Re: Looking for Cobalt Qube cases

2020-06-11 Thread Laurens Vets via cctalk
Hey Ed, On 2020-05-27 21:03, ED SHARPE via cctech wrote: what are you dong with the cases? since  we  are keeping  a  cube  as  a  display  might  like   sow  extra  guts   for  backupEd#    SMECC In a message dated 5/27/2020 12:45:48 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org

Re: DS10 Alpha question = Sata Drive card?

2020-06-11 Thread Bob Smith via cctalk
Excellent data thank you Jason! bb On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 2:50 PM Jason Howe via cctalk wrote: > > > On 6/11/20 11:32 AM, Bob Smith via cctalk wrote: > > Correct. One of he BSDs or Linux > > bb > > > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 2:24 PM Zane Healy wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>> On Jun 11, 2020, at

Re: Looking for Cobalt Qube cases

2020-06-11 Thread Laurens Vets via cctalk
Hey Ed, On 2020-05-27 9:03 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: what are you dong with the cases? since  we  are keeping  a  cube  as  a  display  might  like   sow  extra  guts   for  backupEd#    SMECC In a message dated 5/27/2020 12:45:48 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org

Re: Malfunctioning VT240 - help please

2020-06-11 Thread Nigel Johnson via cctalk
One trick I found with the -5V if it is driven by  a charge pump: check the voltage. If it is being pulled down since the charge pump cannot supply the current, just disconnect the charge pump and put a lab supply in its place.  The increased current will clean out whatever is shorting it to

Re: Malfunctioning VT240 - help please

2020-06-11 Thread Charles via cctalk
On 6/11/20 3:15 PM, Mattis Lind wrote: The T11 is not halted - it's looping endlessly in the first ROM. There is a brief burst of DRAM select activity on the scope just before it hangs in the loop.  That burst of DRAM activity might indicate a DRAM problem. One thing I have tried in the

Re: Malfunctioning VT240 - help please

2020-06-11 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 2:37 PM Adrian Graham via cctalk wrote: > > The 4116's are soldered to the board, too > > You’ve just mentioned the magic 4116 word, I’d bet some of your dollars that > it’s either one of those that’s gone south or the -5V required to run them Definitely check the

Re: Malfunctioning VT240 - help please

2020-06-11 Thread Mattis Lind via cctalk
> The T11 is not halted - it's looping endlessly in the first ROM. There is > a brief burst of DRAM select activity on the scope just before it hangs in > the loop. > That burst of DRAM activity might indicate a DRAM problem. One thing I have tried in the past is to put a known good DRAM on top

Re: Duplicate messages

2020-06-11 Thread Richard Pope via cctalk
Johan, Yep! I do also! rich! On 6/11/2020 10:36 AM, Rick Bensene via cctalk wrote: Johan Helsingius wrote: Anyone else getting duplicate messages from this list? I get 2 copies of most (but not all) messages, with the second copy often arriving significantly later. I experience

Re: Malfunctioning VT240 - help please

2020-06-11 Thread Charles via cctalk
On 6/11/20 10:31 AM, Mattis Lind wrote: Now that you know the T11 is good I think it a good idea to attach a logic analyzer on the bus. I would then disassemble the ROM code and match that with the logic analyzer execution trace. Then it should be possible to find out

Re: DS10 Alpha question = Sata Drive card?

2020-06-11 Thread Jason Howe via cctalk
On 6/11/20 11:32 AM, Bob Smith via cctalk wrote: Correct. One of he BSDs or Linux bb On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 2:24 PM Zane Healy wrote: On Jun 11, 2020, at 11:19 AM, Bob Smith via cctalk wrote: Can anyone recommend a SATA card that will work with a DS10 Alpha, and which OS supports

Re: Malfunctioning VT240 - help please

2020-06-11 Thread Adrian Graham via cctalk
> On 11 Jun 2020, at 15:14, Charles via cctalk wrote: > > = > > Thanks for the tip. I didn't see in the manuals that the keyboard light > pattern was actually a binary code, but that makes sense! I would have > expected an error message on the screen, but as I previously noted, the

Re: DS10 Alpha question = Sata Drive card?

