RE: A few VT-320 and keyboard questions

2019-08-01 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk



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> From: cctech  On Behalf Of Adam
> Thornton via cctech
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> Subject: Re: A few VT-320 and keyboard questions
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> 
> 
> > On Jul 31, 2019, at 7:25 PM, systems_glitch 
> wrote:
> >
> > You can use a LK201 or the seemingly less desirable LK401 with the VT320.
> There are a number of LK201s on eBay right now for reasonable prices. The
> cheap ones are always going to be untested/dirty/possibly missing a key or
> two.
> >
> 
> 
> I ended up springing for one that was a bit more than $50 shipped.  The lot of
> 9 for $150 is very tempting, especially if I could talk them out of some of 
> the
> shipping since I am also in Tucson and wouldn’t mind picking ‘em up, but
> that’s way more keyboards than I am ever going to have DEC terminals, I
> think.
> 
> Adam

I don't know. Don't those also work with VaxStions? You could easily use three 
like that, plus some spares...

Dave



Re: A few VT-320 and keyboard questions

2019-08-01 Thread Adam Thornton via cctalk



> On Jul 31, 2019, at 7:25 PM, systems_glitch  wrote:
> 
> You can use a LK201 or the seemingly less desirable LK401 with the VT320. 
> There are a number of LK201s on eBay right now for reasonable prices. The 
> cheap ones are always going to be untested/dirty/possibly missing a key or 
> two.
> 


I ended up springing for one that was a bit more than $50 shipped.  The lot of 
9 for $150 is very tempting, especially if I could talk them out of some of the 
shipping since I am also in Tucson and wouldn’t mind picking ‘em up, but that’s 
way more keyboards than I am ever going to have DEC terminals, I think.

Adam

Re: A few VT-320 and keyboard questions

2019-08-01 Thread Paul Anderson via cctalk
the cables are known to bad fairly often. Get a known good cable to test
them..

On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 10:31 PM Adam Thornton via cctech <
cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote:

>
>
> > On Jul 31, 2019, at 7:25 PM, systems_glitch 
> wrote:
> >
> > You can use a LK201 or the seemingly less desirable LK401 with the
> VT320. There are a number of LK201s on eBay right now for reasonable
> prices. The cheap ones are always going to be untested/dirty/possibly
> missing a key or two.
> >
>
>
> I ended up springing for one that was a bit more than $50 shipped.  The
> lot of 9 for $150 is very tempting, especially if I could talk them out of
> some of the shipping since I am also in Tucson and wouldn’t mind picking
> ‘em up, but that’s way more keyboards than I am ever going to have DEC
> terminals, I think.
>
> Adam


RE: A few VT-320 and keyboard questions

2019-08-01 Thread Electronics Plus via cctalk
The VT320 can use an LK401 or an LK201. I have a defective LK201 you can have 
for shipping, if you want to repair it.
The M0110 keyboards usually used Alps SKCC tall cream switches. 
https://deskthority.net/wiki/Apple_M0110
I have one complete one 
https://www.elecshopper.com/apple-m0110a-keyboard-mitsumi-japan.html   and an 
M0110 missing a couple of caps that I will sell for half that.

Cindy

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Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 8:33 PM
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Subject: A few VT-320 and keyboard questions

I just picked up a VT-320, with no keyboard.

I have some questions:

1) the price on DEC keyboards, at least on eBay, is insane.  Does anyone have a 
VT-320 keyboard they’d be willing to let go cheaply?

2) …or, failing that, I found a posting of someone who’d done an Arduino-based 
key code mapper that let him use a PS/2 (or maybe it was an AT) keyboard as a 
replacement.  The link to the actual project was dead, though.  Anyone have 
schematic and source code for such a project?

3) If anyone's got a DB-9-or-25-to-MMP cable you’d sell cheap, I’d be happy to 
buy it instead or making my own.  OK, that’s not really a question.  There’s a 
blank insert where the 25-pin connector usually is; was that a “feature” of the 
B2 model?  (that’s a question but not much of one)

…and while I’m here, another question.

4) I have a number of Apple IIs and one III that have sustained some keyboard 
damage.  Where can I get/what is the name of the little plus-shaped keyboard 
stems for those?  If I had a couple dozen that would be most helpful.

Adam=


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Re: A few VT-320 and keyboard questions

2019-08-01 Thread systems_glitch via cctalk
You can use a LK201 or the seemingly less desirable LK401 with the VT320.
There are a number of LK201s on eBay right now for reasonable prices. The
cheap ones are always going to be untested/dirty/possibly missing a key or
two.

The thing to do for MMJ converters is to get a MMJ cable and an adapter.
The 9-pin I use is a H8571-J, I don't have many of those so I can't provide
one. The 25-pin I use is H8575-A, I have a few of those so if you wanted to
buy a MMJ cable and a MMJ -> DB25F, I could sell you that combination for a
reasonable price. I have a huge spool of DEC OfficeConnect branded
Spectra-Strip flat cable, a ton of MMJ crimps, and the necessary crimp die
to make up cables of whatever length you'd like. Contact me off-list if
you're interested.

