Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org

2017-10-10 Thread Doug Ingraham via cctalk 
The whois record for pdp8.org lists its DNS servers as ns.spiritone.com and
ns2.spiritone.com.
What is interesting is that neither of those entries are in the
spiritone.com dns servers from my
point of view.  However DNSStuff can get A records for those queries.  This
means that they are
providing different views probably depending on if you are inside their
network or outside.   And
they probably let DNSStuff in because that makes stuff look less broken.
The simplest solution
is to host the record with the registrar or one of the professional hosting
services.  Usually the
registrar will host the record as part of the registration fee.





On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk  wrote:

>
> > On Oct 8, 2017, at 1:22 PM, Vincent Slyngstad via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> > I wrote to Aaron a couple of days ago, and mentioned Jay's offer to him.
> >
> > I did hear back from him -- he's aware of the problem and does have his
> site backed up.
> > (He didn't volunteer any details about his plans, but I assume he's got
> things in hand.)
> >
> >   Vince
>
> Thanks Vince, I’ve not spoken to Aaron for years, so good to know he’s
> still around.
>
> Zane
>
>
>


-- 
Doug Ingraham
PDP-8 SN 1175

Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org

2017-10-08 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk 

> On Oct 8, 2017, at 1:22 PM, Vincent Slyngstad via cctalk 
>  wrote:
> 
> I wrote to Aaron a couple of days ago, and mentioned Jay's offer to him.
> 
> I did hear back from him -- he's aware of the problem and does have his site 
> backed up.
> (He didn't volunteer any details about his plans, but I assume he's got 
> things in hand.)
> 
>   Vince 

Thanks Vince, I’ve not spoken to Aaron for years, so good to know he’s still 
around.

Zane

Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org

2017-10-08 Thread Vincent Slyngstad via cctalk 

I wrote to Aaron a couple of days ago, and mentioned Jay's offer to him.

I did hear back from him -- he's aware of the problem and does have his site 
backed up.
(He didn't volunteer any details about his plans, but I assume he's got things 
in hand.)


   Vince

Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org

2017-10-07 Thread Ed via cctalk 
Maybe Jay can locate him  and  offer to  re host it?
Ed#
 
 
 
In a message dated 10/7/2017 10:25:34 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:

On Sat,  Oct 07, 2017 at 09:01:32AM -0700, Vincent Slyngstad wrote:
[...]
> My  copy appears to be 724MB.  The .zip is 619 MB and the .7z came in
>  at 596 MB.

Interesting. I am again rerunning some download, this time  set to
continue if there were some failed files. And recording it all  via
/usr/bin/script, so I can later skim over it.

BTW, (because  definition of megabyte seems to vary even from one
command to  another):

=>  (971 5):   tar cpf -  PDP8/DUMP_pdp8_org_20171007_0001/ | wc -c
566804480

=> du -skx  PDP8/DUMP_pdp8_org_20171007_0001/pdp-8.org/test-scans/
17128PDP8/DUMP_pdp8_org_20171007_0001/pdp-8.org/test-scans/

=>  tar  cpf - PDP8/DUMP_pdp8_org_20171007_0001/pdp-8.org/test-scans/ | wc  
-c
17530880

> The 16 MB I got for test-scans doesn't look  important, though.  (It
> seems to be several rescans of the H724  schematic.)
> 
>Vince

This is how it looks in  my copy, too.

-- 
Regards,
Tomasz Rola

--
** A C  programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature.   **
** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home   **
** directory. And then the C programmer became  enlightened...  **
** **
** Tomasz Rola mailto:tomasz_r...@bigfoot.com **

Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org

2017-10-07 Thread Tomasz Rola via cctalk 
On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 07:25:16PM +0200, Tomasz Rola wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 09:01:32AM -0700, Vincent Slyngstad wrote:
> [...]
> > My copy appears to be 724MB.  The .zip is 619 MB and the .7z came in
> > at 596 MB.
> 
> Interesting. I am again rerunning some download, this time set to
> continue if there were some failed files. And recording it all via
>  /usr/bin/script, so I can later skim over it.
> 
> BTW, (because definition of megabyte seems to vary even from one
> command to another):
> 
> =>  (971 5):   tar cpf - PDP8/DUMP_pdp8_org_20171007_0001/ | wc -c
> 566804480
> 
> => du -skx PDP8/DUMP_pdp8_org_20171007_0001/pdp-8.org/test-scans/
> 17128   PDP8/DUMP_pdp8_org_20171007_0001/pdp-8.org/test-scans/
> 
> =>  tar cpf - PDP8/DUMP_pdp8_org_20171007_0001/pdp-8.org/test-scans/ | wc -c
> 17530880

Also:

=>  tar cpf - PDP8/DUMP_pdp8_org_20171007_0001/pdp-8.org/scans/ | wc -c
496281600

-- 
Regards,
Tomasz Rola

--
** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature.  **
** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home**
** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened...  **
** **
** Tomasz Rola  mailto:tomasz_r...@bigfoot.com **

Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org

2017-10-07 Thread Tomasz Rola via cctalk 
On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 09:01:32AM -0700, Vincent Slyngstad wrote:
[...]
> My copy appears to be 724MB.  The .zip is 619 MB and the .7z came in
> at 596 MB.

