[cctalk] Re: mainframe vs mini

2023-03-10 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 02:00:19PM -0500, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > You mean DOS/360 as opposed to OS/360? I don't know that one. DOS/360 evolved into DOS/VS, DOS/VSE, and through a few other versions eventually evolving into today's z/VSE. > But OS/360 came in three flavors: PCP, MFS,

[cctalk] Re: mainframe vs mini

2023-03-10 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
On Thu, Mar 09, 2023 at 03:51:44PM -0600, Steve Lewis via cctalk wrote: > I always considered a mainframe to basically be a "fully decked out" > minicomputer. I've always considered a fully decked out minicomputer to be a fully decked out minicomputer. :-) > What do you guys think? Or is a

Re: Burroughs Emulators (Was: UniSys ClearPath OS/2200 Express?)

2020-08-19 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
Jay, On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 08:56:53PM -0500, Jay Jaeger via cctalk wrote: > Did you try contacting that particular author? His github info > indicates it should run under Cygwin on Windows or Linux. No. I checked the github issue tracker to see if a bug report had already been filed for

Re: SimH B5500 Emulator with MCP XIII (Was: UniSys ClearPath OS/2200 Express?)

2020-08-18 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
Lars, On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 04:34:36PM +, Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk wrote: > Richard Cornwell added one to SIMH: > > https://github.com/simh/simh/tree/master/B5500 Nice. I already had a git clone of the SIMH git repo that had it in it. I probably tried unsuccessfully in the past to

Re: UniSys ClearPath OS/2200 Express?

2020-08-18 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
Jay, On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 08:46:37PM -0500, Jay Jaeger via cctalk wrote: > There are a couple of B5500 emulators out there. One I have worked with > is pretty much fully functional, but I believe there are more than one. > B5500 System Tapes are also available online. Contact me if you

Re: Adventures online

2020-07-22 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 09:52:14PM +0200, 821--- via cctalk wrote: > Almost all InfoCom adventure games now online running on a mainframe! > Telnet to 35.209.67.107 (guest/guest1) and play text mode adventure games > on a mainframe > >

Re: Unisys MCP (was: Re: UniSys ClearPath OS/2200 Express?)

2020-07-21 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 01:41:53PM -0700, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: > I have never had Windows stop working despite not activating it and have > gone at least 6 months without doing so. Despite now working for MS, I > don't know the ins and outs of Windows activation. (I work on embedded >

Re: Unisys MCP (was: Re: UniSys ClearPath OS/2200 Express?)

2020-07-03 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
Alan, On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 01:41:53PM -0700, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: > I have never had Windows stop working despite not activating it and have > gone at least 6 months without doing so. That's encouraging. > I have been using those blogs to remind myself of how it all work. As

Re: Unisys MCP (was: Re: UniSys ClearPath OS/2200 Express?)

2020-07-02 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
Alan, On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 08:00:00PM -0700, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: > Got it installed and running on a Windows 10 VM on my MacBook. Pretty > interesting, but I haven't used MCP since '89 and seldom used the ODT > (console) on A Series systems when I did, so lots of trying to recall

Re: UniSys ClearPath OS/2200 Express?

2020-07-01 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 09:17:47AM -0400, Michael Kerpan via cctalk wrote: > This thread has been truly enlightening. I had no idea that UniSys had > hobbyist versions of both their Univac and Burroughs stuff available. I'm very happy to find that MCP Express is available to hobbyists. I

Re: UniSys ClearPath OS/2200 Express?

2020-06-30 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
Alan, On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 03:29:31PM -0700, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: > Why would one get OS/2200 when they can get > https://www.unisys.com/offerings/clearpath-forward/clearpath-forward-products/clearpath-mcp-software/clearpath-mcp-express > ? > > OK, I may be a little biased since my

Re: UniSys ClearPath OS/2200 Express?

