HP 2000 /2100 emulator ?

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

I will soon have a teletype model 35 all cleaned up and running
Why like is some suggestions for something I can put in the base and
emulate an HP 2000 or even in modern 2100 my goal is nothing serious I'd
love to be able to do HP basic and find the version of Star Trek I think
that was the name of the game just show I can demonstrate the friends how
cool these machines were.

If I could have my dream come true the emulator would be on a little SBC
running Linux t
Or even a simple OS that upon being powered up it would display login or
was that log on on the teletype pretty much having the coat hard-coated but
still having an area for saving files.

Thanks and thanks for all the previous assistance members of this group of
this list have given me

HP 2000 / 2100 emulator

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

Here's what I'd like to do. I have both a teletype 33 and 35. What would be
fun is the foot in the pedestal a emulator that lets me pretend I am
logging into a 2000 or 2100 and I can do basic and save files. One of those
files being what I think was called to Star Wars or something like that.
Basically replay my youth on a 35 which I had access to before 33.

Re: Got a kidney!

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

That's great news I had myself set up as a doner on anything they wanted.
But in February I was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer which disqualify me
as an organ donor for obvious reasons.

I'm still so amazed how few people our donors here in Oregon you just have
the back of your driver's license checked off just simple as that like I
said it boggles the mind that's so few people are donors.

Again congratulations

On Mon, Jul 23, 2018, 6:04 PM Jon Elson via cctalk 
wrote:

> On 07/22/2018 03:59 PM, Daniel Seagraves via cctalk wrote:
> > Status update:
> >
> > They let me go home Thursday but I was too wiped out to post about it.
> Things are still pretty fluid, there were some complications, but they’re
> being managed. I was on the waitlist for 5 years and 4 months, they listed
> me immediately on diagnosis. I got the transplant through OSF, they are one
> of the better hospitals here in downstate Illinois. That they have
> maintained that status given the state’s extreme distress should say all
> that need be said.
> >
> > All the well-wishes are extremely appreciated. Friday the 13th now has a
> whole new meaning.
> >
> >
> All the best!  it may be a long haul to get back to full
> operation, but having one good kidney is WAY better than zero!
>
> Jon
>
>

Re: Making a bootable LIF CD for the 9000/382

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

I've stayed with the Toshibas although I have a Sony that supports the
block size as well. The thing to do is look for external CD-ROMs from like
SUN DEC etc. Or from the SUN 3800 I need to get rid of.

On Fri, Jul 6, 2018, 9:49 AM Al Kossow via cctalk 
wrote:

> Couple of related things, does anyone have a list of SCSI CDROMs known to
> boot on the 68K 9000s?
> I've ordered another A1999 to see if my drive is just bad, and have
> started digging through my
> boxes of drives for other models to test.
>
> Has anyone come across an archive of SCSI CDROM technical manuals (ie.
> what commands they support)?
>
> I have one manual for the Toshiba ca. 1990 which is up on bitsavers.
> Another one of those things
> I should have been collecting, along with a bunch of different CDROM
> drives while Weird Stuff still existed.
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Looking for Tektronix 4051 or 4052 Display Board

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

Yes but they're in pretty bad shape the units are under a tarp in a Briar
Patch for about 2 years in the Pacific Northwest. Amazingly enough one of
the deflection boards had enough working parts the CPU board for the 4051
was so corroded the lids fell off the chips. I only kept them to offer the
CRTs.

On Tue, Jul 3, 2018, 2:25 PM Monty McGraw  wrote:

> Pete,
>
> Thanks for checking on the display board.
>
> Are any of the other boards, power supplies or keyboards left in the 4051
> or 4052?
>
> Monty
>
> On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 4:19 PM, Pete Lancashire via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>> -- Forwarded message -
>> From: Pete Lancashire 
>> Date: Tue, Jul 3, 2018, 2:18 PM
>> Subject: Re: Looking for Tektronix 4051 or 4052 Display Board
>> To: Monty McGraw 
>>
>>
>> Yeah the two display boards went to Europe.
>>
>> If anybody needs three perfectly good 11 inch CRTs, deflection yolks
>> excetera come to Portland Oregon and they're yours or have somebody pick
>> them up for you they're in the scrap pile and scrap is going in about a
>> month. Each CRT contains about $35 worth of gold.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2018, 2:12 PM Monty McGraw  wrote:
>>
>> > Pete,
>> >
>> > I'm in Texas near Houston.
>> >
>> > The Display Board is the vertical board to the left of the CRT.  It has
>> > several cables at the bottom to pin headers and the cable to the neck of
>> > the CRT.
>> > It also has connectors to the power transistors that simply unplug when
>> > you remove the Display Board.
>> >
>> > Here is a picture of a display board:
>> >
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bxd4qJinVzkNOFZacFZSYVJwaHc/view?usp=sharing
>> >
>> > Monty
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 4:01 PM, Pete Lancashire <
>> p...@petelancashire.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Is 206 Washington ? I have the remains of a 4051 4052 and 4010 terminal
>> >> sitting outside in the scrap pile. Parts have gone to Europe but
>> they're
>> >> still pieces left over
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> They were about 25 miles west of Portland Oregon.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jul 3, 2018, 1:35 PM Ian Finder via cctalk <
>> cctalk@classiccmp.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> These systems are rare enough that it's probably worth fixing instead
>> of
>> >>> treating the board as a simple FRU. There are schematics on bitsavers
>> for
>> >>> that board, and they are complete.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 1:21 PM, Monty McGraw via cctalk <
>> >>> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> > I've been repairing my Tektronix 4052.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I've got the digital logic working - but the text and graphics are
>> >>> messed
>> >>> > up.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I posted photos of the screens in my Tektronix 4052 troubleshooting
>> >>> thread
>> >>> > on vcfed.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > With a scope on the final X amplifier stage - it is oscillating -
>> so I
>> >>> see
>> >>> > weird horizontal strokes instead of dots for text.  I know from the
>> >>> service
>> >>> > manual that this circuit includes a feedback loop, and with the
>> scope
>> >>> I see
>> >>> > oscillation all around the loop - so I haven't found the source.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Does anyone have a spare Tektronix 4052 (or 4051) Display Board
>> that I
>> >>> > could buy?
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Thanks,
>> >>> > Monty
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>>Ian Finder
>> >>>(206) 395-MIPS
>> >>>ian.fin...@gmail.com
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >
>>
>
>

Fwd: Looking for Tektronix 4051 or 4052 Display Board

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

-- Forwarded message -
From: Pete Lancashire 
Date: Tue, Jul 3, 2018, 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: Looking for Tektronix 4051 or 4052 Display Board
To: Monty McGraw 


Yeah the two display boards went to Europe.

If anybody needs three perfectly good 11 inch CRTs, deflection yolks
excetera come to Portland Oregon and they're yours or have somebody pick
them up for you they're in the scrap pile and scrap is going in about a
month. Each CRT contains about $35 worth of gold.

On Tue, Jul 3, 2018, 2:12 PM Monty McGraw  wrote:

> Pete,
>
> I'm in Texas near Houston.
>
> The Display Board is the vertical board to the left of the CRT.  It has
> several cables at the bottom to pin headers and the cable to the neck of
> the CRT.
> It also has connectors to the power transistors that simply unplug when
> you remove the Display Board.
>
> Here is a picture of a display board:
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bxd4qJinVzkNOFZacFZSYVJwaHc/view?usp=sharing
>
> Monty
>
> On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 4:01 PM, Pete Lancashire 
> wrote:
>
>> Is 206 Washington ? I have the remains of a 4051 4052 and 4010 terminal
>> sitting outside in the scrap pile. Parts have gone to Europe but they're
>> still pieces left over
>>
>>
>> They were about 25 miles west of Portland Oregon.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2018, 1:35 PM Ian Finder via cctalk 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> These systems are rare enough that it's probably worth fixing instead of
>>> treating the board as a simple FRU. There are schematics on bitsavers for
>>> that board, and they are complete.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 1:21 PM, Monty McGraw via cctalk <
>>> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> > I've been repairing my Tektronix 4052.
>>> >
>>> > I've got the digital logic working - but the text and graphics are
>>> messed
>>> > up.
>>> >
>>> > I posted photos of the screens in my Tektronix 4052 troubleshooting
>>> thread
>>> > on vcfed.
>>> >
>>> > With a scope on the final X amplifier stage - it is oscillating - so I
>>> see
>>> > weird horizontal strokes instead of dots for text.  I know from the
>>> service
>>> > manual that this circuit includes a feedback loop, and with the scope
>>> I see
>>> > oscillation all around the loop - so I haven't found the source.
>>> >
>>> > Does anyone have a spare Tektronix 4052 (or 4051) Display Board that I
>>> > could buy?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Monty
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>Ian Finder
>>>(206) 395-MIPS
>>>ian.fin...@gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>

Re: Looking for Tektronix 4051 or 4052 Display Board

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

Is 206 Washington ? I have the remains of a 4051 4052 and 4010 terminal
sitting outside in the scrap pile. Parts have gone to Europe but they're
still pieces left over


They were about 25 miles west of Portland Oregon.



On Tue, Jul 3, 2018, 1:35 PM Ian Finder via cctalk 
wrote:

> These systems are rare enough that it's probably worth fixing instead of
> treating the board as a simple FRU. There are schematics on bitsavers for
> that board, and they are complete.
>
> On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 1:21 PM, Monty McGraw via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> > I've been repairing my Tektronix 4052.
> >
> > I've got the digital logic working - but the text and graphics are messed
> > up.
> >
> > I posted photos of the screens in my Tektronix 4052 troubleshooting
> thread
> > on vcfed.
> >
> > With a scope on the final X amplifier stage - it is oscillating - so I
> see
> > weird horizontal strokes instead of dots for text.  I know from the
> service
> > manual that this circuit includes a feedback loop, and with the scope I
> see
> > oscillation all around the loop - so I haven't found the source.
> >
> > Does anyone have a spare Tektronix 4052 (or 4051) Display Board that I
> > could buy?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Monty
> >
>
>
>
> --
>Ian Finder
>(206) 395-MIPS
>ian.fin...@gmail.com
>
>

Re: More tapes - This time all Tektronix 405x series

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

a few months ago i had about 20 4051/4052 tapes. if i still do i can send
them to you

On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 5:53 AM Monty McGraw via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> I was successfull at capturing all the files from a 4051 Graphics T1 tape
> last weekend.
>
> Here is the link to a couple of photos of the process:
>
> Capturing Tektronix 4051 Graphics T1 tape files to laptop
> 
>
> First I replaced the disintegrated drive belt with one from a NOS 3M DC6250
> cartridge.
>
> I used my 4051 to PC serial transfer program on my recently repaired and
> upgraded 4054A.
>
> I set the comm speed of the 4054 serial interface to the maximum 9600 baud,
> but as it is 7-bit, my program changes all 32 Tektronix control characters
> to "~X~" where X is the ASCII character corresponding to that control
> character.
>
> This way I don't lose any of the Tektronix 405x text formatting in the
> transfer.
>
> I was using ExtraPutty on the laptop to capture the program text strings,
> then copied the statements into Notepad++ and saved each file.
>
> I am also working on a Tektronix 4051/52/54 compatible GPIB MicroSD flash
> drive that will emulate the Tektronix 4924 tape drive - for all of us with
> these computers to use - since both the tapes and drives are very
> problematic after all these years.
>
> This flash drive contains an Arduino with my code - based on the GPIB
> flowcharts and info in a 4051 and 4052 GPIB manual.
>
> You will be able to use the existing 405x program statements with @Y for
> the drive GPIB address - since I don't know how to write a ROMPACK for any
> of the series :)
>
> I plan to organize the different captured tapes in directories on the flash
> - and that may mean using a non-4924 GPIB secondary address for that
> command.  It also likely means I need to change any tape commands in each
> program to use the flash drive GPIB address.
>
> That's why I wanted to capture one of the Tektronix tapes with a menu - is
> to ensure I could get those files to work on my flash drive design.
>
> Monty McGraw
>
>

Re: Motorola EXORciser M6800 System

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

Total congratulations

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018, 2:10 PM Thomas B via cctech 
wrote:

> Since a few days, my EXORciser Development System is finally able to boot
> from floppy diskettes.
>
> Previous attempts have shown that the Motorola EXORciser M68SFDC1 floppy
> disk board used has a special modified ROM version. This was probably
> written for an 8-inch drive, in which the Write protect and Direction
> signal were inverted.
> For the sake of simplicity, I have used free inverter on the board to
> invert the signals accordingly.
> After adjusting the PLL frequency, reads and writes from the card are now
> error-free. And all without FDC, only clever programming by Motorola
> software engineers in the early 76’
>
> Originally, the EXORdisk system was a dual drive with two 8 "units. This I
> have replaced with a double drive of two 5.25 inch units. An Epson and a
> TEAC, which can be jumpered to 360 rpm. Luckily, 2HD floppy disks are easy
> to R
> I also got a GOTEK floppy emulator running, which I can boot from. Thanks
> to Roland Huisman, Bitsaver has some interesting floppy disks that convert
> to HFE format work perfectly. This format makes the Gotek drive most
> reliable.
>
> Now to my question. The vintage computer forum at
> http://www.vcfed.org/forum/archive/index.php/t-44638.html mentioned some
> interesting manuals. Archive.org has some manuals, Bitsaver does not have
> manuals about the M6800 development system.
> If someone already owns scanned manuals to the following list
>
> M6800 Basic Interpreter Reference Manual
> M6800 Macro Assembler reference Manual
> M68SFDU Exordisk 11/111 Disk `Drive Unit Maintenance Manual
> M6800 Exorciser 11 User's Guide
> M6800 Exorciser User's Guide
> MEX68PP1 PROM Programmer Module Supplement M6800 Exorciser User's Guide
>
> I would welcome any feedback or questions
>
> --THOMAS
>
>

Re: Next 'stack' of computers to go, IBM p7's - not classics this time

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

The p720s etc. have found a new home.

