[cctalk] Response from the list manager
Is it just me? I have recently sent an email to this guy about two different topics. There was no response in either case. What is going on? Or am I missing something? Many thanks, peter vp
[cctalk] Minicomputer front panel.
I know this is sacrilege but I am looking for the front panel of a *Data General Nova *and/or *a DEC PDP 8/11/12/15*. Why? I collect artefacts from the days of the minicomputer and earlier and I want them for my collection/display. They should be not too damaged and of course do not need to be functional. I would be willing to pay postage/freight. Any offers? Any offers? Peter PS Please don't shout at me!
Vintage computers Swap-meets in Knoxville region
Between the 30th of March and the 20th of April. I am a computer collector from England and specialise on computer artefacts from the 1940s to the 1970s. and would love to attend one of these when visiting my son in TN. Many thanks, peter vp
Stage 2 Macroprocessor
Guys, Has anyone out there in the big wide world there got a version of the Stage 2 Macroprocessor than is ready to run on a Windows PC? I don't mean the build-it-yourself version. Refer to https://www.researchgate.net/publication/234809181_The_mobile_programming_system_STAGE2 . Many thanks, peter vp
Re: AOL CD and other old PC software...
I have a collection of British magazine CDs and DVDs from the mid-1995ish to 2013ish. They contain tools, programs, etc. I tried 5 and they mounted under Win10 so they should work on old win releases: XP,7,8? Would anyone be interested in acquiring these? Talk to me and we can work out how. peter || | | || | | || Peter Van Peborgh 62 St Mary's Rise Writhlington Radstock SomersetBA3 3PD UK 01761 439 234 "Our times are in God's wise and loving hands" || | | || | | ||
RE: cctech Digest, Vol 72, Issue 9
Thanks -Original Message- From: cctech On Behalf Of cctech-requ...@classiccmp.org Sent: 09 September 2020 18:00 To: cct...@classiccmp.org Subject: cctech Digest, Vol 72, Issue 9 Send cctech mailing list submissions to cct...@classiccmp.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cctech-requ...@classiccmp.org You can reach the person managing the list at cctech-ow...@classiccmp.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of cctech digest..." Today's Topics: 1. ftgh 95 ohm coax (Don Stalkowski) 2. Re: AW: CGA card (Mitsubishi Electric) with 192K RAM? (Jules Richardson) 3. Re: ISO: DEC VR100 and early X releases (Matt Burke) 4. Re: NetWare 5.1 / BorderManager 3.5 (Liam Proven) 5. Re: AW: CGA card (Mitsubishi Electric) with 192K RAM? (Liam Proven) 6. RE: ISO: DEC VR100 and early X releases (Electronics Plus) 7. Re: AW: CGA card (Mitsubishi Electric) with 192K RAM? (Fred Cisin) 8. Re: AW: CGA card (Mitsubishi Electric) with 192K RAM? (Doug Jackson) 9. Re: AW: CGA card (Mitsubishi Electric) with 192K RAM? (Fred Cisin) 10. Re: NetWare 5.1 / BorderManager 3.5 (Grant Taylor) 11. Re: ISO: DEC VR100 and early X releases (jim stephens) 12. Re: NetWare 5.1 / BorderManager 3.5 (Grant Taylor) 13. Re: NetWare 5.1 / BorderManager 3.5 (Liam Proven) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 12:33:07 -0400 (EDT) From: dst...@execulink.com (Don Stalkowski) To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: ftgh 95 ohm coax Message-ID: <20200908163307.241BDBEEAD4@cel2.x> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ftgh: a few lengths of 95 ohm coax pickup-only here in London, ON -- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 16:12:09 -0500 From: Jules Richardson To: Fred Cisin via cctalk Subject: Re: AW: CGA card (Mitsubishi Electric) with 192K RAM? Message-ID: <30e83f7c-26ee-0ad0-907d-cd6a3efa4...