On 10/7/20 7:43 PM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote:
I don't remember Guardian, but I do remember CC:Remote. It did use an
interface system it would call and copy down the person's mailbox file
as a weird sub-mailbox. I mean it worked, but it was a pain.
Ya. Any time you try to have a local /
See my reply at 6:13 for comments about cc:Guardian / IMAP / POP3.
I don't remember Guardian, but I do remember CC:Remote. It did use an
interface system it would call and copy down the person's mailbox file
as a weird sub-mailbox. I mean it worked, but it was a pain.
The other fun email
On 10/7/20 6:57 PM, Tomas By wrote:
Well, both? According to the "about" window in the client on the 200LX,
it is indeed "cc:Mail mobile", but I believe I also need to set up a
"normal" post office. (The 200LX manual does not say anything specific
about versions.)
I'm betting that there's a
On Thu, 08 Oct 2020 02:13:22 +0200, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
> I've done some more reading on cc:Mail. It seems that you're talking
> about cc:Mail /Mobile/, and not cc:Mail (proper).
Well, both? According to the "about" window in the client on the
200LX, it is indeed "cc:Mail mobile", but
On 10/7/20 5:50 PM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote:
CC:Mail could run in two ways. For the longest time it was just a shared
file on a network server that all the clients pointed to. Well, a
directory, and this is part of the reason it got corrupted as hell.
Rebuilding CC:Mail usually required
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 7:29 PM Paul Koning via cctalk
wrote:
> The sculpture skeleton also still exists, quite amazingly.
Seems to be doing even better than that...
http://senster.agh.edu.pl/
> On Oct 7, 2020, at 8:05 PM, Adrian Stoness via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> cool collection nice to see a honeywell h316 in minty shape.
>
> still never ever seen any phillips around witch also did a rebadge of the
> h316 in red
Was that the P9200? I remember the one at the Evoluon in
cool collection nice to see a honeywell h316 in minty shape.
still never ever seen any phillips around witch also did a rebadge of the
h316 in red
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 4:59 PM Van Snyder via cctalk
wrote:
> On Wed, 2020-10-07 at 13:14 -0500, Cindy Croxton via cctalk wrote:
> > I received
On 10/7/20 2:10 PM, Tomas By wrote:
Well, we are talking past each other. When I say client/server I
mean the connection over serial port/modem between the mobile client,
not on the same LAN as the PO, and the PO.
You've piqued my interest.
I've done some more reading on cc:Mail. It seems
CC:Mail could run in two ways. For the longest time it was just a shared
file on a network server that all the clients pointed to. Well, a
directory, and this is part of the reason it got corrupted as hell.
Rebuilding CC:Mail usually required shutting down the PO (writing a file
that told the
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 7:32 PM Peter Coghlan via cctalk
wrote:
> Ethan Dicks wrote:
> > There are no implementations of sync serial devices in Simh. That
> > would have to be written in any case. The DU11 and DUV11 are very
> > simple PIO serial lines with, IIRC, a COM5025 USART...
>
> This is
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 6:26 PM Dennis Boone via cctalk
wrote:
> Folks seem to be mostly going at hardware here, but the o.p. indicated
> emulation.
Indeed. I brought up real hardware because that is the foundation of
my knowledge of RJE but I wasn't intending to propose that as a
solution.
Ethan Dicks wrote:
>
> There are no implementations of sync serial devices in Simh. That
> would have to be written in any case. The DU11 and DUV11 are very
> simple PIO serial lines with, IIRC, a COM5025 USART. It would not be
> a huge undertaking to write up a module to emulate one and
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 5:56 PM Bob Smith wrote:
> Sig 2652 is an alternative to the 5025. 5025 is based on the DP11 MSI
> design by Frank Zereski at dec, the 26t2 is based on my design for the
> DMC/KMC line units that could run DDCM{< BiSync-ADDCP-BDLC
Good to know about both of those chips. I
Well, the solution is simple: Build a UNibus to USB interface so SIMH
can use the physical devices properly. That can't be too hard...