On Sat, May 12, 2018, 5:28 AM Pete Lancashire 
wrote:

> This time not so 'classic'
>
> My last job was maintaining IBM p7's and eventually p8's.
>
> One thing I started was putting together a home setup. But like all the
> other
> projects the gear has become redundant to me.
>
> The 'stack' consists of 2 each IBM p720's, a CR6 HMC, and a KVM drawer.
>
> The p720 do NOT have any hard drives or carriers, but both are available
> via
> Ebay. The carrier was used in more than one model, and in the past I've
> bought carriers with small disks for < $20 each, then found larger disks of
> various brands.
>
> And the rails are missing from the p720's.
>
> Google "ibm p720"
>
> I can't remember how much RAM, number of CPUs etc but one p720 was
> 'loaded'.
>
> If interested let me know and
>
> If anyone knows a good AIX list please let me know
>
> I'll try to get a few photo's this weekend.
>
> The 'stack' is located in Portland, Oregon.
>
> NO PACKING OR SHIPPING, must be local pickup.
>
>
> -pete
>
>
>
>

Re: Original CAD code in the wild?

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

As I clean out if I run across the nine track mag tape of TekCADand
mechanical 2D CAD package you can have it. It is source code of 80 column
cards of Fortran IV.

On Tue, May 22, 2018, 4:37 PM Tomasz Rola via cctalk 
wrote:

> On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 02:31:58AM +, Randy Dawson via cctalk wrote:
> [...]
> >
> > www.cadhistory.net
> >
> > The Engineering Design Revolution
> > www.cadhistory.net
> > The Engineering Design Revolution. The People, Companies and
> > Computer Systems That Changed Forever the Practice of
> > Engineering. By. David E. Weisberg
>
> Looks interesting. Thanks a lot for bringing this up.
>
> > My question is, did any of the source code for these systems,
> > Applicon, Auto-Trol, Calma, ComputerVision, thousands of lines of
> > primarily FORTRAN ever make it out, where we could read and study
> > this original body of mathematical geometry done on computers?
>
> I suspect you already know, but just to be sure:
>
> "The BRL-CAD source code repository is the oldest known public
> version-controlled codebase in the world that's still under active
> development, dating back to 1983-12-16 00:10:31."
>
> [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRL-CAD ]
>
> I could not verify this claim, because I could not load SourceForge
> page before my patience ran out (thank you, Javascript, I guess).
>
> --
> Regards,
> Tomasz Rola
>
> --
> ** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature.  **
> ** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home**
> ** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened...  **
> ** **
> ** Tomasz Rola  mailto:tomasz_r...@bigfoot.com **
>
>

Re: Next 'stack' of computers to go, IBM p7's - not classics this time

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

I have used Pak Mail in the past where they have come out the stuff
vanishes and eventually gets delivered.

But unless I hear from somebody that they're willing to offer some money
for this stack I'm not going to go through the process for $100. By the way
I'm not asking much more than that local pickup.

Today or sometime this weekend they're going to go out on the back porch
with a tarp over them.

And when that pile gets too big my estate will determine what to do with
the stuff.





On Sat, May 19, 2018, 4:50 AM Robert via cctalk 
wrote:

> > Noel Chiappa wrote:
> >
> > https://www.pakmail.com/
>
> I'll second Noel's point about Pakmail. I used them to send a big
> AS/400 to Canada once. They charged $200 for the 250 mile round trip
> to collect it, plus crating & freight.
>
> In fact, if Mark doesn't go for it I may be tempted...
>
> Robert
>
>

Re: Next 'stack' of computers to go, IBM p7's - not classics this time

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

Yeah another time another place I would but now one even has to load them
themselves I can't move anything anymore. I'll even toss two wheeled cart
they are on

On Sat, May 19, 2018, 12:00 AM Mark Linimon via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 11:42:52PM -0700, Pete Lancashire via cctalk wrote:
> > Last call is there any interest ?
>
> Would love to if you can change your mind on shipping?
>
> Austin, TX, is kind of a far drive.
>
> mcl
>
>

Re: Next 'stack' of computers to go, IBM p7's - not classics this time

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

Last call is there any interest ?

On Fri, May 18, 2018, 8:14 AM Pete Lancashire 
wrote:

> The serial numbers
>
> p720
>
> 8202-E4B 106AD5P
> 8202-E4B 106AD6P
>
> HMC
>
> 7042-CR4  10-72F0B
>
> On Sat, May 12, 2018, 5:28 AM Pete Lancashire 
> wrote:
>
>> This time not so 'classic'
>>
>> My last job was maintaining IBM p7's and eventually p8's.
>>
>> One thing I started was putting together a home setup. But like all the
>> other
>> projects the gear has become redundant to me.
>>
>> The 'stack' consists of 2 each IBM p720's, a CR6 HMC, and a KVM drawer.
>>
>> The p720 do NOT have any hard drives or carriers, but both are available
>> via
>> Ebay. The carrier was used in more than one model, and in the past I've
>> bought carriers with small disks for < $20 each, then found larger disks
>> of
>> various brands.
>>
>> And the rails are missing from the p720's.
>>
>> Google "ibm p720"
>>
>> I can't remember how much RAM, number of CPUs etc but one p720 was
>> 'loaded'.
>>
>> If interested let me know and
>>
>> If anyone knows a good AIX list please let me know
>>
>> I'll try to get a few photo's this weekend.
>>
>> The 'stack' is located in Portland, Oregon.
>>
>> NO PACKING OR SHIPPING, must be local pickup.
>>
>>
>> -pete
>>
>>
>>
>>

Re: Next 'stack' of computers to go, IBM p7's - not classics this time

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

The serial numbers

p720

8202-E4B 106AD5P
8202-E4B 106AD6P

HMC

7042-CR4  10-72F0B

On Sat, May 12, 2018, 5:28 AM Pete Lancashire 
wrote:

> This time not so 'classic'
>
> My last job was maintaining IBM p7's and eventually p8's.
>
> One thing I started was putting together a home setup. But like all the
> other
> projects the gear has become redundant to me.
>
> The 'stack' consists of 2 each IBM p720's, a CR6 HMC, and a KVM drawer.
>
> The p720 do NOT have any hard drives or carriers, but both are available
> via
> Ebay. The carrier was used in more than one model, and in the past I've
> bought carriers with small disks for < $20 each, then found larger disks of
> various brands.
>
> And the rails are missing from the p720's.
>
> Google "ibm p720"
>
> I can't remember how much RAM, number of CPUs etc but one p720 was
> 'loaded'.
>
> If interested let me know and
>
> If anyone knows a good AIX list please let me know
>
> I'll try to get a few photo's this weekend.
>
> The 'stack' is located in Portland, Oregon.
>
> NO PACKING OR SHIPPING, must be local pickup.
>
>
> -pete
>
>
>
>

Re: 6130B

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

I just remembered I designed and prototype a replacement D/A board but it
never got finished the client changed his mind

On Thu, May 17, 2018, 1:38 PM Pete Lancashire 
wrote:

> A different lifetime I used to use 6130s and it's cousins. We had them
> connected to pdp-11s. We actually built our own version of an io board that
> looked like 4 DR11s
>
> I no longer have the board that I do have a couple the supplies that if
> you're in Portland Oregon let me know and I'll sell them at a very
> reasonable price. I'll let
>
> On Wed, May 16, 2018, 11:49 PM Curious Marc via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>> That's the guy I got my 6130B from.
>> Marc
>>
>> > On May 16, 2018, at 6:18 PM, Glen Slick via cctalk <
>> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > That seller has listed the 6130B and two 6131B a few times. Since
>> > those are in Seattle I should see if the seller allows local pickup as
>> > the listed shipping costs are higher than the item costs. Maybe grab
>> > all three and hope at least one of them can be made to work.
>> >
>> > On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 5:13 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk
>> >  wrote:
>> >> just showed up
>> >>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-6130B-Digital-Voltage-Source-50-Volts-1-Amp/202315039951
>> >>
>>
>>

Re: 6130B

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

A different lifetime I used to use 6130s and it's cousins. We had them
connected to pdp-11s. We actually built our own version of an io board that
looked like 4 DR11s

I no longer have the board that I do have a couple the supplies that if
you're in Portland Oregon let me know and I'll sell them at a very
reasonable price. I'll let

On Wed, May 16, 2018, 11:49 PM Curious Marc via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> That's the guy I got my 6130B from.
> Marc
>
> > On May 16, 2018, at 6:18 PM, Glen Slick via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> > That seller has listed the 6130B and two 6131B a few times. Since
> > those are in Seattle I should see if the seller allows local pickup as
> > the listed shipping costs are higher than the item costs. Maybe grab
> > all three and hope at least one of them can be made to work.
> >
> > On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 5:13 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk
> >  wrote:
> >> just showed up
> >>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-6130B-Digital-Voltage-Source-50-Volts-1-Amp/202315039951
> >>
>
>

Re: Next 'stack' of computers to go, IBM p7's - not classics this time

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

And I almost bid on the 2 CEC p770's until I looked at the power
consumption the way I had them configured. 768 GB RAM and I think 24 cores,
I would have had to add a new circuit to the room.



On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 8:46 AM, Mazzini Alessandro <mazzi...@tin.it> wrote:

> 48.x KG for the rack version, according to the redbook.
>
> Reminds me of the time I fell into an open traphole with a portable AS/400
> in hand. The concrete chipped... the AS didn't have even a scratch in the
> paint
>
> -Messaggio originale-
> Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] Per conto di Pete
> Lancashire via cctalk
> Inviato: sabato 12 maggio 2018 16:31
> A: Noel Chiappa; General
> Oggetto: Re: Next 'stack' of computers to go, IBM p7's - not classics this
> time
>
> Noel is right there is Pak Mail. But Pak Mail is not cheap and these
> suckers weight a lot my guest is stack is about 300 lbs
>
> On Sat, May 12, 2018, 6:28 AM Noel Chiappa via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org>
> wrote:
>
> > > From: Pete Lancashire
> >
> > > NO PACKING OR SHIPPING, must be local pickup.
> >
> > Just a reminded to everyone; most PakMail franchises are prepared to go
> > somewhere off-site, pick items up where they sit, and then pack them;
> I've
> > used this service several times for 'pick up only' items.
> >
> > Noel
> >
> >
>
>
>

Re: Next 'stack' of computers to go, IBM p7's - not classics this time

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

I was asked about configuration. Everything nowadays is a bit foggy but one
of the p720 s I had converted to a split back plane and was running it with
a pair of VIO serves it is also setup for Enterprise VM. It also has fiber
cards to go to a SAN The other was a standalone DR that's the one that's
pretty loaded sadly the disk we're pulled and it had over a terabyte of
hard drives. The last time I looked it would run you less than $500 to fill
both of them with hard drives and carriers

I guess I have to say no software is included.



On Sat, May 12, 2018, 5:28 AM Pete Lancashire 
wrote:

> This time not so 'classic'
>
> My last job was maintaining IBM p7's and eventually p8's.
>
> One thing I started was putting together a home setup. But like all the
> other
> projects the gear has become redundant to me.
>
> The 'stack' consists of 2 each IBM p720's, a CR6 HMC, and a KVM drawer.
>
> The p720 do NOT have any hard drives or carriers, but both are available
> via
> Ebay. The carrier was used in more than one model, and in the past I've
> bought carriers with small disks for < $20 each, then found larger disks of
> various brands.
>
> And the rails are missing from the p720's.
>
> Google "ibm p720"
>
> I can't remember how much RAM, number of CPUs etc but one p720 was
> 'loaded'.
>
> If interested let me know and
>
> If anyone knows a good AIX list please let me know
>
> I'll try to get a few photo's this weekend.
>
> The 'stack' is located in Portland, Oregon.
>
> NO PACKING OR SHIPPING, must be local pickup.
>
>
> -pete
>
>
>
>

Re: Next 'stack' of computers to go, IBM p7's - not classics this time

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

Noel is right there is Pak Mail. But Pak Mail is not cheap and these
suckers weight a lot my guest is stack is about 300 lbs

On Sat, May 12, 2018, 6:28 AM Noel Chiappa via cctalk 
wrote:

> > From: Pete Lancashire
>
> > NO PACKING OR SHIPPING, must be local pickup.
>
> Just a reminded to everyone; most PakMail franchises are prepared to go
> somewhere off-site, pick items up where they sit, and then pack them; I've
> used this service several times for 'pick up only' items.
>
> Noel
>
>

Next 'stack' of computers to go, IBM p7's - not classics this time

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

This time not so 'classic'

My last job was maintaining IBM p7's and eventually p8's.

One thing I started was putting together a home setup. But like all the
other
projects the gear has become redundant to me.

The 'stack' consists of 2 each IBM p720's, a CR6 HMC, and a KVM drawer.

The p720 do NOT have any hard drives or carriers, but both are available via
Ebay. The carrier was used in more than one model, and in the past I've
bought carriers with small disks for < $20 each, then found larger disks of
various brands.

And the rails are missing from the p720's.

Google "ibm p720"

I can't remember how much RAM, number of CPUs etc but one p720 was
'loaded'.

If interested let me know and

If anyone knows a good AIX list please let me know

I'll try to get a few photo's this weekend.

The 'stack' is located in Portland, Oregon.

NO PACKING OR SHIPPING, must be local pickup.


-pete

Re: Sparc Laptops

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

Next time I am in the storage building, I will bring the box marked
"Tadpole" home with me and see how much is inside it.

Then will see about finding it a new home

May take a month 

-pete

On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 10:08 AM, Bill Degnan via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> I have a pretty cool DEC 486 laptop.  I am unsure if they made a Pentium
> laptop before they were bought out.
> http://www.vintagecomputer.net/digital/DECpc_433SLC/
> DECpc_433SLC_Premium_open2.jpg
> b
>
> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Zane Healy via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > > On May 9, 2018, at 2:18 AM, Pontus Pihlgren via cctalk <
> > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Let's hope that can change and we can save some of them. Anything
> > > non-x86 from Tadpole is interesting for many here I think. I would love
> > > an Alphabook!
> > >
> > > http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/det/47766/Tadpole-Alphabook-1/
> > >
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > > Pontus
> >
> > I dream of owning an Alphabook.  It’s a silly dream, but it’s one I dream
> > anyway.
> >
> > I have a Sparcbook 3GS (I think that’s the model) somewhere.
> >
> > Zane
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Old core memory system.