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed On 9/7/20 6:18 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > Floppy boot seems like the next step. OK, it boots off a DOS 3.3 floppy if that floppy is inserted before it attempts to boot from the hard disk. If I wait for it to do its "system file not found" bit, followed by a subsequent prompt to insert boot media and press a key, it attempts to access the floppy drive but then goes off into la-la land. Odd. But anyway, taking the successful floppy boot route, I can certainly access the hard disk in terms of bringing up directory listings and TYPEing files to the display. So far, attempts to run anything from the drive just result in a lock-up (keyboard immediately unresponsive, hard reset required). There appear to be DOS utils on the drive, and command.com, but I've not checked for hidden system files yet. fdisk shows the partition as active. > Got an IBM "Advanced Diagnostics" floppy to try? No, but I see that the minuszerodegrees site has an image, so I'll write that out and see what happens. Looking at the drive contents, incidentally, I didn't see anything that explains (or interacts with) that unusual video hardware - it basically just holds DOS and a bunch of documents written by the original owner. Maybe they got suckered into buying this fancy graphics hardware without having any actual need for it, and then of course EGA and VGA came along and rendered it obsolete anyway. > XT controllers tended to NOT be interchangeable, even between various > OEMs of Xebec! Yes - something that people often seem to forget, too. I've run into that quite often, where someone will hang onto an old drive because of the contents, but they'll dump the controller that it was formatted against. > I don't know what the incompatability was. I don't think there was any kind of standard at all for what the low level looked like - vendors were free to do what they wanted in terms of what values they used for flags and how they actually ordered things within the sector header. I suppose there were some tweaks made over time for optimization or reliability (or at least, recovery) reasons, too, which is why even a single vendor had a few different incompatible formats. I expect it was the same in the SCSI and IDE worlds, but of course with those "the controller" which handles formatting is really part of the package, so it wasn't an issue. Jules -- Message: 3 Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 23:11:01 +0100 From: Matt Burke To: Josh Dersch via cctalk Subject: Re: ISO: DEC VR100 and early X releases Message-ID: <91d46a24-04df-20c7-d154-d17064116...@9track.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On 05/09/2020 20:19, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote: > While I'm at it -- anyone know > precisely what I need to use
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Guys, Anyone interested in my eBay posted punched card selection? https://www.ebay.co.uk/mys/active Thanks, Peter vp
The Old Calculator Museum - Oregon
Guys, I seem to have lost contact with Rick Bensene of that museum for the last 10 days. Can anyone tell me if he is ok? Many thanks, peter
Ancient transistor ?computer board (Peter Van Peborgh)
Guys, I now know it is an early CDC board. IT had C*NT*OLDATA on the reverse - how I missed that must be attributed to old age. (Thanks Doug) Here are shots of the back: https://photos.app.goo.gl/UPozyBB3zp7XYcP79 Any idea what the row of hole opposite the contacts were? Testing points? But then why holes and not short pillars? Some are labelled on both sides. Continuing in hope, peter
Ancient transistor ?computer board (Peter Van Peborgh)
OK, now here are some pics that should be available to everybody. I hope. https://photos.app.goo.gl/h64tye8ecmPHQfJD7 Smells of (early) 1960s transistorized. No helpful marking apart from * "GATE JJ01" on SIDE A. (components). * "C NT OL DATA" on side B (solder traces). Big transistors are Motorola "180376008". Also, any ideas what the "246 636 B" boxes are, they have four legs? A curse on TinyURL and praise to Camiel Vanderhoven. peter
Ancient transistor ?computer board (Peter Van Peborgh)