C
On 10/7/2020 6:26 PM, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote:
Folks seem to be mostly going at hardware here, but the o.p. indicated
emulation. I'll point out,
So far, two people have asked for "Varian Data 620/i Systems Computer
Manual."
So that I don't have to decide who gets it, I've put it on EBay for a7-
day auction with a starting bid of $0.99.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/224184671124 id="-x-evo-selection-start-marker">
Van
On Wed, 2020-10-07 at 15:39 +1000, Steve Malikoff via cctalk wrote:
> Van said
> > In about 1974, for my senior undergraduate project, I wrote
> > microcodeto convince a Varian V70 that it was actually an IBM 1130.
> > Being substantially more modern hardware, it was much faster than
> > areal
Folks seem to be mostly going at hardware here, but the o.p. indicated
emulation. I'll point out, since I haven't seen mention of it, that
Kevin Jordan's Nostalgic Computing Center has many of its emulated
systems linked via RJE - the Cybers, the Primes, and the VM/CMS machine
at least.
On Wed, 2020-10-07 at 13:14 -0500, Cindy Croxton via cctalk wrote:
> I received permission to share this link. These are in a personal
> collection in Finland. Don't drool too hard :-)
> https://imgur.com/gallery/7TKl5YH
I visited Haus zur Geschichte der IBM Datenverarbeitung (House of the
Sig 2652 is an alternative to the 5025. 5025 is based on the DP11 MSI
design by Frank Zereski at dec, the 26t2 is based on my design for the
DMC/KMC line units that could run DDCM{< BiSync-ADDCP-BDLC
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 5:04 PM Ethan Dicks via cctalk
wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 4:49 PM
On Wed, 07 Oct 2020 22:28:19 +0200, Gavin Scott via cctalk wrote:
> P.S. As far as I can recall I never connected my 200LX up to our
> cc:Mail even though I carried a 95/100/200 around with me pretty much
> all the time in those days.
I never had a cc:Mail account, but I used the 200LX client
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 4:49 PM Al Kossow via cctalk
wrote:
> On 10/7/20 1:39 PM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote:
>
> > Synchronous serial lines are not typically a feature in the sort of
> > machines people are likely to be running something like Simh on,
> > especially laptops. I'm sure there
On 10/7/20 2:10 PM, Tomas By wrote:
Well, we are talking past each other.
That's entirely possible. That's why I elaborated on what I meant,
explicitly to give you an opportunity to confirm or refute.
When I say client/server I mean the connection over serial port/modem
between the mobile
On 10/7/20 1:48 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
On 10/7/20 1:39 PM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote:
Synchronous serial lines are not typically a feature in the sort of
machines people are likely to be running something like Simh on,
especially laptops. I'm sure there were Sync serial cards for
On 10/7/20 1:39 PM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote:
Synchronous serial lines are not typically a feature in the sort of
machines people are likely to be running something like Simh on,
especially laptops. I'm sure there were Sync serial cards for ISA but
probably not anything more recent.
you
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 4:19 PM Peter Coghlan via cctalk
wrote:
> > I am looking for the following software products for a PDP-11, ideally to
> > be run on RSX-11M.
> >
> > RJE/HASP
> > 2780/3780 Protocol Emulator
> >
> > My aim is to be able to submit a remote job from a simulated PDP-11 on simh
P.S. As far as I can recall I never connected my 200LX up to our
cc:Mail even though I carried a 95/100/200 around with me pretty much
all the time in those days.
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 3:13 PM Gavin Scott wrote:
>
> My recollection of the cc:Mail SMTP Gateway (that now sounds like the
> right
> Hi folks,
>
> I am looking for the following software products for a PDP-11, ideally to
> be run on RSX-11M.
>
> RJE/HASP
>
> 2780/3780 Protocol Emulator
>
> My aim is to be able to submit a remote job from a simulated PDP-11 on simh
> to a simulated IBM/370 on Hercules. The products that
My recollection of the cc:Mail SMTP Gateway (that now sounds like the
right name to me) was that it was definitely bidirectional with
respect to SMTP/internet traffic. There were differences in that
inbound and outbound processing were rather different internally IIRC,
but that was pretty much
On Wed, 07 Oct 2020 21:57:28 +0200, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
> I think that we have different understandings of what the Post Office
> is in older email systems. [...]
