[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-24 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
Rebuild as in Steve Austin.  Holy crap.

Sellam

On Sat, Sep 24, 2022 at 8:29 PM Adrian Stoness via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> ive got a 8i i need to finish rebuilding
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> https://www.flickr.com/photos/1ajs/34539786085/in/photolist-UsNVQc-UnZy3U-UnXoiN-UCar4c-Tj2Q4F-svoMkx-rRe2wa-sMGsvE-snF3C3-snMK88-snF3G1-sqYYGV-sr1sL2-shWVmZ-seqzS6-rhEMQD-rhtjmd-sdACea-Mfq4ar-KhqDsy
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> On Sat, Sep 24, 2022 at 8:36 PM jim stephens via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
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> >
> >
> > On 9/24/22 14:59, Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote:
> > > o?
> > >
> > > On Sat, Sep 24, 2022 at 12:30 PM jos via cctalk  >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> On 24.09.22 04:57, Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote:
> > >>> Wow someone mentioning à phillips p series
> > >>> Has a p854 new old stock panel my self along with bunch of manuals
> and
> > à
> > >>> spare core memory pack in safe keeping
> > >>
> > >> I have spare P854's.
> > >>
> > >> Jos
> > >>
> > >>
> > There is Oscar's actual computers, a PDP 11 replica and PDP8 replica as
> > well as great IMSAI and Altairs available which look great as well as
> > being actual simulators or emulators of the computers, with the  lights,
> > not just dead displays.
> >
> > For display, on could get front panels from Ron Smallwood and produce
> > switches and the other few parts required by 3d printing and make a
> > pretty good display panel.
> >
> > thanks
> > Jim
> >
>


[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-24 Thread Adrian Stoness via cctalk
ive got a 8i i need to finish rebuilding
https://www.flickr.com/photos/1ajs/34539786085/in/photolist-UsNVQc-UnZy3U-UnXoiN-UCar4c-Tj2Q4F-svoMkx-rRe2wa-sMGsvE-snF3C3-snMK88-snF3G1-sqYYGV-sr1sL2-shWVmZ-seqzS6-rhEMQD-rhtjmd-sdACea-Mfq4ar-KhqDsy



On Sat, Sep 24, 2022 at 8:36 PM jim stephens via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

>
>
> On 9/24/22 14:59, Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote:
> > o?
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 24, 2022 at 12:30 PM jos via cctalk 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 24.09.22 04:57, Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote:
> >>> Wow someone mentioning à phillips p series
> >>> Has a p854 new old stock panel my self along with bunch of manuals and
> à
> >>> spare core memory pack in safe keeping
> >>
> >> I have spare P854's.
> >>
> >> Jos
> >>
> >>
> There is Oscar's actual computers, a PDP 11 replica and PDP8 replica as
> well as great IMSAI and Altairs available which look great as well as
> being actual simulators or emulators of the computers, with the  lights,
> not just dead displays.
>
> For display, on could get front panels from Ron Smallwood and produce
> switches and the other few parts required by 3d printing and make a
> pretty good display panel.
>
> thanks
> Jim
>


[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-24 Thread jim stephens via cctalk




On 9/24/22 14:59, Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote:

o?

On Sat, Sep 24, 2022 at 12:30 PM jos via cctalk 
wrote:


On 24.09.22 04:57, Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote:

Wow someone mentioning à phillips p series
Has a p854 new old stock panel my self along with bunch of manuals and à
spare core memory pack in safe keeping


I have spare P854's.

Jos


There is Oscar's actual computers, a PDP 11 replica and PDP8 replica as 
well as great IMSAI and Altairs available which look great as well as 
being actual simulators or emulators of the computers, with the  lights, 
not just dead displays.


For display, on could get front panels from Ron Smallwood and produce 
switches and the other few parts required by 3d printing and make a 
pretty good display panel.


thanks
Jim


[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-24 Thread Adrian Stoness via cctalk
o?

On Sat, Sep 24, 2022 at 12:30 PM jos via cctalk 
wrote:

> On 24.09.22 04:57, Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote:
> > Wow someone mentioning à phillips p series
> > Has a p854 new old stock panel my self along with bunch of manuals and à
> > spare core memory pack in safe keeping
>
>
> I have spare P854's.
>
> Jos
>
>


[cctalk] Re: i860 vs. i960 WAS Intel's i860, Cray-On-A-Chip

2022-09-24 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk



> On Sep 23, 2022, at 11:50 PM, Ali via cctalk  wrote:
> 
> I always thought the i960 was an upgrade to the i860 (sort of like i386 to 
> i486 upgrade). However, based on the info on wiki it seems as if the i960 
> actually came first and although a RISC chip it was in no way in the same 
> league as the i860. Anyone can clarify or verify this?

I have very bad memories of the i960 from my time at Chipcom.  The main memory 
I have is that it uses an utterly misdesigned queue based I/O architecture, 
full of race conditions.  I think it's the same "design" used in the much 
maligned i82586 Ethernet chip.

The odd thing is that others had done correct and race-free queue designs a 
decade or two earlier, but Intel never showed any sign of design competence and 
it is just an example of this that they screwed up I/O queues so badly.

paul



[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-24 Thread jos via cctalk

On 24.09.22 04:57, Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote:

Wow someone mentioning à phillips p series
Has a p854 new old stock panel my self along with bunch of manuals and à
spare core memory pack in safe keeping



I have spare P854's.

Jos



[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-24 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk



> On Sep 23, 2022, at 10:57 PM, Adrian Stoness via cctalk 
>  wrote:
> 
> Wow someone mentioning à phillips p series

"Philips" (one l).

Their numbering is weird.  My first assembly language programming was on a 
PR8000, an extremely obscure 24 bit minicomputer.  It doesn't seem to have any 
relation to anything else, but it still is a P-something.

paul



[cctalk] Project Monterey booting in 2022

2022-09-24 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
https://virtuallyfun.com/wordpress/2022/09/24/ibm-aix-for-ia64-itanium-aka-project-monterey-runs-again/


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[cctalk] Re: i860 vs. i960 WAS Intel's i860, Cray-On-A-Chip

2022-09-24 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 24 Sept 2022 at 05:50, Ali via cctalk  wrote:
>
> I always thought the i960 was an upgrade to the i860 (sort of like i386 to 
> i486 upgrade). However, based on the info on wiki it seems as if the i960 
> actually came first and although a RISC chip it was in no way in the same 
> league as the i860.

Yes, me too. This has come as a bit of a surprise to me in fact.

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