Today I can announce that 10 original Apple 1 computers will be displayed at
VCF West, and we're working on getting more.
Why? That is, what’s the advantage of having 10+ instead of one or two?
Awesomeness.
The Apple I never did very much, so is there really much to actually show on
At 12:18 PM 8/07/2019 +, jesse cypress-tech.com wrote:
>If anyone wants 87 HP 1000 series mux cards for gold or to play around
>with, I'm starting to clean house. The ebay link is below.
>
>https://www.ebay.com/itm/383039137321
Wow. Way to make everyone interested in restoring HP 1000
Yes Evan, you mentioned that.
I know; ergo my use of a smiley there...
For those who like that sort of thing, here's more on the author of the
PDP-8 ALGOL:
https://ouscr.org.uk/index.php/obituaries?id=54
On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 09:04:38PM -0700, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Jul 2019, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote:
> >That is him.
> >I thought that some fun could be made of him: invent some stories
[...]
>
> Be careful about taunting a time traveller.
> He might read what you write and
Does anyone here have any sort of guide on how to get QEMU working
emulating a sparc or sparc64 machine WITH networking that actually works?
I've been banging my head against zillions of guides that are dreadfully
outdated or just don't work.
--
David Griffith
d...@661.org
A: Because it
On Tue, 9 Jul 2019, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote:
That is him.
I thought that some fun could be made of him: invent some stories
about how he conducts various petty crimes in a past in order to get
hold of many precious classic computers. So that he could easily
retire like some of use would
On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 6:47 AM Guy Fedorkow via cctalk
wrote:
>
> I have a small stack of Sun 3 Administrator, Networking and Diagnostic
> manuals, from about 1990. Contact me if you think anyone would want them?
> Thanks
I have scanned as many Sun-3 era manual as I've gotten my hands on,
but
On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 10:02:27PM -0500, John Herron wrote:
> Maybe I should Google this but I thought John Titor was the man claiming to
> be from the future and looking for an IBM 5100 for the ability to run APL.
That is him.
> I'm not familiar with any apple 1 story but I remember him
> How many different protocols / methods can we collectively come up with
> for how email can be transferred?
There is the old AUTODIN system, which is email before email was
"invented". I have never seen the protocol details, but there can not
be much to it.
--
Will
I'm combining my replies into one message to avoid spamming the mailing
list.
Thank you all for intriguing responses. :-)
On 7/5/19 3:28 PM, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote:
· FidoNet (FTN)
As long as we're being silly, this isn't really one protocol.
There are a number of different
On Mon, Jul 8, 2019, 1:09 PM Tomasz Rola via cctalk
wrote:
Or even how John Titor swindled Apple I
board supposed to be owned by Guy D from under his nose and now sits
on many such boards, retired and sipping pinacolada.
On Mon, 8 Jul 2019, John Herron via cctalk wrote:
Maybe I should
Maybe I should Google this but I thought John Titor was the man claiming to
be from the future and looking for an IBM 5100 for the ability to run APL.
I'm not familiar with any apple 1 story but I remember him posting and
calling in to a night time radio show. I didn't follow everything so I
On Jul 5, 2019, at 1:52 PM, Evan Koblentz via cctalk
wrote:
Today I can announce that 10 original Apple 1 computers will be displayed at
VCF West, and we're working on getting more.
On Mon, 8 Jul 2019, Chris Hanson via cctalk wrote:
Why? That is, what’s the advantage of having 10+ instead
On Jul 5, 2019, at 1:52 PM, Evan Koblentz via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Today I can announce that 10 original Apple 1 computers will be displayed at
> VCF West, and we're working on getting more.
Why? That is, what’s the advantage of having 10+ instead of one or two?
The Apple I never did very much,
> So my new theory is that it's the MBox (either the backplane, the
> boards, or the wiring from it to connectors, etc) that is the difference
> between the KL10-A and the KL10-B.
So I wuz confused; the second backplane is not the MBox (which is apparently
on the main CPU backplane),
On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 1:30 PM Noel Chiappa via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> So early KL10's (KL10-A's, to be precise) only support a single DTE20, and
> no RH20's. Later ones supported up to 4 of the former, and up to 8 of the
> latter.
>
That's because the 1080 has different I/O
On Mon, 8 Jul 2019, Evan Koblentz via cctalk wrote:
The only people growing up today that would pay anything like that amount,
would only pay that much because they expected to make a profit. It is just
an investment.
Don't underestimate the force of "bragging rights" to people who can afford
Yes Evan, you mentioned that. Eventually there will be people settling estates.
The first ones sold will do well but eventually, even those that want bragging
rights will have little interest in such items. Apple is already at a point
that they no longer have a hold on the market. They may be
The only people growing up today that would pay anything like that amount,
would only pay that much because they expected to make a profit. It is just an
investment.
Don't underestimate the force of "bragging rights" to people who can
afford such things. Many of them buy an Apple 1
On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 01:30:36PM -0500, John Foust via cctalk wrote:
> At 01:09 PM 7/8/2019, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote:
> >Now they tell me (bastards!) that said keyboard
> >alone can go for 1000+ euros. And never mind the big box, mem extender
> >and the rest.