Well, we are talking past each other. When I say client/server I mean
the connection over serial port/modem between the
On 10/7/20 1:57 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
I don't see how you can avoid the P.O.'s file / directory structure.
This isn't the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
I can see a hypothetical case where a program could leverage something
like a Filesystem in User SpacE (a.k.a. FUSE)
"However, once it reaches the Timing Error Skip Instruction and Logic
Test, it fails with the following:
> TIMING ERROR SKIP INSTRUCTION AND LOGIC
> TIMING ERROR STATUS BIT NOT SET IN COMMAND REGISTER
>
> TIMING ERROR DOES NOT CLEAR WRITE FLIP/FLOP "
If at this point it is doing a wrap-around
On 10/7/20 1:46 PM, Tomas By wrote:
Well, theoretically, you could have another program that emulates
the PO server side.
I think that we have different understandings of what the Post Office is
in older email systems.
To me, the Post Office, is a collection of files that live in a
On Wed, 07 Oct 2020 21:35:13 +0200, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
> I don't see how that would work. If all the client knows how to do is
> talk to a cc:Mail Post Office, then I think the Post Office is going
> to be /required/.
Well, theoretically, you could have another program that emulates
So far, two people have asked for "Programming HP 21MX Computers."
So that I don't have to decide who gets it, I've put it on EBay for a
7-day auction with a starting bid of $0.99.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/224184669206
It has a cheap "perfect" binding, and it's 3-hold punched, so it could
be
On 10/7/20 1:17 PM, Tomas By wrote:
Well, in theory it could possibly be directly between 200LX and
Internet, without any PO, but realistically: yes.
I don't see how that would work. If all the client knows how to do is
talk to a cc:Mail Post Office, then I think the Post Office is going to
On 10/7/20 12:55 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
I'll take a look in my pile of Lotus disks.
Much of what I have is more Notes / Domino specific. But I do have a
cc:Mail documentation CD-ROM that's from '95.
Email me directly if you want to know more details about what's on it or
to
On Wed, 07 Oct 2020 20:55:23 +0200, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
> Translation / regurgitation: You're wondering about the possibility
> of connecting a cc:Mail Post Office to the Internet email
> (SMTP/POP3/IMAP) ecosystem somehow. Is that correct?
Well, in theory it could possibly be
On 10/7/20 8:45 AM, Tomas By via cctalk wrote:
the cc:Mail PO would need to periodically (ie constantly) check for
new mail from the provider, and collect it.
/Something/ needs to periodically check for new mail from the provider.
I don't think that it needs to necessarily be the cc:Mail PO.
Back in the 1990s, a company I used to work for offered email services
to people running cc:Mail, Lotus Notes, MSMAIL, Pegasus Mail and various
other oddball mail servers (X.400 even) using PMDF on VMS. PMDF is still
a commercial product but a hobbyist license is available. PMDF is also
On 10/7/20 8:03 AM, Tomas By via cctalk wrote:
Am wondering about the possibility of setting up an interface between
modern Unix email and the embedded client for cc:Mail on the HP 200LX.
Translation / regurgitation: You're wondering about the possibility of
connecting a cc:Mail Post Office
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They really need donations so they can get going again. Can anyone help?
--
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Electronics Plus
1613 Water Street
Kerrville, TX 78028
830-370-3239 direct
What a lovely collection of IBM 1800 systems!
From: "cctalk"
To: "cctalk"
Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 11:27:02 AM
Subject: Re: Old mainframes in Finland
On 07.10.20 20:14, Cindy Croxton via cctalk wrote:
> I received permission to share this link. These are in a personal collection
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 11:04 AM Paul Koning wrote:
>
> > On Oct 7, 2020, at 12:06 PM, Glen Slick via cctalk
> > wrote:
> >
> > ...
