalk
On 7/3/19 6:39 AM, John Many Jars via cctalk wrote: > Say, can anyone tell me which version of the kernel was the last one to > work with Decnet? Version 4.4.x kernels (Ubuntu 16.04.x) and maybe later can be made to work with some tweaking. See http://rullf2.xs4all.nl/decnet/ Bob

Re: DecNet / Linux

2019-07-03 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jul 3, 2019, at 9:05 AM, E. Groenenberg via cctalk > wrote: > > Kernel 2.6.32 was the last one to activly support Decnet. Do you mean that in the sense of "it's listed in the documentation as a supported feature" -- rather than "it can be turned on and if you do that it works" ?

Re: DecNet / Linux

2019-07-03 Thread John Forecast via cctalk
I have it running on a Raspberry Pi 3B+ with the latest Raspbian Buster release so that would be running kernel 4.19.50. Debian has not yet officially released Buster (this coming weekend I believe) so this is somewhat of a pre-release. Before anyone asks, there are still a couple of issues to t

Re: DecNet / Linux

2019-07-03 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
Bill Gunshannon wrote: > Well, that confuses me. > > > $ uname -r > 4.15.0-50-generic > > And my system supports decnet just fine. I can connect > to my VMS systems and I can connect to this Linux box > from a DECServer 200. > Doesn't a DECServer 200 speak LAT rather than DECNet? Regards, Pet

Re: Classic / NOP machines becoming available in Berlin (inc. DECs, Commodores, Apples, HPs, SGIs and more)

2019-07-03 Thread shadoooo via cctalk
Hello Peter, you have a nice list of interesting things. I'm very interested in DEC machines, which I collect and repair for preservation purposes. Among others, I could be interested in those: DECmate assorted QBUS boards (do you have a list?) VAX 4000/90A VAX 4000/96 VAX 4000/100A VAX 4000/105

Re: DecNet / Linux

2019-07-03 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 7/3/19 9:05 AM, E. Groenenberg via cctalk wrote: > > > On Wed, July 3, 2019 14:39, John Many Jars via cctalk wrote: >> Say, can anyone tell me which version of the kernel was the last one to >> work with Decnet? >> >> Does anyone know what the actual issues are? My friend who does kernel >> s

Re: DecNet / Linux

2019-07-03 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 7/3/19 7:05 AM, E. Groenenberg via cctalk wrote: Kernel 2.6.32 was the last one to activly support Decnet. What does "actively support" mean? I got DECnet working in 2.6.38 with everything I tested. I got DECnet working to a lesser degree with 3.. (I can boot VMs and get specific versions

Re: DecNet / Linux

2019-07-03 Thread E. Groenenberg via cctalk
On Wed, July 3, 2019 14:39, John Many Jars via cctalk wrote: > Say, can anyone tell me which version of the kernel was the last one to > work with Decnet? > > Does anyone know what the actual issues are? My friend who does kernel > stuff wants to know. > > -- > Yoyodyne Propulsion Systems: "Th

Re: DecNet / Linux

2019-07-03 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 7/3/19 10:22 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: I'll see if I can find any notes. Typical. As soon as I hit send, I find what I was looking for. Here's what I tweeted in December '17: """ I’ve managed to get DECnet working in Ubuntu 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, and 14. 9, 10, and 11 work with ever

Re: DecNet / Linux

2019-07-03 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 7/3/19 6:39 AM, John Many Jars via cctalk wrote: Say, can anyone tell me which version of the kernel was the last one to work with Decnet? I was playing with DECnet in December '17, particularly for MAIL-11 in VMs running older Ubuntu. I got it to work well in 2.6.38. (At least I didn't

Re: Classic / NOP machines becoming available in Berlin (inc. DECs, Commodores, Apples, HPs, SGIs and more)

2019-07-03 Thread Peter Dreisiger via cctalk
On 3 Jul 2019, at 14:10, Peter Dreisiger wrote: *snip* > ... finding people (or groups) with similar interests and plans would have > been an equal-first priority, but given my more recent ‘life changes', sale > price --- and the ability to better pursue my new focuses --- is now more of > a f

DecNet / Linux

2019-07-03 Thread John Many Jars via cctalk
Say, can anyone tell me which version of the kernel was the last one to work with Decnet? Does anyone know what the actual issues are? My friend who does kernel stuff wants to know. -- Yoyodyne Propulsion Systems: "The Future Begins Tomorrow" Visit us at: http://www.yoyodyne-propulsion.net --

Classic / NOP machines becoming available in Berlin (inc. DECs, Commodores, Apples, HPs, SGIs and more)

2019-07-03 Thread Peter Dreisiger via cctalk
Dear all, Apologies for this semi-spam message from a long-time appreciator of classic computers and nostalgic obsolete products, but I hope this will be of interest to at least a few people here. So, yes, by way of context, I’ve been acquiring what I consider to be characterful and/or histori