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

Core temp was a big issue even in commercial environments. You didn't see
it temp but you would see core [driver] current.

My 360/50 panel has the ability to monitor and adjust in real time the core
current.

Military or extreme environment core was a bitch to keep working. I worked
on a system designed to go in a Army tank and
I came in late but remember we had to test the system from -55 F to 155 F,
and the core was the biggest trouble maker.

-pete

On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 9:50 AM, Jules Richardson via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On 05/05/2018 04:57 AM, Mattis Lind via cctalk wrote:
>
>> It could be flight control related since it is aviation museum that
>> currently have it.
>>
>
> Hmm, 'stack heater' caught my eye... I'm not particularly familiar with
> core setups, but I didn't think that was a common thing, suggesting the
> possibility of a cold environment - immediate thought on the back of that
> was something on a plane.
>
>
>
>

Re: Picked up stuff from Pete's

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

Almost forgot. In another location are 5 to 6 DEC disk arrays, most filled
with 14 disks. 3 went with one of the DSs, thats why the dual
SCSI cards. There are at least 20-40 loose disks from 36 to 300 GB. Some
never used, boxes of SCSI cables etc.

It will just take time.

-pete

On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 7:32 AM, Pete Lancashire 
wrote:

> I am glad they got rescued.
>
> On the Alpha stuff, I will over the next month, put all the Tru64 and
> OpenVMS CD sets, documentation and hardware licenses into on pile.
>
> I would like to find a destination that will / can redistribute the CD's
> etc. I don't want to them and the licenses get
> put into the hands of one individual and never to be seen again.
>
> Suggestions ?
>
> -pete
>
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 4:33 PM, Alan Perry via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>> For those follow the rescue of equipment from Pete Lancashire's place
>> outside of Portland ...
>>
>> I went out there last Friday. Pete was unavailable, so a friend of his
>> let me and showed me where to avoid stepping.
>>
>> The amount of stuff there was impressive/amazing/overwhelming. Aside
>> from the test equipment and old telecom equipment that was pointed out when
>> I was shown around, it was hard to focus on one thing because I would
>> immediately see something else interesting that grabbed my attention.
>>
>> I picked up seven Sun SPARC systems and three Compaq-branded Alpha
>> systems.
>>
>> The Alpha systems all went to a local (Seattle) person who is talking to
>> Bill Gunshannon about possibly getting one out to him. One of the Alphas
>> was a DS20 deskside and I never figured out what the other two were. They
>> were narrower and longer than the DS20. There were also some loose 72G
>> Ultra3 SCSI HDDs.
>>
>> The Suns were a SS1, SS2, two SS5s (one with a Netra top cover), two
>> SS20s (one with its cover removed and MBus card and memory lying near it)
>> and a SS1+ "prototype". I am keeping the SS1+ and a SS5. I have found a
>> home for a couple more of them and will be looking for a home for the rest.
>>
>> The SS20s are the most problematic. As you would expect from a system
>> with its top cover missing, one of the SS20s does not display any
>> diagnostic output or get to the OBP prompt after being powered on. The
>> "good" one displays a "replace motherboard" message while going through its
>> diagnostics.
>>
>> Also, as you might expect, the one called a prototype was the most
>> interesting to me. I am a long-time Sun employee and, while I wasn't around
>> when the SS1+ was developed, I know people who were. It isn't like any
>> prototype that they knew of. Still trying to figure out exactly what it is.
>> The top cover is metal and slides over the chassis (not plastic and pivots
>> into place like a SS1+. There are no external markings on it. It has a Sun
>> SS1+ motherboard, Sun0424 HDDs, and uses SS1/SS1+/SS2 HDD carriers, but has
>> a Sony (not Sun) labeled power supply.
>>
>> As far as the 029 keypunch, it is still there. There was some confusion
>> and the people who were supposed to come get it didn't. I have described to
>> them where it is and how I would go about removing it.
>>
>> alan
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: Picked up stuff from Pete's

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

I am glad they got rescued.

On the Alpha stuff, I will over the next month, put all the Tru64 and
OpenVMS CD sets, documentation and hardware licenses into on pile.

I would like to find a destination that will / can redistribute the CD's
etc. I don't want to them and the licenses get
put into the hands of one individual and never to be seen again.

Suggestions ?

-pete

On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 4:33 PM, Alan Perry via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> For those follow the rescue of equipment from Pete Lancashire's place
> outside of Portland ...
>
> I went out there last Friday. Pete was unavailable, so a friend of his let
> me and showed me where to avoid stepping.
>
> The amount of stuff there was impressive/amazing/overwhelming. Aside from
> the test equipment and old telecom equipment that was pointed out when I
> was shown around, it was hard to focus on one thing because I would
> immediately see something else interesting that grabbed my attention.
>
> I picked up seven Sun SPARC systems and three Compaq-branded Alpha systems.
>
> The Alpha systems all went to a local (Seattle) person who is talking to
> Bill Gunshannon about possibly getting one out to him. One of the Alphas
> was a DS20 deskside and I never figured out what the other two were. They
> were narrower and longer than the DS20. There were also some loose 72G
> Ultra3 SCSI HDDs.
>
> The Suns were a SS1, SS2, two SS5s (one with a Netra top cover), two SS20s
> (one with its cover removed and MBus card and memory lying near it) and a
> SS1+ "prototype". I am keeping the SS1+ and a SS5. I have found a home for
> a couple more of them and will be looking for a home for the rest.
>
> The SS20s are the most problematic. As you would expect from a system with
> its top cover missing, one of the SS20s does not display any diagnostic
> output or get to the OBP prompt after being powered on. The "good" one
> displays a "replace motherboard" message while going through its
> diagnostics.
>
> Also, as you might expect, the one called a prototype was the most
> interesting to me. I am a long-time Sun employee and, while I wasn't around
> when the SS1+ was developed, I know people who were. It isn't like any
> prototype that they knew of. Still trying to figure out exactly what it is.
> The top cover is metal and slides over the chassis (not plastic and pivots
> into place like a SS1+. There are no external markings on it. It has a Sun
> SS1+ motherboard, Sun0424 HDDs, and uses SS1/SS1+/SS2 HDD carriers, but has
> a Sony (not Sun) labeled power supply.
>
> As far as the 029 keypunch, it is still there. There was some confusion
> and the people who were supposed to come get it didn't. I have described to
> them where it is and how I would go about removing it.
>
> alan
>
>
>

Re: To be scrapped in as little as 2 months

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

If you need to contact the person representing me his cell phone number is 360
348 5922 again he will be at the banks house at 8 a.m. His name is Charles
Osborne

On Mon, Apr 16, 2018, 8:39 AM Alan Perry via cctalk 
wrote:

>
>
> > On Apr 16, 2018, at 8:05 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 04/16/2018 10:54 AM, Alan Perry wrote:
> >> There are a few cross conversations going on here and in separate
> e-mail and maybe some confusion.
> >>
> >> On Friday, I am going to meet Pete to pick up the Suns and do some prep
> for later coming back to get the Alphas and the keypunch. I may also pick
> up Alphas, depending on my judgment on Fri whether I can transport them
> safely.
> >>
> >> There will be a second trip to pick up the keypunch and Alphas not
> picked up in the first trip. It is going to take at least two people to
> move and load the keypunch. I plan on using the first trip to evaluate
> whether two will be enough. Also, Pete says that stuff needs to be moved to
> access the Alphas and the keypunch. I intend to do some of that on the
> first trip.
> >
> > Might be interesting to know what stuff has to be moved.  :-)
>
> Yeah, I was wondering about whether any of the stuff that needs to be
> moved is of interest.
>
> >>
> >> One complication is that the guy helping with the second trip is also
> intended in the Alphas.
>
> I intended to write ‘interested’ here. Thanks, autocorrect!
>
> >
> > No big deal.  If you have a taker for the Alphas out there at least they
> > don't end up
> > in the skip.
>
> We can discuss this offline.
>
> >
> >>
> >> As far as getting one or more Alpha to Wellsboro ... it would be a race
> car team transporting the machine. I would make arrangements at the race in
> Portland this coming weekend, drop the equipment off with them at the next
> race in WA state and the equipment would be at the race after that in
> Wellsboro. But, at this time, I have not yet identified a team that would
> do it. They would want specifics on the Alphas that I don’t yet have.
> >
> > I can't wait to hear where the racetrack is ion Wellsboro cause I sure
> > can't see one
> > on Google Maps.  Ours (Hamlin Speedway) is rather obvious in satellite
> > view.  :-)
>
> We don’t race on tracks. It is called ‘stage rally’, the US version of the
> World Rally Championship. They race against the clock on closed, gravel
> roads. The cars are street-legal and, to get from one timed section to the
> next, they drive on open, public roads, obeying the rules of the road. On
> the timed sections, someone sits in the passenger seat calling out a
> detailed description of the next turns coming up to the driver. When I
> competed, I was one of those guys reading directions.
>
> The Wellsboro rally is called STPR (Susquehannock Trail Performance Rally).
>
> alan
>
> >
> > bill
> >
>
>
>

Re: To be scrapped in as little as 2 months

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

https://photos.app.goo.gl/4u6k7EaXwPjTZaDS2

On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 6:11 AM, Pete Lancashire 
wrote:

> Pictures were sent, they are being picked up Friday.
>
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 6:03 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 04/15/2018 03:30 PM, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On 4/15/18 11:59 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 04/15/2018 02:37 PM, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> On 4/15/18 11:30 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
>>  On 04/15/2018 01:44 PM, Ed Sharpe via cctalk wrote:
>> > wish this  was  closer!  ed#
>> >
>>  Me too.  I could use an Alpha or two for running VMS.
>> >>> Where are you? I am picking up the Alphas so they don't get scrapped.
>> >>> I will be looking for homes for them once I get them here and check
>> >>> out their condition.
>> >> Wrong side of the country.  Scranton, PA.  And if they are as
>> >> sturdy as the Alphas I have worked with in the past the cost
>> >> of shipping one would be very prohibitive.
>> >
>> > Are you willing to drive to Wellsboro, PA for one or two? I am heading
>> > down to PDX because I am a motorsports official. The first weekend of
>> > June, the series will be in Wellsboro. If you are interested, I  can
>> > see if one of the teams is willing to haul one or two Alphas that way.
>> >
>>
>> How big are the Alphas?  I was thinking they were the deskside towers
>> about the size of a PC.  But if they are the ones that are the size of a
>> small refrigerator I may not be able to handle them.
>>
>> bill
>>
>>
>

Re: To be scrapped in as little as 2 months

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

Pictures were sent, they are being picked up Friday.

On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 6:03 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

>
>
> On 04/15/2018 03:30 PM, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 4/15/18 11:59 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
> >>
> >> On 04/15/2018 02:37 PM, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 4/15/18 11:30 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
>  On 04/15/2018 01:44 PM, Ed Sharpe via cctalk wrote:
> > wish this  was  closer!  ed#
> >
>  Me too.  I could use an Alpha or two for running VMS.
> >>> Where are you? I am picking up the Alphas so they don't get scrapped.
> >>> I will be looking for homes for them once I get them here and check
> >>> out their condition.
> >> Wrong side of the country.  Scranton, PA.  And if they are as
> >> sturdy as the Alphas I have worked with in the past the cost
> >> of shipping one would be very prohibitive.
> >
> > Are you willing to drive to Wellsboro, PA for one or two? I am heading
> > down to PDX because I am a motorsports official. The first weekend of
> > June, the series will be in Wellsboro. If you are interested, I  can
> > see if one of the teams is willing to haul one or two Alphas that way.
> >
>
> How big are the Alphas?  I was thinking they were the deskside towers
> about the size of a PC.  But if they are the ones that are the size of a
> small refrigerator I may not be able to handle them.
>
> bill
>
>

Re: To be scrapped in as little as 2 months

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

I need to add

- I can not provide labor, if you can't move it your self or like the 029
you will need to hire someone at your own time and expense. The 029 CAN NOT
be moved by one person.

I may have been a bit low on how much will need to be moved to get the 029
out the front door, lets say 400 to 600 additional LBS of stuff will need
to be moved.

-pete

On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 7:43 PM, Pete Lancashire 
wrote:

> 3 x DEC Alphas, small deskside models
>
> 5 to 6 x Sun pizza boxes one a Sparc 1 prototype
>
> 029 IBM Keypunch
>
> The day I can have a 15 cubic yard scrap metal drop box the stuff will
> start to be tossed in.
>
> All based on when the rains stop and the ground is hard enough
>
> I can't want much longer
>
> For those that have not seen me post this before
>
> The stuff is near (3 - 4 miles outside of) Banks Oregon USA (look it up on
> Google).
>
> I CAN NOT LIFT OVER 10 LBS, PERIOD.
>
> -pete
>

Re: To be scrapped in as little as 2 months

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

Other names via cctalk

Ed Sharpesteve shumaker
*Noel Chiappa*
*John H. Reinhardt*

First of, I am sorry for any additional noise on CCTALK.

I will find out who replied first on each of the group of equipment. To
keep the noise down if you name is above contact me directly then I can
keep CCTALK out of the loop

Once I have that I will let the 'group' know.

Again

I CAN NOT lift anything.

The stuff is 25 miles from where I live.

My partisipatoin will be limited to one thing, pointing out where the stuff
is.

The Suns are easy to get to.

The Alphas will require moving about 300-500 lbs of other junk to make a
path for a hand truck

The 029 IS HEAVY, how much I can't remember but at least 200 more like 300
LBS and it will wil require
moving another 200+ LBS of stuff out of the way.

So we are looking at someone needing to move up to 1/2 TON of junk.

Again all I can do is watch.

The ground where the stuff is can not be driven on, a car will sink in the
mud, The driveway is about 100-200 feet from the door.

So the stuff will have to be carried and or maneuvered on a hand truck to
the driveway.

