[cctalk] Re: VCF East 2023 photos
It shouldn't be "part of the experience". It's poor planning and poor management of the consignment area on the part of the organizers. This same thing happened at VCF "West" last year and it was a catastrophe. There was a line snaking down the hallway at least a fifty people deep and they were waiting for 2-3 HOURS before it actually started moving. That was 2-3 hours that attendees weren't in the exhibit/speaker hall engaging with the exhibitors and their exhibits, and listening to the speakers. I'm really disappointed to hear that, despite their prior experience, it seems like they have not done anything to address this completely unacceptable and entirely avoidable scenario. Every bit of space that is currently available at InfoAge was used for the event. Attendence jumped over prior years and the demand was unpredictable. The weather in that area can be cold and rainy so outdoors use is limited in planning. I figured there would be blowout attendence at the 3pm streamer panel in Saturday, but crowd wasn't an issue. Meanwhile at the dedicated swap meets at InfoAge attendence wasn't that crazy at the last one. Maybe it's because it's tax return time? If VCF could raise enough money to finish off their new space at InfoAge and get a CO that would help a ton next year. But that is quite a bit of money intertwined with government legal red tape. Trust me there will be big discussions about how to try to fix it for the future. Also the event could use more volunteers for next year as well. - Ethan
[cctalk] Re: VCF East 2023 photos
> On 04/17/2023 9:40 PM GMT Sellam Abraham via cctalk > wrote: > 3am? If that was happening around here then the shotgun would get > involved. Must be mating season. The next-to-last time I was in Canada, they let me sleep in all the way to 5am. Also note that they were *right* outside the window in my room. The only bad thing about my trip. mcl
[cctalk] Re: VCF East 2023 photos
On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 12:17 PM Steve Lewis via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Glad the photos help. I hope the average general public wasn't too > disappointed or discouraged by the crowd on Saturday - but I tried to think > of the positive side, of there still being interest in vintage computing at > all.A "web cam" preview of the consignment might have helped that line > - some were interested in a specific thing, then to wait 45min in line to > find it's already gone. But I guess that's just part of the experience. > It shouldn't be "part of the experience". It's poor planning and poor management of the consignment area on the part of the organizers. This same thing happened at VCF "West" last year and it was a catastrophe. There was a line snaking down the hallway at least a fifty people deep and they were waiting for 2-3 HOURS before it actually started moving. That was 2-3 hours that attendees weren't in the exhibit/speaker hall engaging with the exhibitors and their exhibits, and listening to the speakers. I'm really disappointed to hear that, despite their prior experience, it seems like they have not done anything to address this completely unacceptable and entirely avoidable scenario. Sellam, thanks for the note about the geese!! Honkers, yes, that's very > appropriate! But why Honking at 3am!? haha, maybe I don't want to know!? > 3am? If that was happening around here then the shotgun would get involved. Must be mating season. Sellam
[cctalk] Re: VCF East 2023 photos
Most of these photos were from the 9032 room, not the ballroom's exhibits, but I will share my photos asap too as will others. B On Mon, Apr 17, 2023, 3:18 PM Steve Lewis via cctalk wrote: > Glad the photos help. I hope the average general public wasn't too > disappointed or discouraged by the crowd on Saturday - but I tried to think > of the positive side, of there still being interest in vintage computing at > all.A "web cam" preview of the consignment might have helped that line > - some were interested in a specific thing, then to wait 45min in line to > find it's already gone. But I guess that's just part of the experience. > > For exhibits, the interior noise/acustics got loud and made hard to engage > and ask questions (since you couldn't even hear them across the table). > I also felt a little guilty of intentionally getting there early to get a > close parking spot. I mean, I don't think there is anything really wrong > with that - but if I know I'm going to be there all day, I wouldn't mind > parking further away and taking a shuttle bus. In my defense, I knew I'd > be getting things from consignment and wanted to drop them back to the car > (I just got some of the laptops). > > > Sellam, thanks for the note about the geese!! Honkers, yes, that's very > appropriate! But why Honking at 3am!? haha, maybe I don't want to know!? > > > I'm on travel again for the rest of this week, so kind of rushed to get > notes up today before heading back to the airport. > > > -Steve > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 1:04 PM Brian L. Stuart > wrote: > > > Thank you very much for posting these pictures. I ended up having to > > cancel my plans at the last minute due to covid. Yeah, I had succeeded > > in avoiding it for 3 years, but it finally caught up to me. > > > > BLS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 05:39:04 PM UTC, Steve Lewis via cctalk < > > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Videos are nice, but I still like to make a kind of "scrap book" of > events > > I've been to. Link is below. > > > > Also, most exhibitors were occupied interacting with the public and maybe > > didn't get a chance to see what else was presented at this VCF. Or, > maybe > > they didn't get to see what all else the museum and local area had to > > present - so seeing photos might give them ideas of things to check out > > next time. > > > > Or, in general, for anyone not able to attend, here are some photos also. > > > > https://voidstar.blog/vcf-east-2023/ > > > > > > Feel free to use/share, no permission needed. > > >
[cctalk] Re: VCF East 2023 photos
