Re: %20Storage%20for%201/2"%20open%20reel%20tape

2019-04-09 Thread ben via cctalk

On 4/9/2019 4:40 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:

This particular sort of mess often occurs when somebody uses a character 
that isn't part of the basic set.
The subject line mentioned half inch.  SOME program "did a favor" for 
its user, and changed "1 / 2" to a single character for one half.
And/or took the symmetrical character abreviation for inch, and changed 
that, since "OBVIOUSLY, left, right, and center double quote characters 
are not the same".



Just like the *smart* fpga development program I am using.
A gizillon stupid warnings and smart ass stuff like: "You using a D 
flop/flop with preset  converting to inverted D flip/flop with clear." 
Yet at the same time don't even warn you if IT THINKS it can remove 
whole blocks of logic or warn about .CLK input to a D flip flop is missing.
Testing a CPU with a small program ROM input, and it figured it could 
"remove"stuff. IR[3..2] is stuck at 0 and removing. ARG!

Ben.
PS: now the latest thing in HTML, spacing spaces to format your page
to FIT our screen (not yours).






Re: %20Storage%20for%201/2"%20open%20reel%20tape

2019-04-09 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk

whats with the weird tag on this thread?

%20 is an escaped form of the space character.  Some mail
programs escape all control characters, or even anything
like {} ~.


On Tue, 9 Apr 2019, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote:

Yes but "%20" is the form of escape intended for use with http, not for email.
For email, it should be "=20" and if such escaped characters are included in a
subject line, this is supposed to be indicated by the subject field starting
with a sequence like "=?charset?Q?" to flag the use of what is called quoted
printable encoding.


It's due to the use of "standardized" character encoding.
ASCII, UTF-8, Unicode, . . . 
"Standards are wonderful; everybody can have a unique one of their own."
I asked one of my classes to look up what "standard" means - 
one student came up with a definitive answer: apparently it is a flag on 
a tall pole.   Any definitions having to do with conformation between 
systems are now deprecated.



You mix that with an HTML browser program attempting to be an email 
client, . . .


This particular sort of mess often occurs when somebody uses a character 
that isn't part of the basic set.
The subject line mentioned half inch.  SOME program "did a favor" for its 
user, and changed "1 / 2" to a single character for one half.
And/or took the symmetrical character abreviation for inch, and changed 
that, since "OBVIOUSLY, left, right, and center double quote characters 
are not the same".


Re: %20Storage%20for%201/2"%20open%20reel%20tape

2019-04-09 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
Jon Elson wrote:
> On 04/08/2019 10:26 PM, Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote:
> > whats with the weird tag on this thread?
> >
> >
> %20 is an escaped form of the space character.  Some mail 
> programs escape all control characters, or even anything 
> like {} ~.
>

Yes but "%20" is the form of escape intended for use with http, not for email.
For email, it should be "=20" and if such escaped characters are included in a
subject line, this is supposed to be indicated by the subject field starting
with a sequence like "=?charset?Q?" to flag the use of what is called quoted
printable encoding.

Regards,
Peter Coghlan.


Re: %20Storage%20for%201/2"%20open%20reel%20tape

2019-04-09 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk

On 04/08/2019 10:26 PM, Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote:

whats with the weird tag on this thread?


%20 is an escaped form of the space character.  Some mail 
programs escape all control characters, or even anything 
like {} ~.


Jon


Re:%20Storage%20for%201/2"%20open%20reel%20tape

2019-04-09 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk

/My small 16mm collection is stored on an open reel tape cart. /

I wonder how tape rings would do on 16mm reels?

You mean the write rings?  They're fixed at the hub size


No, I meant the circumferential hangers.

Since I occasionally processed my own movie film, I usually had plenty of 
the light-tight cans that the blank film was shipped in.  But, usually 
only 100 foot reels, so too small for tape.


Large reels didn't cost MUCH, but it added up.
Some people would scrap old films for the reels, cans, and shipping boxes.
(such as old Doctor Who episodes that probably wouldn't be aired again)



Re:%20Storage%20for%201/2"%20open%20reel%20tape

2019-04-09 Thread Jeff Woolsey via cctalk
> >>/I hit on the idea of using 16mm move film plastic "cans". Much to my 
> >>/>>/surprise, I found that there is still an active market for these 
> >>things. /
> On Mon, 8 Apr 2019, Kevin Monceaux via cctalk wrote:
> >/My small 16mm collection is stored on an open reel tape cart. /
> I wonder how tape rings would do on 16mm reels?
You mean the write rings?  They're fixed at the hub size

As for write rings, most sites had more than they actually need, many
times over.  You really only need as many as you have tape drives...

I've always wanted to make an Olympics logo out of write wrings, but
never could find all the right colors.

I have a couple black ones around the gearshift in my car (like horseshoes).

-- 
Jeff Woolsey {{woolsey,jlw}@jlw,first.last@{gmail,jlw}}.com
Nature abhors straight antennas, clean lenses, and empty storage.
"Delete! Delete! OK!" -Dr. Bronner on disk space management
Card-sorting, Joel.  -Crow on solitaire



Re: %20Storage%20for%201/2"%20open%20reel%20tape

2019-04-09 Thread Adrian Stoness via cctalk
whats with the weird tag on this thread?

On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 10:25 PM Fred Cisin via cctech 
wrote:

> >>> /My small 16mm collection is stored on an open reel tape cart. /
> >> I wonder how tape rings would do on 16mm reels?
> > You mean the write rings?  They're fixed at the hub size
>
> No, I meant the circumferential hangers.
>
> Since I occasionally processed my own movie film, I usually had plenty of
> the light-tight cans that the blank film was shipped in.  But, usually
> only 100 foot reels, so too small for tape.
>
> Large reels didn't cost MUCH, but it added up.
> Some people would scrap old films for the reels, cans, and shipping boxes.
> (such as old Doctor Who episodes that probably wouldn't be aired again)
>
>