I will get back by tomorrow.

-pete


On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 7:43 PM, Pete Lancashire 
wrote:

> 3 x DEC Alphas, small deskside models
>
> 5 to 6 x Sun pizza boxes one a Sparc 1 prototype
>
> 029 IBM Keypunch
>
> The day I can have a 15 cubic yard scrap metal drop box the stuff will
> start to be tossed in.
>
> All based on when the rains stop and the ground is hard enough
>
> I can't want much longer
>
> For those that have not seen me post this before
>
> The stuff is near (3 - 4 miles outside of) Banks Oregon USA (look it up on
> Google).
>
> I CAN NOT LIFT OVER 10 LBS, PERIOD.
>
> -pete
>

Re: To be scrapped in as little as 2 months

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

https://photos.app.goo.gl/eYVej7Sg7GSk9Mv72

On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 8:16 AM, Alan Perry via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Do you know the size/models of the Alpha systems? I want to make sure they
> will fit in my car.
>
> alan
>
> > On Apr 14, 2018, at 7:43 PM, Pete Lancashire via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> > 3 x DEC Alphas, small deskside models
> >
> > 5 to 6 x Sun pizza boxes one a Sparc 1 prototype
> >
> > 029 IBM Keypunch
> >
> > The day I can have a 15 cubic yard scrap metal drop box the stuff will
> > start to be tossed in.
> >
> > All based on when the rains stop and the ground is hard enough
> >
> > I can't want much longer
> >
> > For those that have not seen me post this before
> >
> > The stuff is near (3 - 4 miles outside of) Banks Oregon USA (look it up
> on
> > Google).
> >
> > I CAN NOT LIFT OVER 10 LBS, PERIOD.
> >
> > -pete
>
>
>

To be scrapped in as little as 2 months

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

3 x DEC Alphas, small deskside models

5 to 6 x Sun pizza boxes one a Sparc 1 prototype

029 IBM Keypunch

The day I can have a 15 cubic yard scrap metal drop box the stuff will
start to be tossed in.

All based on when the rains stop and the ground is hard enough

I can't want much longer

For those that have not seen me post this before

The stuff is near (3 - 4 miles outside of) Banks Oregon USA (look it up on
Google).

I CAN NOT LIFT OVER 10 LBS, PERIOD.

-pete

Re: Shipping a Flexowriter

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

I have used PakMail before, no complaints
 -pete

On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 10:55 AM, Kyle Owen via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> I ended up going with PakMail and was not disappointed. It arrived safe and
> sound yesterday, and though the cost of shipping was almost as much as the
> unit itself, I felt much better about paying a little more to make sure it
> arrived without damage.
>
> Pictures are here: https://imgur.com/a/xW480
>
> Looking forward to getting it going!
>
> Thanks for the suggestions,
>
> Kyle
>
>

Re: AlphaServers

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

Ran across these

https://photos.app.goo.gl/716Mr3cCL7g4uTs62



On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 3:13 PM, Mark Wickens via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> In the Alpha stable I have a 1000A fully loaded with SSB and an external
> SSB enclosure running VMS 7.3. I also have the desktop 3000/600 which was
> bought for my PhD work with 2GB external DAT and 24 bit graphics. I have
> two rackmount 3000/600s and a 3000/800.
>
> I've been planning on downsizing for a while, I'll keep the desktop
> 3000/600 but will be looking to shift the rest. I had a buyer for the 1000A
> a while back but couldn't get it shipped - he was going to give me £250 for
> it. I am willing to give away the 3000/800 but it can't be shipped. The
> developer of the TB-USB card was earmarked for that one but he is in
> Germany and it's just very difficult to get a machine with that weight
> shipped.
>
> Regards, Mark.
> Windermere, UK.
>
>
> On 19 March 2018 at 16:22, Rob Jarratt via cctalk 
> wrote:
>
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of
> Douglas
> > > Taylor via cctalk
> > > Sent: 19 March 2018 15:39
> > > To: Benjamin Huntsman via cctalk 
> > > Subject: Re: AlphaServers
> > >
> > > Anyone out there do Alphas anymore?
> > >
> >
> > I suppose it depends on what you mean by "do". Do you mean is anyone
> > selling them, using them for real work or just using them as a hobbyist?
> I
> > do the last of these (occasionally).
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >
> > > I have a running;
> > >
> > > 1000A 4/266 with 384MB Ram an full compliment of Storage Works disks
> (has
> > > redundant power supplies and a nice roll around cabinet)
> > >
> > > 3000-300 booting from a SCSI2SD disk, (this is nice since it is kind of
> > light and
> > > can be picked up and moved easily)
> > >
> > > 3000-400 booting from a SCSI2SD disk.  (this thing is quite heavy,
> built
> > with
> > > heavy think metal to support a equally heavy monitor placed on top)
> > >
> > > All running hobbyist OpenVMS 8.4, an one VRC16 DEC color monitor.
> > >
> > > The only part that failed was in the 3000-400, the I/O module (runs
> > network,
> > > serial, SCSI, video, etc) was faulty and kept the power supply from
> > starting up.
> > >
> > > These 64 bit machines are an interesting compliment to the 32 bit
> VAXes I
> > > have, 4000/400, 3100/M76, MVII, 4VLC and the 16 bit PDP-11's.
> > >
> > > Doug
> >
> >
>
>

Re: AlphaServers

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

The are in Oregon about 25 miles west of Portland. I don't remember the
model numbers. It maybe some time before I can get to them,
but they to go, where they are being stored   needs to be emptied of
anything of value by early July. What is left will go to recycle or
metal scrap. I am looking for a few $'s to cover the expenses against my
estate. Like $200 for all three ?

Maybe someone on CC can ID them.

One or two were running when moved to storge.

-pete

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 10:18 AM, Zane Healy <heal...@avanthar.com> wrote:

> What models are these?  You said they’re in Oregon?
>
> Zane
>
>
>
> > On Mar 14, 2018, at 9:14 AM, Pete Lancashire via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> > so  do the 3 macines go in the scrap pile ?
> >
> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/fx4Dw6RrQgVJBXWo1
>
>
>

Re: AlphaServers

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

so  do the 3 macines go in the scrap pile ?

https://photos.app.goo.gl/fx4Dw6RrQgVJBXWo1

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 6:54 AM, Toby Thain via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On 2018-03-14 6:55 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
> > On 14 March 2018 at 11:06, Adrian Graham via cctalk
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm in the process of giving
> >> some of them away though because they take up too much room.
> >
> > The OpenBSD project are, or were, looking for donations of high-end
> > VAXstations. I offered them a VAXstation 4000/60 (Red Hat offered to
> > sponsor shipping from London to Canada) but after some
> > toing-and-froing, Theo DeRaadt turned it down.
>
> OpenBSD can't support VAX-11 any longer, unless somebody implements TLS
> for that architecture (which I believe would need major toolchain work?)
>
> http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article=20160309192510
>
> That would explain why they no longer want VAX-11 hardware.
>
> --Toby
>
> >
> > Unfortunately, I believe RH has now lost my machine. :-(
> >
> > But if anyone is willing to donate a /90 or similar, he might be
> interested.
> >
>
>
>

Re: a bit off topic - looking for someone w/7 track 1/2" analog

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 10:40 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On 03/13/2018 09:39 PM, Pete Lancashire via cctalk wrote:
> > comp for 1 - 7/8 IPS like to get all tracks digitized
> >
> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/IMcgjxugzKMuIvKv2
> >
> > will put on open file server then sell the tape
> >
>
> So, someone with an old Ampex PR-500 deck?   I saw one for sale on eBay
> a few years ago--heh.
>
> Richard Hess in Ontario has a bunch of old instrumentation gear and
> specializes in audio tape restoration.   He certainly could do the job
> for you.
>
> --Chuck
>
>
>
>
>

a bit off topic - looking for someone w/7 track 1/2" analog

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

comp for 1 - 7/8 IPS like to get all tracks digitized

https://photos.app.goo.gl/IMcgjxugzKMuIvKv2

will put on open file server then sell the tape

-pete

Re: AlphaServers

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

If anyone is in or near Portland Oregon and interested, they are available.
There are also at least 2 x 14 drive SCSI arrays, cables, etc.

At one time I was offered a 5 rack fully redundant Alpha setup based on 3
40's or 45's  Two servers were running with one is hot standby, the 3rd was
a cold standby.

The two racks in the middle of around 100 SCSI disks and the hardware to
support having 2 active SCSI masters.

The only time I have seen Tru64 do its magic.

-pete



On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 10:33 AM, Kyle Owen via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> So, B-Cache is a common failure; any idea what specifically is failing
> about it?
>
> I've got a 1000A, but its been years since I've tried booting it. It was
> successfully booting when I last tried it, however. I think I've got Tru64
> installation media somewhere around here, too...
>
> Kyle
>
>

Some fun: who can identify this ?

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

https://photos.app.goo.gl/ww7KPnPVexGJiqyE3

More pictures of the 360/50 front panel

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

https://photos.app.goo.gl/36CxlZQJDssj5uLh1

I will be pulling it out later this week and have more including
the back and the hinged frame

-pete

Re: ISO: Tektronix 4404 peripherals

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

I might have one of the SCSI <-> Floppy boards. They were scrap from when
the 6000 series was canceled. Put you on the list as I clear out

On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 8:38 PM, Josh Dersch via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Hi all --
>
> I'm working on fixing up a Tektronix 4404 workstation (runs
> Smalltalk-80!).  Or rather, I'm trying to collect the needed parts to
> assemble a complete system so that I might fix up said system -- at the
> moment I have only the main CPU unit (but hey, it's a good starting
> point).  I am looking for:
>
> - Keyboard (Tektronix P/N 119-1872-00)
>
> - Mouse (Logitech P7-3F-TX-19-1808-00).  This is likely a standard
> 3-button quadrature mouse but if I can find the exact match, so much the
> better...
>
> - Mass Storage (Tektronix model 4944, possibly others?  This is a SCSI
> device containing a hard drive on a SCSI->MFM bridge and 5.25" floppy drive
> on a custom SCSI->floppy interface.)
>
> If anyone happens to have spares or knows anyone who might, please let me
> know.  Thanks as always!
>
> - Josh
>
>
>
>

Re: ibm panel

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

Well done, tasteful.

I was very lucky with who ever scrapped that 360/50 and took the hinge and
frame along with the panel.

One then can anchor the frame to the studs or something and not have to
worry about how the heck one
is going to hang a 75 lb or whatever panel to the wall.

-pete

On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 5:30 AM, E. Groenenberg via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

>
> So, all this talk about panels made me making an oak frame for an
> IBM panel I had lingering around in the attic for a while.
>
> Still need to make a back panel to close it tough.
>
> http://bit.ly/2HI2cHC
>
> The cables were already cut when I got it.
>
> Ed
> --
> Ik email, dus ik besta.
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Suggestions for 16 mm movies to digital conversion

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

I forgot, once done the physical media will be donated

-pete

On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 11:09 AM, Pete Lancashire 
wrote:

> I have a small, 5-20 stack of 16 mm's of movies dealing with computers
>
> The one in front of me is
>
> "Once Upon a Punched Card"
>
> I am looking for a place in the USA with a reasonable price to have them
> digitized and I will place them on both my Google drive and a Youtube
>
> So far I have only been able to find places I can not afford.
>
> Suggestions, Ideas, etc ?
>
> -pete
>
>
>

Suggestions for 16 mm movies to digital conversion

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

I have a small, 5-20 stack of 16 mm's of movies dealing with computers

The one in front of me is

"Once Upon a Punched Card"

I am looking for a place in the USA with a reasonable price to have them
digitized and I will place them on both my Google drive and a Youtube

So far I have only been able to find places I can not afford.

Suggestions, Ideas, etc ?

-pete

Re: damn ....

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

I can be more blunt, it was a total business failure mostly too late by
then key to tape or direct entry had started to come into the market and
could you imagine going to a place like an insurance company that had whole
floors full of card cabinets that only fit only 80 col cords and sell
them a different format ?

At least the round chad did not stick you your clothing or the carpets.

-pete

On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 11:33 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On 02/22/2018 10:39 PM, Pete Lancashire via cctalk wrote:
> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/EfDc3rRMfyfTNdgw2
> >
> >>From my days at Burroughs writing hardware test programs
>
> The IBM 96 column card always seemed to me like a throwback to the
> Univac 90-column card--multiple rows and round holes--and 6 columns per
> row (8 bit EBCDIC used a rather bizarre encoding scheme that I never
> bothered to wrap my mind around).
>
> --Chuck
>
>

Re: WTB Intel 7110 Bubble Memory Subsystem or Chipset

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

This is all bringing back when Intel tried to see BM's to me at Tektronix.
Got to go see them being made. Something just told me  "dead end".

