On 7/6/18 9:49 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> Couple of related things, does anyone have a list of SCSI CDROMs known to
> boot on the 68K 9000s?
Closing this out, pretty much any Apple SCSI drive (MATSUSHITA CR-50x) from the
600i to 24x will boot the installer
when set to unit 0,
ok, I'm guessing this is an SMS floppy controller
why is someone willing to pay $50+ for it in the condition its in?
AKA shugart SA4400 Ministreaker
On 7/8/18 4:34 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
> On 07/08/2018 07:31 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
>> ok, I'm guessing this is an SMS floppy controller
dated May, 2018
must go with something magical
On 7/8/18 4:40 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> AKA shugart SA4400 Ministreaker
> On 7/8/18 4:34 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cct
I don't currently have a Solaris box set up or I would have edited
the password file, after dealing with finding an 80 to 50 pin adapter
for the drive.
On 7/9/18 1:31 PM, Jason T via cctalk wrote:
> Al - I made ISOs of the media I had before giving away my HALstations
> in 2009. I
No, it is specifically mentioned in the HP test tools manual 09800-90001 page
On 7/9/18 11:27 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
> I've never heard of loopback related to SCSI. I have seen many external
> terminators that someone may miss-identify as a
> loopback because it seems quite
360 Technologies is (was) and old HP reseller.
I just tried buying a 9145 from them, and didn't hear anything back.
Called them, and they are in the middle of selling off what they haven't
Mike is going to let me know more of what will be available and by whom next
On 7/11/18 2:21 AM, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote:
> I use Screen 99 for cleaning floppies
first ingredient listed; isopropyl alcohol
On 7/11/18 8:20 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> On 7/11/18 2:21 AM, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote:
>> I use Screen 99 for cleaning floppies
> first ingredient listed; isopr
On 7/11/18 8:57 AM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote:
> Be wary though, domestic ovens apparently fluctuate wildly.
Use a food dehydrator
this is the unit I use for QIC tapes (weston 10 tray stainless steel dehydrator
but I do them a
w where you office is on the East bay side.
> It might be closer.
> *From:* cctalk on behalf of Al Kossow via
> *Sent:* Mond
Couple of related things, does anyone have a list of SCSI CDROMs known to boot
on the 68K 9000s?
I've ordered another A1999 to see if my drive is just bad, and have started
digging through my
boxes of drives for other models to test.
Has anyone come across an archive of SCSI CDROM technical
On 7/6/18 5:17 PM, Mike Loewen via cctalk wrote:
> HPDrive will emulate a 9144A.
That's good enough for software distributions. I don't think
I've ever seen a distribution tape that was 32 track.
9145 added a bunch of fancy buffering HPIB command stuff to get
it to stream at 120ips.
If it hasn't been used recently, it is a certainty the capstan is goo.
A friend helped me make a new capstan for one of the 9145s that I have, it
worked until the logic croaked. I was able to load exactly ONE tape before
it died. I'm in the process of buying a refurbished one from 360
On 7/6/18 5:22 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
>> If it hasn't been used recently, it is a certainty the capstan is goo.
> No, I fixed the capstan, and I'm using brand new IOTAMAT tapes still in
> the original shrink wrap, but only one drive will even certify tapes and
> none of them will write
On 7/6/18 5:31 PM, Charles Harris via cctalk wrote:
Hi Who has experience with the TMS1000 in a lot of games.
there has been a ton of work with tms1000 games in mame
Digging through some HP docs, CD-ROM boot was only possible on 8.0 and up.
Does HPDrive simulate a 9144 or 45?
On 7/6/18 4:53 PM, Rico Pajarola via cctalk wrote:
> Not what you asked for, but I successfully used HPDrive to emulate HP-IB
> devices (disk and tapes). I never had any luck with
> I also got a Sparcstation 5 running Solaris 2.6 and have had no luck getting
> it to recognize the HAL boot drives.
Operator error on my part, didn't know about "drvconfig" and "disks" since I've
never used Solaris 2.x before.
I'm evaluating two that came in as a donation, and the donor didn't have any
Someone working on simulating the scsi DIO board in MAME asked me about the
test plug. Anyone ever seen one? Is it just wires or are there active parts
doing the loopback?
Man, these things are annoying.
All of the bands are bad, and they leave residue on the spools.
There are no EOT BOT holes on the HP tape, and the drive locks
the cartridge until you 'unload' it, which spins to the EOT soft
region. Well, guess what, they leave the tape in a position where
detail by the same author.
