[cctalk] Re: FWIW CD & DVD demagnitizitation [was: Double Density 3.5" Floppy Disks]
On 08/05/2024 05:53, Tony Duell via cctalk wrote: [1] Apparently there's a slogan on the wall of the QUAD workshop 'Ohm's Law rules here. Oxygen-free cable is not required' That would have been back when Quad was run by Peter J. Walker who was a no-nonsense engineer. Unfortunately the company is owned by IAG Group (Shenzen, China) and has resorted to more "audiophile" oriented marketing. As to real audiophile scams, there are companies making "audiophile" ethernet switches and even special, very expensive linear power supplies for ethernet switches for those audiophiles who have switched to streaming music. Oh, and audiophile USB cables... Julf
[cctalk] Re: APL (Was: BASIC
On 02/05/2024 01:51, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: What would our world be like if the first home computers were to have had APL, instead of BASIC? I don't know, but if you had asked "What would our world be like if the first home computers were to have had SmallTalk or even ALGOL instead of BASIC?" I would have said "much better". I started out with FORTRAN and 6800 assembler, but my first real programming job was in BASIC. I am fortunate in that they thought me Pascal in university, and I then got exposed to a bunch of other real high level languages - if I hadn't, and had continued with BASIC, I would probably have ended up as a pretty crap programmer. Julf
[cctalk] Re: Charles Stross, replay the bubble of 1995, alt history plus retrocomp
On 28/04/2024 01:14, Gavin Scott via cctalk wrote: Fortunately, in the US the net wasn't run by the Post Office No, but fore a very long time the phone network was run by a government-granted monopoly, Ma Bell. Hadn't the divestiture happened, AT had their own dinosaur ideas and would have done everything they could to enforce the output of those international committees... US was also the home of AOL and several other walled gardens. But OK, this discussion is really for the internet-history list, except it has been had so many times already... Julf
[cctalk] Re: Forth on the HP 3000: Alternate History
On 16/01/2024 16:29, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: I suppose it's easier on byte-oriented machines but it seems doable on others. ANSI FORTH may be helpful for this, since it explicitly distinguishes between "character address" and "cell address" (meaning word address). Good point - that would have been helpful! Julf
[cctalk] Re: Forth on the HP 3000: Alternate History
On 16/01/2024 16:04, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: FORTH by its nature actually fits well in Harvard architectures. Indeed - but it really doesn't fit machines that aren't byte-oriented. I started on porting FIG-FORTH to the PDP-10 architecture but quickly abandoned the effort... Julf
[cctalk] Re: Getting floppy images to/from real floppy disks.
On 05/06/2023 00:37, Alexander Schreiber via cctalk wrote: Eh, this engineer strongly prefers a _practical_ car. That is why we have a Toyota Avensis station wagon - one of the last ones made. Never sold in the US. Unfortunately the successor (Camry) wich I liked because it has a linux-based entertainment system, doesn't seem to come in a station wagon variant. Julf
[cctalk] Re: The World Wide Web
On 04/05/2023 22:46, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: Any flamewars that you were reading are probably still active. I guess the site is called eternal-september for a reason :) Julf
[cctalk] Re: The World Wide Web
Thanks! Wow, they even provide UUCP batches! Julf On 04/05/2023 20:00, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: On Thu, 4 May 2023 at 18:49, Johan Helsingius via cctalk wrote: Unfortunately my local ISP doesn't run a server any more. :( I use Eternal September, via Thunderbird. Works very well. Password requirements are annoying, and the initial setup is very non-intuitive, but follow the documentation and it works. https://www.eternal-september.org/
[cctalk] Re: The World Wide Web
A shame. :( Julf On 04/05/2023 19:51, Patrick Finnegan wrote: It seems like all of the good USENET providers are subscription services now. I'm not sure of any ISP that I've heard of who still runs one. Pat On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 1:49 PM Johan Helsingius via cctalk wrote: Unfortunately my local ISP doesn't run a server any more. :( Back in the 80's I used to run the USENET (and UUCP) gateway for Finland. Julf On 04/05/2023 18:47, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: On 5/4/2023 10:35 AM, Johan Helsingius via cctalk wrote: On 04/05/2023 14:59, geneb via cctalk wrote: FidoNet is still a thing too. So is USENET. Julf I was going to jump in and say this but you beat me to it. I am involved in stuff on USENET all the time. Many groups have been destroyed and are pretty much useless but many of them are still going strong. bill
[cctalk] Re: The World Wide Web
Unfortunately my local ISP doesn't run a server any more. :( Back in the 80's I used to run the USENET (and UUCP) gateway for Finland. Julf On 04/05/2023 18:47, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: On 5/4/2023 10:35 AM, Johan Helsingius via cctalk wrote: On 04/05/2023 14:59, geneb via cctalk wrote: FidoNet is still a thing too. So is USENET. Julf I was going to jump in and say this but you beat me to it. I am involved in stuff on USENET all the time. Many groups have been destroyed and are pretty much useless but many of them are still going strong. bill