-pete

On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 5:09 PM, dwight via cctalk 
wrote:

> Looking things up, I don't think the Nicolet one with the scope was the
> Intel one.
>
> Dwight
>
>
> 
> From: cctalk  on behalf of allison via
> cctalk 
> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 3:14:45 PM
> To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: WTB Intel 7110 Bubble Memory Subsystem or Chipset
>
> On 02/22/2018 03:08 PM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote:
> > I'm about to acquire a couple of 1980s-vintage military surplus
> AN/UGC-137A terminals (i.e., glass TTYs with some local message preparation
> and storage capabilities) which have a bubble memory subsystem. They use
> plug-in cartridges containing 256 kbytes of storage in the form of two
> Intel 7110 1 Mbit bubble memory chips and their 7242 formatter/sense
> amplifiers.
> >
> > One of the cartridges contains the one and only copy of the terminals'
> firmware, which I believe they need to load up at each reboot. Naturally,
> extracting the contents of that irreplaceable cartridge for archival, and
> potential future emulation, is going to be a very high priority for me. I
> have a few different approaches in mind for accomplishing that. One
> approach would be to remove the two memory devices from the critical
> cartridge in order to dump their contents in an independent bubble memory
> subsystem.
> >
> > With that in mind, I'd like to get my hands on a working Intel 7110
> bubble memory subsystem, or the parts to build one myself (i.e., a complete
> 7110/7220/7230/7242/7250/7254 chipset that I could make a board around).
> What you plan is risky.  You first need to know how they organize the
> data in each of the loops.
> The problem is did that interleave the two bubble or are they addressed
> seperately.  Both possibilities
> were the case.  Each BM required its own CPG, FSA and drivers but could
> share the 7220 BMC.
>
> > Might anybody here have what I need available for sale or trade? I might
> be able to use some arbitrary old computer or other device that has a
> subsystem based around the Intel 7110, or a development kit such as the
> Intel BPK-72, or a chipset to make my own board.
> I got two of them back in the 80s, they are now part of a CP/M Z80
> system I built back then.
> Not much storage and sorta slow and power hungry.
>
> > If I can't acquire or make the hardware to dump the memory chips outside
> of their native system, then I think my next option would be to passively
> snoop the host bus interface of the Intel 7220 controller I expect to find
> inside the terminals as they perform their initial firmware load, so that I
> can reconstruct the cartridge contents from the trace data.
> The best and lowest risk point is to snoop is at the data bus
> interface.  Logic analyzer or something fast enough to
> grab the data.  The 7220 chip set gave a nice bus interface with a
> fairly simple command set.  Its also the side of
> the device thats well documented.
>
> I may have a few of the basic bubble memory units 7110 as they were
> socketed.  No extra CPD, FSA, Driver devices,
>  or BMC 7220.
>
>
> Allison
>
> > The terminals were made by the Librascope division of Singer, and
> brochures can be found here:
> >
> > http://www.librascopememories.com/Librascope_Memories/
> Product_Literature_files/Communications%20Terminal.pdf
> >
> > http://www.librascopememories.com/Librascope_Memories/
> Product_Literature_files/SST.pdf
> >
> > http://www.librascopememories.com/Librascope_Memories/
> Product_Literature_files/Bubble%20Memory%20Cartridge.pdf
> >
> > I already have the critical cartridge in hand, and I posted some
> pictures of it on Twitter:
> >
> > https://twitter.com/nf6x/status/964578291767173120
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

Re: Will be up for sale in this calendar year 360 Front Panel

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

Jon,

Thank your for the type

Upside down since I'm no longer suppose to be lifting stuff and it is more
stable that way :-)



On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 6:24 PM, Jon Elson <el...@pico-systems.com> wrote:

> On 02/22/2018 11:56 AM, Pete Lancashire via cctalk wrote:
>
>> I thought I would post a heads for
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/36CxlZQJDssj5uLh1
>>
>>
>> That is specifically a 360/50 front panel (upside down in the picture).
>
> Jon
>
>

Re: WTB Intel 7110 Bubble Memory Subsystem or Chipset

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

Doing a paper napkin design, should be pretty easy to build a bubble
emulator in the same size

On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 12:08 PM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> I'm about to acquire a couple of 1980s-vintage military surplus
> AN/UGC-137A terminals (i.e., glass TTYs with some local message preparation
> and storage capabilities) which have a bubble memory subsystem. They use
> plug-in cartridges containing 256 kbytes of storage in the form of two
> Intel 7110 1 Mbit bubble memory chips and their 7242 formatter/sense
> amplifiers.
>
> One of the cartridges contains the one and only copy of the terminals'
> firmware, which I believe they need to load up at each reboot. Naturally,
> extracting the contents of that irreplaceable cartridge for archival, and
> potential future emulation, is going to be a very high priority for me. I
> have a few different approaches in mind for accomplishing that. One
> approach would be to remove the two memory devices from the critical
> cartridge in order to dump their contents in an independent bubble memory
> subsystem.
>
> With that in mind, I'd like to get my hands on a working Intel 7110 bubble
> memory subsystem, or the parts to build one myself (i.e., a complete
> 7110/7220/7230/7242/7250/7254 chipset that I could make a board around).
>
> Might anybody here have what I need available for sale or trade? I might
> be able to use some arbitrary old computer or other device that has a
> subsystem based around the Intel 7110, or a development kit such as the
> Intel BPK-72, or a chipset to make my own board.
>
> If I can't acquire or make the hardware to dump the memory chips outside
> of their native system, then I think my next option would be to passively
> snoop the host bus interface of the Intel 7220 controller I expect to find
> inside the terminals as they perform their initial firmware load, so that I
> can reconstruct the cartridge contents from the trace data.
>
> The terminals were made by the Librascope division of Singer, and
> brochures can be found here:
>
> http://www.librascopememories.com/Librascope_Memories/
> Product_Literature_files/Communications%20Terminal.pdf
>
> http://www.librascopememories.com/Librascope_Memories/
> Product_Literature_files/SST.pdf
>
> http://www.librascopememories.com/Librascope_Memories/
> Product_Literature_files/Bubble%20Memory%20Cartridge.pdf
>
> I already have the critical cartridge in hand, and I posted some pictures
> of it on Twitter:
>
> https://twitter.com/nf6x/status/964578291767173120
>
>
>
>
> --
> Mark J. Blair, NF6X 
> http://www.nf6x.net/
>
>
>

Will be up for sale in this calendar year 360 Front Panel

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

I thought I would post a heads for

https://photos.app.goo.gl/36CxlZQJDssj5uLh1

I have the IBM 360 aluminum plate that goes on top, it is scratched. More
detailed and better pictures as I dig deeper.

For shipping a I will have professional box built by a friend who's hobby
is building
and restoring furniture.

Price to be determined and will go into my estate.

If interested please email me directly

pete at petelancashire dot com

Regards

-pete

Re: Large HP plotter on the curb in Arlington, MA

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

The pen plotters came from Tektronix and the inkjets either free or via
Craigslist

-pete

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 7:14 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On 02/14/2018 06:47 PM, Pete Lancashire via cctalk wrote:
> > I  will be getting the model numbers this weekend and again free in
> > Portland Oregon, if not found a home in a few weeks will be in a local
> > metal scrap yard.
>
> Pete, wouldn't these things be most common in college towns with schools
> of architecture?
>
> I'll swear that I've seen a couple sitting at NextStep recycling waiting
> for an adoper down here in Eugene.
>
> --Chuck
>
>
>

Re: Large HP plotter on the curb in Arlington, MA

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

I  will be getting the model numbers this weekend and again free in
Portland Oregon, if not found a home in a few weeks will be in a local
metal scrap yard.



On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 10:07 AM, Tomasz Rola via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 02:07:29PM -0800, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
> [...]
> >
> > No clue what the ink availability is these days.  The ink carts
> > aren’t cheap, and if it has issues with the print head, someone
> > might have been running old ink through it.
> [...]
>
> If it is similar (somewhat) to old ink HP printer, then perhaps it
> could be renewed by bathing in isopropyl alcohol. I give this
> treatment to 840c printer head (I use black ink only) because every
> time I want to print something (once per month or two) the head is dry
> (and the ink is not original). If I have no alcohol at hand or am too
> lazy to walk few meters, I wash it with LCD cleaner in spray. Perhaps
> I am killing it in the process, but the cost of repairing eventual
> damage is low and this is interesting experiment. Stand the cartridge
> upside down on paper cloth, spray the head with a cleaner, watch it
> sink into the head (or maybe evaporate), repeat. I can usually print
> few pages after about an hour of that.
>
> No guarantees - if you do this to your hardware, you are responsible
> for the damages.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Tomasz Rola
>
> --
> ** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature.  **
> ** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home**
> ** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened...  **
> ** **
> ** Tomasz Rola  mailto:tomasz_r...@bigfoot.com **
>
>

Re: Large HP plotter on the curb in Arlington, MA

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

If your in or near Portland Oregon I have a couple of the pen plotters and
the early ink-jet monsters

Price $1 each, you load and get out of the basement. Then parts units about
at 50 mile round trip to/from the country.

-pete

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:59 PM, Phil Budne via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Spotted next to driveway of 7 Central St, Arlington MA
>
> Model C6075A.
> Attached sign says "needs new print head"
>
> https://h10057.www1.hp.com/ecomcat/hpcatalog/specs/
> provisioner/05/C6075A.htm
> is copyright 2006, so perhaps not "classic"
> and says:
> "HP Designjet 1055cm Printer"
> (tho 1055mm seems more likely to me)
>
> Tomorrow (13th) is trash day, current forecast is 0% chance of
> precipitation today and tomorrow.  You'll need a van or a pickup
> truck, it's larger than I could drag home, and I've no place to put
> it.
>
>
>

Re: Looking for a home

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

sorry i ment sparc 1, it was "loaned" to me by Sun, I had the first Suns in
the Portland Area, was totally different back then,
has a problem with VI and Bill Joy took the ticket.

I started with 3's

-pete

On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 4:58 PM, Richard Loken <rllo...@telus.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 4 Feb 2018, Pete Lancashire via cctalk wrote:
>
> One of the Suns is a Sun1 pre-production
>>
>
> Perhaps a pre-production Sparc?  I had a long personal relationship with
> a Sun-1 and nothing there looks remotely like a Sun-1.
>
> --
>   Richard Loken VE6BSV: "...underneath those tuques we wear,
>   Athabasca, Alberta Canada   : our heads are naked!"
>   ** rllo...@telus.net ** :- Arthur Black
>
>

Re: Looking for a home

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

I think that is the pre-production Sparc 1

On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 4:49 PM, ftg...@elbonia.org <ftg...@elbonia.org>
wrote:

> What's the slab on the top?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 5 Feb 2018, at 01:46, Pete Lancashire via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> > Need to start cleaning aut, will have more/better pictures soon
> >
> > The Alphas have full True64 feature certificates, at least one ran
> > before going into storage and has 2 72 GBs and at least 3 new 300 GB
> drives.
> >
> > One of the Suns is a Sun1 pre-production
> >
> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/c8dHa89KUaUGVn9n1
> >
> > The IBM RS6000 has been spoken for
> >
> > -pete
>
>
>

Looking for a home

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

Need to start cleaning aut, will have more/better pictures soon

The Alphas have full True64 feature certificates, at least one ran
before going into storage and has 2 72 GBs and at least 3 new 300 GB drives.

One of the Suns is a Sun1 pre-production

https://photos.app.goo.gl/c8dHa89KUaUGVn9n1

The IBM RS6000 has been spoken for

-pete

Re: Password reset for ~1998 AIX on RS/6000?

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

I like the idea of creating an image before something could screwup what is
on the disk.

dd is your friend

-pete

On Feb 1, 2018 7:28 PM, "Tapley, Mark via cctech" 
wrote:

> On Feb 1, 2018, at 2:32 PM, et...@757.org wrote:
>
> >>  Is there a standard procedure for recovering lost passwords for
> these systems, or for resetting passwords? I do have physical access to the
> machine; it’s possible I can find an AIX install disk but it’s *highly*
> desirable to preserve the contents of the existing hard drive.
> >
> > Image the hard drive off to a raw file using a linux host with a SCSI
> HBA?
> >
> > Once that is done, it might be possible to run a hex editor against the
> hard drive (one that doesn't copy the contents into RAM) and then search
> for the password file. From there you can copy the des hash and use rainbow
> tables / wordfiles to crack it or replace it with a known DES hash?
> >
> > This is how I used to reset my root password on my Lucent Audix UNIX
> host.
> >
> > YMMV, others might have more insight.
>
> Update, I did locate a CD saying “AIX V4.2.1 for 5765-C34” and this URL:
>
> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg3T1000366
>
> which may be what I need. I’ll try this ASAP, hopefully tomorrow, and
> report what happens.
>
> Thanks, and any more ideas welcome!
>

Re: Ethernet cable (Was: Sun3 valuations?)

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

A side story. I was the only 'customer' of a long run of that yellow cable,
when we moved the 260 + 3/50's to a different location, I asked
if they were going to reuse the cable. "Nope, cost to much to get it out of
the roof trusses." I forget but it was a LONG run. Tektronix
back in those days was still an engineering oriented company and all I had
to do was mention it one day in the main cafeteria. Next
thing I know I was followed back to the building with at least 10 engineers
following me. I called and asked one one the facility department
guys that knew about the cable no longer being used, and his reply was
something like if it not there Monday I know nothing about it.

The bottom of the trusses were a good 15 if not more feet up. Five of us
got it down and I came home with the cable on Sunday.
My helpers would not take anything in $'s, the challenge was good enough.

Make a great cable for my ham radio hobby.

Today one would never get away with such 

-pete



On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 12:39 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> > From: Paul Koning
>
> > The nominal OD of RG-8/U is .. within spec for Ethernet cable.
>
> Oh, OK. I was just used to the 10Mb cable we used being slightly larger
> than
> the 3Mb cable we used.
>
> > Also, Ethernet requires a solid inner conductor (for the tap) while
> > RG-8/U may come stranded. (Maybe only in some variants, I'm not
> sure.)
>
> As can be seen in the photos, the 3Mb stuff (at least, the stuff we used)
> was
> also solid. The diameter of the center was a little smaller on the 3Mb
> than on
> the 10Mb; .16mm versus .23mm; not sure if that was just happenstance, or
> what.
>
> Noel
>
>

Re: Sun3 valuations?

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

Value . If it was in/near where I live a 3/50 with a good display would be
 oh $100. Finding a monochrome jug would be the biggest issue.