7942 is completely incompatible with the 44 and 45
On 7/13/18 10:29 AM, Tony Duell wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 5:35 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk
>> Man, these things are annoying.
>> All of the bands are bad, and they lea
On 7/13/18 11:29 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> 7942 is completely incompatible with the 44 and 45
Are the firmware eproms for the DECstation archived anywhere?
On 1/13/18 7:06 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
> I'm just wondering if anybody here did (or knows who) bought this one.
no, but I bought his miniframe, which is very clean.
I used my mfm emulator to image the disks, I haven't had time yet to see what
the cartridge tapes are
On 1/22/18 3:06 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:
> I'm trying to remember what kind of cable it used; IIRC it was black coax,
> with a woven shield (i.e. not solid like CATV), not quite as large in
> diameter as the yellow 10Mbit stuff. To connect up to it, one clamped on a
On 1/22/18 5:24 PM, jim stephens via cctalk wrote:
> Worth noting my 3/260 has a monochrome graphics port
x/2x0 CPUs produce 1600 x 1280, ECL 200 MHz dot clock video.
CRTs for them are pretty much impossible to find.
Jaeger via cctalk wrote:
> I wasn't aware of that. I have a ton of Apollo QIC images. Shall I put
> them up on my Google Drive for you to grab?
> On 1/21/2018 1:50 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
>> CHM has an agreement with HP to host Apollo and 68K HP 9000 software legally.
On 1/21/18 8:53 PM, Kevin Bowling via cctalk wrote:
> Several people asked my location.. Phoenix, AZ. Freighting stuff is
> neither hard nor expensive if it comes to that but I'm just trying to
> gauge value at the moment.
I have a 3/x80 full server rack with 1/2 tape, no disks, and dozens
On 1/21/18 10:04 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
> Remember that the GT40 is a vector drawing display, not a raster scan. So
> you need a tube and associated deflection machinery that can handle high
> frequency X and Y deflection waveforms accurately. This is not easy,
> especially with
On 1/21/18 10:12 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> On 1/21/18 10:04 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
>> Remember that the GT40 is a vector drawing display, not a raster scan. So
>> you need a tube and associated deflection machinery that can handle hi
On 1/22/18 9:57 AM, Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote:
> Wasn't the internal controller the early Sun processor board (basically a
> 68000 single-board computer that preceded or was used in the Sun 1), or am I
> conflating things? (We had a Sun 1 quite early as well).
Imagen founded by
there are pictures of the transceiver w/o the vampire tap on bitsavers
On 1/23/18 7:51 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:
> > From: Grant Taylor
> > According to the following page, it was not RG-8 cable ... As such it
> > was
On 1/23/18 8:48 AM, Dave via cctalk wrote:
> Hi Al,
> What 9816 parts are required to run it? Do you already have the 9816 and
> 9121 drive? Also, is there a copy of CP/M-68K available somewhere for
> On Monday, January 22, 2018, 1:13:08 PM CST, Al
On 1/23/18 11:01 AM, Ian Finder via cctalk wrote:
> I too have always enjoyed the analogy to ivory poachers.
Those are computer front panel collectors.
On 1/23/18 4:04 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> He's holding up the wrong stuff if it's RG-8
> Experimental Ethernet is 75 ohms.
I just went out to storage and got the run of cable that was used with a Dorado.
I'll take some pics of it later.
It is orange, looks like RG
On 1/23/18 12:27 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
>> The stuff with better shield, marking bands, etc is 10 Mb; it's about 1.05cm
>> in diagmeter. The black stuff (the stuff Dave is holding in the video) is
>> the piece I have is .95 cm.
> The Ethernet spec says that the cable
On 9/1/18 9:41 AM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote:
> Is this actually a *non*-standard thing?
it seems likely.
I looked at the IDT and Micron 90's SRAM catalogs
and the x32 stock sram modules they made are all 64 pin
On 3/11/18 10:28 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
> On 03/11/2018 08:19 AM, Al Kossow wrote:
>> I've scrapped six of those already. They aren't worth anything.
>> On 3/11/18 1:23 AM, jim stephens wrote:
>>> I think this is actually a quad density half inch. If the guy didn't burn
There are two gzip'ed files up now of analog digitized 9 track data under
http://bitsavers.org/projects/9track containing two files of 16 bit incrementing
data patterns blocked 512 bytes/blk and the tach signal from a Qualstar 1260
at 50 ips.