> > I was curious about this DEC M8704 DMS11-DA that sold cheap a few days
> > ago. It has eight SMC COM5025 "Multi-Protocol Universal Synchronous
> >
On 07.10.20 20:14, Cindy Croxton via cctalk wrote:
I received permission to share this link. These are in a personal collection in
Finland. Don't drool too hard :-)
That is Johannes Thelens' collection, located not all that far fom Helsinki.
Johannes has very kindly showed me around his
On 07.10.20 20:14, Cindy Croxton via cctalk wrote:
I received permission to share this link. These are in a personal collection in
Finland. Don't drool too hard :-)
That is Johannes Thelens' collection, located not all that far fom Helsinki.
Johannes has very kindly showed me around his
So I was thinking of the Handheld systems stuff here.
/Tomas
On Wed, 07 Oct 2020 16:23:49 +0200, Tomas By via cctalk wrote:
>
> On Wed, 07 Oct 2020 16:18:15 +0200, wrote:
> > Would then not be on MSDN cds from around that time?
>
>
> I don't think so. I did spend some effort to locate on
I received permission to share this link. These are in a personal
collection in Finland. Don't drool too hard :-)
https://imgur.com/gallery/7TKl5YH
--
Cindy Croxton
Electronics Plus
1613 Water Street
Kerrville, TX 78028
830-370-3239 direct
> On Oct 7, 2020, at 11:00 AM, Ethan Dicks wrote:
>
> ...
>
>> At least in the 2780 emulation case, where BISYNC protocol handling is in
>> software and the serial ports just are raw byte pipes.
>
> Yes, Bisync is just a stream of raw bytes, but ISTR the COM5025 (the
> common 1970s USART
> On Oct 7, 2020, at 12:06 PM, Glen Slick via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> ...
> I was curious about this DEC M8704 DMS11-DA that sold cheap a few days
> ago. It has eight SMC COM5025 "Multi-Protocol Universal Synchronous
> Receiver/Transmitter USYNR/T" chips:
>
>
Interesting. I think these came from that E-COM US Postal Service thing
in the late 1980's where the USPS built a pilot system to allow you to
go into a post office, give them a letter, then they would scan the
letter, route it through a network of pdp11's to the destination PO
where it was
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 1:50 PM Al Kossow via cctalk
wrote:
> On 10/7/20 10:32 AM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote:
>
> > Using a KMC11 is similar
>
> Other than the KMC being a Unibus bandwidth hog.
Similar in principle, not in implementation.
COMBOARDs were quite well behaved. The DMA engine was
For those that might want to look at the roots, there are a few
references at the bottom of this page to IBM Bisync docs.
http://www.3780-emulation.com/3780-emulation-bisync-protocol.htm
The other publication which really contains the meat of Bisync is the
manual for the Data 100 2780/3780
On 10/07/2020 11:11 AM Chris Zach via cctalk wrote:
has a Z80A SIO, DMA, DMA,DMA, CPU,and a CTC whatever that was. Three
CTC is a Counter Timer Circuit -- Two(?) sixteen bit timers with various modes
and input/output options.
On 10/7/20 10:32 AM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote:
Using a KMC11 is similar
Other than the KMC being a Unibus bandwidth hog.
On Wed, 07 Oct 2020 18:55:40 +0200, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> https://www.pcjs.org/documents/books/mspl13/c/
For the record, the CD is available here:
https://archive.org/details/MicrosoftProgramersLibraryV1.3
In case you don't trust web sites to still be there after you look
away for a
On 10/7/2020 10:32 AM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote:
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 12:07 PM Glen Slick via cctalk
wrote:
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 8:37 AM Ethan Dicks wrote:
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 5:07 AM Peter Allan wrote:
RJE/HASP
2780/3780 Protocol Emulator
I used to do this with specialty
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 12:07 PM Glen Slick via cctalk
wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 8:37 AM Ethan Dicks wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 5:07 AM Peter Allan wrote:
> > > RJE/HASP
> > > 2780/3780 Protocol Emulator
> >
> > I used to do this with specialty hardware...