[cctalk] Re: The World Wide Web
On 04/05/2023 14:59, geneb via cctalk wrote: FidoNet is still a thing too. So is USENET. Julf
Re: Any interest in RLX blade servers
That's what I suspected. Thanks! Julf On 02-03-2021 12:26, wrco...@wrcooke.net wrote: On 03/02/2021 4:07 AM Johan Helsingius via cctalk wrote: Not sure pics make it to the list, but trying... Julf The list only allows plain text, no pictures (not even html text) Will "A person who never made a mistake never tried anything new." -- Albert Einstein
Re: Any interest in RLX blade servers
On 01-03-2021 21:53, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: I'd be interested in pictures if you have some handy. Here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/zGydaWcxE5v7ngdk7 Julf
Re: Any interest in RLX blade servers
On 01-03-2021 21:53, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: I'd be interested in pictures if you have some handy. Not sure pics make it to the list, but trying... Julf
Re: Any interest in RLX blade servers
On 01-03-2021 21:53, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: I'd be interested in pictures if you have some handy. Don't seem to be able to attach pics to messages to cctalk, but sent you a private message. Found some old stuff on the web: https://www.computerworld.com/article/2591907/ibm-agrees-to-resell-rlx-high-density-servers.html https://people.cs.vt.edu/~feng/pubs/papers/warren-sc2002-beowulf.pdf https://www.zdnet.com/article/server-blades-density-versus-flexibility/ https://www.linuxjournal.com/article/5692 Julf
Re: Any interest in RLX blade servers
On 01-03-2021 21:40, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote: Wait. Transmeta?? Which chip, specifically? I assume running in x86 mode. Crusoe (TM5600), 633 MHz Definitely in x86 mode (the blades came preconfigured with either Windows or Red Hat). Each blade could have 128, 256 or 512M of DIMM SDRAM, and have 3 network interfaces and one or two 2.5" hard disks. The chassis has two hot-swappable 450W supplies. Julf
Any interest in RLX blade servers
RLX Technologies pioneered the blade server concept between 1999 and 2005 (when they got acquired by HP). I have two of their early RLX 24 blade enclosures, one fully populated with 24 transmeta-based processor blades, and the other with 19 blades. Julf
Re: Usenet and Google Groups
On 31-01-2021 20:35, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > As my age catches up on me (more lately) I really miss many of > the people I knew in the early USENIX years. Sadly, they seem > to be fading from my memories faster every day now. Hear hear! Julf (formerly seismo!mcvax!penet!julf)
Re: misc stuff - free
On 15-12-2020 10:40, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > It's nothing new. 15y ago or something, there were umpteen Communities > on Livejournal for any conceivable subject or interest -- most created > by kids without the wits to check for others' before creating their > own. This is one of the reasons why I miss good old USENET - with a public list of groups, and a clear hierarchy. Julf
Re: misc stuff - free
On 15-12-2020 00:38, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > Would you like me to post these lists on the Facebook vintage-computer > collectors' groups for you, Don? Seems to be the usual FB problem - too many similar groups. :) Julf
Re: Regional accents and dialects (Was: The best hard drives??
On 19-11-2020 18:11, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: > They're soft but not silent in my accent. But you're from the northwest and > all > bets are off when it comes to how the pie-eaters speak. Presumably at least > the > "P" in "psalm" is silent, because that really does sound weird if not. https://www.amazon.com/Pterodactyl-Worst-Alphabet-Book-Ever/dp/1492674311 Julf
Re: About to dump a bunch of Compaq SCSI disk caddies (and disks)
(English at end) Hej! > Har du fortfarande kvar några av systemen ? Ja, en Proliant 6000, en DL380, och en tower-typ maskin med 8 diskplatser (skall kolla typen senare), och säkert 20 caddyn och hårdskivor. > Vikt (tittade pga frågan om diskarna på vad frakten från Nederländerna > skulle kosta dvs ca 250 SEK) ? Kan väga skivorna/caddyn i morgon. Maskinerna är tunga, speciellt 6000'an. For non-Swedish speakers: Yes, I still have a Proliant 6000, a DL380, and a tower-type machine with 8 disk slots (will check type later), and at least 20 caddies and disks. Will check weight of disks/caddies tomorrow. The computers are heavy, especially the 6000. Julf
Re: About to dump a bunch of Compaq SCSI disk caddies (and disks)
On 08-07-2020 12:41, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: > As a guideline, PostNL quote €18.20 (≈USD20.50) for its single grade of packet > post to "world". The 2kg weight limit is good for two or three typical 3.5" > hard disks of around 700g each. It's cheaper to the rest of Europe (and UK) > but > the 2kg limit remains for anywhere outside the Netherlands. For more than 2kg, > you're looking at expensive couriers and the price to the USA quickly rockets. Good to know! Thanks! > I'm up the road in Zaandam and could collect and test these disks, but I > already have more (3) 9GB disks than I need (0) and don't want any more if > they > don't already have homes allocated. I'm not sure I could face dealing with > eBay/Marktplaats/etc timewasters to dispose of them responsibly, even if I > were > making a nominal €10 each on them. Indeed. I too am wondering if i can be bothered. Just don't want to recycle something someone might use/need. Julf