The data can be viewed using Salea's Logic
here is a place that supports them
On 3/9/18 2:22 PM, Jerry Wright via cctalk wrote:
> Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2018 04:53:27 + (UTC)
> From: Jerry Wright
> To: "email@example.com"
> Subject: 2 long lost
On 2/26/18 11:35 PM, Ian via cctalk wrote:
> So again I plead- does anyone have a Sun 3 scsi controller, preferably of the
> internally pinned type, sitting on a shelf somewhere?
I sent you mail, never got a reply.
I'm about to sell off all of my Sun VME stuff.
Make me a reasonable offer
I have a couple of carts I'd like to read, found a drive today, talks SCSI but
not common command set.
It seems to act more like a disk than a tape (read block makes the tape move),
but mode sense doesn't
return anything sensible.
The only thing I've ever been able to turn up on these drives is
oh, and obviously, the Fujitsu carts, which sort of look like DLTs, can only be
read in this drive.
On 3/14/18 4:08 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> I have a couple of carts I'd like to read, found a drive today, talks SCSI
> but not common command set.
> It seems to act more like a
Could you take some pictures of the 4010?
This was sold by Sperry after they bought Pertec
I have a stack of boards, and maybe a diagnostic tape for one of the models.
On 3/8/18 8:53 PM, Jerry Wright via cctalk wrote:
> Hi All, I still looking for the OS media or any manuals for 2 systems 1
On 3/13/18 9:14 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
> Al, did you see this patent by Kennedy:
No, I hadn't. Interesting it doesn't seem to match the circuit in any of the
I've also been scanning some boxes
On 4/5/18 5:34 PM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote:
> You have to be logged into the vcfed.org Forum to see images posted there.
forgot about that..
wonder why they do that?
Last Day is this Sunday
since I can't attach a picture here
I also scrapped about a dozen Omnidrives, but kept the controller boards
mostly because all of the MFM drives were bad.
They are standalone Omninet disk servers
On 4/5/18 9:54 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> I will be going through my Concepts over the next few months assembling
I will be going through my Concepts over the next few months assembling systems
I have a LOT of stuff for these systems.
Most of the software has been dumped and is on bitsavers.
There is a simulation running in MAME.
The software is fairly primitive, they came out just before mice and
it appears IBM built a test system for NASA with an HP 1000 and 7900 disk
On 4/16/18 7:54 PM, Mark Matlock via cctech wrote:
>I’d like to make it available online
it is online now
I have a x/280 server chassis that has a power supply that's acting up (DC
after a few seconds)
Anyone have one they can spare? Sun PN 300-1024
or has anyone seen this problem before (caps in the DC
On 3/27/18 12:44 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
> Am I being silly?
Hitachi 3 and 4tb are VERY good, as are the equivalent Toshiba from when WD
of the Hitachi hi-end line.
1tb was the switchover point to vertical recording, so those (and esp seagate
> Can a flatbed scanner with high resolution (1200dpi) scan these directly or
> does it require using a lens setup?
The rock has been lifted (again)
DOES ANYONE READ OLD POSTS HERE??
Do the math. Scanning all of that fiche is man-centuries of work with all but
the most expensive
On 3/28/18 10:14 AM, Ethan via cctalk wrote:
> Tapes don't generate heat or use electricity when sitting idle, so it seems
> ideal to backup my home NAS boxes and hoards
> of software for classic computers, arcade / video games and laser show 8 and
> 16 channel digital audio tape dumps.
On 3/16/18 10:39 AM, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote:
> The LCM+L bought them, we're going to image them when they arrive (and I'll
> be sure to send a copy your way).
Josh forwarded images and extracted files to me.
They are up now under
and if anyone cares, I just listed three SGI IRIS dial boxes on ebay.
they are just rotary encoders, the smarts were in the button box, which had a
68008 in it.
On 3/25/18 10:28 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> On 3/25/18 8:49 AM, Chris Elmquist via cctalk wrote:
On 3/25/18 8:49 AM, Chris Elmquist via cctalk wrote:
a friend of mine made a MIDI controller out of a E dial box, which also has
alphanumeric LEDs over each dial.
the box looks like the one on the right here:
On 4/3/18 6:25 AM, peter--- via cctalk wrote:
> Hi Alan,
> You don't want to try to repair the controller? There are some custom IC's on
> there (it appears) but is largely off-the-shelf TTL... I'm sure someone on
> the list has a lot of experience with these and could repair it or help.
yes, IBM fiche is the size of a punched card
In theory, the scanner I bought should be able to handle it if I
can make custom carriers for it.