2020-06-30 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
Bill, On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 04:26:52PM -0400, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > Technically, I think it kinda qualifies. I was an old Univac-1100 > running Exec-8 programmer and I have already been told on more than > one occasion that my experience is totally up to date on the 2200.

UniSys ClearPath OS/2200 Express?

2020-06-30 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
Classic Computer Fans, Technically this isn't a classic OS, but I suspect its lineage goes back far enough to be of interest. Has anyone tried out UniSys ClearPath OS/2200 Express?

DtCYBER and/or CYBIS Resources

2020-06-01 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
Classic Computer Fans, I tried out the CYBIS release: http://www.Control-Data.info/CybisRelease.html on the DtCYBER emulator when it first came out. I've since forgotten most of what I'd learned. Recently I fired CYBIS back up and started relearning. Does anyone know if any user mailing

Prime Sample System Releases

2020-04-14 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
Prime Fans, I just noticed on comp.sys.prime that I missed a couple of sample system releases. I have a process set up to dump messages from some news groups into my IMAP server for easy reading with my mail client, but I don't have anything set up to easily reply via the news groups. Does

Re: DIBOL and RPG for RSTS

2020-03-29 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 06:55:34PM +, dwight via cctalk wrote: > It is clearly not just a backwards LISP. LISP is another language that I shied away from in the past, but finally started exploring a while back. > It is not Python either. There's another point in its favor. I've tried to

Re: DIBOL and RPG for RSTS

2020-03-28 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 06:55:34PM +, dwight via cctalk wrote: > There are a few reasons most don't like Forth: I've looked at a few example Forth programs in the past. I usually cringed and quickly moved on. I should have done a little more research back then. This thread inspired me to

Re: Prime 50-Series emulator announcement

2020-03-16 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
Dennis, On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 11:36:44AM -0400, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote: > There's a fair amount of material that we don't have packaged up for > download yet, including one or two versions of INFORMATION, some text > games, and most of a PULSE library from the Rev 17? era. The Georgia

Re: Prime 50-Series emulator announcement

2020-03-12 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
Bill, On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 02:50:46PM -0400, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > So, how do I login a regular user? Does the emulator come up with an > open port that I can telnet into to get a regular serial line? Use the emulator -tport command line option to set its incoming terminals

Re: Prime documentation

2020-03-12 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
Dennis, On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 10:51:52AM -0400, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote: > To continue through to the end of the startup process, tell it: > > CO CONTINUE 6 The system appears to have a few more issues. After the above: CO CONTINUE 6 OK,CO SYSTEM>DSM.SHARE.COMI 7

Re: Prime documentation

2020-03-12 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
Dennis, On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 09:20:08PM -0400, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote: > I was able to reproduce the issue. When I repacked these using the > Rev. 22 MAGSAV, the install worked correctly. Here's the repacked tape > set: > > https://yagi.h-net.org/m2214repack.tar.gz I was able to

Re: Prime documentation

2020-03-11 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
Dennis, On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 09:20:08PM -0400, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote: > I was able to reproduce the issue. When I repacked these using the > Rev. 22 MAGSAV, the install worked correctly. Here's the repacked tape > set: Many, many thanks!!! I'll give these a try tomorrow. For

Re: Prime documentation

2020-03-11 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
Dennis, On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 05:03:01PM -0400, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote: > These are the essential ones: > > -disk -split -part -dt -badlev > > Some of the others have less-abbreviated forms that would work, but are > not critical. > > Note that at the "Enter command line

Re: Prime documentation

2020-03-11 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
Dennis, On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 04:32:00PM -0400, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote: > Try this instead: > > $ em -boot 10005 > [Prime Emulator ver 5350ae7 Feb 17 2020] > [Copyright (C) 2005-2012 Prirun LLC pri...@gmail.com] > Booting from file mt0 > [BOOT Rev. 23.4 Copyright

Re: Prime documentation

2020-03-11 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
Dennis, On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 04:01:30PM -0400, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote: > If the disk container file is non-zero size, the make may have worked. The disk container file size is zero. > Otherwise, check the top of console.log, before the spin starts, and see > if there's anything

Re: Prime documentation

2020-03-11 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 03:22:31PM -0400, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote: > Of particular use might be this writeup on installing PRIMOS Revs 22 or > 23 on the emulator. It's set up for the old demo version of the > emulator, so needs a fair amount of updating, but may help get you > started.