Interesting. I am again rerunning some download, this time set to
continue if there were some failed files. And recording it all via
 /usr/bin/script, so I can later skim over it.

BTW, (because definition of megabyte seems to vary even from one
command to another):

=>  (971 5):   tar cpf - PDP8/DUMP_pdp8_org_20171007_0001/ | wc -c
566804480

=> du -skx PDP8/DUMP_pdp8_org_20171007_0001/pdp-8.org/test-scans/
17128   PDP8/DUMP_pdp8_org_20171007_0001/pdp-8.org/test-scans/

=>  tar cpf - PDP8/DUMP_pdp8_org_20171007_0001/pdp-8.org/test-scans/ | wc -c
17530880

> The 16 MB I got for test-scans doesn't look important, though.  (It
> seems to be several rescans of the H724 schematic.)
> 
>Vince

This is how it looks in my copy, too.

-- 
Regards,
Tomasz Rola

--
** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature.  **
** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home**
** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened...  **
** **
** Tomasz Rola  mailto:tomasz_r...@bigfoot.com **

Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org

2017-10-07 Thread Vincent Slyngstad via cctalk 

From: "Tomasz Rola via cctalk" 
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2017 7:11 AM

On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 10:01:40AM -0400, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:

Did you get it all? Anyone else download it?


I have got - probably - all. It is slightly above 500m in size (first
try kind of misfired, but a second one seems to have yelded). I am
trying to check if there might have been some missing parts that I did
not get, but it looks complete (at least so as there were no dirs
hidden from general public). The site seems to be gone. The address
seems to be gone from DNS, but I may try again later.


My copy appears to be 724MB.  The .zip is 619 MB and the .7z 
came in at 596 MB.


The 16 MB I got for test-scans doesn't look important, though.  (It
seems to be several rescans of the H724 schematic.)

   Vince

Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org

2017-10-07 Thread Tomasz Rola via cctalk 
On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 10:46:14AM -0400, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote:
>> >> Anyone who still has access to it should down-load the entire 
> thing promptly.
>> 
>> > I am
>> > wget -r -np -nc -U lynx -w 2 -l 0 http://pdp-8.org/
>> > right now.
>> 
>> Did you get it all? Anyone else download it?
> 
>I have got - probably - all.
> 
> Did you get /scans/ and /test-scans/?

Yes. This was why I had to do it twice. Robots prevented this at first try.

I have put a line into my /etc/hosts and now I can again access the site.

In case my tar is needed, Jay West wrote he would contact me later.

-- 
Regards,
Tomasz Rola

--
** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature.  **
** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home**
** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened...  **
** **
** Tomasz Rola  mailto:tomasz_r...@bigfoot.com **

Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org

2017-10-07 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt via cctalk 
   > >> Anyone who still has access to it should down-load the entire thing 
promptly.
   > 
   > > I am
   > > wget -r -np -nc -U lynx -w 2 -l 0 http://pdp-8.org/
   > > right now.
   > 
   > Did you get it all? Anyone else download it?

   I have got - probably - all.

Did you get /scans/ and /test-scans/?

Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org

2017-10-07 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt via cctalk 
Might be obvious, but since we know the IP, and that seems to be
stable one can just modify /etc/hosts to have a pdp-8.org address and
just mirror the result that way.

Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org

2017-10-07 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk 
> From: Tomasz Rolak

>> Anyone who still has access to it should down-load the entire thing 
promptly.

> I am
> wget -r -np -nc -U lynx -w 2 -l 0 http://pdp-8.org/
> right now.

Did you get it all? Anyone else download it?

Noel

Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org

2017-10-06 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk 
> On Oct 6, 2017, at 3:06 PM, Tomasz Rola via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> Alas, http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/decemu.html times out. Probably gone
> for good. Or rather, bad.

Not to worry, that’s all on my hard drive, I just need time to move it to my 
own webserver.

Zane

Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org

2017-10-06 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk 
Any DNS records pointing to Aracnet or Spiritone servers, are erratic at best, 
at the moment.