Sorry guys about the unusable tera-URLs. To reiterate, I have acquired this board and have trouble assigning it to a particular computer manufacturer and type: Try this for the photos: https://tinyurl.com/ydxnzh9g and https://tinyurl.com/yb6z3utv Smells of (early) 1960s transistorized. No helpful marking apart from * "GATE JJ01" on SIDE A. (components). * "C NT OL DATA" on side B (solder traces). Big transistors are Motorola "180376008". Also, any ideas what the "246 636 B" boxes are, they have four legs? Can any of you of mature years suggest anything? Many thanks, ( praise be to TinyURL), peter
Ancient transistor ?computer board
Guys, I have acquired this board and have trouble assigning it to a particular computer manufacturer and type: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/byRPH3wCR2aqxGX9U8BZfFTT_XtF7QCKSyVXoNmGIk UheiJ5BWqxYaCWdEshppLGYkOqUD7fl9XNeVzO_tDRKVOtbC3Js7T-pOvNUHs9MY9A36fc7dU6ro 1i7hx9Uhcfc6ukEGIdC5Ac6aTQhEFFoeWBxiI6Z24hZdvq1r6vRb4o-Lj778Wbo15hwxu0JxMuxE tcopNv0FG0_g6nUv0Eofalqu4TmgPfUWVCd4Y4LdA0pnhDRMYF5c2ASzS00TsyukCVrUyr298tjo vztVzUGEPHNL1beVCriuQIBLITaEMX3N8EBDuxpfav0vHFuyy9yfAgUI4uJB9qT6aFGEk2KplIVt yNWZf9phTdj-jLtqns9WvdA9Ur2klrk4uPzMyWg6SKTKRlpMrvbJuMnqZodzxPFPvWCG5--kVVBD KRAXW8xOTOPyxXx0xrcPifO49ni2SFYIkZgTb9d4gzvJaM8ugEb-jqHlc7uqHz5glwe4PfoN838w zMozr43veZSNHRTm9IMfON-w7xvbVufJpa_MzhuaTlKf9pvVcRIuxfhG4pMeVq7K6phhHpsKPfG5 h4BRgDSimCE8mToI35IWS3Ty8j01-6bibKH_kB-t35aIdkv7JIC-YZ1sDoguSdyk8h1xbM2d9i_U LFQYVC0oCHESgEGdqzGO3ntgwmV4khjgaQkcp2Bk-TuC7Nwrl57JI=w654-h871-no?authuser= 0 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/HvltevPwIvyJF0qiAJR6wCAkI4lHfFGL2Gos5uoT4a qEJNFBAwJ3m6XX8E6k0m515EYgZJMaCwFGXiGiTCkxDeT396EjsbkukK3_XYqNDjfU8o3Pbtdq8z vm_q7MXShANXVFUL2wjXEbAhvBug1h42tZnxpDaxTCeNIHjqF2bgs6J_S3wCjmx538E4AuHCHxrr CqIr8yvL7AGlZXCWe8u05YNNZbIrUCYHbTtxh15hc0SwfRPzQ2U2v-pPxHs7-rx5mPpwxovbp24a CdwLBf5RRvvEZWZgyDGKG8xdF-al4kQdZMgxrVVXFMse3ee_J-QaYgALUxckGeWp2QxM4wolrd8Q Y1PqaMaTgbws5WSrOeBBBZrhmrUeL4TzZAlCA4-FqtRpoPIA339y9JRixB8Q6LlUeNsWzlqGqkvC JSCHlh_hpCXgwemhOtF4B1CLvNGs-PSZjTsnj_KOeSgeINz5Sc6TCrHmnxCcIY6D42aKMJRHZ9I9 7Z02FLsKwN6IKLxjifZvrkmEX4L8qXLbd8cuF0uf1PMjwC9WNC1_QpOmMiJOrBloG9pdrHRGvmfR RPQE7c6_HxVklEpIbxqkLmQVkKF-oM8VYS3A11tvslxiZUcvQcEhuEYhPLoqTD8PDikYhxKyVLhq S0DC-bIVBDDLeqiegQelHFjhptKwgs-0Q5mMrxvE6rdsd6-ipEf5Q=w654-h871-no?authuser= 0 Smells of (early) 1960s transistorized. No helpful marking apart from * "GATE JJ01" on SIDE A. (components). * "C NT OL DATA" on side B (solder traces). Big transistors are Motorola "180376008". Also, any ideas what the "246 636 B" boxes are, they have four legs? Can any of you of mature years suggest anything? Many thanks, peter || | | || | | || Peter Van Peborgh 62 St Mary's Rise Writhlington Radstock SomersetBA3 3PD UK 01761 439 234 "Our times are in God's wise and loving hands" || | | || | | ||
Odd punched cards
Guys, I got a positive response about the Port-A-Punch cards so no longer any need to respond to this one. Very encouraging. Still looking for Jacquard cards and original Hollerith cards. Hope springs eternal. peter || | | || | | || Peter Van Peborgh 62 St Mary's Rise Writhlington Radstock SomersetBA3 3PD UK 01761 439 234 "Our times are in God's wise and loving hands" || | | || | | ||
Looking for new punched card type
Following on from my previous post re punched cards, thank you for replying. I am following up where I can. Now, however, I realize that the IBM Port-A-Punch requires a special type of cards. Does anyone have 1 to 3 of these they can spare. (I already have the instrument.) Many thanks, peter || | | || | | || Peter Van Peborgh 62 St Mary's Rise Writhlington Radstock SomersetBA3 3PD UK 01761 439 234 "Our times are in God's wise and loving hands" || | | || | | ||
Unusual Punched Cards
Guys, I have been collecting all types of computer punched cards for a few years now. In the distant past I actually used them! I am desperately looking for two types I do not have been able to find a sample of: * Jacquard fabric/carpet loom cards. OK, not computer but the ancestor, for completeness of the history. There may be several formats of these. * Original Hollerith card, 12 rows by 24 columns. Once again, this is a long shot. Well if you don't ask, you never get! Thank you for your interest. Peter
Re message 5 on Tuesday the 12th of February "Old IBM magnetic media" - 2321 etc...
