Re: Opening RL02 disk pack

2018-12-09 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Fri, 7 Dec 2018, Noel Chiappa wrote: > From>: Christian Corti > I thought that the DEC packs would be similar but no, DEC had to invent > something different... Huh? I thought RL0x drives use an IBM 5440 type pack (as used on the IBM Yes, I mean the mechanism of the handle that

Re: Opening RL02 disk pack

2018-12-07 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Paul Birkel >> I thought RL0x drives use an IBM 5440 type pack (as used on the IBM >> System/3 DEC may have used their own format (and servo track >> stuff), I don't know much about the 5440. > Sounds to me like it was different, but in a good way? I took a

Re: Opening RL02 disk pack

2018-12-07 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Dec 7, 2018, at 11:11 AM, Paul Birkel via cctalk > wrote: > > > Quoted from "DISK DRIVE CONTROL: THE EARLY YEARS" (Abramovitch & Franklin) > https://www.researchgate.net/publication/3206778_A_brief_history_of_disk_dri > ve_control > > "DEC came out with the 125 TPI RL01 disk drive in

RE: Opening RL02 disk pack

2018-12-07 Thread Paul Birkel via cctalk
-Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Noel Chiappa via cctalk Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 10:24 AM To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Cc: j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Re: Opening RL02 disk pack > From>: Christian Corti >

Re: Opening RL02 disk pack

2018-12-07 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From>: Christian Corti > I thought that the DEC packs would be similar but no, DEC had to invent > something different... Huh? I thought RL0x drives use an IBM 5440 type pack (as used on the IBM System/3 - I used one of those at my first computer job, they'd just gotten it in); DEC

Re: Opening RL02 disk pack

2018-12-07 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Thu, 6 Dec 2018, it was written I don't know that anyone did that back in the day - the pack cleaners I'm aware of had arms that wiped the top and bottom surfaces of the platter while the platter was still mounted inside the shell. I know Well I don't have an RL pack cleaner. And in my

Re: Opening RL02 disk pack

2018-12-06 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 12/06/2018 10:28 AM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote: Also, RK05s can be formatted by users (and often were), but owning to embedded servo data, you _can't_ format RL01/RL02 media in the field, so I'd be hesitant to dismantle the hub on an RL02 pack. -ethan I dropped an RL02 that had the only

Re: Opening RL02 disk pack

2018-12-06 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 4:28 AM Christian Corti via cctalk wrote: > Here are some pictures that hopefully clarify my question: > http://computermuseum.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pics/temp/rl02/ > > How do I separate the platter from the top of the cartridge/cover? I don't know that anyone did

Re: Opening RL02 disk pack

2018-12-06 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Thu, 6 Dec 2018, Christian Corti wrote: Well, this is exactly my question: how do I remove the disk (= platter) from the pack (= cartridge). And there are no magnets in the disk pack. Here are some pictures that hopefully clarify my question:

Re: Opening RL02 disk pack

2018-12-06 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Wed, 5 Dec 2018, Michael Fritsch wrote: The top of the middle part of the handle (this with the slider) is only glued slighly at the base part. With a screwdriver it is removeable quite easy. After removing it, it reveals the secret of the mechanism. [...] Before doing this, remove the

Re: Opening RL02 disk pack

2018-12-06 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Thu, 6 Dec 2018, it was written Wait, by 'open' do you mean 'release the bottom dust cover', or 'disassemble and remove all plastic till the platters are fully exposed'? Of course I mean 'disassemble and remove all plastic till the platters are fully exposed'. I know how to remove the

Re: Opening RL02 disk pack

2018-12-05 Thread Marc Howard via cctalk
Sounds like a good youtube video topic... Marc On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 1:38 PM Guy Dunphy via cctalk wrote: > At 02:09 PM 3/12/2018 +0100, Christian wrote: > >Hi, > >how does one open a RL02 disk pack? A couple of packs need cleaning but I > >can't figure out how to open them... > > > Wait, by

Re: Opening RL02 disk pack

2018-12-05 Thread Guy Dunphy via cctalk
At 02:09 PM 3/12/2018 +0100, Christian wrote: >Hi, >how does one open a RL02 disk pack? A couple of packs need cleaning but I >can't figure out how to open them... Wait, by 'open' do you mean 'release the bottom dust cover', or 'disassemble and remove all plastic till the platters are fully

Re: Opening RL02 disk pack

2018-12-05 Thread Michael Fritsch via cctalk
Christian Corti via cctalk wrote: Hi, how does one open a RL02 disk pack? A couple of packs need cleaning but I can't figure out how to open them... Christian The top of the middle part of the handle (this with the slider) is only glued slighly at the base part. With a screwdriver it is

Re: Opening RL02 disk pack

2018-12-05 Thread Guy Dunphy via cctalk
At 08:41 PM 5/12/2018 +1100, I stupidly wrote: >Ha, this made me realize I don't know either. Despite that I now have some >RLO3K-DC >packs, and one RLO2 drive. Typo. That should be RLO2K-DC.

Re: Opening RL02 disk pack

2018-12-05 Thread Guy Dunphy via cctalk
At 12:24 PM 4/12/2018 -0800, you wrote: >On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 5:09 AM Christian Corti via cctalk < >cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > >> Hi, >> how does one open a RL02 disk pack? A couple of packs need cleaning but I >> can't figure out how to open them... >> >> >I was curious to see if there

Re: Opening RL02 disk pack

2018-12-05 Thread Earl Evans via cctalk
On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 5:09 AM Christian Corti via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Hi, > how does one open a RL02 disk pack? A couple of packs need cleaning but I > can't figure out how to open them... > > I was curious to see if there would be any replies to this. I have just shy of 40

Opening RL02 disk pack

2018-12-03 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
Hi, how does one open a RL02 disk pack? A couple of packs need cleaning but I can't figure out how to open them... Christian