Re: help needed: Document scan of ISS Sperry Univac Driver Exerciser avalaible for bitsavers upload

2020-03-29 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
which  iss  drive  the  10 plotter  20 meg one?   Ed# In a message dated 3/27/2020 5:12:08 AM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes: On 3/27/20 3:55 AM, P Gebhardt via cctalk wrote: > I contacted two times Al via email for access credentials to upload the > document as I did

Re: PDP-8 Straight 8 restoration

2020-03-29 Thread Richard Pope via cctalk
Diane, Very nicely done. I read the whole thing. GOD Bless and Thanks, rich! On 3/29/2020 3:59 PM, Diane Bruce via cctech wrote: On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 09:47:51AM +1300, Brendan McNeill via cctech wrote: Here in NZ and around the world many of us are in lockdown and spending more time on

RE: H7874 power supply

2020-03-29 Thread Robert Armstrong via cctalk
Remembering that I have the R400x enclosure and I'm only interested in powering disk drives - I looked up the specs for the RF7x drives, and they all use about 1.5A at 5V and 2.5-3A operating at 12V. There's a 5-6A spinup surge on the 12V supply, but as long as you spin them up in sequence

Re: PDP-8 Straight 8 restoration

2020-03-29 Thread Marc Howard via cctalk
Nigel, I first learned assembly on a straight-8. Also learned about repair with the same machine (1974). As for fun time wasters back then there was a DECUS paper tape that could compute n! up to 200! exactly. I remember that I could start it before lunch, come back, and then about 15 minutes

Re: Split Ceramic Disk Capacitor

2020-03-29 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
> > Since I am forced to stay at home more than I would like I though I would > check some more PSUs. One I wanted to check was the H7109-C from one of my > VAXstation 4000 VLC machines. I found a leaked capacitor and some other high > ESR ones, so I will replace those. However, I also noticed a

Re: PDP-8 Straight 8 restoration

2020-03-29 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, 5:10 PM Diane Bruce via cctalk wrote: > On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 05:59:42PM -0400, Nigel Johnson via cctalk wrote: > > Brings back memories! My first 6800 cross assembler came to me as 2000 > > Fortran source code punch cards. We had an F4R4 compiler on the PDP11 but > >

Re: PDP-8 Straight 8 restoration

2020-03-29 Thread Randy Dawson via cctalk
I can't be the only one who would like to see the FORTRAN source of some of those editors, linkers, macro processors. As a medical electronics guy, I had to deal with a fortran monster of a database engine, manman. It was legacy in with the FDA, but woa, what a suck piece of crap it is. Hi

Re: PDP-8 Straight 8 restoration

2020-03-29 Thread Diane Bruce via cctalk
On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 05:59:42PM -0400, Nigel Johnson via cctalk wrote: > Brings back memories!  My first 6800 cross assembler came to me as 2000 > Fortran source code punch cards. We had an F4R4 compiler on the PDP11 but > the card reader was on the PDP-8. Funny how the kids don't realise

Split Ceramic Disk Capacitor

2020-03-29 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
Since I am forced to stay at home more than I would like I though I would check some more PSUs. One I wanted to check was the H7109-C from one of my VAXstation 4000 VLC machines. I found a leaked capacitor and some other high ESR ones, so I will replace those. However, I also noticed a ceramic

Re: PDP-8 Straight 8 restoration

2020-03-29 Thread Nigel Johnson via cctalk
Brings back memories!  My first 6800 cross assembler came to me as 2000 Fortran source code punch cards. We had an F4R4 compiler on the PDP11 but the card reader was on the PDP-8. The only common peripheral was paper tape.  One night, the Chief Engineer and I fed the cards into the PDP8 card

RE: H7874 power supply

2020-03-29 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
I have some notes I made about trying a PC PSU, I don't think it really worked, there are signals to indicate power OK and perhaps others. But perhaps a more concerted effort might yield something that could work. Regards Rob > -Original Message- > From: cctech On Behalf Of Robert >