On 3/29/18 6:16 AM, emanuel stiebler via cctalk wrote:
> Stupid question on the side, as I know/have DEC fiche only.
> Are there any fiche out there,
also aperture cards, which are punched cards with a single 35mm image on them
On 3/29/18 8:49 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> yes, IBM fiche is the size of a punched card
> In theory, the scanner I bought should be able to handle it if I
> can make custom carriers for it.
On 3/29/18 7:54 AM, emanuel stiebler via cctalk wrote:
> That's why we should do it now, not later ;-)
If people in the Bay Area has the time to work on this, they can have
access to my scanners in my lab. I brought one up a couple of years ago.
The problem with any micrographics equipment
all from mid 1971
hope the person who got these knows what they bought
On 3/16/18 10:39 AM, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote:
> The LCM+L bought them
Good Job! I was hoping you guys did, when I saw there was a copy of PAL10 on
On 3/21/18 10:17 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
> Anybody here remember the Andromeda DC11?
Isn't that a rebadged AED WINC-05?
Does it have a Z8000 on it?
On 3/22/18 9:40 AM, Jan Adelsbach via cctalk wrote:
> Here is mine for the list, a PDP-1 (and some optional PDP-1D features) in
If you want to make your brain hurt, try supporting the MIT PDP-1X
On 3/19/18 8:57 AM, Lyle Bickley via cctalk wrote:
>> 2914 chips. One board has some kind of dedicated memory one board has
>> 4 TRW chips which I think are AD converters.
It's a frame buffer, you can see the 10422 lookup tables behind the TRW video
another similar paper
On 3/23/18 7:46 AM, Lyle Bickley via cctalk wrote:
> Back in the mid-seventies, when I was COB of "Personal Computer
> Corporation", The Digital Group product line was our best seller for a
> couple of years. Our staff often had one-on-one contact with Doc.
> Suding. Those of us who knew him
/23/2018, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
>> He was a good guy. He took the time to come out to Wisconsin back then
>> to demo his system for the Wisconsin Computer Society, back when the
>> Milwaukee Computer Store on North Avenue was the only one around.
> There was one on C
they would be difficult to use unless you made a board with extra-big holes
since they aren't PC mount
On 3/3/18 9:24 AM, Anders Nelson via cctalk wrote:
> In case anyone is making a scaled-down front switch panel:
It's too wide.
On 3/4/18 4:40 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:
> A couple of people have replied privately telling me it's for a Motorola
I did a scan of the CHM catalog, and we don't appear to have it
We do have some other things, which I'll scan today
On 10/5/18 6:36 AM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
> So there are no scans of this drive otherwise going once going twice...
On 10/17/18 10:51 AM, Jeffrey S. Worley via cctalk wrote:
> Cleaning the head from time to time may get you through a read of a
> tape for backup purposes, but there is a machine called a 'tape
> cleaner' which is a drive which leads the tape through a path seeded
> with knife-edges. As the
Does anyone have copies of the planning (GA27-3609) or configuration (GA27-3726)
documents for the 3708 protocol converter?
On 10/17/18 11:42 PM, jim stephens via cctalk wrote:
> Also, I've got some friends following on an audio group who are attempting to
> restore and transcribe tapes, wondering if
> there might be anything you can recommend, given that media is thinner, and
> the data is analog, not digital in
On 10/17/18 11:22 PM, Curious Marc via cctalk wrote:
> Where can you get that chemical? Is it a common one?
you can buy it on eBay
it's used in making soap and hair conditioner
you can use it on floppies too, but use it
I received this message this morning, if someone in Germany would like a data
"The computer club at the RWTH Aachen University has to move from a larger
collection of semiconductor data books. These
are 2..3 steel cabinets full of data books of various manufacturers, for which
On 10/19/18 9:19 AM, Ethan via cctalk wrote:
> I don't get it. You can buy off the shelf clicky keyboards with RGB for $150.
The quality of modern keycaps is poor.
These guys are after mechanical boards with double-shot keytops.
If you do find modern double-shots, the fonts they use are
On 10/19/18 10:39 AM, Paul Koning wrote:
> In spite of IBM marketing claims, 802.5 data link layer is not a well behaved
Apple had to re-design their TR Nubus card, which used the TI chipset, and
to IBM's because it couldn't be made to work reliably.