Zane





> On Oct 6, 2017, at 2:07 PM, Ed via cctalk  wrote:
> 
> curious wonder why it  works for some but not all... Ed#
> 
> 
> In a message dated 10/6/2017 1:47:03 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
> cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
> 
>> From: Vincent Slyngstad
> 
>> Aaron's website  seems to be working for me
> 
> Anyone who still has access to it should  down-load the entire thing 
> promptly.
> 
> Noel
>

RE: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org

2017-10-06 Thread Jay West via cctalk 

I was both stuck out of town as well as suffering a local mbox snafu so I
did not see this thread.

If anyone managed to save it, and the owner cannot be contacted/found, I'd
be happy to host it (or at least house it if permission is not obvious).

J

Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org

2017-10-06 Thread Tomasz Rola via cctalk 
On Fri, Oct 06, 2017 at 04:46:56PM -0400, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:
> > From: Vincent Slyngstad
> 
> > Aaron's website seems to be working for me
> 
> Anyone who still has access to it should down-load the entire thing promptly.
> 
>   Noel

I am

wget -r -np -nc -U lynx -w 2 -l 0 http://pdp-8.org/

right now.

Any clues how big this is going to be? 

Alas, http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/decemu.html times out. Probably gone
for good. Or rather, bad.

-- 
Regards,
Tomasz Rola

--
** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature.  **
** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home**
** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened...  **
** **
** Tomasz Rola  mailto:tomasz_r...@bigfoot.com **

Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org

2017-10-06 Thread Ed via cctalk 
curious wonder why it  works for some but not all... Ed#
 
 
In a message dated 10/6/2017 1:47:03 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:

> From: Vincent Slyngstad

> Aaron's website  seems to be working for me

Anyone who still has access to it should  down-load the entire thing 
promptly.

Noel

Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org

2017-10-06 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk 
> From: Vincent Slyngstad

> Aaron's website seems to be working for me

Anyone who still has access to it should down-load the entire thing promptly.

Noel

Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org

2017-10-06 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk 

> On Oct 6, 2017, at 4:19 PM, Tomasz Rola via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> ...
> Of course a site may go any moment. Any site, I mean.

True.  If it's still around (even if only via IP address), judicious use of 
"wget" can preserve the whole thing.  I did that with a particularly 
interesting website I feared might be purged from the Internet, though so far 
it hasn't been.

paul

Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org

2017-10-06 Thread Tomasz Rola via cctalk 
On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 09:09:12PM -0700, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
> I’m not sure if Aaron’s website was offline prior to the last couple
> days or not, as I honestly don’t remember the last time that I
[...]

Hi,

I have loaded the homepage in a browser and were able to download one
papertape image from http://pdp-8.org/papertape/ 

Of course a site may go any moment. Any site, I mean.

-- 
Regards,
Tomasz Rola

--
** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature.  **
** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home**
** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened...  **
** **
** Tomasz Rola  mailto:tomasz_r...@bigfoot.com **

Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org

2017-10-06 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk 
I don’t know what happened to Aaron, I’ve not spoken with him in years.  The 
company he used to work for, which has been housing his website, appears to be 
in the process of falling apart.  

As it happens, I host my DEC Emulation pages with them as well.

Zane


> On Oct 6, 2017, at 8:53 AM, Ed via cctalk  wrote:
> 
> go to archive.org  and  suck down a copy of it.
> multiple  people  should  keep  copies?
> Did  the  fellow   pass away?
> Ed#
> 
> 
> In a message dated 10/6/2017 6:21:36 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
> cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
> 
> 
>> On Oct 6, 2017, at 5:10 AM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk  
>  wrote:
>> 
>> ...
>> Same  here.  I get a "server failed" DNS error when trying to look up  
> pdp8.org.
> 
> I get "No such domain" both from my own DNS server, and from  the one at 
> Google (8.8.8.8).  But "whois" shows the name registered to  Aaron, expiring 
> in March 2018.
> 
> paul
>

Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org

2017-10-06 Thread Ed via cctalk 
OK  got it  but  some  missing  but   some of that seems to be external 
sites that are belly up.
Ed#
 
In a message dated 10/6/2017 8:53:07 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:

go to  archive.org  and  suck down a copy of it.
multiple   people  should  keep  copies?
Did  the   fellow   pass away?
Ed#


In a message dated 10/6/2017  6:21:36 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
cctalk@classiccmp.org  writes:


>  On Oct 6, 2017, at 5:10 AM, Peter Coghlan via  cctalk  
 wrote:
> 
>  ...
> Same  here.  I get a "server failed" DNS error when  trying to look up  
pdp8.org.