Thanks,
Jonathan

On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 9:33 PM Adam Thornton via cctech <
cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> I just picked up a VT-320, with no keyboard.
>
> I have some questions:
>
> 1) the price on DEC keyboards, at least on eBay, is insane.  Does anyone
> have a VT-320 keyboard they’d be willing to let go cheaply?
>
> 2) …or, failing that, I found a posting of someone who’d done an
> Arduino-based key code mapper that let him use a PS/2 (or maybe it was an
> AT) keyboard as a replacement.  The link to the actual project was dead,
> though.  Anyone have schematic and source code for such a project?
>
> 3) If anyone's got a DB-9-or-25-to-MMP cable you’d sell cheap, I’d be
> happy to buy it instead or making my own.  OK, that’s not really a
> question.  There’s a blank insert where the 25-pin connector usually is;
> was that a “feature” of the B2 model?  (that’s a question but not much of
> one)
>
> …and while I’m here, another question.
>
> 4) I have a number of Apple IIs and one III that have sustained some
> keyboard damage.  Where can I get/what is the name of the little
> plus-shaped keyboard stems for those?  If I had a couple dozen that would
> be most helpful.
>
> Adam


Re: A few VT-320 and keyboard questions

2019-08-01 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Wed, Jul 31, 2019, 8:33 PM Adam Thornton via cctech <
cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> I just picked up a VT-320, with no keyboard.
>
> I have some questions:
>
> 1) the price on DEC keyboards, at least on eBay, is insane.  Does anyone
> have a VT-320 keyboard they’d be willing to let go cheaply?
>

Isn't it just a lk401? I bought one recently for $55.

2) …or, failing that, I found a posting of someone who’d done an
> Arduino-based key code mapper that let him use a PS/2 (or maybe it was an
> AT) keyboard as a replacement.  The link to the actual project was dead,
> though.  Anyone have schematic and source code for such a project?
>

Unless you are doing this in bulk, I suspect it would be more expensive...
there have been lk201 hack a day stuff, though. Iirc, all the software is
available, but when I went looking, the board layout stuff wasn't.

3) If anyone's got a DB-9-or-25-to-MMP cable you’d sell cheap, I’d be happy
> to buy it instead or making my own.  OK, that’s not really a question.
> There’s a blank insert where the 25-pin connector usually is; was that a
> “feature” of the B2 model?  (that’s a question but not much of one)
>

MMJ is a pita. But getting a normal RJ45 and removing the clip will let you
plug it in and get it working.

Warner

…and while I’m here, another question.
>
> 4) I have a number of Apple IIs and one III that have sustained some
> keyboard damage.  Where can I get/what is the name of the little
> plus-shaped keyboard stems for those?  If I had a couple dozen that would
> be most helpful.
>
> Adam


A few VT-320 and keyboard questions

2019-08-01 Thread Adam Thornton via cctalk
I just picked up a VT-320, with no keyboard.

I have some questions:

1) the price on DEC keyboards, at least on eBay, is insane.  Does anyone have a 
VT-320 keyboard they’d be willing to let go cheaply?

2) …or, failing that, I found a posting of someone who’d done an Arduino-based 
key code mapper that let him use a PS/2 (or maybe it was an AT) keyboard as a 
replacement.  The link to the actual project was dead, though.  Anyone have 
schematic and source code for such a project?

3) If anyone's got a DB-9-or-25-to-MMP cable you’d sell cheap, I’d be happy to 
buy it instead or making my own.  OK, that’s not really a question.  There’s a 
blank insert where the 25-pin connector usually is; was that a “feature” of the 
B2 model?  (that’s a question but not much of one)

…and while I’m here, another question.

4) I have a number of Apple IIs and one III that have sustained some keyboard 
damage.  Where can I get/what is the name of the little plus-shaped keyboard 
stems for those?  If I had a couple dozen that would be most helpful.

Adam

RE: A few VT-320 and keyboard questions

2019-08-01 Thread Electronics Plus via cctalk
The VT320 can use an LK401 or an LK201. I have a defective LK201 you can have 
for shipping, if you want to repair it.
The M0110 keyboards usually used Alps SKCC tall cream switches. 
https://deskthority.net/wiki/Apple_M0110
I have one complete one 
https://www.elecshopper.com/apple-m0110a-keyboard-mitsumi-japan.html   and an 
M0110 missing a couple of caps that I will sell for half that.

Cindy

-Original Message-
From: cctech [mailto:cctech-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Adam Thornton 
via cctech
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 8:33 PM
To: cct...@classiccmp.org
Subject: A few VT-320 and keyboard questions

I just picked up a VT-320, with no keyboard.

I have some questions:

1) the price on DEC keyboards, at least on eBay, is insane.  Does anyone have a 
VT-320 keyboard they’d be willing to let go cheaply?

2) …or, failing that, I found a posting of someone who’d done an Arduino-based 
key code mapper that let him use a PS/2 (or maybe it was an AT) keyboard as a 
replacement.  The link to the actual project was dead, though.  Anyone have 
schematic and source code for such a project?

3) If anyone's got a DB-9-or-25-to-MMP cable you’d sell cheap, I’d be happy to 
buy it instead or making my own.  OK, that’s not really a question.  There’s a 
blank insert where the 25-pin connector usually is; was that a “feature” of the 
B2 model?  (that’s a question but not much of one)

…and while I’m here, another question.

4) I have a number of Apple IIs and one III that have sustained some keyboard 
damage.  Where can I get/what is the name of the little plus-shaped keyboard 
stems for those?  If I had a couple dozen that would be most helpful.

Adam=


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