Re: AC magnetic field strengths

2017-03-17 Thread dwight via cctalk
Al

 You should also measure at about 1 inch. It is an inverse square decrease

with distance. The rate of drop off is related to the starting point and the

shape of the field.

Some have a flat field out to some distance before they start the inverse square

drop off.

Dwight



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That is in fact how I spot degauss CRT screens, but using a flat wood
boring bit (metal, obviously, instead of a paint stick) with the magnet
stuck on the end, spun around with a drill.

- J.

On 3/16/2017 6:37 PM, dwight via cctalk wrote:
> It sounds like one can make a fine tape degausser by connecting
>
> a super magnet to the end of a paint stirring rod and use a drill
>
> to spin it.
>
> Dwight
>
>
> 
> From: cctalk<cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org>  on behalf of Tapley, Mark via 
> cctalk<cctalk@classiccmp.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 11:51:07 AM
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: Re: AC magnetic field strengths
>
> On Mar 15, 2017, at 12:01 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk<cctalk@classiccmp.org>  
> wrote:
>
>> I bought an AlphaLabs GM-2 Gaussmeter for another project, and measured the 
>> AC magnetic
>> field strength touching these devices yesterday, since I really didn't have 
>> any idea beyond
>> order of magnitude what they might be
>>
>> Handheld tape head demagnetizer: 40 Gauss
>> GC Elec 9317 CRT degausing coil: 70 Gauss
>> Audiolab TD-3 desktop bulk eraser: 1000 Gauss
>> Inmac 7180 or
>> RS 44-233A handheld bulk tape erasers: 2000 Gauss
>>
>>
>>
>> also the DC field of a 1/4" button super magnet like on the
>> backs of clip on badges is about 3000 Gauss
> More context available at:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_(magnetic_field)
>
> ranging from 50 femtoGauss (what the Gravity Probe B SQUID magnetometers 
> measured with several days’ averaging) to 100 MegaGauss (strongest pulsed 
> field ever obtained at Sandia Labs).
>
> Interestingly that page claims 12.5 kGauss for a "neodymium–iron–boron (Nd2 
> Fe14 B) rare earth magnet” (subscripts on the atomic symbols got converted to 
> plain text during cut-n-paste). Guess the badges have weaker versions?
>
> Interesting to compare earth field and the badge fastener field to practical 
> exposure limit for pacemakers - only about a factor of 10 at the poles - and 
> to loudspeaker coils, which are 5000 times above the recommended pacemaker 
> limit.
>
> Now I know why people with pacemakers don’t like rock music (and name tags)!
>
> :-)
>
>  - 
> Mark
>
>
>



Re: AC magnetic field strengths

2017-03-16 Thread js--- via cctalk


That is in fact how I spot degauss CRT screens, but using a flat wood 
boring bit (metal, obviously, instead of a paint stick) with the magnet 
stuck on the end, spun around with a drill.


- J.

On 3/16/2017 6:37 PM, dwight via cctalk wrote:

It sounds like one can make a fine tape degausser by connecting

a super magnet to the end of a paint stirring rod and use a drill

to spin it.

Dwight



From: cctalk<cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org>  on behalf of Tapley, Mark via 
cctalk<cctalk@classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 11:51:07 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: AC magnetic field strengths

On Mar 15, 2017, at 12:01 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk<cctalk@classiccmp.org>  
wrote:


I bought an AlphaLabs GM-2 Gaussmeter for another project, and measured the AC 
magnetic
field strength touching these devices yesterday, since I really didn't have any 
idea beyond
order of magnitude what they might be

Handheld tape head demagnetizer: 40 Gauss
GC Elec 9317 CRT degausing coil: 70 Gauss
Audiolab TD-3 desktop bulk eraser: 1000 Gauss
Inmac 7180 or
RS 44-233A handheld bulk tape erasers: 2000 Gauss



also the DC field of a 1/4" button super magnet like on the
backs of clip on badges is about 3000 Gauss

More context available at:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_(magnetic_field)

ranging from 50 femtoGauss (what the Gravity Probe B SQUID magnetometers 
measured with several days’ averaging) to 100 MegaGauss (strongest pulsed field 
ever obtained at Sandia Labs).

Interestingly that page claims 12.5 kGauss for a "neodymium–iron–boron (Nd2 
Fe14 B) rare earth magnet” (subscripts on the atomic symbols got converted to plain 
text during cut-n-paste). Guess the badges have weaker versions?