2020-06-11 Thread Bob Smith via cctalk
Correct. One of he BSDs or Linux bb On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 2:24 PM Zane Healy wrote: > > > > > On Jun 11, 2020, at 11:19 AM, Bob Smith via cctalk > > wrote: > > > > Can anyone recommend a SATA card that will work with a DS10 Alpha, and > > which OS supports that card? > > > > thanks > > bob

Re: Amiga Vendors?

2020-06-11 Thread ben via cctalk
On 6/11/2020 11:51 AM, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote: Indeed, newish computers are USB-only. And this means a layer or two of cruft which filters signal going between device and processor. Gamers know this, too, which is why they seem to prefer motherboards with ps/2 ports. And soon another

Re: DS10 Alpha question = Sata Drive card?

2020-06-11 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
> On Jun 11, 2020, at 11:19 AM, Bob Smith via cctalk > wrote: > > Can anyone recommend a SATA card that will work with a DS10 Alpha, and > which OS supports that card? > > thanks > bob I take it you’re trying to run something other than OpenVMS? Zane

DS10 Alpha question = Sata Drive card?

2020-06-11 Thread Bob Smith via cctalk
Can anyone recommend a SATA card that will work with a DS10 Alpha, and which OS supports that card? thanks bob

Re: TU58 dump tool on Linux? (Mattis Lind)

2020-06-11 Thread John Klos via cctalk
Is there anyone that has already built a tool to dump TU58-tapes on a Linux machine? I have the drive of course. There is PUTR. But it is DOS only and is written in assembler so it cannot be ported easily. The other option is running RT11 on a PDP-11, but then there is the hassle of getting the

Re: Amiga Vendors?

2020-06-11 Thread Tomasz Rola via cctalk
On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 03:58:24PM +0200, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 at 13:41, Jules Richardson via cctalk > wrote: > > > > The 4000T that I have was built in May of '96, and it amazes me that there > > was any kind of market for it in light of how widespread PCs on the

RE: Duplicate messages

2020-06-11 Thread Rick Bensene via cctalk
Johan Helsingius wrote: >Anyone else getting duplicate messages from this list? I get 2 copies of >most (but not all) messages, with the second copy often arriving >significantly later. I experience the same thing. -Rick

Compusad Compulogical Tutor User Manual Wanted

2020-06-11 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
I am looking for a PDF or actual copy of this manual: https://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/search/object/nmah_904547 Thanks Bill Degnan

Re: TU58 dump tool on Linux?

2020-06-11 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 8:18 AM Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote: > I don't have a TU58, but using nbdkit[1] or BUSE[2] (which seems to > hook up as a NBD device as well) it should be quite easy to make it > avaliable as a block device. For reading and writing, this should be > pretty straight forward. >

Re: Amiga Vendors?

2020-06-11 Thread alan--- via cctalk
You are glossing over the fact Amiga users are technically 3/5ths of a person by law. Unfortunate but that also means Amiga user's opinions are 3/5ths important by extension. International law is very clear on this. Sorry. :) -A On 2020-06-10 12:54, John Foust via cctalk wrote:

Re: Malfunctioning VT240 - help please

2020-06-11 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 06/11/2020 02:29 AM, Mattis Lind via cctalk wrote: If that would be the case I think the system would fail quite soon rather than on test 5. A guess is that this is a memory problem. Sure, once you call a subroutine and then try to return, corrupted memory would throw the processor into

Re: Malfunctioning VT240 - help please

2020-06-11 Thread Mattis Lind via cctalk
> > > > Now that you know the T11 is good I think it a good idea to attach a logic > analyzer on the bus. > > I would then disassemble the ROM code and match that with the logic > analyzer execution trace. Then it should be possible to find out what is > going on. If one can rely on the fault code

Re: TU58 dump tool on Linux?

2020-06-11 Thread Jan-Benedict Glaw via cctalk
On Wed, 2020-06-10 16:04:38 -0600, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote: [...] > A real TU58 drive hooked up to a system running Linux does not look > anything like a block device. Linux has no idea what it is; it's just > something hooked up to a serial port. To read tape blocks, it would be up > to a

Re: Malfunctioning VT240 - help please

2020-06-11 Thread Charles via cctalk
On 6/11/20 2:29 AM, Mattis Lind wrote: torsdag 11 juni 2020 skrev Charles via cctalk >: On 6/10/20 4:31 PM, Jon Elson wrote: On 06/10/2020 12:48 PM, Charles via cctalk wrote: That leaves the unlikely possibility that one of the

Re: Amiga Vendors?