Re: Prime 50-Series emulator announcement

2020-03-11 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 11:41:22AM -0400, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote: > I'm reposting this announcement from Jim Wilcoxson. > > Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime > Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2020 08:34:13 -0700 (PDT) > Subject: Prime emulator source released on GitHub > From: Jim Wilcoxson > > Today, with

Re: HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing

2020-03-09 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
On Sun, Mar 08, 2020 at 03:21:27PM -0500, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote: > IIRC there is about a two week wait from the time you get your member > number on Eisner until the number is active in the HPE database for the > Hobbyist license so you may have to wait a bit. With one of my

Re: OT - FTGH - U-Matic Tapes

2020-01-27 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 11:30:31PM +, Kevin Parker via cctalk wrote: > A we're all aware members on this list often dabble with other > technologies. In my very aggressive cleanup of my hobby space I came > across a number of U-Matic Video Tapes. If anyone is into this older > video

Re: Is IBM RPG classic?

2019-12-17 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 03:25:26PM -0600, Kevin Monceaux via cctalk wrote: > It depends on the version and platform. For free format on an IBM i, > something like: Another good resource for modern IBM i RPG is the RPG400-L mailing list: https://Lists.MidRange.com/mailman/listinfo/rp

Re: Is IBM RPG classic?

2019-12-16 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 08:40:29AM -0800, Guy N. via cctalk wrote: > Is it classic enough to ask about on this list? Older fixed format RPG probably would be. Modern free format RPG probably wouldn't be. > A friend of mine finds himself in the awkward position of being asked to > take on some

Re: Tandem Minicomputers

2019-10-03 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
Jason, On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 11:46:03PM -0500, Jason T via cctalk wrote: > There's such as thing as "so obscure that no one knows/cares about > it". I've had those before. Do I have another? It sure is heavy. I've been curious about Tandem systems for years. I had the opportunity to use

Re: phone systems, old and less-old

2019-09-19 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 11:23:38AM -0700, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > What's in a name? Accuracy. > It looked gray to me. Me too. But enough videos that I watched featured individuals who felt compelled to emphasize that were telco cables are concerned, the colors are violet and slate,

Re: phone systems, old and less-old

2019-09-19 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 09:05:07PM -0700, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > 25 pairs, where > > White Red Black Yellow Violet for each "bank" and within each bank > Blue Orange Green Brown Gray >From what I've heard and read, where a 25 pair cable is concerned, it's slate, not gray. --

Re: phone systems, old and less-old

2019-09-19 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 06:34:55PM -0700, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > You have to be OLD to have used these? Golly, maybe I really am OLD. No. I encountered similar phones at a Service Merchandise I worked at in the early '90s. They were connected to some type of early PBX system. I

Re: phone systems, old and less-old

2019-09-18 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 01:32:21PM -0500, jwest--- via cctalk wrote: > I know zilch about phone systems, and don’t want to know anything about > phone systems  They were on the wall of a warehouse telco closet that my > client just rented and we need the space on the dmarc wall for a rack. If >

Re: Storage for 1/2" open reel tape

2019-04-08 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
On Fri, Apr 05, 2019 at 10:57:54AM -0700, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > I hit on the idea of using 16mm move film plastic "cans". Much to my > surprise, I found that there is still an active market for these things. My small 16mm collection is stored on an open reel tape cart. -- Kevin

Re: IBM 3174 C 6.4 Microcode Disks?

