Re: Sun-2 and Sun-3 mice (eBay)

2021-10-28 Thread Malte Dehling via cctalk


Hi,

On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 05:00:26PM -0400, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 10:00 AM Alan Perry  wrote:
> > Aside from the posts on the side of the connector, what is unique about the 
> > cable and connector? What’s the deal with those posts? Aside from them, it 
> > looks like a 6P4C with only three leads connected.
> 
> AFAIK, the posts are there so you don't plug your mouse into a phone
> jack or a modem port.  There are cutouts on the back of the Sun3
> keyboard to admit that connector.
> 
> One could almost certainly start with a 6P4C cable and fix up the
> mouse end and re-use a Sun4 mouse, but for show/display purposes, it
> would be clearly a substitute.

I am using a MiniDIN-8(F) to 6P4C (without those posts) cable I made to
connect a type 4 mouse to my type 3 keyboard.  Works perfectly.  I think
I found the pinouts for type 3 and type 4 mice in the SUN Hardware
Reference?  If anyone has trouble figuring it out I can measure the
connections on my adapter and post them.

Cheers,

-- 
Malte Dehling



Re: Sun-2 and Sun-3 mice (eBay)

2021-10-28 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 10:00 AM Alan Perry  wrote:
> Aside from the posts on the side of the connector, what is unique about the 
> cable and connector? What’s the deal with those posts? Aside from them, it 
> looks like a 6P4C with only three leads connected.

AFAIK, the posts are there so you don't plug your mouse into a phone
jack or a modem port.  There are cutouts on the back of the Sun3
keyboard to admit that connector.

One could almost certainly start with a 6P4C cable and fix up the
mouse end and re-use a Sun4 mouse, but for show/display purposes, it
would be clearly a substitute.

That's why my original plan for home use was to make a Sun4 keyboard
cable adapter - if it's just me, I can use a newer keyboard/mouse.

-ethan


Re: Sun-2 and Sun-3 mice (eBay)

2021-10-28 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 4:46 PM Ethan Dicks  wrote:
>
> Hi, Tom,
>
> Thanks!

That was supposed to be off-list and I even checked recipients... :-(

-ethan


Re: Sun-2 and Sun-3 mice (eBay)

2021-10-28 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
Hi, Tom,

Thanks!

Yes.  Sun3 mouse has RJ-11ish connector.  It plugs into the keyboard which
has a DA15 for the host.  Totally different plugs from Sun4 and later.

Ethan Dicks
2447 N. 4th St.
Columbus OH 43202




On Wed, Oct 27, 2021, 01:09 Tom Uban via cctalk 
wrote:

> Located. It was actually sold for Prime Computer and is black, but is new
> in box with pad.
> Mouse Systems MSC 401162-019/B with the 6 pin RJ11ish connector that I
> believe was used on Sun3 systems.
> Let me know you address if you are interested.
>
> --tom
>
> On 10/26/21 9:45 AM, Ethan Dicks via cctech wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 2:43 AM r.stricklin via cctech
> >  wrote:
> >>
> https://www.ebay.com/sch/xi_jinping/m.html?item=334195034340=item4dcf9388e4%3Ag%3Ar%7EcAAOSwFVhhd12t=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562
> >>
> >> Hadn't realized before that there were Sun-2 mice which weren't black
> (were white/beige). I know some folks are looking.
> > I am in need of a Sun3 mouse but that one looks like it got pulled out
> > from under the porch.
> >
> > -etha
>
>


Re: Sun-2 and Sun-3 mice (eBay)

2021-10-28 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk



> On Oct 26, 2021, at 15:16, Ethan Dicks  wrote:
> 
> That's an easy and expected fix.  What would be entirely uncool, and
> was the reason I didn't drop $65 incl postage on it, is if the cable
> had damage to it.  That's the part that's unique to the Sun3, the
> cable and connector.

Aside from the posts on the side of the connector, what is unique about the 
cable and connector? What’s the deal with those posts? Aside from them, it 
looks like a 6P4C with only three leads connected.

alan





RE: Vt131 4 sale in St.Louis

2021-10-28 Thread jwest--- via cctalk
No, that's not my stuff 

Sure appears to be a collector, wonder who.

J