2020-06-11 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 at 14:45, David Brownlee wrote: > > The big issue with the Hydra was its lack of cache coherency between > processors, which made conventional SMP somewhat... challenging. You > could do very cool multiprocessor stuff with it, just not in a > conventional SMP capable OS (I

Re: Amiga Vendors?

2020-06-11 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 at 13:41, Jules Richardson via cctalk wrote: > > The 4000T that I have was built in May of '96, and it amazes me that there > was any kind of market for it in light of how widespread PCs on the desktop > had become by that time. Agreed. VideoToasters might have been the main

Re: Amiga Vendors?

2020-06-11 Thread David Brownlee via cctalk
On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 at 11:58, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > There was also a 3rd party multiprocessor board, the Hydra from > Simtech, but the appearance of the DEC-designed StrongARM killed that > off -- one 200MHz StrongARM was performance competitive with half a > dozen ~25MHz ARM710

Re: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC

2020-06-11 Thread Eric Korpela via cctalk
I stand corrected. -- Eric Korpela korp...@ssl.berkeley.edu AST:7731^29u18e3

Re: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC

2020-06-11 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk
On Thu, 11 Jun 2020, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote: > GCC supports legacy Fortran code, so I have filed PR fortran/95631 to > track this bug, at: . > Let's see what emerges. So the response from GCC Fortran experts is as follows: "[...] Yes,

Re: Amiga Vendors?

2020-06-11 Thread Jules Richardson via cctalk
On 6/11/20 5:58 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 at 09:52, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote: I'd say the Amiga really lost its shine around 20 years ago, about the time Linux was getting serious and Windows 98 dominated the desktop. Unfortunately, yes, I think you're right.

Re: Amiga Vendors?

2020-06-11 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 at 09:52, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote: > > I'd say the Amiga really lost its shine around 20 years ago, about the > time Linux was getting serious and Windows 98 dominated the desktop. Unfortunately, yes, I think you're right. Ditto the Acorn RISC OS platform -- I know,

Re: Duplicate messages

2020-06-11 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
On 11-06-2020 11:35, Peter Coghlan via cctech wrote: > In my experience, the only way to avoid duplicates under the current setup > is to subscribe to the cctalk view of the list and to have everyone post > only to cctalk. I think many others have worked this out too because very > few of us

Re: Duplicate messages

2020-06-11 Thread Lawrence Wilkinson via cctalk
I think you might be subscribed to both cctalk and cctech. So you get the cctalk message immediately, and the cctech one when it's moderated. At the moment the lists are largely the same since everyone is good at not posting off-topic stuff. On 11/06/20 11:01 am, Johan Helsingius via cctech

Re: Duplicate messages

2020-06-11 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
> Hi! > > Anyone else getting duplicate messages from this list? I get 2 copies of > most (but not all) messages, with the second copy often arriving > significantly later. > > Julf > In my experience, the only way to avoid duplicates under the current setup is to subscribe to the

Duplicate messages

2020-06-11 Thread Johan Helsingius via cctalk
Hi! Anyone else getting duplicate messages from this list? I get 2 copies of most (but not all) messages, with the second copy often arriving significantly later. Julf

Re: Amiga Vendors?

2020-06-11 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 12:08 AM Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: > What I’m referring too is that in the US the Amiga hasn’t been a viable > commercial platform for nearly 30 years. I was using my A3000 every day through 1997, and only stopped because I got a sweet deal on an A4000 in NZ and

Re: Amiga Vendors?

2020-06-11 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 12:04 AM Zane Healy wrote: > > On Jun 10, 2020, at 12:45 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote: > > I still have a load of GG2 Bus+ boards I need to test and bag... > > I was wondering if you were still had GG2 Bus+ Boards, like you did 20 years > ago. I probably have a lifetime supply

Re: Malfunctioning VT240 - help please

2020-06-11 Thread Mattis Lind via cctalk
torsdag 11 juni 2020 skrev Charles via cctalk : > > On 6/10/20 4:31 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > >> On 06/10/2020 12:48 PM, Charles via cctalk wrote: >> >>> >>> That leaves the unlikely possibility that one of the octal TTL devices, >>> or ROMs. has developed a weird internal pathway that only