RE: H7874 power supply

2020-03-29 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
I forgot to mention that I replaced a fair number of capacitors, even ones that had not leaked, because their ESR was a bit suspect. I have some notes, but it is hard to reconstruct exactly what I did. Regards Rob > -Original Message- > From: cctech On Behalf Of Maciej W. > Rozycki

PDP-8 Straight 8 restoration

2020-03-29 Thread Brendan McNeill via cctalk
Here in NZ and around the world many of us are in lockdown and spending more time on our computers, if that were possible. I have just completed the restoration of a PDP-8 Straight 8 which I believe is the only one in New Zealand. You can view the restoration story and find appropriate

Re: PDP-8 Straight 8 restoration

2020-03-29 Thread Diane Bruce via cctalk
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 09:47:51AM +1300, Brendan McNeill via cctech wrote: > Here in NZ and around the world many of us are in lockdown and spending more > time on our computers, if that were possible. I have just completed the > restoration of a PDP-8 Straight 8 which I believe is the only

RE: H7874 power supply

2020-03-29 Thread Robert Armstrong via cctalk
>Maciej W. Rozycki wrote: >numerous Chemi-Con SXF parts scattered across >all boards, some leaking Yeah, mine is full of "Nippon Chemi-Con" electrolytic too. What about just gutting the PS chassis and sticking in an ATX power supply? I don't know how the maximum current per output

Re: H7874 power supply

2020-03-29 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Mar 29, 2020, at 2:14 PM, Robert Armstrong via cctech > wrote: > >> Maciej W. Rozycki wrote: >> numerous Chemi-Con SXF parts scattered across >> all boards, some leaking > > Yeah, mine is full of "Nippon Chemi-Con" electrolytic too. > > What about just gutting the PS chassis and

RE: H7874 power supply

2020-03-29 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, Robert Armstrong via cctech wrote: > And then there's a giant PCB, almost 11" square, covered with opamps, 74LS > logic and discrete parts. There are filter caps, a transformer, and > switching transistors on this board too so it obviously produces yet another > power

RE: H7874 power supply

2020-03-29 Thread Robert Armstrong via cctalk
> Rob Jarratt >robert.jarr...@ntlworld.com> wrote: > I reverse engineered the schematic of the 12V output board. I >don't know if that would be of any use? How correct it is I don't know. Sure, if you don't mind sharing. Everything helps. Looks like there are five separate PCBs in there.

RE: H7874 power supply

2020-03-29 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
OK, I posted it here: https://robs-old-computers.com/2020/03/29/h7874-power-supply/ > -Original Message- > From: Robert Armstrong > Sent: 29 March 2020 15:44 > To: r...@jarratt.me.uk; 'General Discussion: On-Topic Posts' > > Subject: RE: H7874 power supply > > > Rob Jarratt

RE: VAXmate PSU

2020-03-29 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: Thanks Mattis. I do test it with a load, although to be honest I forgot to do this when I took the measurements yesterday. I use a modern-ish IDE disk and a load board from a MicroVAX 2000 as the dummy load. I don’t know if that is sufficient.

Re: Monitors FTGH

2020-03-29 Thread Adrian Graham via cctalk
> On 29 Mar 2020, at 11:27, Antonio Carlini via cctalk > wrote: > > The following four monitors are available free for pickup in the UK (OX17 > postcode). > > > All appear clean but are untested. All are believed to have been functional > when stored but that was ~2002/2003-ish. > > >

Re: DIBOL and RPG for RSTS

2020-03-29 Thread Guy Sotomayor via cctalk
On Sun, 2020-03-29 at 10:21 -0400, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > > On Mar 28, 2020, at 2:55 PM, dwight via cctalk < > > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > There are a few reasons most don't like Forth: > > > > 1. no type checking ( suppose to save dumb programmers ) > > 2. Often, no