> >
> >
On 10/7/20 9:56 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
On 10/7/20 6:56 AM, Tomas By via cctalk wrote:
Hi again,
Am also looking for the manuals for Microsoft C 6.0, preferably in a
digital format.
/Tomas
Looks like 6.0 ca. 1990 as their first ANSI C compiler?
MSC 6.0 review
On Wed, 07 Oct 2020 18:55:40 +0200, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> https://www.pcjs.org/documents/books/mspl13/c/
Thank you.
/Tomas
On 10/7/20 9:56 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
On 10/7/20 6:56 AM, Tomas By via cctalk wrote:
Hi again,
Am also looking for the manuals for Microsoft C 6.0, preferably in a
digital format.
/Tomas
Looks like 6.0 ca. 1990 as their first ANSI C compiler?
Did anyone ever turn up the driver
On 10/7/20 6:56 AM, Tomas By via cctalk wrote:
Hi again,
Am also looking for the manuals for Microsoft C 6.0, preferably in a
digital format.
/Tomas
Looks like 6.0 ca. 1990 as their first ANSI C compiler?
On 10/7/20 6:56 AM, Tomas By via cctalk wrote:
Hi again,
Am also looking for the manuals for Microsoft C 6.0, preferably in a
digital format.
/Tomas
https://www.pcjs.org/documents/books/mspl13/c/
Visual Studio is a different product than "Microsoft Optimizing C
Compiler". There MIGHT have been Quick C or Visual C included with
the C compiler
Earlier versions were rebranded Lattice.
The manuals were massive.
We got a great deal ($75?? instead of several hundred$), and ordered half
a
On 10/7/20 9:36 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
On 10/7/20 8:29 AM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote:
That sounds like it, and I might have been the one to upload the drivers. Let
me find one in the shed and take a picture.
https://pubs.usgs.gov/of/1988/0185/report.pdf
On 10/7/20 8:29 AM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote:
That sounds like it, and I might have been the one to upload the drivers. Let
me find one in the shed and take a picture.
https://pubs.usgs.gov/of/1988/0185/report.pdf
https://pubs.usgs.gov/of/1991/0262/report.pdf
from Larry Baker
they
On Oct 7, 2020, at 8:29, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
>
> On 10/7/20 7:23 AM, Tomas By via cctalk wrote:
>> On Wed, 07 Oct 2020 16:18:15 +0200, wrote:
>>> Would then not be on MSDN cds from around that time?
>>
>>
>> I don't think so. I did spend some effort to locate on of those that I
>>
Hi,
Well, I may not need all of it. Am just looking for the basic compiler
manuals, it should be three-four not too thick volumes. I have one of
them in hardcopy but cannot find it.
I wish you could instantly & costlessly shift your collection over to
archive.org
/Tomas
On Wed, 07 Oct 2020
Looking at my stash of 5.25" floppies, I have C 4.0, 5.0 and 6. I think
the 32-bit VC++ came in with 7.0. which would account for the explosion
in paper (Class libraries, etc.).
6.0 looks to be pretty straightforward and includes libraries and
Workbench for OS/2 as well. Unless I've misplaced
On Wed, 7 Oct 2020, Bjoren Davis via cctalk wrote:
I have a retail boxed set "Microsoft Visual Studio 6.0 Professional Edition
Upgrade" (P/N 659-00145).
Visual Studio 6 is vastly different than Microsoft C v6.0. MSC is pretty
much DOS only, with maybe some early windows or OS/2 stuff in
Hi,
I don't think this is the same product?
The one I mean is from 1990, I believe.
/Tomas
On Wed, 07 Oct 2020 17:42:56 +0200, Bjoren Davis via cctalk wrote:
> I have a retail boxed set "Microsoft Visual Studio 6.0 Professional
> Edition Upgrade" (P/N 659-00145).
