[cctalk] websites as subdomains under classiccmp.org

2023-04-24 Thread Tarek Hoteit via cctalk
I learned today about Dave’s Old Computer website  
http://dunfield.classiccmp.org/ which is listed as a subdomain under 
classiccmp.org.  I wasn’t aware of subdomain sites. Can any one list any other 
ones or is a list of sites available ? 

Regards,
Tarek Hoteit

[cctalk] Re: Magazine no longer in print

2023-04-24 Thread Tarek Hoteit via cctalk
Also found this GitHub page that simplifies reading magazines off archive.org 
https://gitgalu.github.io/LoboReader/
when using your phone 

Regards,
Tarek Hoteit

> On Apr 24, 2023, at 4:47 PM, KenUnix via cctalk  wrote:
> 
> Guys,
> 
> I came across this site that has Linux magazines downloadable for free in
> PDF:
> 
> http://pclosmag.com/index.html
> 
> Ken
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 2:06 PM KenUnix  wrote:
>> 
>> Richard,
>> 
>> Try here:  https://linuxnewmedia.square.site/shop/linux-magazine/2
>> 
>> Ken
>> 
>> On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 1:38 PM Richard via cctalk 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> In article <333df660-9b28-e5ce-5ff1-f1295a9fa...@sydex.com>,
>>>"Chuck Guzis via cctalk"  writes:
>>> 
 My "answering the call of nature" standard reading was EDN.   Sadly, it
 and Electronic Design are no longer published on dead trees.
>>> 
>>> I used to love reading EE Times when it was a weekly tabloid style
>>> print edition.  Ever since they moved to a web site only format, it's
>>> been a serious downgrade of the experience.  Even with accounting for
>>> the format change, it's now virtually imposible to find "what's new"
>>> since the last time I was there.  The organization of the articles on
>>> the web site is vastly inferior to the organization of the articles in
>>> the print edition.  The sad part is that there's no reason for the
>>> degraded experience just because they moved to a digital edition.
>>> --
>>> "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <
>>> http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline>
>>>The Terminals Wiki 
>>> The Computer Graphics Museum 
>>>  Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> End of line
>> JOB TERMINATED Okey Dokey
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> End of line
> JOB TERMINATED Okey Dokey


[cctalk] Re: Magazine no longer in print

2023-04-24 Thread KenUnix via cctalk
Guys,

I came across this site that has Linux magazines downloadable for free in
PDF:

http://pclosmag.com/index.html

Ken


On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 2:06 PM KenUnix  wrote:

> Richard,
>
> Try here:  https://linuxnewmedia.square.site/shop/linux-magazine/2
>
> Ken
>
> On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 1:38 PM Richard via cctalk 
> wrote:
>
>> In article <333df660-9b28-e5ce-5ff1-f1295a9fa...@sydex.com>,
>> "Chuck Guzis via cctalk"  writes:
>>
>> > My "answering the call of nature" standard reading was EDN.   Sadly, it
>> > and Electronic Design are no longer published on dead trees.
>>
>> I used to love reading EE Times when it was a weekly tabloid style
>> print edition.  Ever since they moved to a web site only format, it's
>> been a serious downgrade of the experience.  Even with accounting for
>> the format change, it's now virtually imposible to find "what's new"
>> since the last time I was there.  The organization of the articles on
>> the web site is vastly inferior to the organization of the articles in
>> the print edition.  The sad part is that there's no reason for the
>> degraded experience just because they moved to a digital edition.
>> --
>> "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <
>> http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline>
>> The Terminals Wiki 
>>  The Computer Graphics Museum 
>>   Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) 
>>
>
>
> --
> End of line
> JOB TERMINATED Okey Dokey
>
>
>

-- 
End of line
JOB TERMINATED Okey Dokey


[cctalk] Re: flipchip cleaning and pin corrosion inhibition

2023-04-24 Thread KenUnix via cctalk
David,

I could tell you I had an experience where I had a stuck bit in core memory.

It was in a trunk frame in a #2ESS AIS.

I removed the core package and tapped it on the floor, reinserted it and
the trouble cleared.

Sticky bit! Ha

I only knew that because it happened to me on my old PDP-8/I..