2019-03-05 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
Grant, On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 04:02:33PM -0700, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > Why do there need to be 10 VTAM/SNA nodes defined for the RS/6000? > Wouldn't it be one node unto itself, much like a 3174, with the 10 > VTAM/SNA nodes for the terminals behind it? Our RS/6000 running

Re: IBM 3174 C 6.4 Microcode Disks?

2019-02-20 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
Grant, On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 07:36:11PM -0700, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > If the 2513 you have is the one that was used for this, I'd love to see > the config, if it's still on there. That would very likely settle > things for my curiosity. I have the 2513 now. I'm new to Cisco

Re: Free: 2x DEC Alpha workstations - 164LX and XP1000

2019-02-19 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
Arun, On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 11:26:41AM -0600, K. Arun via cctalk wrote: > I have a couple of Alpha workstations that were last used 5-6 years ago > with some version of Tru64 on them. They haven't been turned on since, and > may need some work to get running again. They're free to anyone who

Re: OT: Phone museum seeks new owner

2019-02-19 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 09:58:00AM -0600, John Foust via cctalk wrote: > Old tech, but not computers: I have a fondness for old rotary dial phones, especially ones like they used in movies and TV shows set in the '40s and '50s. I've never managed to acquire one. I'd love to have a few of

Re: OT: Phone museum seeks new owner

2019-02-19 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 09:58:00AM -0600, John Foust via cctalk wrote: > Old tech, but not computers: > > https://madison.com/business/galesville-antique-phone-dealers-looking-to-offload-vast-collection/article_b1845009-c861-50ff-82c8-60a15866fc6d.html Interesting, but what does it have to do

Re: IBM 3174 C 6.4 Microcode Disks?

2019-02-18 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
Grant, On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 11:05:23PM -0700, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > Is that by chance a 9291? Looks like a white / bage box with a grey > strip on the front with lights or buttons and a serial port and ""phone > (PSTN) network jack on the back? Checking our hardware list it

Re: IBM 3174 C 6.4 Microcode Disks?

2019-02-16 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
Grant, On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 07:36:11PM -0700, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > I'm running into collisions with IBM 9121 and mainframe components. > Even that is vague. I'm not having nearly the luck I usually do looking > up IBM four digit model numbers. The 9121 voice server connected

Re: IBM 3174 C 6.4 Microcode Disks?

2019-02-15 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
Jim, On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 11:37:34PM -0600, Jim Stefanik via cctalk wrote: > As for my system, I've got a z800 (a 2066-0A1 to be exact). Nice!! > It's got ESCON, so I've got an Optica converter box of which the model > number escapes me; but it's the replacement/alternative to the IBM

Re: IBM 3174 C 6.4 Microcode Disks?

2019-02-14 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
Jim, On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 10:23:30PM -0600, Jim Stefanik via cctalk wrote: > Simon Systems should be able to get you the microcode diskettes. I think > they charged me around $35 USD when I bought in Nov. 2017.  Send them an > email and let them know what you need. Thanks!! I'll check with

Re: IBM 3174 C 6.4 Microcode Disks?

2019-02-14 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
Grant, On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 08:52:25PM -0700, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > Nice haul. I also acquired an RS/6000 7012-340, its 7208 8mm tape drive, and a couple of 9121 voice servers. It used to run DirectTalk/6000. > You mentioned telnet, which largely implies TCP/IP, which in

IBM 3174 C 6.4 Microcode Disks?

2019-02-14 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
Classic Computer Fans, I posted this to the IBM-Legacy-Hercules mailing list. I just realized it probably wouldn't hurt to post it here too. I'm finally in possession of a box that hopefully is capable or can be made capable of connecting a real terminal to Hercules. It's a 3174 11L. It was

Re: MicroVAX I

2018-08-14 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 06:59:06PM +0100, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: > Even though the 730 is also pretty slow, I would love to have one if > anyone in the UK has one going spare I'd love to come across one needing a good home in my neck of the woods some day myself, or even more so an