Glad the photos help. I hope the average general public wasn't too disappointed or discouraged by the crowd on Saturday - but I tried to think of the positive side, of there still being interest in vintage computing at all.A "web cam" preview of the consignment might have helped that line - some were interested in a specific thing, then to wait 45min in line to find it's already gone. But I guess that's just part of the experience. For exhibits, the interior noise/acustics got loud and made hard to engage and ask questions (since you couldn't even hear them across the table). I also felt a little guilty of intentionally getting there early to get a close parking spot. I mean, I don't think there is anything really wrong with that - but if I know I'm going to be there all day, I wouldn't mind parking further away and taking a shuttle bus. In my defense, I knew I'd be getting things from consignment and wanted to drop them back to the car (I just got some of the laptops). Sellam, thanks for the note about the geese!! Honkers, yes, that's very appropriate! But why Honking at 3am!? haha, maybe I don't want to know!? I'm on travel again for the rest of this week, so kind of rushed to get notes up today before heading back to the airport. -Steve On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 1:04 PM Brian L. Stuart wrote: > Thank you very much for posting these pictures. I ended up having to > cancel my plans at the last minute due to covid. Yeah, I had succeeded > in avoiding it for 3 years, but it finally caught up to me. > > BLS > > > > > > > > > On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 05:39:04 PM UTC, Steve Lewis via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > > > Videos are nice, but I still like to make a kind of "scrap book" of events > I've been to. Link is below. > > Also, most exhibitors were occupied interacting with the public and maybe > didn't get a chance to see what else was presented at this VCF. Or, maybe > they didn't get to see what all else the museum and local area had to > present - so seeing photos might give them ideas of things to check out > next time. > > Or, in general, for anyone not able to attend, here are some photos also. > > https://voidstar.blog/vcf-east-2023/ > > > Feel free to use/share, no permission needed. >
[cctalk] Re: VCF East 2023 photos
W2HX, Im hosted by WordPress - and I've noticed this about their sites, the hyperlinks are sometimes "not selectable" (this includes links in images too). I sometimes I have to "wiggle the page" (scroll up or down a bit) first. I'm not sure if it a little easter egg they do to penalize Windows users, or a browser bug in Edge or something. But I've noticed in other WordPress hosted pages, and also when using an entirely different computer (such as at my parents house in Florida). I've been meaning to send them a support message about it, it's something I've noticed for over a year now. On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 12:52 PM W2HX via cctalk wrote: > Thanks for taking the time to document the show. I went to the link > provided and only PART 1 and PART 6 link to other pages. Are parts 2-5 just > not written yet? Or a bug in the html? > > > 73 Eugene W2HX > Subscribe to my Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@w2hx/videos > > > -Original Message- > From: Steve Lewis via cctalk > Sent: Monday, April 17, 2023 1:38 PM > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> > Cc: Steve Lewis > Subject: [cctalk] VCF East 2023 photos > > Videos are nice, but I still like to make a kind of "scrap book" of events > I've been to. Link is below. > > Also, most exhibitors were occupied interacting with the public and maybe > didn't get a chance to see what else was presented at this VCF. Or, maybe > they didn't get to see what all else the museum and local area had to > present - so seeing photos might give them ideas of things to check out > next time. > > Or, in general, for anyone not able to attend, here are some photos also. > > https://voidstar.blog/vcf-east-2023/ > > > Feel free to use/share, no permission needed. >
[cctalk] Re: VCF East 2023 photos
Links are working now. Maybe a problem on my side, or maybe there were fixed. But thanks again for posting this 73 Eugene W2HX Subscribe to my Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@w2hx/videos -Original Message- From: W2HX via cctalk Sent: Monday, April 17, 2023 1:52 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Cc: W2HX Subject: [cctalk] Re: VCF East 2023 photos Thanks for taking the time to document the show. I went to the link provided and only PART 1 and PART 6 link to other pages. Are parts 2-5 just not written yet? Or a bug in the html? 73 Eugene W2HX Subscribe to my Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@w2hx/videos -Original Message- From: Steve Lewis via cctalk Sent: Monday, April 17, 2023 1:38 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Cc: Steve Lewis Subject: [cctalk] VCF East 2023 photos Videos are nice, but I still like to make a kind of "scrap book" of events I've been to. Link is below. Also, most exhibitors were occupied interacting with the public and maybe didn't get a chance to see what else was presented at this VCF. Or, maybe they didn't get to see what all else the museum and local area had to present - so seeing photos might give them ideas of things to check out next time. Or, in general, for anyone not able to attend, here are some photos also. https://voidstar.blog/vcf-east-2023/ Feel free to use/share, no permission needed.
[cctalk] Re: VCF East 2023 photos
Steve, Those "kind of geese-bird" geese are indeed geese, known (appropriately enough) as Canadian Honkers. I usually have a gaggle or at least a pair hanging around the pond on my farm as they migrate through. It's not at all surprising that you could hear them 5 stories up. You could probably still hear them if you were 50 stories up. Sellam On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 10:38 AM Steve Lewis via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Videos are nice, but I still like to make a kind of "scrap book" of events > I've been to. Link is below. > > Also, most exhibitors were occupied interacting with the public and maybe > didn't get a chance to see what else was presented at this VCF. Or, maybe > they didn't get to see what all else the museum and local area had to > present - so seeing photos might give them ideas of things to check out > next time. > > Or, in general, for anyone not able to attend, here are some photos also. > > https://voidstar.blog/vcf-east-2023/ > > > Feel free to use/share, no permission needed. >
[cctalk] Re: VCF East 2023 photos
Thanks for taking the time to document the show. I went to the link provided and only PART 1 and PART 6 link to other pages. Are parts 2-5 just not written yet? Or a bug in the html? 73 Eugene W2HX Subscribe to my Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@w2hx/videos -Original Message- From: Steve Lewis via cctalk Sent: Monday, April 17, 2023 1:38 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Cc: Steve Lewis Subject: [cctalk] VCF East 2023 photos Videos are nice, but I still like to make a kind of "scrap book" of events I've been to. Link is below. Also, most exhibitors were occupied interacting with the public and maybe didn't get a chance to see what else was presented at this VCF. Or, maybe they didn't get to see what all else the museum and local area had to present - so seeing photos might give them ideas of things to check out next time. Or, in general, for anyone not able to attend, here are some photos also. https://voidstar.blog/vcf-east-2023/ Feel free to use/share, no permission needed.