Ken


On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 1:50 PM David Gesswein via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 11:11:35AM +0100, Pete Turnbull wrote:
> > On 23/04/2023 22:52, KenUnix via cctalk wrote:
> > > Pete,
> > >
> > > Did the 8E have core or solid state memory?
> >
> > It had both, but I didn't put the core boards in the dishwasher.  I
> figured
> > they might be too delicate for that, so I rinsed them by hand in the
> kitchen
> > sink.
> >
> > I should have said that in my original post.
> >
>
> I assume your referring to the core electronics boards and didn't wash the
> core plane.
>
> I've never used the dishwasher. I've hand washed R, W, G and M type boards
> in
> sink with dish soap and soft bristle brush, rinsed, then blew off with
> air compressor, then finish dry with fan. For pots and other
> components that I wasn't sure how well they were sealed I used damp brush
> or
> cloth around them. Rest got dunked. No obvious issues from washing.
>


-- 
End of line
JOB TERMINATED Okey Dokey


[cctalk] Re: Magazine no longer in print

2023-04-24 Thread KenUnix via cctalk
Richard,

Try here:  https://linuxnewmedia.square.site/shop/linux-magazine/2

Ken

On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 1:38 PM Richard via cctalk 
wrote:

> In article <333df660-9b28-e5ce-5ff1-f1295a9fa...@sydex.com>,
> "Chuck Guzis via cctalk"  writes:
>
> > My "answering the call of nature" standard reading was EDN.   Sadly, it
> > and Electronic Design are no longer published on dead trees.
>
> I used to love reading EE Times when it was a weekly tabloid style
> print edition.  Ever since they moved to a web site only format, it's
> been a serious downgrade of the experience.  Even with accounting for
> the format change, it's now virtually imposible to find "what's new"
> since the last time I was there.  The organization of the articles on
> the web site is vastly inferior to the organization of the articles in
> the print edition.  The sad part is that there's no reason for the
> degraded experience just because they moved to a digital edition.
> --
> "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <
> http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline>
> The Terminals Wiki 
>  The Computer Graphics Museum 
>   Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) 
>


-- 
End of line
JOB TERMINATED Okey Dokey


[cctalk] Re: flipchip cleaning and pin corrosion inhibition

2023-04-24 Thread David Gesswein via cctalk
On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 11:11:35AM +0100, Pete Turnbull wrote:
> On 23/04/2023 22:52, KenUnix via cctalk wrote:
> > Pete,
> > 
> > Did the 8E have core or solid state memory?
> 
> It had both, but I didn't put the core boards in the dishwasher.  I figured
> they might be too delicate for that, so I rinsed them by hand in the kitchen
> sink.
> 
> I should have said that in my original post.
> 

I assume your referring to the core electronics boards and didn't wash the
core plane.

I've never used the dishwasher. I've hand washed R, W, G and M type boards in
sink with dish soap and soft bristle brush, rinsed, then blew off with 
air compressor, then finish dry with fan. For pots and other
components that I wasn't sure how well they were sealed I used damp brush or
cloth around them. Rest got dunked. No obvious issues from washing.


[cctalk] Re: One of Paul Allen's Museums

2023-04-24 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
Well, it was his stuff, and he had a right to decide what to do with it
after his passing.

But I have and am entitled to my opinions, and that is utter shite.

Sellam

On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 8:30 AM Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On 4/24/23 03:18, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote:
> > On 24/04/2023 06:45, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
> >> Bad link  Zane I get a weird  screen from the timeEd#
> >
> > Delete the strange character after the last "/" and it will work:
> >
> >
> https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/after-3-years-flying-heritage-museum-to-reopen-in-everett/
>
> As I understand the situation, Jody, Paul's sister, is the named
> executor for Paul's assets.  I've read that his instructions were to
> sell off most of the assets and donate the proceeds to charity.  In
> other words, the LCM will be sold; whether or not it remains intact is a
> decision made by the purchaser.
>
>
> --Chuck
>
>
>


[cctalk] Re: Magazine no longer in print

2023-04-24 Thread Richard via cctalk
In article <333df660-9b28-e5ce-5ff1-f1295a9fa...@sydex.com>,
"Chuck Guzis via cctalk"  writes:

> My "answering the call of nature" standard reading was EDN.   Sadly, it
> and Electronic Design are no longer published on dead trees.

I used to love reading EE Times when it was a weekly tabloid style
print edition.  Ever since they moved to a web site only format, it's
been a serious downgrade of the experience.  Even with accounting for
the format change, it's now virtually imposible to find "what's new"
since the last time I was there.  The organization of the articles on
the web site is vastly inferior to the organization of the articles in
the print edition.  The sad part is that there's no reason for the
degraded experience just because they moved to a digital edition.
-- 
"The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book 
The Terminals Wiki 
 The Computer Graphics Museum 
  Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) 


[cctalk] Re: One of Paul Allen's Museums

2023-04-24 Thread Ethan O'Toole via cctalk

Question, were Paul Allen’s museums non-profits?
Zane


I am sure, tax writeoff.

