Re: when was memory "above" the terminal screen invented?

2020-12-13 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
IIRC, there were block-mode terminals with several pages of memory. --Chuck

Re: when was memory "above" the terminal screen invented?

2020-12-13 Thread Frank McConnell via cctalk
On Dec 13, 2020, at 18:37, Stan Sieler wrote: > > Hi, > > First, apologies if I asked this years ago (I've searched my archives, no > hits :) > > When was the concept of memory "above" the screen invented for terminals? > > I.e., previously displayed data that had scrolled up and off the

RE: Ok, Perqs are stowed away

2020-12-13 Thread Rick Bensene via cctalk
On the Classic Computer Mailing list, you wrote: > Anyone need more of these Sun3/4 VME boards? Need to make more space. Hi, Chris, I didn't see the boards...which photo(s) are they in? I have a Sun 4 server system, and there are some boards I've been looking for. If I could see what

Re: when was memory "above" the terminal screen invented?

2020-12-13 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Sun, Dec 13, 2020, 7:49 PM Nigel Johnson via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > I'm pretty sure the DEC VT100 didn't have it. It was very memory > -limited - the standard was 80x 24 and if you wanted 132 x 24 you had to > buy the advanced video option. > I'm sure it did not have scroll

Re: when was memory "above" the terminal screen invented?

2020-12-13 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
DIDN't the datapoint 3300 have that? On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 9:49 PM Nigel Johnson via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > I'm pretty sure the DEC VT100 didn't have it. It was very memory > -limited - the standard was 80x 24 and if you wanted 132 x 24 you had to > buy the advanced video

Re: when was memory "above" the terminal screen invented?

2020-12-13 Thread Nigel Johnson via cctalk
I'm pretty sure the DEC VT100 didn't have it.  It was very memory -limited - the standard was 80x 24 and if you wanted 132 x 24 you had to buy the advanced video option. There was a demo program that made it look like it recovered data that had been scrolled off the top of the screen, but I think

when was memory "above" the terminal screen invented?

2020-12-13 Thread Stan Sieler via cctalk
Hi, First, apologies if I asked this years ago (I've searched my archives, no hits :) When was the concept of memory "above" the screen invented for terminals? I.e., previously displayed data that had scrolled up and off the screen ... but could be retrieved (usually by scrolling down).

Re: Ok, Perqs are stowed away

2020-12-13 Thread Adrian Stoness via cctalk
good job On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 4:29 PM Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: > 1 Perq 1, one chassis without motherboards of another Perq1, sides, > lids, 1.5 sets of ends, pair of Perq2 endpanels, two keyboards (1 and 2 > style) and a portrait monitor. > > Pictures of all the stuff at

Ok, Perqs are stowed away

2020-12-13 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
1 Perq 1, one chassis without motherboards of another Perq1, sides, lids, 1.5 sets of ends, pair of Perq2 endpanels, two keyboards (1 and 2 style) and a portrait monitor. Pictures of all the stuff at https://www.crystel.com/bob/perq4 Not many pictures of this stuff from all angles, so feel

Perkins-Elmer 3600 and PETOS

2020-12-13 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
Does anyone know anything much about this early desktop computer and its OS? Example: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Perkin-Elmer-3600-PETOS-Like-Microsoft-BASIC-Computer-6800-CPU-Works-/303540134722 Although it predated the PC, MS supplied the BASIC and apparently the CLI resembles early DOS. I ask

Re: Ouch, but 2 Perqs out.

2020-12-13 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
After removing the above, you can remove the floppy drive (the normal 3 cable to an 8" drive and I think 3 screws) and the power supply (under the floppy drive, there are 3 output cables with in-line plugs and sockets, an IEC type main input on the back of the PSU chassis, and 2 screws at the

Re: Ouch, but 2 Perqs out.

2020-12-13 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Looks like an HP-1000 E-Series 2109 or 2113 sitting on top of the Perq box. Yes. I don't know much about the HP series computers. So I should take it up the steps (is it heavy?), and is it historical like the Perqs? C

RE: Ouch, but 2 Perqs out.

2020-12-13 Thread Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk
There might be info here http://sw.ccs.bcs.org/iclarch/ You don't have mini DAO?? https://www.computerconservationsociety.org/wg-mildap.htm Dave G4UGM > -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Chris Zach via > cctalk > Sent: 12 December 2020 22:57 > To: CCTalk mailing list >