Interesting to compare earth field and the badge fastener field to practical 
exposure limit for pacemakers - only about a factor of 10 at the poles - and to 
loudspeaker coils, which are 5000 times above the recommended pacemaker limit.

Now I know why people with pacemakers don’t like rock music (and name tags)!

:-)

 - Mark







Re: AC magnetic field strengths

2017-03-16 Thread dwight via cctalk
It sounds like one can make a fine tape degausser by connecting

a super magnet to the end of a paint stirring rod and use a drill

to spin it.

Dwight



From: cctalk <cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org> on behalf of Tapley, Mark via 
cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 11:51:07 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: AC magnetic field strengths

On Mar 15, 2017, at 12:01 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> 
wrote:

> I bought an AlphaLabs GM-2 Gaussmeter for another project, and measured the 
> AC magnetic
> field strength touching these devices yesterday, since I really didn't have 
> any idea beyond
> order of magnitude what they might be
>
> Handheld tape head demagnetizer: 40 Gauss
> GC Elec 9317 CRT degausing coil: 70 Gauss
> Audiolab TD-3 desktop bulk eraser: 1000 Gauss
> Inmac 7180 or
> RS 44-233A handheld bulk tape erasers: 2000 Gauss
>
>
>
> also the DC field of a 1/4" button super magnet like on the
> backs of clip on badges is about 3000 Gauss

More context available at:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_(magnetic_field)

ranging from 50 femtoGauss (what the Gravity Probe B SQUID magnetometers 
measured with several days’ averaging) to 100 MegaGauss (strongest pulsed field 
ever obtained at Sandia Labs).

Interestingly that page claims 12.5 kGauss for a "neodymium–iron–boron (Nd2 
Fe14 B) rare earth magnet” (subscripts on the atomic symbols got converted to 
plain text during cut-n-paste). Guess the badges have weaker versions?

Interesting to compare earth field and the badge fastener field to practical 
exposure limit for pacemakers - only about a factor of 10 at the poles - and to 
loudspeaker coils, which are 5000 times above the recommended pacemaker limit.

Now I know why people with pacemakers don’t like rock music (and name tags)!

:-)

- Mark



Re: AC magnetic field strengths

2017-03-15 Thread Tapley, Mark via cctalk
On Mar 15, 2017, at 12:01 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk  
wrote:

> I bought an AlphaLabs GM-2 Gaussmeter for another project, and measured the 
> AC magnetic
> field strength touching these devices yesterday, since I really didn't have 
> any idea beyond
> order of magnitude what they might be
> 
> Handheld tape head demagnetizer: 40 Gauss
> GC Elec 9317 CRT degausing coil: 70 Gauss
> Audiolab TD-3 desktop bulk eraser: 1000 Gauss
> Inmac 7180 or
> RS 44-233A handheld bulk tape erasers: 2000 Gauss
> 
> 
> 
> also the DC field of a 1/4" button super magnet like on the
> backs of clip on badges is about 3000 Gauss

More context available at:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_(magnetic_field)

ranging from 50 femtoGauss (what the Gravity Probe B SQUID magnetometers 
measured with several days’ averaging) to 100 MegaGauss (strongest pulsed field 
ever obtained at Sandia Labs).

Interestingly that page claims 12.5 kGauss for a "neodymium–iron–boron (Nd2 
Fe14 B) rare earth magnet” (subscripts on the atomic symbols got converted to 
plain text during cut-n-paste). Guess the badges have weaker versions?

Interesting to compare earth field and the badge fastener field to practical 
exposure limit for pacemakers - only about a factor of 10 at the poles - and to 
loudspeaker coils, which are 5000 times above the recommended pacemaker limit. 

Now I know why people with pacemakers don’t like rock music (and name tags)!

:-)

- Mark



AC magnetic field strengths

2017-03-15 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
I bought an AlphaLabs GM-2 Gaussmeter for another project, and measured the AC 
magnetic
field strength touching these devices yesterday, since I really didn't have any 
idea beyond
order of magnitude what they might be

Handheld tape head demagnetizer: 40 Gauss
GC Elec 9317 CRT degausing coil: 70 Gauss
Audiolab TD-3 desktop bulk eraser: 1000 Gauss
Inmac 7180 or
RS 44-233A handheld bulk tape erasers: 2000 Gauss



also the DC field of a 1/4" button super magnet like on the
backs of clip on badges is about 3000 Gauss