RE: Cipher F880 with S100 interface card on local CL

$9.99 a piece? Mind boggling. Marc -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Guzis via cctalk Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 8:15 AM To: cctalk Subject: Re: Cipher F880 with S100 interface card on local CL On 07/10/2017 10:36 PM, Ethan Dicks

Re: Cipher F880 with S100 interface card on local CL

On 07/10/2017 10:36 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote: > Not quite - the $5 Zero is single-core. You have to go to a Pi2 or > Pi3 to get multi-core. > > Still... GHz processor _systems_ (not just bare chips) are dirt cheap. Okay, make that an Orange Pi Zero. Probably a better bang for the buck:

Re: Cipher F880 with S100 interface card on local CL

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 12:47 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > And even that approach is dated today. Good grief--we have multicore > ARM boards like the Pi Zero for, what $5? Not quite - the $5 Zero is single-core. You have to go to a Pi2 or Pi3 to get multi-core.

Re: Cipher F880 with S100 interface card on local CL

On 07/10/2017 01:03 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > On Mon, 10 Jul 2017, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: >> Well, that's the thing. I've been using the STM32F4 series of >> MCUs--cheap, lots of I/Os and an integrated external memory interface. >> Not super-fast; 168 MHz clock, but fast enough

Re: Cipher F880 with S100 interface card on local CL

On Mon, 10 Jul 2017, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: Well, that's the thing. I've been using the STM32F4 series of MCUs--cheap, lots of I/Os and an integrated external memory interface. Not super-fast; 168 MHz clock, but fast enough and 5V tolerant I/Os. And even that approach is dated today.

Re: Cipher F880 with S100 interface card on local CL

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 07/10/2017 09:50 AM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote: > > > I was previously planning to so that, and I still think that the FPGA > > approach would feel more natural to me than using the PRUs. But the >

Re: Cipher F880 with S100 interface card on local CL

On 07/10/2017 09:50 AM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote: > I was previously planning to so that, and I still think that the FPGA > approach would feel more natural to me than using the PRUs. But the > Beaglebone seems like a much more economical approach. I'd need a > processor to control it, an

Re: Cipher F880 with S100 interface card on local CL

> On Jul 10, 2017, at 09:15, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > > You could do a controller using the Beagle Bone black and the PRU devices, > which are 200 MHz 32-bit microcontrollers built into the Bone's processor. That's the scheme I have in mind for making a Pertec

Re: Cipher F880 with S100 interface card on local CL

On 07/10/2017 09:15 AM, Jon Elson wrote: > You could do a controller using the Beagle Bone black and the PRU > devices, which are 200 MHz 32-bit microcontrollers built into the > Bone's processor. I used an FPGA to do a formatted Pertec interface > for my CDC Keystone drives, but if I were to do

Re: Cipher F880 with S100 interface card on local CL

On 07/09/2017 09:22 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 07/09/2017 05:20 PM, jim stephens via cctalk wrote: I have inherited maybe 1000 tapes that I will have to sort and see if there is any salvaging. Not sure if they are any use, but it was a one time opportunity to snag them. The silly

Re: Cipher F880 with S100 interface card on local CL

On 7/9/2017 7:22 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: Anyone need any blank tapes? I've got a dozen or so still in their sealed bags--probably sticky as heck, Sounds like a test case for my Graham Magnetics certifier box. :-) thanks jim

Re: Cipher F880 with S100 interface card on local CL

On 07/09/2017 05:20 PM, jim stephens via cctalk wrote: > I have inherited maybe 1000 tapes that I will have to sort and see > if there is any salvaging. Not sure if they are any use, but it was > a one time opportunity to snag them. The silly thing is that a $15 MCU with a SD card can probably

Re: Cipher F880 with S100 interface card on local CL

On 7/9/2017 1:39 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: Supporting an F880 with one of those would be a tough job--256 byte FIFO, 8-bit DMA transfer. I streamed them without a problem on TX-8 ISA (16 bit card as you remembered), and the TXI. The TC-PC interface could be wirewrapped (we built

Re: Cipher F880 with S100 interface card on local CL

On 07/09/2017 12:57 PM, jim stephens via cctalk wrote: > TC-PC, TX-8, and TC-I. The latter is a PCI board. This is probably a > TX-8. You're right--the card, as much as I can see of it, matches a TX-8. I was thinking of the PCTD-III 8-bit controller. Supporting an F880 with one of those

Re: Cipher F880 with S100 interface card on local CL

On 7/9/2017 12:14 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 07/09/2017 10:43 AM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: Maybe an Overland Data TX-8? http://www.ebay.com/itm/272743761884 Doesn't look like a Computer Logics PCTD16 No, it's not that--the PCTD16 uses ZIP memory--I don't see that. Perhaps an

Re: Cipher F880 with S100 interface card on local CL

On 07/09/2017 01:43 PM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: > On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: >> On 07/09/2017 07:30 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: >>> >>> On 7/8/17 5:18 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: >>> From his photo, it does appear to

Re: Cipher F880 with S100 interface card on local CL

On 07/09/2017 10:43 AM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: > > Maybe an Overland Data TX-8? > http://www.ebay.com/itm/272743761884 > > Doesn't look like a Computer Logics PCTD16 No, it's not that--the PCTD16 uses ZIP memory--I don't see that. Perhaps an Overland TX-16. I don't know if I'd want to

Re: Cipher F880 with S100 interface card on local CL

On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > On 07/09/2017 07:30 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: >> >> >> On 7/8/17 5:18 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: >> >>> From his photo, it does appear to be S100-sized. >> >> I didn't see any 50 pin connectors,

Re: Cipher F880 with S100 interface card on local CL

On 07/09/2017 07:30 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > > On 7/8/17 5:18 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > >> From his photo, it does appear to be S100-sized. > > I didn't see any 50 pin connectors, or regulators. If you look > closely it's 8-bit ISA. You can see the HD connector on the back

Re: Cipher F880 with S100 interface card on local CL

On 7/8/17 5:18 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > From his photo, it does appear to be S100-sized. I didn't see any 50 pin connectors, or regulators. If you look closely it's 8-bit ISA. You can see the HD connector on the back

Re: Cipher F880 with S100 interface card on local CL

On 07/08/2017 04:20 PM, Ian S. King wrote: > S-100?!?!?!? I have a couple of those drives. I don't have anything > with S-100, but isn't there a SS-50 adapter to S-100? I'd love to have > just the interface card. >From his photo, it does appear to be S100-sized.

Re: Cipher F880 with S100 interface card on local CL

On 07/08/2017 04:20 PM, Ian S. King wrote: > S-100?!?!?!? I have a couple of those drives. I don't have > anything with S-100, but isn't there a SS-50 adapter to S-100? I'd > love to have just the interface card. That's what he claims. It could be a completely different bus. --Chuck

Re: Cipher F880 with S100 interface card on local CL

On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 12:23 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Just thought I'd mention running across a guy in the next town peddling > a Cipher F880 streamer with an S100 interface card for $150. Even > includes the (lowboy) rack. > > Let me know if you're interested

Cipher F880 with S100 interface card on local CL

Just thought I'd mention running across a guy in the next town peddling a Cipher F880 streamer with an S100 interface card for $150. Even includes the (lowboy) rack. Let me know if you're interested (I'm in Eugene, OR) --Chuck