Re: Data General/Rolm milspec systems
RAF Chicksands, and to Ops building probably couldn't withstand anything bigger than a AK 47 or M16 hit. The RAF commander couldn't ever get into our building. I think he was in charge of grounds keeping, Etc. USAFSS , before they changed the command name = NSA. On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 1:10 PM Jeffrey S. Worley via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2019 10:03:54 -0400 > From: "Craig M." > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: ROLM - Dat general 1602 - AN/UYK-19 computers. > Message-ID: > < > CAD1aQJ5FnQDS7i+iLeh-+zBSBrzaqV9-f61Q76XgEbz=fsn...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Good Morning, > Have you ever come across a document called the > "Rolm > I/O Designers Guide?" I am working with some developers trying to > figure > out the data words and how they work on a Navy AN/UYK-19 computer. > > I have some sticktime on the Eclipse machines. In going to boot camp > getting my MV4000/DC I ran into some interesting characters. One was > with DG on military sales, was visiting Groton? or another base where a > test was being conducted. The computer was suspended on wires in a > hangar and, while running, was subjected to simultaneous blows from > heavy pendulums on either side. The noise was teriffic and my friend > asked the same question, why on earth, to which the cryptic reply was > two words: Depth Charges. > > Probably your USAF machine, corn field kept though it was, was designed > for service in another kind of silo, the missile kind. Those would be > projected to survive near-direct hits from megaton thermonuclear > weapons. Not to mention that no air force property is immune from > attack by all sorts of ordinance, nuclear or otherwise. > > Best, > > Jeff > > Another note, saw an old query on the "Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, > 1602B, > 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)" thread about breaking > down > the military system designations. This website may help if you never > got an > earlier answer: > > https://dsm.forecastinternational.com/wordpress/2015/05/27/whats-in-a-name-u-s-department-of-defense-an-nomenclature-made-easy/ > Thank you! > > Craig Mook > >
RE: keyboard list
-Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Al Kossow via cctalk Sent: Friday, September 06, 2019 3:44 PM To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: Re: keyboard list On 9/6/19 12:02 PM, Electronics Plus via cctalk wrote: > Cadmus 00185-00 is it this keyboard? the first picture on https://www.pcs.com/en/company/history/the-history-of-pcs/ I have asked; awaiting a reply. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: Seeking enlightenment regarding Bus Adapter Purges on Unibus VAXen (and their ilk)
On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 4:32 AM Matt Burke via cctalk wrote: > I'm not sure if the adapter needs to request the purge at the end of > each block transfer. The driver may do this anyway but I'll have to > check the source listings. I would definitely check source listings. Also, check BSD/Ultrix _and_ VMS. I guarantee they don't do everything the same way (case in point RB730 controller initialization) but both will be insightful. My own Unibus (and Qbus and VAXBI) experience is with comm drivers not storage drivers so I don't have any insights on block transfers and purges, unfortunately. I'm excited for the results of this. -ethan
Re: keyboard list
On 9/6/19 12:02 PM, Electronics Plus via cctalk wrote: > Cadmus 00185-00 is it this keyboard? the first picture on https://www.pcs.com/en/company/history/the-history-of-pcs/
keyboard list
This is the next list of keyboards I can bring in. Anybody want some of this? 2 IBM 6052141 IBM 1391401 missing some keycaps Apple M3501 nice ,no pluggable connect cable WYSE PCE,p/n 900840-01 Din-5 connector Data Desk Int,new/unused Din-5 Datatech SBK-100 Cadmus 00185-00 (dark grey) no plug-in connect cable 2 Chicony KB-5311 very nice Din5 Commodore KPR-E9447 unused Din 5 Honeywell 101WN unused Din-5 Keytronic KB101 Plus Din-5 Mitsumi KPQ-EA9YC looks good Din-5 Mitsumi NPQ-E99ZC-13 Din-5 HP C14058 If so, please send price offer for what you want. Shipping will be extra. Yes, I will ship internationally. Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 830-370-3239 cell sa...@elecplus.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Data General/Rolm milspec systems
Message: 4 Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2019 10:03:54 -0400 From: "Craig M." To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: ROLM - Dat general 1602 - AN/UYK-19 computers. Message-ID: < CAD1aQJ5FnQDS7i+iLeh-+zBSBrzaqV9-f61Q76XgEbz=fsn...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Good Morning, Have you ever come across a document called the "Rolm I/O Designers Guide?" I am working with some developers trying to figure out the data words and how they work on a Navy AN/UYK-19 computer. I have some sticktime on the Eclipse machines. In going to boot camp getting my MV4000/DC I ran into some interesting characters. One was with DG on military sales, was visiting Groton? or another base where a test was being conducted. The computer was suspended on wires in a hangar and, while running, was subjected to simultaneous blows from heavy pendulums on either side. The noise was teriffic and my friend asked the same question, why on earth, to which the cryptic reply was two words: Depth Charges. Probably your USAF machine, corn field kept though it was, was designed for service in another kind of silo, the missile kind. Those would be projected to survive near-direct hits from megaton thermonuclear weapons. Not to mention that no air force property is immune from attack by all sorts of ordinance, nuclear or otherwise. Best, Jeff Another note, saw an old query on the "Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)" thread about breaking down the military system designations. This website may help if you never got an earlier answer: https://dsm.forecastinternational.com/wordpress/2015/05/27/whats-in-a-name-u-s-department-of-defense-an-nomenclature-made-easy/ Thank you! Craig Mook
Re: Seeking enlightenment regarding Bus Adapter Purges on Unibus VAXen (and their ilk)
On 9/5/19 9:22 PM, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote: > I have a pretty good grasp of > Unibus mechanics these days but I'm not quite understanding the reasoning > behind this. Here's what the Storage System Unibus Port Description > (AA-L621A-TK) document says: you might also want to ask on the simh developers list
Re: Seeking enlightenment regarding Bus Adapter Purges on Unibus VAXen (and their ilk)
On 06/09/2019 05:22, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote: > What I do not understand is (a) why such purges are necessary, and (b) how > the MSCP controller knows when one should occur. The Port Description doc > hints that it has to do with repeated access to a given area of memory. > The DW780 documentation hints that it needs to happen after *any* block > transfer. (See pg. 2-58 of the document linked above.) > > I think point 3 and 4 on page 2-59 are critical here. The memory accesses via the buffered data path must be to consecutive increasing addresses. If a non-consecutive access is required (transfer restart, compare etc) then the data path must be purged first. In the case of a write this will flush any residual bytes to memory and for a read it will ensure that fresh data is loaded to the buffer on the next access. At least that's my interpretation from reading 2.6.2.2 I'm not sure if the adapter needs to request the purge at the end of each block transfer. The driver may do this anyway but I'll have to check the source listings. Matt
Re: ROLM - Dat general 1602 - AN/UYK-19 computers.
We had a DG ROLM at my last base. Not Navy, but USAF. I don't remember which model, but it was a pretty reliable system. I have ideas, but not sure why we needed a ruggedised computer next to a potato field. On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 11:55 PM Craig M. via cctalk wrote: > Good Morning, > Have you ever come across a document called the "Rolm > I/O Designers Guide?" I am working with some developers trying to figure > out the data words and how they work on a Navy AN/UYK-19 computer. > > Another note, saw an old query on the "Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, > 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)" thread about breaking down > the military system designations. This website may help if you never got an > earlier answer: > > https://dsm.forecastinternational.com/wordpress/2015/05/27/whats-in-a-name-u-s-department-of-defense-an-nomenclature-made-easy/ > Thank you! > > Craig Mook >