-pete

On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 5:24 PM, jim stephens via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

>
>
> On 1/22/2018 3:32 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
>
>> On 01/22/2018 04:06 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:
>>
>>> So did we ever get an answer to the original question (the value of a
>>> Sun3)? All I saw was 'you'd have to pay to recycle them'.
>>>
>>
>> I've not seen an answer to that question.  I have seen multiple people
>> raise their virtual hand in interest.  But no discussions of $ other than
>> disposal fees.
>>
> I did mention mine came free.  I also did sell my systems in the late 80s
> for some amount.  I think the answer will be relative to who is collecting
> them and their budget.  At least on this list that didn't seem to be many..
>
> As I said I'd be glad to help you make yours have value if you want my
> system, or the tapes.
>
> Al said he was open to offers for his system, which, by the way sounds
> like the 4/xxx system I had. A historical note on my system, might have
> been true of Al's depending on history too, Hamilton pre merger had a group
> which bought some of these systems, which were in my case in a 6' cabinet
> similar to the Dec H960 in size, and used them as systems for doing pal and
> other utility work.
>
> At out local Hamilton office in Orange County, where mine came from, they
> would let people come in and get accounts and use them for whatever they
> needed, usually by convincing the two local guys that you had something
> that would result in Hamilton selling some product.
>
> As to value, I'd say with the tape, my system should be worth a couple
> hundred.  No disks, but should have SCSI controller.  The tapes being the
> thing adding value.  That is with it in the state of a project machine.
> Add in the monitors and have it restored, I'd say 1000 to 1500 would be a
> reasonable asking price.
>
> Worth noting my 3/260 has a monochrome graphics port, so one would have a
> very large and power hungry Sunos 3 or Sunos 4 graphics station.  I think I
> have the Hitachi monitors that went with the system.
>
> Thanks
> Jim
>
>

Re: Sun3 valuations?

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

Imagen .. yes. The printer we had was a Cannon engine, the same one HP
used. All our work was for 8-1/2"x11" and its 300DPI
was good enough for our use.

LBP8 ?

BTW I had at home a LBP1 ? that came from the R Labs. Quite the beast it
used a toner that was suspended in a liquid.
Can one say VENTILATION required :-) I had it in the garage.

-pete



On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 10:00 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

>
>
> On 1/22/18 9:57 AM, Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote:
>
> > Wasn't the internal controller the early Sun processor board (basically
> a 68000 single-board computer that preceded or was used in the Sun 1), or
> am I conflating things? (We had a Sun 1 quite early as well).
> >
>
> Imagen founded by people from Stanford. The original printer used a
> Stanford SUN board.
> Note, SUN (Stanford University Network) and not "Sun"
>
>
>
>

Re: Sun3 valuations?

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

My interest would be from having the first Sun systems in the Portland
Oregon area. It consisted of a 3/260 w a Fujitsu Eagle, and a 90 ips 9
track that I cant remember the make.
Tied to it where 3 3/50s. Initially diskless then I added a 40 MB drive to
each of them.

Networked into the companies network, tapped into on of the yellow coaxes
up in the ceiling.

I all was for running Interleaf. Oh yea printing was via a Imagin (sp?)
print engine.

Purpose was composing and printing component specifications at Tektronix

-pete



On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 11:37 PM, emanuel stiebler via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On 2018-01-21 23:47, Kevin Bowling via cctalk wrote:
> > I have some sun3/vme systems
> >
> > Several 3/60
> > 3/260
> > sparcstation 4/370
> > SMD disk array for 3/260
> >
> > The 3/260 and 4/370 have some oddball boards for data (cosys) and
> > video acquisition (Aviv).
> >
> > I also have some spare sparcstation 10s and 20s.
> >
> > I haven't seen sun3 stuff for sale much.  Does anyone know approximate
> > valuations for tested systems?
>
> Hello Kevin,
> I would be interested in all the 68000 based systems. If you like to get
> rid of them, I would give them a good home.
>
> All the best,
> emanuel
> (colorado, usa)
>
>

Re: Sun3 valuations?

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

Location ?

-pete

On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 2:47 PM, Kevin Bowling via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> I have some sun3/vme systems
>
> Several 3/60
> 3/260
> sparcstation 4/370
> SMD disk array for 3/260
>
> The 3/260 and 4/370 have some oddball boards for data (cosys) and
> video acquisition (Aviv).
>
> I also have some spare sparcstation 10s and 20s.
>
> I haven't seen sun3 stuff for sale much.  Does anyone know approximate
> valuations for tested systems?
>
> Regards,
> Kevin
>
>

Re: help id a chip

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

Welcome.

I miss my couple years at "Big B", great people to work with. Many of us
though if this bozo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Michael_Blumenthal

had not taken over Burroughs could still have made it.

-pete

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:51 PM, william degnan 
wrote:

> Fantastic, thanks.
> Bill
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 3:46 PM, Pete Lancashire via cctech <
> cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>> Found it !!
>>
>> http://www.picklesnet.com/burroughs/gallery/bpgb80.htm
>>
>> 4th picture top row.
>>
>> Yikes that was long ago
>>
>> -pete
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Pete Lancashire <
>> p...@petelancashire.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > OK it is coming back to me, if I remember correctly these were used in
>> the
>> > B80 which were or were to be a replacement for the L/TC family
>> > there were either 5 or 8 of them that made up the CPU
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:14 PM, Mike Stein via cctech <
>> > cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> The L & TC series (among others?) used a number of those chips; I
>> *might*
>> >> even be able to look up what it did but I doubt that it'd be useful
>> >> information ;-)
>> >>
>> >> m
>> >>
>> >> - Original Message -
>> >> From: "Pete Lancashire via cctech" 
>> >> To: "william degnan" ; "General Discussion:
>> >> On-Topic Posts" 
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 1:19 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: help id a chip
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Burroughs
>> >> >
>> >> > One has to love the 1/8" spacing.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have a box of them from when I worked there. I may even have one of
>> >> the
>> >> > very rare test sockets.
>> >> >
>> >> > The division I was in was considering using the technology. I can't
>> >> > remember what actually used them. Way too long ago.
>> >> > The plant I was in built the B7xx family.
>> >> >
>> >> > I
>> >> >
>> >> > -pete
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:05 AM, william degnan via cctech <
>> >> > cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Can someone tell me what chip this is?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010114.JPG
>> >> >> http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010093.JPG
>> >> >> http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010094.JPG
>> >> >>
>> >> >> (note ..94/94 show the item in a sealed in storage material)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> the underside consists of 4 sets of 12 pins plus the corner 3 pins,
>> as
>> >> >> shown on the top of the chip.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> thanks
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>
>

Re: help id a chip

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

Found it !!

http://www.picklesnet.com/burroughs/gallery/bpgb80.htm

4th picture top row.

Yikes that was long ago

-pete


On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Pete Lancashire 
wrote:

> OK it is coming back to me, if I remember correctly these were used in the
> B80 which were or were to be a replacement for the L/TC family
> there were either 5 or 8 of them that made up the CPU
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:14 PM, Mike Stein via cctech <
> cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>> The L & TC series (among others?) used a number of those chips; I *might*
>> even be able to look up what it did but I doubt that it'd be useful
>> information ;-)
>>
>> m
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Pete Lancashire via cctech" 
>> To: "william degnan" ; "General Discussion:
>> On-Topic Posts" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 1:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: help id a chip
>>
>>
>> > Burroughs
>> >
>> > One has to love the 1/8" spacing.
>> >
>> > I have a box of them from when I worked there. I may even have one of
>> the
>> > very rare test sockets.
>> >
>> > The division I was in was considering using the technology. I can't
>> > remember what actually used them. Way too long ago.
>> > The plant I was in built the B7xx family.
>> >
>> > I
>> >
>> > -pete
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:05 AM, william degnan via cctech <
>> > cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Can someone tell me what chip this is?
>> >>
>> >> http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010114.JPG
>> >> http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010093.JPG
>> >> http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010094.JPG
>> >>
>> >> (note ..94/94 show the item in a sealed in storage material)
>> >>
>> >> the underside consists of 4 sets of 12 pins plus the corner 3 pins, as
>> >> shown on the top of the chip.
>> >>
>> >> thanks
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>

Re: help id a chip

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

OK it is coming back to me, if I remember correctly these were used in the
B80 which were or were to be a replacement for the L/TC family
there were either 5 or 8 of them that made up the CPU



On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:14 PM, Mike Stein via cctech <
cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> The L & TC series (among others?) used a number of those chips; I *might*
> even be able to look up what it did but I doubt that it'd be useful
> information ;-)
>
> m
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Pete Lancashire via cctech" 
> To: "william degnan" ; "General Discussion:
> On-Topic Posts" 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 1:19 PM
> Subject: Re: help id a chip
>
>
> > Burroughs
> >
> > One has to love the 1/8" spacing.
> >
> > I have a box of them from when I worked there. I may even have one of the
> > very rare test sockets.
> >
> > The division I was in was considering using the technology. I can't
> > remember what actually used them. Way too long ago.
> > The plant I was in built the B7xx family.
> >
> > I
> >
> > -pete
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:05 AM, william degnan via cctech <
> > cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Can someone tell me what chip this is?
> >>
> >> http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010114.JPG
> >> http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010093.JPG
> >> http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010094.JPG
> >>
> >> (note ..94/94 show the item in a sealed in storage material)
> >>
> >> the underside consists of 4 sets of 12 pins plus the corner 3 pins, as
> >> shown on the top of the chip.
> >>
> >> thanks
> >>
> >>
>
>

Re: help id a chip

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

Burroughs

One has to love the 1/8" spacing.

I have a box of them from when I worked there. I may even have one of the
very rare test sockets.

The division I was in was considering using the technology. I can't
remember what actually used them. Way too long ago.
The plant I was in built the B7xx family.

I

-pete

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:05 AM, william degnan via cctech <
cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Can someone tell me what chip this is?
>
> http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010114.JPG
> http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010093.JPG
> http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010094.JPG
>
> (note ..94/94 show the item in a sealed in storage material)
>
> the underside consists of 4 sets of 12 pins plus the corner 3 pins, as
> shown on the top of the chip.
>
> thanks
>
>

Re: Long Shot - Looking for boards from a Western Electric 101-A modem

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

Make that a 28 (Baudot) not a 35 

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 10:02 AM, Pete Lancashire 
wrote:

> Think 101-C's are rare ?
>
> This weekend a Teletype model 35 came home with me and the attached
> Western Electric 101-A modem is missing its boards.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/rZNAt20Vh9CXAflA3
>
> -pete
>

Long Shot - Looking for boards from a Western Electric 101-A modem

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

Think 101-C's are rare ?

This weekend a Teletype model 35 came home with me and the attached
Western Electric 101-A modem is missing its boards.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/rZNAt20Vh9CXAflA3

-pete

Re: Any interest Risc 6000/250

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

update .. will not be able to email till tomorrow ..

-pete

On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 6:15 PM, Pete Lancashire <p...@petelancashire.com>
wrote:

> Thanks everyone. I've got a few interested people. I will email the first
> few to replay and the first person who agrees to take it gets it.
>
> I maybe a couple weeks before I can go get it and see what shape it is in.
>
> I't came from a place where one of my job titles was system admin for
> engineering and worked up to the day the place was shutdown.
>
> -pete
>
> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 5:55 PM, jim stephens via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 1/10/2018 5:37 PM, Stefan Skoglund via cctalk wrote:
>>
>>> ons 2018-01-10 klockan 11:30 -0800 skrev Pete Lancashire via cctalk:
>>>
>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/qqEF53fVbpNhYoTX2
>>>>
>>>> In storage, if any interest will find out what's in it and the
>>>> condition.
>>>>
>>>> Location Portland Oregon
>>>>
>>>> Price cheap/trade
>>>>
>>>> -pete
>>>>
>>> Is that related to IBM Xstation of the same era (i do have one of
>>> those) ?
>>>
>> Same here.  I'd be interested in more info.
>> thanks
>> Jim
>>
>>
>

Re: Any interest Risc 6000/250

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

Thanks everyone. I've got a few interested people. I will email the first
few to replay and the first person who agrees to take it gets it.

I maybe a couple weeks before I can go get it and see what shape it is in.

I't came from a place where one of my job titles was system admin for
engineering and worked up to the day the place was shutdown.

-pete

On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 5:55 PM, jim stephens via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

>
>
> On 1/10/2018 5:37 PM, Stefan Skoglund via cctalk wrote:
>
>> ons 2018-01-10 klockan 11:30 -0800 skrev Pete Lancashire via cctalk:
>>
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/qqEF53fVbpNhYoTX2
>>>
>>> In storage, if any interest will find out what's in it and the
>>> condition.
>>>
>>> Location Portland Oregon
>>>
>>> Price cheap/trade
>>>
>>> -pete
>>>
>> Is that related to IBM Xstation of the same era (i do have one of
>> those) ?
>>
> Same here.  I'd be interested in more info.
> thanks
> Jim
>
>

Any interest Risc 6000/250

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

https://photos.app.goo.gl/qqEF53fVbpNhYoTX2

In storage, if any interest will find out what's in it and the condition.

Location Portland Oregon

Price cheap/trade

-pete

Re: To the 2901 bit slicers out there

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

Wirewrapped the design in the 2900 family guide sometime in the 70s it even
worked. No idea what became of it



On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:53 AM, ben via cctalk 
wrote:

> On 12/27/2017 9:35 PM, Randy Dawson via cctalk wrote:
>
>> Since I know there's tons of PDP/11 geniuses here, and other gurus with a
>> NOVA 4, and a Tektronix 4052 guy (I have the 4051):
>>
>>
> Well I am not one of them. 2901's seem only on epay now, so lack of parts
> have kept me from designing with them. A plan to work on a quick
> and dirty core memory like 20 bit computer from about 1975 ish.
> Rather than microcode I plan to use random logic with 22v10's replacing
> 82s100's that would be used at the time. Cycle time is about 1.25 us
> with a simple front panel.
>
> Ben.
>
>

Re: FS: New-Old Stock S-100 Kits: Cromemco Dazzler & ZPU, IMSAI FIF-XA, PT VDM-1 & more!

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

Just think what someone paid for them in 2017 dollars

-pete

On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 8:06 PM, Sellam Ismail via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Hello again, Folks!
>
> I came across a pretty amazing find in my stuff that I didn't even know I
> had and have no recollection from where I got them. It's a box of unbuilt
> S-100 board kits. Some of the kits are complete (board, parts,
> documentation), others might be missing the documentation or components.
> And then I have a bunch of bare boards, including a fair number of
> prototyping boards.
>
> I created an unboxing video, which can be watched here:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gGgX3WPK34
>
> Complete information including links to photos and pricing can be found
> here on my new dedicated S-100 sales thread on the VCFed forums:
>
> http://www.vcfed.org/forum/showthread.php?61192-Sellam-s-
> S-100-Hardware-Software-and-Peripherals-Sales-Thread
>
> Scroll down to the third post for the newly posted S-100 kits.
>
> Please inquire directly to me via e-mail for fastest results.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Sellam
>
>

Re: Picked up beige Mac G3

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

Check the date code on the 'new' battery, there are quite a few sellers
that will sell you a battery 10 years old. Fry's is a perfect example.