Re: DIBOL and RPG for RSTS

2020-03-29 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 06:55:34PM +, dwight via cctalk wrote: > It is clearly not just a backwards LISP. LISP is another language that I shied away from in the past, but finally started exploring a while back. > It is not Python either. There's another point in its favor. I've tried to

Re: DIBOL and RPG for RSTS

2020-03-29 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Mar 28, 2020, at 2:55 PM, dwight via cctalk wrote: > > There are a few reasons most don't like Forth: > > 1. no type checking ( suppose to save dumb programmers ) > 2. Often, no floating point. ( Math has to be well thought out but when > done right in integer math it has few

Monitors FTGH

2020-03-29 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
The following four monitors are available free for pickup in the UK (OX17 postcode). All appear clean but are untested. All are believed to have been functional when stored but that was ~2002/2003-ish. Microvitec Cub. Seems to be in its original box. DEC VRT19-D3. Vision Master Pro 17.

Re: H7874 power supply

2020-03-29 Thread Holm Tiffe via cctalk
Rob Jarratt via cctech wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > From: cctech On Behalf Of Robert > > Armstrong via cctech > > Sent: 29 March 2020 02:29 > > To: cct...@classiccmp.org > > Subject: H7874 power supply > > > > Does anybody have a maintenance print or service manual for the

RE: H7874 power supply

2020-03-29 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctech On Behalf Of Robert > Armstrong via cctech > Sent: 29 March 2020 02:29 > To: cct...@classiccmp.org > Subject: H7874 power supply > > Does anybody have a maintenance print or service manual for the DEC > H7874? > This is the power supply used in

H7874 power supply

2020-03-29 Thread Robert Armstrong via cctalk
Does anybody have a maintenance print or service manual for the DEC H7874? This is the power supply used in the BA4xx and R400x cabinets. As you might guess, I have one that tries to power up but shuts down after a second. Probably a bad capacitor (or several), but this thing is ridiculously

RE: VAXmate PSU

2020-03-29 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Matt Burke via > cctalk > Sent: 29 March 2020 10:41 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: VAXmate PSU > > On 29/03/2020 08:50, Mattis Lind via cctalk wrote: > > Hello Rob, > > > > söndag 29 mars 2020 skrev Rob Jarratt : > > > >>

RE: VAXmate PSU

2020-03-29 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
Thanks, I do have an isolating transformer as well, so I will use that. I have done previous tests with a bench PSU on the UC3842 and found it needs 16V to get going. I just checked the Technical Description and it says the minimum current on the 5V output is 6.4A and on 12V it is 0.17A. I

Re: VAXmate PSU

2020-03-29 Thread Matt Burke via cctalk
On 29/03/2020 08:50, Mattis Lind via cctalk wrote: > Hello Rob, > > söndag 29 mars 2020 skrev Rob Jarratt : > >> Thanks Mattis. I do test it with a load, although to be honest I forgot to >> do this when I took the measurements yesterday. I use a modern-ish IDE disk >> and a load board from a

Re: VAXmate PSU

2020-03-29 Thread Mattis Lind via cctalk
Hello Rob, söndag 29 mars 2020 skrev Rob Jarratt : > Thanks Mattis. I do test it with a load, although to be honest I forgot to > do this when I took the measurements yesterday. I use a modern-ish IDE disk > and a load board from a MicroVAX 2000 as the dummy load. I don’t know if > that is

RE: VAXmate PSU

2020-03-29 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
Thanks Mattis. I do test it with a load, although to be honest I forgot to do this when I took the measurements yesterday. I use a modern-ish IDE disk and a load board from a MicroVAX 2000 as the dummy load. I don’t know if that is sufficient. I don’t know enough about PSUs to make the

Re: DIBOL and RPG for RSTS

2020-03-29 Thread ben via cctalk
On 3/28/2020 7:06 PM, dwight via cctalk wrote: RPN is just there to simplify the interpreter and compiler. It takes some getting used to. Many claim that infixed is more natural but it is clumsy. One has to come up with a bunch of rules to make work. A + B * C multiply B and C an then add A.