Re: About to dump a bunch of Compaq SCSI disk caddies (and disks)
On 07-07-2020 22:58, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > I might be tempted to scratch an itch and play with the 6000 if I were at a > swap meet and could pick it up for a song. But I'm not a serious shopper for > it. Right, and shipping it anywhere will be seriously expensive considering the weight. Julf
Re: R: About to dump a bunch of Compaq SCSI disk caddies (and disks)
On 07-07-2020 17:45, Alessandro Mazzini wrote: > Flebay is quite overpriced, sadly ( personal opinion anyway, from the point > of view of someone that's now looking at finding a thing since months and is > fixated about a real price vs an enflated one Not disagreeing. Julf
Re: About to dump a bunch of Compaq SCSI disk caddies (and disks)
On 07-07-2020 17:46, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > I think I sold my last 2 or 3 before I emigrated for circa €50 each. > 5.25" HD floppy drives went for more than that. Wow! I guess I have been a bit hasty with taking stuff to recycling. :-/ Wonder if someone would be interested in either of these: https://www.cnet.com/products/compaq-proliant-6000-pii-xeon-400-mhz-monitor-none-series/ https://www.harddrivesdirect.com/quickspecs_proliant_DL380G1.php Julf
Re: About to dump a bunch of Compaq SCSI disk caddies (and disks)
On 07-07-2020 16:48, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > I would also suggest advertising or offering these online. Vintage Mac > collectors, as well as all manner of vintage UNIX box collectors, are > finding it increasingly difficult to find SCSI drives these days. Some > are happy to go with SCSI2SD but for others it lacks authenticity, or > they want the speeds, noises etc. too. Thanks - good hint. I was a bit surprised to see the prices people are asking on fleabay. Julf
Re: About to dump a bunch of Compaq SCSI disk caddies (and disks)
On 06-07-2020 23:54, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > /Which/ caddie are they? Can we see a picture of them? Both the front > visible from outside of the system and the connector(s). Pictures at https://imgur.com/a/iJU6YBH The drives are Ultra Wide 3 SCSI. I think they are the same as this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Compaq-BD009122BA-127962-001-9-1GB-10K-RPM-Wide-Ultra2-SCSI/373023236024 > I would buy them sight unseen if you ran SpinRite level 2 on the drives and > said they passed. Unfortunately I won't be able to do any testing as I am too much in the middle of trying to (urgently) clear out things. Julf
About to dump a bunch of Compaq SCSI disk caddies (and disks)
Hi! I have a box full of Compaq SCSI server disk caddies (with 9.1G disks in them). Feels silly to dump them into e-waste recycling, but there probably isn't much point in shipping them very far either (I am in Amsterdam). Julf
About to dump a bunch of Compaq SCSI disk caddies (and disks)
Hi! I have a box full of Compaq SCSI server disk caddies (with 9.1G disks in them). Feels silly to dump them into e-waste recycling, but there probably isn't much point in shipping them very far either (I am in Amsterdam). Julf
Re: Duplicate messages
On 11-06-2020 11:35, Peter Coghlan via cctech wrote: > In my experience, the only way to avoid duplicates under the current setup > is to subscribe to the cctalk view of the list and to have everyone post > only to cctalk. I think many others have worked this out too because very > few of us post to cctech now. Ah! OK, will do that! Thanks! Julf
Duplicate messages
Hi! Anyone else getting duplicate messages from this list? I get 2 copies of most (but not all) messages, with the second copy often arriving significantly later. Julf
Compaq Proliant parts
Anyone in need of a Proliant 6000 / 7000 CPU board (unused), and hotswap hard disk cartridges? https://imgur.com/a/3h9VBmH Julf
Re: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC
On 28-05-2020 19:38, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > Now, the *nix weenies who know nothing else thing you could learn > Python in a week. Yeah right. Well, I did... Julf
Re: Looking for old Suns
On 22-05-2020 23:58, Stefan Skoglund wrote: > Are they in the Netherlands ? Yes. Amsterdam. > btw är du finlandssvensk ? Jo, det är jag. :) Julf
Re: Looking for old Suns
I have a bunch of the pizza box SPARC ones that need to find a proper home, but they are somewhat special as they were the ones from one of the first pan-European Internet service providers (EUnet). Julf On 03-05-2020 17:22, silvercreekvalley via cctalk wrote: > Hi, > > Every now and again I have a bit of time to mess with old computers - and > usually for whatever reason - its Sun machines for me. > > I’ve had loads over the years, played with them and passed them on. > > Does anyone have anything old Sun wise available in the UK? I’d love to find > an old VME bus machine but anything old or interesting. I can travel > to pick stuff up etc, social distancing observed of course :D > > Anyway - PM me if you have anything that’s restorable :) > > Cheers > > Ian >