>
> It's stuffed with CDs,
Ok, here are pics of three of them that I dug out. Ring any bells?
https://i.imgur.com/YZ4pUtY.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/QcHbkjY.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/i68mtFW.jpg
Not as cool as the Chaosnet boards, but still interesting. Each board
has a Z80A SIO, DMA, DMA,DMA, CPU,and a CTC whatever that
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 8:37 AM Ethan Dicks via cctalk
wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 5:07 AM Peter Allan via cctalk
> wrote:
> > I am looking for the following software products for a PDP-11, ideally to
> > be run on RSX-11M.
> >
> > RJE/HASP
> > 2780/3780 Protocol Emulator
>
> I used to do
Oh this brings back memories. Back in the 1980's I worked with
Westinghouse/IRD and we used CC:Mail. When we partnered with Macro
systems we tied the two together using a CC:Mail gateway package that
ran over dialup modems.
Moving into the 90's, the IEEE Computer Society was on CC:Mail in
I think there was a gateway associated with one of the free mail severs...
... some of Lotus docs are still here
ftp://ftp.www.ibm.com/software/lotus/comm/ccmail/dev_tools/
Dave
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk On Behalf Of Gavin Scott via
> cctalk
> Sent: 07 October 2020 16:22
>
Hi,
Yes, this sounds plausible. You don't happen to remember if it was
a Lotus/cc:Mail or a third party product?
I managed something like this for MS mail at one point.
/Tomas
On Wed, 07 Oct 2020 17:22:27 +0200, Gavin Scott wrote:
> These may all be dead short-circuited neurons, but IIRC
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 11:29 AM Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On 10/7/20 7:23 AM, Tomas By via cctalk wrote:
> > On Wed, 07 Oct 2020 16:18:15 +0200, wrote:
> >> Would then not be on MSDN cds from around that time?
> >
> >
> > I don't think so. I did spend some effort
Yes, for VS6, all of the docs were on two or three CDs that were installed
separately. I think it was called the "MSDN Library".
On 10/7/20, 11:43 AM, "cctalk on behalf of Bjoren Davis via cctalk"
wrote:
I have a retail boxed set "Microsoft Visual Studio 6.0 Professional
Edition
I have a retail boxed set "Microsoft Visual Studio 6.0 Professional
Edition Upgrade" (P/N 659-00145).
It's stuffed with CDs, some of which I seem to remember were sent to me
after I mailed in some coupons.
There's not much paper documentation -- a "Microsoft Visual Studio
Resource Guide",
I have PDFs of C 4.0 and C 5.0, both of which were included in a load of
"Windows 1" stuff I had which included the Platform SDK manuals. If you want
them, contact me off-list.
Rich
On 10/7/20, 11:29 AM, "cctalk on behalf of Chuck Guzis via cctalk"
wrote:
On 10/7/20 7:23 AM, Tomas By
That sounds like it, and I might have been the one to upload the
drivers. Let me find one in the shed and take a picture.
C
On 10/7/2020 10:44 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
On 10/7/20 6:46 AM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote:
I do have a bunch of Unibus 3270/X.25 boards from a third party
On 10/7/20 7:23 AM, Tomas By via cctalk wrote:
> On Wed, 07 Oct 2020 16:18:15 +0200, wrote:
>> Would then not be on MSDN cds from around that time?
>
>
> I don't think so. I did spend some effort to locate on of those that I
> had some reference to, but it turned out to be nothing. (And I have
These may all be dead short-circuited neurons, but IIRC there was a
cc:Mail Gateway or Internet Gateway special product you needed to buy
that would run on a dedicated PC box (under DOS?) and would talk in
turn to your cc:Mail post office server and the 'net to exchange email
messages in and out.
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 10:14 AM Jay Jaeger via cctalk
wrote:
> I remembered reading a man page for 2780/3780 emulation under UNIX back
> in the day (turns out it was for AT PWB UNIX), and found it:
>
> http://quintile.net/pwb/rje_guide.pdfManual
>
> Code seems to exist in
>
>
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 9:46 AM Chris Zach via cctalk
wrote:
> I do have a bunch of Unibus 3270/X.25 boards from a third party vendor.