>
> What? Why? I must have a
The value of Apple 1s are clearly a combination of many things. They're about a
factor of 500x because they were Apples first product. There is no question
about that. Other factors include limited run. The fact that may were turned in
for credit to get an Apple II made them even rarer.
Value
Thank you Carlos,
I have that cable currently and can confirm it reroutes the pinout to
RS232 standard for PCs. I can dialog with the computer, at least I
think I am. When I put it into dialog on the host, the keys I press on
the host shows on the connected PC and vice-versa. I tried
On 7/8/19 9:19 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
> What matters to me is [b]documentation[/b], however it's preserved. I'm
> often faced with a bit of old data and I need to know the details upon
> which it was fabricated. That has value to me. Al K has been
> invaluable in this respect.
>
So I'm a little puzzled by something, and I was wondering if anyone
here knows the answer.
So early KL10's (KL10-A's, to be precise) only support a single DTE20, and
no RH20's. Later ones supported up to 4 of the former, and up to 8 of the
latter.
I always supposed this to be part and parcel of
At 01:09 PM 7/8/2019, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote:
>Now they tell me (bastards!) that said keyboard
>alone can go for 1000+ euros. And never mind the big box, mem extender
>and the rest.
What? Why? I must have a few in the warehouse...
- John
On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 09:19:09AM -0700, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
> On 7/8/19 8:25 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
>
> >
> > Spoken like a non-collector. :-)
>
> I suppose that's the root of it. I'm basically a pragmatist. I give
> away old hardware that no longer has any use to me.
The high price isn’t a Steve Jobs distortion field. The Apple-1 was
collectible in the 1980’s before Jobs became the one we all remember. The
Apple-1 was really the 1st collectible personal computer and it was produced in
very limited numbers for a very short time and was tied the grandparent
On 7/8/19 8:25 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
>
> Spoken like a non-collector. :-)
I suppose that's the root of it. I'm basically a pragmatist. I give
away old hardware that no longer has any use to me. When I am
eventually forced to downsize, (or my widow is) most of the stuff will
go
2 PrintServer 17
2 PrintServer 17 high-capacity (1500 sheet) paper trays
3 PS17 Maintenance kits (220 V)
2-4 PS17 Toner cartridges
2 LS17 Toner cartridges
1 MicroVax 3100
1 InfoServer 1000
1 vertical SCSI storage rack
On Mon, 8 Jul 2019 at 17:02, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Practically speaking, what's the difference between a close working
> replica and the original? Are the bits somehow imbued with some
> additional spiritual property?
>
> The replica may actually be more reliable.
Spoken like a
On 7/8/19 7:43 AM, Ethan O'Toole via cctalk wrote:
>> Actually the cheapest Apple-1 reproduction is just over 4 figures. A
>> reproduction with date correct components cost as much as 5 figures.
>> A work-alike like a replica-1 is cheap, maybe $150
>
> No idea why people would go 5 figures on a
As for expectations for Bill, my son made a similar journey , by bus, from
Oxford to Gatwick, so a bit of M40 then 75% of the M25 this morning. He allowed
2 hours extra and is cross because for once he arrived on schedule and had two
extra hours at Gatwick to kill.
Dave
> -Original
Actually the cheapest Apple-1 reproduction is just over 4 figures. A
reproduction with date correct components cost as much as 5 figures.
A work-alike like a replica-1 is cheap, maybe $150
No idea why people would go 5 figures on a replica that is still a
replica?
The only reason for the
On Mon, 8 Jul 2019 at 14:53, Dave Wade wrote:
>
> I wouldn't like to comment on relationships, but they appeal to very
> different audiences. There is now some signage at the main gate but its
> minimal...
OK, noted.
So apart from my comment that BP depended on the revenues and draw of
TNMOC,
If anyone wants 87 HP 1000 series mux cards for gold or to play around
with, I'm starting to clean house. The ebay link is below.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/383039137321
Liam,
As one of the TNMOC Members (roughly equivalent to "friends" in other museums)
I don't think Bletchley Park would collapse without TNMOC. It has huge income
from renting out buildings other than those TNMOC use.
It has many visitors who are interesting in the place and the story and
>
> To echo what others have said:
>
> * you will have around an hour and a half at the museum. I would say
> that's about the right ballpark.
>
> * there are 2 _entirely separate_ museums on the Bletchley Park site:
> ** Bletchley Park: https://www.bletchleypark.org.uk/
> ** The National Museum
I have a small stack of Sun 3 Administrator, Networking and Diagnostic
manuals, from about 1990. Contact me if you think anyone would want them?
Thanks
/guy fedorkow
On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 at 11:40, Bill Degnan via cctech
wrote:
>
> Refined question - When would I have to depart the museum in order to
> travel by rental car (driving legal speeds) from Bletchley to Gatwick
> Airport in time for a 4PM flight on 7/11 (A Thursday)?
To echo what others have said:
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