On 10/19/18 8:41 AM, js--- via cctalk wrote:
> Why is the keyboard being sold alone, when the terminal is right there?
Any 70's or 80's mechanical switch or hall-effect keyboard is going for big
This has been discussed here and on
>> IBM developed a Token Ring card for the PC in time for its launch
IBM's initial networking for the PC (The PC Network) was broadband, based
on technology from Sytek. 4Mb token ring was released later. Exact dates
are in the manuals on bitsavers.
On 10/19/18 9:50 AM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
> leave the keyboard connected to whatever it originally came with.
They don't give a fsck about old junk, they just want the l33t kb
On 10/19/18 8:24 AM, William Sudbrink via cctalk wrote:
> Have you ever seen any actual "Kentucky Fried Computers" anything?
> Ads? Marketing lit? Hardware? Letterhead? Incorporation application?
There is something in the Jim Warren West Coast Computer Faire correspondence
On 10/20/18 5:16 PM, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote:
> I'm surprised there aren't a boatload of arduino projects to create a PC
> keyboard to each of the classics...
If things continue as they are, people will be forced to do that, or create
In the past, the kb collectors would build
On 10/21/18 11:25 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> Because of my job, I have to think about what the museum needs to collect
> at the bottom of the supply bathtub curve, and I get nervous when things
> start to come up on the tail side.
I should probably expound on that a bit mo
On 10/20/18 8:11 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
> I have an old Apple Newton keyboard... would that be useful? It's just a
> simple serial protocol with a table that at one
> point I write a program that used the xtest extension to allow me to use it
> as my main keyboard while in X11 Would
On 10/20/18 10:05 PM, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote:
> It's Beanie Babies all over again, people. Give it a year or two and the
> keyboard market will likely crash.
I don't see it happening, unless someone turns up a warehouse full of the
things cheap to drive supply up.
All I hear about
hopefully, Jim Stevens was able to save some of the docs from the Univac III
On 10/13/18 1:36 PM, Tom Gardner via cctalk wrote:
> I'm looking for maintenance manuals for old Univac tape and printers. I've
> already mined Bitsavers and done some fairly extensive Google searches but
You may also need to make a field trip to CBI to check the Univac corporate
On 10/13/18 3:55 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> hopefully, Jim Stevens was able to save some of the docs from the Univac III
> On 10/13/18 1:36 PM, Tom Gardner via cctalk wrote:
> So you won't be at NOVApalooza then? It's not too late to sign up:
When: October 22-24, 2018
How was it?
On 10/24/18 8:57 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
> Yeah, basically a PDP-8 with a wider word.
Four accumulators, and no memory pages
On 10/24/18 1:08 AM, Evan Linwood via cctalk wrote:
> taken from the listing :
> "It was used ( I Believe ) to process Geophysical Seismic Data during the
> exploration of Oil in Bass Straight. The circuitry is all NASA standard."
On 10/23/18 11:12 AM, Jim Manley via cctalk wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 3:59 PM Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote:
>> An (optional) X server (and clients) can be added to the OS (I use them
>> all the time) but
>> is not part of the base install ...
Jim, have you ever WORKED for
On 10/24/18 10:53 AM, ben via cctalk wrote:
> I have no idea what is in a modern home computer, but I suspect
> it still follows the same design of the IBM PC. Single CPU
> with segmented memory and bit of DMA here and there.
You are out of touch, aren't you.
On 10/24/18 5:41 PM, Guy Dunphy wrote:
> A: Yes. But god knows what it costs.
> ScanFAB is a fully integrated, stand-alone, scanner- based re-engineering
> system that permits the creation of CAD data
To draw out the schematics for the Displaywriter I have a bunch of boards to
and I don't want to do the usual "scribble on yellow pad"
to do it. Has someone written a graphical tool for doing this?
What I would like to find is a tool that puts up a bunch of footprints with
On 10/27/18 9:13 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> On 10/27/18 7:37 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
>> EZ-Hook XKM
> is a breakdown. they note that Salae used to ship EZ-Hook but now ship a
On 10/28/18 9:15 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> Software is then pretty simple. Display a .1" grid of points (41x67) and each
> single-pin probe sweep is a net.
foo, I forgot about the CPU board. the grid needs to be 67x86 :-(
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