> Big big boards with a bunch of Z80's on them to do all the protocol
> work. Anyone interested in me digging them out and figuring out what
> they were?
Do you
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 10:20 AM Paul Koning via cctalk
wrote:
> >> On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 5:07 AM Peter Allan via cctalk
> >> wrote:
> >>> I am looking for the following software products for a PDP-11, ideally to
> >>> be run on RSX-11M.
> >>>
> >>> RJE/HASP
> >>> 2780/3780 Protocol Emulator
>
Hi again,
I think sending out is already covered, the problematic bit is that
for this to work in the modern "ecosystem", the cc:Mail PO would need
to periodically (ie constantly) check for new mail from the provider,
and collect it.
There are probably other things I am missing also.
/Tomas
On 10/7/20 6:46 AM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote:
I do have a bunch of Unibus 3270/X.25 boards from a third party vendor.
ACC (Advanced Computer Communications)?
If you can find it, the PDP-11 RJE product was released to DECUS
I have it on fiche, but that would be tedious to reconstruct.
I
Tomas
I think that is possible. I am sure the code I wrote, in nasty VB6 would
listen for an SMTP connection and then forward it VIM and then to the
internet. I will go and have a look.
Dave
> -Original Message-
> From: Tomas By
> Sent: 07 October 2020 15:29
> To: dave.g4...@gmail.com
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Hi,
Yes, I did find documents on VIM, but there is also the API to the PO
to consider.
In the Lotus cc:Mail developer kit, do you think there is enough stuff
to put together a "reverse client" -- an app that gets mail from a
modern email provider using POP/IMAP/whatever it is?
/Tomas
On Wed,
On Wed, 07 Oct 2020 16:18:15 +0200, wrote:
> Would then not be on MSDN cds from around that time?
I don't think so. I did spend some effort to locate on of those that I
had some reference to, but it turned out to be nothing. (And I have
checked at least ten MSDN CDs for this material.)
There
> On Oct 7, 2020, at 10:14 AM, Jay Jaeger via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On 10/7/2020 8:41 AM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 5:07 AM Peter Allan via cctalk
>> wrote:
>>> I am looking for the following software products for a PDP-11, ideally to
>>> be run on RSX-11M.
>>>
Would then not be on MSDN cds from around that time?
Dave
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> Sent: 07 October 2020 14:56
> To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
> Subject: Microsoft C 6.0 manuals
>
> Hi again,
>
> Am also looking for the manuals for Microsoft
Thomas,
This API connection for cc:mail is Lotus VIM, vendor independent mail except
only lotus every implemented it. Somewhere I had some code that would
interface to VIM but I have no idea where it is now.
I think it listened for a local SMTP connection and then sent it via
cc:mail. I think the
On 10/7/2020 8:41 AM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 5:07 AM Peter Allan via cctalk
> wrote:
>> I am looking for the following software products for a PDP-11, ideally to
>> be run on RSX-11M.
>>
>> RJE/HASP
>> 2780/3780 Protocol Emulator
>
> I used to do this with
And one more thing,
Am wondering about the possibility of setting up an interface between
modern Unix email and the embedded client for cc:Mail on the HP 200LX.
Various versions of cc:Mail are available from archive.org and
vetusware.com, but the missing link seems to be the "client" type
Hi again,
Am also looking for the manuals for Microsoft C 6.0, preferably in a
digital format.
/Tomas
Hi all,
Am wondering if anybody knows how to find a copy of the "Handheld
Systems Archives CD-ROM" that was sold through the domain cdpubs.com
20-30 ywars ago.
/Tomas
I do have a bunch of Unibus 3270/X.25 boards from a third party vendor.
Big big boards with a bunch of Z80's on them to do all the protocol
work. Anyone interested in me digging them out and figuring out what
they were?
On 10/7/2020 9:41 AM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote:
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 5:07 AM Peter Allan via cctalk
wrote:
> I am looking for the following software products for a PDP-11, ideally to
> be run on RSX-11M.
>
> RJE/HASP
> 2780/3780 Protocol Emulator
I used to do this with specialty hardware...
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