--
: Ethan O'Toole



[cctalk] Re: One of Paul Allen's Museums

2023-04-24 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
On Apr 24, 2023, at 3:18 AM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk  
wrote:
> 
> On 24/04/2023 06:45, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
>> Bad link  Zane I get a weird  screen from the timeEd#
> 
> Delete the strange character after the last "/" and it will work:
> 
> https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/after-3-years-flying-heritage-museum-to-reopen-in-everett/
> 
> -- 
> Pete
> Pete Turnbull

Thanks!  I’m going to blame that on the latest MacOS version, as I’d tested 
that link. :-(

Zane






[cctalk] Re: One of Paul Allen's Museums

2023-04-24 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 4/24/23 03:18, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote:
> On 24/04/2023 06:45, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
>> Bad link  Zane I get a weird  screen from the timeEd#
> 
> Delete the strange character after the last "/" and it will work:
> 
> https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/after-3-years-flying-heritage-museum-to-reopen-in-everett/

As I understand the situation, Jody, Paul's sister, is the named
executor for Paul's assets.  I've read that his instructions were to
sell off most of the assets and donate the proceeds to charity.  In
other words, the LCM will be sold; whether or not it remains intact is a
decision made by the purchaser.


--Chuck




[cctalk] Re: flipchip cleaning and pin corrosion inhibition

2023-04-24 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
I would be tempted to take a  board ot two outside and then use compressed
air to get off as much as possilble that way first, before cleaning with
anything.
Bill

On Sun, Apr 23, 2023, 12:54 PM Fritz Mueller via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I’ve been picking my way through a PDP-8/L restoration lately.  I’ve found
> that everything in the machine is covered with a uniform layer of dark
> “soot” (enough to blacken your hands while working with it) which I would
> like to clean up.  Perhaps the “soot” is actually from a decomposed air
> filter, as I don’t imagine this machine was operated in a smoky
> environment, and there is no smoke odor.
>
> I usually use 99 IPA and cleanroom wipes for spot cleaning these sorts of
> things, but in this case there is so much of it that I feel that would just
> push the soot around rather than clean it off.  I think some sort of actual
> rinse would be needed here.
>
> I’ve been eying the dishwasher, for the subset of flip chips that that are
> just DIP logic, carbon comp resistors, and ceramic bypass caps, anyway.
>  But I haven’t been brave enough to try that yet...  Most of the logic here
> has date codes to ’68 or ’69, so I’m inclined to treat it gently.  Any
> suggestions for approaches to clean this up?
>
> Follow-on question: the majority of the legs on these old DIPs are showing
> what I’d call “moderate” corrosion — nothing looks like it is in danger of
> being eaten all the way through, but the process is underway.  I was
> wondering if something like a light shellac or other inhibitor could be
> brushed over these pins to at least slow their inevitable demise?
>
> I did purchase and build out one of Vince’s flip chip tester kits, and
> have found it super useful for this project.  Of the large percentage
> modules that have test vectors supplied, most have tested fine.  Three M216
> flip-flop modules and one M113 nand module were flagged for repairs this
> way.
>
> Advice appreciated, as always!
>
> cheers,
>—FritzM.
>
>
>


[cctalk] Re: flipchip cleaning and pin corrosion inhibition

2023-04-24 Thread KenUnix via cctalk
Peter,

I could tell you I had an experience where I had a stuck bit in core memory.

It was in a trunk frame in a #2ESS AIS.

I removed the core package and tapped it on the floor reinserted it and the
trouble cleared.

Sticky bit! Ha

Ken

On Mon, Apr 24, 2023, 6:23 AM Pete Turnbull via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On 23/04/2023 22:52, KenUnix via cctalk wrote:
> > Pete,
> >
> > Did the 8E have core or solid state memory?
>
> It had both, but I didn't put the core boards in the dishwasher.  I
> figured they might be too delicate for that, so I rinsed them by hand in
> the kitchen sink.
>
> I should have said that in my original post.
>
> --
> Pete
> Pete Turnbull
>
>


[cctalk] Re: One of Paul Allen's Museums

2023-04-24 Thread Pete Turnbull via cctalk

On 24/04/2023 06:45, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:

Bad link  Zane I get a weird  screen from the timeEd#


Delete the strange character after the last "/" and it will work:

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/after-3-years-flying-heritage-museum-to-reopen-in-everett/

--
Pete
Pete Turnbull



[cctalk] Re: flipchip cleaning and pin corrosion inhibition

2023-04-24 Thread Pete Turnbull via cctalk

On 23/04/2023 22:52, KenUnix via cctalk wrote:

Pete,

Did the 8E have core or solid state memory?


It had both, but I didn't put the core boards in the dishwasher.  I 
figured they might be too delicate for that, so I rinsed them by hand in 
the kitchen sink.


I should have said that in my original post.

--
Pete
Pete Turnbull