Sir, I have a great interest in collecting vintage media. I am also desperate to get hold of 2321 artifacts. Please talk to me as soon as you can. Many thanks, Peter VP
IBM 2321 Data Cell
Hello again everyone! This is my regular visit to CCTECH trying to find an example (or two) of this weird and wonderful piece of IBM mass storage for my ancient computer collection. For a description, seehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_2321_Data_Cell . Hope springs eternal, thank you for your patience, peter
CDC modules
Guys, I am wanting to determine which CDC (or possibly other) computer some of my modules came from. If you were a CDC employee around the time of CDC 6xxx computers, let me know where I could send my photos for identification of these items. Many thanks, peter || | | || | | || Peter Van Peborgh 62 St Mary's Rise Writhlington Radstock SomersetBA3 3PD UK 01761 439 234 || | | || | | ||
Data General Eclipse microcode manual
Guys, Do any of you know where I could get hold of DG document(s) describing the microcode of their Eclipse family. It was wide yellow manual with brown plastic ring binding. It brings back happy but foggy memories. "The Soul of the New Machine"(book) tells me that the instruction set was built from the microcode by some genius overnight. Probably an urban myth! Who knows. Many thanks, peter
CDC transistor boards
Gentlemen of advanced years who can remember CDC, cradle of Cray. Can you tell me which CDC computer type these three boards belonged to? It is for labeling purposes in my personal museum. https://postimg.cc/crJHv3Lt https://postimg.cc/Z0HnYH4h https://postimg.cc/6TtTNgs0 I am sure this will be easy for the right person. Many thanks! peter
Researching IBM rare equipment from 50s to 80s
Fellow geeks of more mature vintage, Do any of you guys know whether it is possible to find out to whom any IBM equipment was sold back in the day? (Still chasing IBM 2321 Data Cell - I never learn!) Many thanks, peter || | | || | | || Peter Van Peborgh 62 St Mary's Rise Writhlington Radstock SomersetBA3 3PD UK 01761 439 234 || | | || | | ||
IBM 3850 cartridge
Do any of you more venerable IBM types know of a way to open one of these to extract the tape contained inside? It looks a bit fiddly but there might be a trick to it. (Apart from having the mass storage system itself.) Many thanks to you for your information and also to Mr Kossow who kindly let me have some of these. Peter vp || | | || | | || Peter Van Peborgh 62 St Mary's Rise Writhlington Radstock SomersetBA3 3PD UK 01761 439 234 || | | || | | ||
A weird and ancient IBM offline memory device
Vintage geeks, Third attempt - hope springs eternal! Do any of you know where I could get hold of IBM 2321 "Data Cell" media? 1960s-1970s. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_2321_Data_Cell If you do, I would like to get hold of one. Many thanks, Peter PS Apologies if I am boring you. || | | || | | || Peter Van Peborgh 62 St Mary's Rise Writhlington Radstock SomersetBA3 3PD UK 01761 439 234 || | | || | | ||
Rolm computers
I would be interested in any Rolm items you might have. (no promises.) Thanks, Peter VP || | | || | | || Peter Van Peborgh 62 St Mary's Rise Writhlington Radstock SomersetBA3 3PD UK 01761 439 234 || | | || | | ||
Unknown US manufacturer - victory!
Many thanks to all for the detective work. The page 3-34 mentioned is in a Lawrence Livermore course manual on Fundamentals of Digital Sytems Training. I love you all and will try to test you again soon. peter || | | || | | || Peter Van Peborgh 62 St Mary's Rise Writhlington Radstock SomersetBA3 3PD UK 01761 439 234 || | | || | | ||
Unknown US manufacturer - try again
Guys, See these photos: https://scontent.flhr2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/35682272_10216634445119982_2 53889771863015424_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0=74459af2e9232dd433046b2a9d43dedd=5BC F55A0 and https://scontent.flhr2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36244235_10216691120256825_4 287682979926376448_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0=e8ab72feb9eb1cf311c7ef0546318e44=5C 1358C6 The photos are of a board I recently obtained for my collection. I've not, to date, been able to discover who the manufacturers were. It almost certainly US, The chips are week 27 of 1970, NAND gates. Can anyone help? Many thanks, peter || | | || | | || Peter Van Peborgh 62 St Mary's Rise Writhlington Radstock SomersetBA3 3PD UK 01761 439 234 || | | || | | ||
Weird and ancient IBM offline memory devices
Vintage techie guys and girls, Second attempt - hope springs eternal. Do any of you know where I could get hold of IBM 3850 Mass storage and IBM 2321 Data cell media? 1960s-1970s. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_3850 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_2321_Data_Cell If you do, I would like to get hold of one of each. Many thanks, Peter
Historic IBM memory tech
Vintage techie guys and girls, Do any of you know where I could get hold of IBM 3850 Mass storage and IBM 2321 Data cell media? 1960s-1970s. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_3850 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_2321_Data_Cell If you do, I would like to get hold of one of each. Many thanks, Peter || | | || | | || Peter Van Peborgh 62 St Mary's Rise Writhlington Radstock SomersetBA3 3PD UK 01761 439 234 || | | || | | ||