-pete

On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 5:04 PM, devin davison via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Battery does not appear to ahve leaked but is planned to be replaced.
> I was unaware of having to press a key to boot to cd. Ill give it a
> go.
> Thanks for the quick response.
>
> --Devin
>
> On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
>  wrote:
> > On 12/11/2017 03:35 PM, Adrian Graham via cctalk wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Going from memory you need to press ‘C’ to boot from CD and you might
> also need to replace the PRAM battery.
> >>
> >
> > I'll second the bit about the PRAM battery.   I've got one of these
> > beige G3 boxes and can affirm that a failing PRAM battery can create all
> > sorts of strange havoc, including not powering on at all.
> >
> > Note that said battery is 3.6V, so a CR2032 won't do it.
> >
> > --Chuck
>
>

Re: Ebay listings from potomacstore

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

I would photocopy them within a few days of them. The paper was still
available into the late 80's but the Hunt brothers with the Silver scam
pretty much killed it. If you kept the printouts
in a binder/drawer they would last quite a long time. I think I still have
some. The 2nd generation Tek printers did a pretty good job of keeping
clean, but the first one did need quite regular cleaning.

I somewhat remember the small but I guess being in my 20's it didn't bother
me that much :-) Where out HCU was, there was a lot of ventilation so it
never got that bad.

-pete

On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 7:32 PM, Jon Elson via cctalk 
wrote:

> On 12/02/2017 08:08 PM, Randy Dawson via cctalk wrote:
>
>> I considered the Tektronix 4051 hardcopy unit, but my search turned up
>> zilch for the paper (3M Dry Silver type)
>>
>>
>> Price is right, the printer looks great, but no source for the paper that
>> I can find.
>>
>>
>>
>> Oh, man!  That stuff hasn't been made since about 1974 or so, and was
> absolutely HORRIBLE stuff then.
> The thermal developer emitted nasty smells and filled the whole unit with
> white crystals.  The paper turned brown after a few weeks exposure to room
> lights.  So, good for short-term copies only.
>
> Jon
>
>

Re: Ebay listings from potomacstore

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

I have a partial roll but it been outside inside an old hard copy unit for
about 5 years. I need reason you don't see them is they really do have
quite a bit if silver in them.  Even in 1976 my employer at the time didn't
care and was doing pretty well of the scrap.

On Dec 2, 2017 6:08 PM, "Randy Dawson via cctalk" 
wrote:

I considered the Tektronix 4051 hardcopy unit, but my search turned up
zilch for the paper (3M Dry Silver type)


Price is right, the printer looks great, but no source for the paper that I
can find.


randy



From: cctalk  on behalf of systems_glitch
via cctalk 
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 7:36 AM
To: Mattis Lind; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Ebay listings from potomacstore

I know a few of us have bought from them before, my experiences have been
positive. I think the last thing I bought was a Teletype Model 33 ASR that
fell on its face, seller made a pretty good deal as it was local pick-up
and essentially it was a parts bucket at that point.

Thanks,
Jonathan

On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 7:28 AM, Mattis Lind via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> There is a seller "potomacestore" that lists a number of items in various
> condition.
>
> A HP9866A. very nice if you have the HP9830A but no printer!
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/401341724680
[http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/401341724680-0-1/s-l1000.jpg]<
https://www.ebay.com/itm/401341724680>

VINTAGE HP 9866A Uppercase 5x7 Dot Matrix Printer for HP 9830A Calculator |
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www.ebay.com
Designed For use with HP 9830A Calculator. Uppercase 5x7 dot cell matrix.
Print speed of 250 lines per minute. Evaluated and Non-Functioning,
R2/Ready for Repair: The equipment must be evaluated prior to sale to
ensure that the resale value will exceed the cost of repairs, and that the
equipment is capable of being repaired. | eBay!


>
> A weird Tektronix 8 inch drive thing. The drive resembles the Memorex 651
> drives, but could something else. But what is it? The photos are not very
> good.
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/192119338523
[http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/192119338523-0-1/s-l1000.jpg]<
https://www.ebay.com/itm/192119338523>

Vintage Tektronix Computer Dual 8 Inch Floppy Drive | eBay<
https://www.ebay.com/itm/192119338523>
www.ebay.com
Did not have test media or interface to conduct further tests. Key
functions tested Potomac eCycle is certified to the R2/RIOS standard which
was created specifically for the Electronics Recyling industry to promote
Environmental, Health and Safety. | eBay!


>
>
> A decent looking Tektronix 4112 terminal:
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/401325451012
[http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/401325451012-0-1/s-l1000.jpg]<
https://www.ebay.com/itm/401325451012>

VINTAGE Tektronix 4112A 15 In. Computer Display Terminal w/RS-232C
Interface | eBay
www.ebay.com
RS-232C Interface. Evaluated and Non-Functioning, R2/Ready for Repair: The
equipment must be evaluated prior to sale to ensure that the resale value
will exceed the cost of repairs, and that the equipment is capable of being
repaired. | eBay!


>
>
> And some other HP, tektronix stuff.
>

Re: Ebay listings from potomacstore

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

I bought my Teletype 37 from them. It was shown as in pretty bad shape and
AS-IS. When I showed them a few pictures of the insides
where parts had been stripped, just to say maybe a few more pictures would
have been helpful. They send me a partial refund. I didn't
even ask for it.

My biggest complaint, IM ON THE LEFT COAST. Said loudly in sadness :-)

BTW The 'weird' Tek stuff is from their 80's microprocessor development
system (MDS) division. It was a PDP 11/23 based setup.

-pete

On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 7:36 AM, systems_glitch via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> I know a few of us have bought from them before, my experiences have been
> positive. I think the last thing I bought was a Teletype Model 33 ASR that
> fell on its face, seller made a pretty good deal as it was local pick-up
> and essentially it was a parts bucket at that point.
>
> Thanks,
> Jonathan
>
> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 7:28 AM, Mattis Lind via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> > There is a seller "potomacestore" that lists a number of items in various
> > condition.
> >
> > A HP9866A. very nice if you have the HP9830A but no printer!
> >
> > https://www.ebay.com/itm/401341724680
> >
> > A weird Tektronix 8 inch drive thing. The drive resembles the Memorex 651
> > drives, but could something else. But what is it? The photos are not very
> > good.
> >
> > https://www.ebay.com/itm/192119338523
> >
> >
> > A decent looking Tektronix 4112 terminal:
> >
> > https://www.ebay.com/itm/401325451012
> >
> >
> > And some other HP, tektronix stuff.
> >
>
>

Re: Xerox 820

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

Wow that brings back some memories. There was about 10 of us who got
together and I can't remember how or who got 10 of them. I think mine is
still in storage somewhere.



On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:54 PM, allison via cctech 
wrote:

> On 11/21/2017 10:51 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctech wrote:
> > Any interest in a Xerox 820 board that never had it's construction
> completed?
> >
> > It's amazing the stuff I find digging through my boxes of junk.
> >
> > bill
> Bill,
>
> I'm likely one of the few around that can populate it with period parts.
> Very tempting to add yet another project to my list.
>
> Allison
>
>

Re: Details about IBM's early 'scientific' computers

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

What are you looking for ?

Have you checked bitsavers

http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/7090/

and the subdirectory

http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/7090/ce/

for the 7094 there is even more detail

http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/7094/ce/

-pete



On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> So, I was trying to find info about the early IBM 709/7090/7094 computers,
> but
> when I went to what is supposedly the authoritative work on these computers
> (among others):
>
>   Charles J. Bashe, Lyle R. Johnson, John H. Palmer, Emerson W. Pugh,
> "IBM's Early Computers", MIT Press, Cambridge, 1986
>
> I discovered there was very little technical detail about these machines
> there.
>
> Is there any other printed thing (yes, I know a few Web pages have some
> content) that anyone knows of that covers them in more detail? (I have a
> 709/7090/7094 programming thing coming, but that won't cover the internal
> engineering.)
>
> Yes, I know, I could look at the engineering manuals, but I was hoping for
> something in between them and Bashe et al.
>
>   Noel
>
>

Re: Look to get a copy of a Multi-Tech FM300 Modem manual

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

That would be great. Next year as one of my teleprinter demonstrations I
want to have a
Teletype 33 or 35 and the FM300 and a Bell System 500 rotary dial desk
phone.

-pete



On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 8:20 PM, Chris Elmquist <chr...@pobox.com> wrote:

> Give me a day or two and I think I can help you out.  I used to work at
> Multi-Tech when the FM300 was still a product.  I have several along with
> original schematics, which are "blue prints"...
>
> I have almost as many stories about Multi-Tech as I do ETA ;-)
>
> Chris
>
> On October 29, 2017 1:40:03 PM CDT, Pete Lancashire via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >I've acquired a Multi-Tech FM300 acoustic modem and even though I could
> >figure out the pin-outs
> >and switch settings, it would be great if I could get a copy of the
> >original manual.
> >
> >Goal is to add it to a Teletype 33 or 35 and a Bell System 500 desk
> >set.
> >
> >-pete
>
> --
> Chris Elmquist
>
>

Look to get a copy of a Multi-Tech FM300 Modem manual

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

I've acquired a Multi-Tech FM300 acoustic modem and even though I could
figure out the pin-outs
and switch settings, it would be great if I could get a copy of the
original manual.

Goal is to add it to a Teletype 33 or 35 and a Bell System 500 desk set.

-pete

Re: More tape drives - what is this one?

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

What we use to call "Instrumentation" recorders. I've changed many a 14
inch reals with 1" tape, that at time was recording at 120 ips. Thats 10
feet / 3 meters/second. A LOT spinning mass :-) You should see what happens
when one comes off an unlocked hub at that speed.

The ones in the Ebay listing were what we called portable. Portable only
because they had handles and did not take 3 feet of rack space like the
Ampex and the 3 or 4 other makers.

Not really the 'good' days, but a lot of fun.

-pete Yes .. no longer gray hair, but silver hair



On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On 10/13/2017 04:00 PM, Anders Nelson via cctalk wrote:
> > Found on eBay:
> >
> > https://www.ebay.com/i/172896286711
> >
> > Something out of the '50s? Just curious.
>
> Multichannel audio recorder, I think:
>
> https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/budapesti_multi_channel_tape_shr_21.html
>
> --Chuck
>
>
>

Any CC'ers moving from Mass to Oregon ?

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

Always seem to find the big stuff on the 'other' coast.

-pete

Re: Tek 4051 semi-repaired

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

If the CRT floods one can say the CRT is good with one major thing left,
phosphor burns. In a DVST (Direct View Storage Tube) the most common effect
is the burn area will not store with the same potential as the rest of the
tube, or if burned enough will not store at all. There are other things
that can go wrong but so far you know the flood guns are  good, do you see
the man CRT gun assemblies filament light up (can't remember if can been
seen with the shield on) ?

Good Luck, while at Tek I kept thinking of building one but never did.

-pete

On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Brad H via cctalk 
wrote:

> Also the computer itself *was* semi-working.. with the monitor board
> disconnected, voltages were good and I could blindly type in a simple
> endless loop program and get the ‘BUSY’ light to light up when I ran it.
>
>
>
> I don’t have the computer just yet and my tech guy didn’t have time to try
> entering something like that.  So I’ll have to confirm.  He seems to think
> three indicator lights on the right come up on power on now and then go
> out.  The power light at the bottom appears to be dead.
>
>
>
> From: Ian Finder [mailto:ian.fin...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2017 9:39 AM
> To: Brad H ; General Discussion:
> On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts 
> Subject: Re: Tek 4051 semi-repaired
>
>
>
> Does it warm up or flood?
>
>
>
> "When I got my 4051, on power up there
>
> would be no voltage to the motherboard and nothing came up on the screen.
> That has been fixed, however we still do not have any kind of prompt or
> anything appearing."
>
>
> Care to share with the class what you've done so far?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Brad H via cctalk   > wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
>
>
> My go-to guy for CRT stuff has informed me that he has the CRT on my 4051
> working and that the tube is good.  When I got my 4051, on power up there
> would be no voltage to the motherboard and nothing came up on the screen.
> That has been fixed, however we still do not have any kind of prompt or
> anything appearing.
>
>
>
> Wondering if anyone has any ideas on where to go from here?   I'm picking
> up
> the machine this week and will do some more testing.. hopefully the board
> didn't take any damage while he was working on the CRT.
>
>
>
> Brad
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
>Ian Finder
>(206) 395-MIPS
>ian.fin...@gmail.com 
>
>
>
>
>   utm_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient>
>
> Virus-free.   utm_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient>
> www.avg.com
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Importing a PDP-8 from Canada

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

I've been listening in :-) I'm In Oregon trying to come up with a long shot
to get some Teletype equipment that is near Edmonton Alberta. It's not
worth that much but would more than help with gas etc. Other then about 50
years go bringing some of my grandparents furniture back to my parents when
we lived in Philly. The only thing we came up with was sworn declarations,
but the clincher was I had take some old family photos that had the
furniture in it.