I get "No such domain" both from  my own DNS server, and from  the one at 
Google (8.8.8.8).  But  "whois" shows the name registered to  Aaron, 
expiring 
in March  2018.

paul

Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org

2017-10-06 Thread Ed via cctalk 
go to archive.org  and  suck down a copy of it.
multiple  people  should  keep  copies?
Did  the  fellow   pass away?
Ed#
 
 
In a message dated 10/6/2017 6:21:36 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:


>  On Oct 6, 2017, at 5:10 AM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk  
 wrote:
> 
> ...
> Same  here.  I get a "server failed" DNS error when trying to look up  
pdp8.org.

I get "No such domain" both from my own DNS server, and from  the one at 
Google (8.8.8.8).  But "whois" shows the name registered to  Aaron, expiring 
in March 2018.

paul

Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org

2017-10-06 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk 

> On Oct 6, 2017, at 5:10 AM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> ...
> Same here.  I get a "server failed" DNS error when trying to look up pdp8.org.

I get "No such domain" both from my own DNS server, and from the one at Google 
(8.8.8.8).  But "whois" shows the name registered to Aaron, expiring in March 
2018.

paul

Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org

2017-10-06 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk 


Jim Stephens wrote:

On 10/5/2017 11:28 PM, Vincent Slyngstad via cctalk wrote:

From: "Zane Healy via cctalk" 
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2017 9:09 PM
I'm not sure if Aaron's website was offline prior to the last couple 
days or not, as I honestly don't remember the last time that I 
visited, but it's offline now.  Aaron once upon a time, used to work 
for what was a really great ISP, aracnet.com, and that's apparently 
where his website was still being hosted.  Aracnet has vanished under 
rather suspicious circumstances, and with it, both Aaron's website, 
and my DEC emulation pages website.


I'm not sure what's going on, but Aaron's website seems to be working 
for me this evening.


   Vince

Not even slightly working for me.  pdp8.org entered in a browser times 
out.  There are bits and pieces on archive.org.  I tried on a remote 
system in case there was a problem with the domain local to my house.


If the website is something other than the above, that would be my 
problem.  ( I also tried pdp-8.org, times out as well).  pdp8.org is 
registered to Aaron.


Time: 12:30am 10/6/2017 PDT

thanks
jim



Same here.  I get a "server failed" DNS error when trying to look up pdp8.org.

However, one of my ISP's nameservers still has the ip address cached for
pdp8.org as 216.99.193.149.  The pdp8.org webserver is still active on that ip
address, however I cannot display the site in a browser because there are
multiple websites on that ip address and the default one is some art gallery
rather than pdp8.org.

It looks to me that if the domain name hosting is moved elsewhere, the problem
should be sorted out.

If there is a danger of the webserver going away, putting 216.99.193.149 into
a hosts file for pdp8.org (and maybe www.pdp8.org) might allow a browser to
find the site.

Regards,
Peter Coghlan.

Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org

2017-10-06 Thread jim stephens via cctalk 



On 10/5/2017 11:28 PM, Vincent Slyngstad via cctalk wrote:

From: "Zane Healy via cctalk" 
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2017 9:09 PM
I’m not sure if Aaron’s website was offline prior to the last couple 
days or not, as I honestly don’t remember the last time that I 
visited, but it’s offline now.  Aaron once upon a time, used to work 
for what was a really great ISP, aracnet.com, and that’s apparently 
where his website was still being hosted.  Aracnet has vanished under 
rather suspicious circumstances, and with it, both Aaron’s website, 
and my DEC emulation pages website.


I'm not sure what's going on, but Aaron's website seems to be working 
for me this evening.


   Vince

Not even slightly working for me.  pdp8.org entered in a browser times 
out.  There are bits and pieces on archive.org.  I tried on a remote 
system in case there was a problem with the domain local to my house.


If the website is something other than the above, that would be my 
problem.  ( I also tried pdp-8.org, times out as well).  pdp8.org is 
registered to Aaron.


Time: 12:30am 10/6/2017 PDT

thanks
jim

Re: Aaron Nabil & pdp-8.org

2017-10-06 Thread Vincent Slyngstad via cctalk 

From: "Zane Healy via cctalk" 
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2017 9:09 PM
I’m not sure if Aaron’s website was offline prior to the last couple days or 
not, as I honestly don’t remember the last time that I visited, but it’s 
offline now.  Aaron once upon a time, used to work for what was a really great 
ISP, aracnet.com, and that’s apparently where his website was still being 
hosted.  Aracnet has vanished under rather suspicious circumstances, and with 
it, both Aaron’s website, and my DEC emulation pages website.


I'm not sure what's going on, but Aaron's website seems to be working for me 
this evening.


   Vince