On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 6:20 AM, Michael Thompson via cctech <
cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Thanks to everyone who offered advice and recommendations about
> re-importing equipment to the US from Canada.
> What follows is our experience and does not represent advice or
> recommendations from the RICM.
>
> We sent an email to DHS asking about the re-importing procedure and what
> paperwork we would need, but never received a reply.
>
> I called the customs office in Highgate Springs, VT where we planned to
> re-enter the US. The customs officer said that they were most concerned
> about proof of ownership. I asked about not paying any duty because
> everything we brought back was of US manufacture. The officer said that
> even though it was made in the US if it was purchased in Canada you still
> might owe duty when bringing it back to the US.
>
> The RICM has an accession form that all donors sign that deeds the
> equipment to the RICM. We added a list of the donated equipment, including
> serial numbers, to the accession document. Just in case, we made a
> pro-forma (commercial) invoice listing the equipment and an estimated
> value. We also found a Form 3311, DECLARATION FOR FREE ENTRY OF RETURNED
> AMERICAN PRODUCTS. We filled that out even though it is most likely only
> used for getting items back into the US that were sent out for repair.
>
> The customs officer asked if we purchased the equipment, and if it was for
> or personal use. Since the equipment was donated we didn't buy it, and
> since it was going into the museum's collection it was not for our personal
> use. He seemed satisfied and within a few minutes we were on our way home.
>
> The most interesting item that we brought back was an ECRM model 5902
> document scanner from 1977 that is powered by a PDP-8/m. It looks like we
> have all of the documentation for it, including the software on paper tape.
> We will post pictures of it on our WWW page in a day or so.
>
> Thanks again for everyone's help with this project.
>
>
> > On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 8:15 PM, Michael Thompson <
> > michael.99.thomp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > The RICM has an opportunity to get a PDP-8/M (built in Maynard, MA)
> that
> > is in Canada. I remember that there was a discussion on the procedure
> here,
> > but I can't find it with Google.
> > >
> > > Can you either point me to the discussion, or tell me what the
> procedure
> > is?
> >
> > --
> > Michael Thompson
> >
>
> --
> Michael Thompson
>
>

LA-180 ? On Craigslist near Duluth MI

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

https://eauclaire.craigslist.org/atq/d/aa-occasional-sales/6248628617.html

Picture #8 in rear right corner

No association with the seller just passing the info on

Re: Wanted: small composite CRT monitor

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

I also acquired a monitor that way. I looked up places that did video work,
tape duplication, editing etc.

They either have sent to e-waste all their NTSC gear or have not got around
to doing it. If not, help them
out :-). I got rack unit with 2 side by side Sony monitors for free. I gave
the guy I was talking to $20 to buy
the guy who took it out of the rack for me and for himself to get a beer.

Also try your local TV stations. And if any independent news teams with a
van.

-pete



On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 5:05 PM, Ed via cctalk 
wrote:

> yes stacked back in the back area   behid  other  tonnage  there are  lots
> of these square  cabinet  monitors  both  color  and B/Wall  various
> sized
> many  names   sony Panasonic jvc  and  more. Wish  I had  these  when I had
>  my apple... they were expensive,  especially  the  color cube  broadcast
> monitors.
>
> I  could never bring myself  to ever toss any of them.
>
> the  stuff I  used  with the  apple  2   I  had  were old b/w  conrac
> monitors  with tubes in  them!
>
> I had other friends that had  converted TV's   so the TV  would accept
> straight composite  video thus  giving  a  sharper  image than stuff  run
> though modulators.
>
> I need  to  match   some of these up  with   some early video switchers
> for remote trucks  for a  display  and  a  few to save  for computers but
> at
> some point   we  will probably cut  20 or 30 them loose or  so.  ed#
>
>
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 8/22/2017 4:23:13 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
> cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
>
> I  suggest that you keep your eyes open for a small CRT-based CCTV monitor.
>  Possible sources include eBay, Craigslist, Goodwill, etc., as well as
> folks on  lists like this one.
>
> I've been looking for an old Sanyo VM-4209 or  VM-4509 monochrome monitor
> for a while, to put on my SOL-20. One of those  would be Just Right for the
> SOL-20, as well as for an early Apple II series  machine. The few I've seen
> have been in poor shape, yet listed for RARE L@@K  STEVE JOBS prices. I
> recently found a younger monitor via Goodwill. It's about  a decade too
> new to be
> Just Right for my SOL-20, but it at least has similar  boxy styling to the
> monitor I'd really like. Newer monitors like that are a  lot less rare, and
> still tend to have more reasonable prices. Something like  that might suit
> your needs well.
>
> Now, you say you want a color monitor.  I think that similar color CCTV
> monitors are even more commonly available. I  haven't been paying close
> attention to them since I've been looking for a  specific monochrome
> monitor, but I
> think I've seen various color ones bouncing  off my brain's spam filters. I
> think that one of the small, boxy, color CRT  CCTV monitors might look
> quite nice with your IIc.
>
> --
> Mark J.  Blair, NF6X  
> http://www.nf6x.net/
>
>
>

Re: Wanted: small composite CRT monitor

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

Does it have to be a CRT ? There a quite a few small LCD displays that take
NTSC

-pete

On Aug 22, 2017 3:51 PM, "John Ames via cctech" 
wrote:

> I picked up an Apple IIc this past weekend and I want to set it up
> with a small monitor on my desk at work. Unfortunately, I seem to have
> gotten rid of the small composite monitor that I know I had at one
> point, so I don't have a good spare monitor that isn't a bit too large
> for my workspace. I've been poking around looking at some options, but
> I'm still waiting to find a decent one in my area, and if I'm going to
> order online, I'd rather do it with people I can trust to actually
> test the dang thing before selling it and pack it properly.
>
> In short, I'm looking for a small NTSC CRT monitor or portable TV in
> the 7-12" range. I'm not stuck on aesthetics, but it would be nice to
> have something that would sit nicely atop the IIc. I wouldn't mind an
> actual Apple monitor, but I don't want to pay APPLE MAC IPHONE STEVE
> JOBS L@@K prices; otherwise, I'd be happy with any suitable composite
> video monitor, color or monochrome. If you happen to be within
> reasonable driving distance of Folsom, CA, I'd be glad to pick it up
> and save the trouble of shipping. Anybody got one to spare?
>
>

Re: This Is Such An Exciting Listing!

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

A few years ago I got fed up with someone who kept telling how valuable his
stuff was based on eBay (asking) prices.

So I put a new US penny up for sale and has a buy it now price of $100 USD.
Next time I saw him I asked why he had
not bought it.

-pete

On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 6:44 PM, Mike Stein via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Yeah, but I bet it's relatively quiet...
>
> m
> - Original Message -
> From: "Chuck Guzis via cctalk" 
> To: "Ed via cctalk" 
> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 6:10 PM
> Subject: Re: This Is Such An Exciting Listing!
>
>
> > Also, there's the prizewinner in the "slowest hard drive" category:
> >
> > http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-MAP3367NC-33P3373-36GB-1000-
> RPM-3-5-Ultra-320-SCSI-HDD-Hard-Drive/201908724683
> >
> > --Chuck
>
>

Re: Olivetti Programma 101 on EBay

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

I miss the two Wang 360s+heads I had, more so now that I've seen on eBay a
Teletype interface.

Some day will have one again

-pete

On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Mazzini Alessandro via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> We could debate about wang having a precedence. Various consider the
> Programma101 the real first personal computer
>
> -Messaggio originale-
> Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] Per conto di Chuck
> Guzis via cctalk
> Inviato: sabato 19 agosto 2017 20:55
> A: Rick Bensene via cctalk
> Oggetto: Re: Olivetti Programma 101 on EBay
>
> On 08/19/2017 11:00 AM, Rick Bensene via cctalk wrote:
>
> > The Programma 101 is indeed a benchmark machine in electronic calculator
> history.   While not the first programmable electronic calculator as many
> claim, it definitely set the standard for a long time (especially during
> this particularly frenetic period of electronics development), until the HP
> 9100A came out in '68.  I don't want to diminish its place in history
> in any way.  But...
>
> It's interesting that there appear to be relatively few listing for old
> Wang calculators.   Surely they hold precedence over the Olivetti boxes
> and the HP ones.
>
> I can vaguely remember sitting in front of a LOCI-2 and giving up trying
> to figure it out.
>
> --Chuck
>
>
>
>
>

Re: I want these computers from Myrtlebeach, NC - seller won't ship.

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

First try to find someone on the list. Then if the seller wont ship, will
s/he take them to a pack and ship outfit ?

I've packed and shiped for people and my only "charge" is you do the same
someday.

My desire to keep this stuff running is to me worth the hour or two and the
few $'s it costs.

Although not CC, The last equipment I arranged to find homes for

https://goo.gl/photos/b9EtEiSkuuzZCJ5WA

Over a ton.

-pete








On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 5:35 PM, steven stengel via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Early 90's pen systems.
>
>
> https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/sop/6225365248.html
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Sperry UTS 40 on EBay - Statesboro, Georgia

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

If the item ended normally at its listing time, which looks like it did.
The seller can do what he wants.

If the seller removed it and brought it back at a higher price, its hits
one side of a gray area.

if the seller removed the item and there were bids against it, eBay will
take an interest in the seller and ( via its database's ) watch what goes
on which is ...

If the seller has a pattern of doing the able, and if the seller is a small
fish, good chance the seller will be gone ( and usually come back under a
different name, all it takes is another bank card and address, like say his
brother or buddy down the street)

If above and the seller is a big fish, say around 5,000 or more items at  a
time, the seller can do what the heck they want and eBay wont do a thing.



On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 2:06 PM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Ali via
> > cctalk
> > Sent: 01 August 2017 19:00
> > To: 'Bill Gunshannon' ; 'General
> Discussion:
> > On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' 
> > Subject: RE: Sperry UTS 40 on EBay - Statesboro, Georgia
> >
> > > Report him to ebay.
> > >
> >
> > What for? eBay doesn't care. Not saying you shouldn't as a matter of
> principle
> > but don't expect much.
> >
>
>
> Many years ago I reported someone for doing this repeatedly for the same
> item. I remember that one listing actually complained about the complaints.
> So they obviously approached him/her, not sure it made that much difference
> in the end, but it was satisfying.
>
> Regards
>
> Rob
>
>
>

Re: Freight Shipping

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

$250 for those dimension across the country is a pretty good quote via LTL,
do you know what class the quote was done against ?

As to not being able to strap down, its pretty easy. Go to you cheapie
parts house or if you have a Harbor Freight get 4 web tie downs. 4 if not
long enough for each.

If you can get it to a LTL'ers dock and you know them well enough they will
strap it down for you, might have to hand the guy doing it $10.

Or find a place that ships a lot of stuff and do the same there.

Oh .. and find a place that receives a lot of large shipments and you can
usually get for free plenty of corner and edge protectors.

I haven't had to pay for LTL size shipping supplies in 20 years.



On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 6:03 AM, Paul Koning via cctech <
cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote:

>
> > On Jul 31, 2017, at 11:15 PM, Ali via cctech 
> wrote:
> >
> > I know this topic comes up pretty regularly and I am sorry to post about
> it again but any recommendations for a freight shipper from Atlanta, GA to
> LA, CA?
> >
> > I am trying to ship an empty 22U Rack. The seller can wrap it and place
> it on a pallet but cannot strap it down.
>
> That sounds like a problem.  If it's not strapped down, it is unlikely to
> stay on the pallet.
>
> Standard shipping straps may be hard to find for an amateur, but small
> truck type webbing ratchet straps can be found at car parts stores and will
> hold something like this perfectly well.
>
> paul
>
>
>

Re: 1/2 tape in Bell ESS5

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

That was suppose to be 1ESS NOT a 5

On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 11:53 AM, Pete Lancashire 
wrote:

> Anyone know the spec s for the tape drives in a ESS5 exchange ?
>

Re: 1/2 tape in Bell ESS5

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

I got things totally mixed up, The email to the CC list was suppose to be
1ESS and other one to a different list was suppose to be 5ESS



On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 2:00 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org
> wrote:

>
> http://www.tape-replacement.com/support/lucent-at-t-5ess/
>
> I've seen M4 Data 9914V drives configured for 48v and At part numbers
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5ESS_Switching_System
>
> On 7/30/17 11:53 AM, Pete Lancashire via cctalk wrote:
> > Anyone know the spec s for the tape drives in a ESS5 exchange ?
> >
>
>
>

1/2 tape in Bell ESS5

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

Anyone know the spec s for the tape drives in a ESS5 exchange ?

Sperry UTS 40 on Ebay - Statesboro, Georgia

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

No association with the seller, just passing the info on 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/142458218680

Re: Looking for scan of Diablo/Xerox 630 ECS service manual

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

Found it, went back to bitsavers again and it was there. My call is posting
to CC made it show up :-)

-pete

On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 7:34 PM, Pete Lancashire 
wrote:

> Got a 630 ECS today. Hardly looks used. bypassed the cover switch, power
> light comes on but sadly hitting reset a 1/2 second later it is locked up
> again.
>
> Has that famous Allen Bradly (or if not from the USA, substitute your
> favorite resistor company)  smell.
>
> BTW this winter want to restore a OEM Hytype I that has seen damage from
> bad storage but had never been removed from its plywood shipping base.
>
> -pete
>

Looking for scan of Diablo/Xerox 630 ECS service manual

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

Got a 630 ECS today. Hardly looks used. bypassed the cover switch, power
light comes on but sadly hitting reset a 1/2 second later it is locked up
again.

Has that famous Allen Bradly (or if not from the USA, substitute your
favorite resistor company)  smell.

BTW this winter want to restore a OEM Hytype I that has seen damage from
bad storage but had never been removed from its plywood shipping base.

-pete

Re: Teletype vs Mice

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

Been though it before,  and a friend who is an electrician and was laid up
in the hospital for a few days after updating the wiring of a barn.

Everything was sprayed with what I call "No-live" it is used in hospitals
and for an hour or so pretty nasty stuff. Then I use a spray that targets
HPS as one of its main killers.
I later did the whole bed of the truck and the area around where I unloaded.

For those on the list that don't think it can happen to them

https://www.cdc.gov/hantavirus/hps/transmission.html








On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 1:54 PM, Ed Sharpe <couryho...@aol.com> wrote:

> ecch! happy hunta virus eh.
> please wear respirator and gloves Pete.
>
> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
> --
> On Monday, July 24, 2017 william degnan via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Pete Lancashire via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> > Although not 100% CC, I had the same happen to a PDP11/35 about 20 years
> > ago that was in storage.
> >
> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/PbuCIaiigqtP7Dhx2
> >
>
>
> Ug. Too many times I have seen something like this.
>