Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives

2018-09-22 Thread Steve Malikoff via cctalk
Mark said > How about removing the (presumably aluminum) platters, case castings, and any > other aluminum parts, grinding it all down to fine aluminum flakes, making > thermite out of that, then using it to slag the rest of the non-aluminum > parts? > > Then shoot the slag pile with a .50 BMG.

Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives

2018-09-22 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Sat, 22 Sep 2018, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote: J> How about removing the (presumably aluminum) platters, case castings, and any other aluminum parts, grinding it all down to fine aluminum flakes, making thermite out of that, then using it to slag the rest of the non-aluminum parts? Then

Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives

2018-09-22 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2018-09-22 5:28 p.m., Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote: > > How about removing the (presumably aluminum) platters How about drawing a discreet close to this ** offtopic thread.

Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives

2018-09-22 Thread Mark J. Blair via cctalk
How about removing the (presumably aluminum) platters, case castings, and any other aluminum parts, grinding it all down to fine aluminum flakes, making thermite out of that, then using it to slag the rest of the non-aluminum parts? Then shoot the slag pile with a .50 BMG. Then drop that

Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives

2018-09-21 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Alexandre Souza > What about a nuclear bomb? OK, if we're going to start being _really_ silly. drop them into a singularity! :-) The best part is that you'll get to watch them being ripped apart and destroyed by tidal forces _forever_ (since time dilation means that as they

Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives

2018-09-21 Thread Alexandre Souza via cctalk
gt; > Dwight > > > > From: cctalk on behalf of Jerry Weiss via > cctalk > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 2:49:30 PM > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 > disk drives >

Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives

2018-09-21 Thread dwight via cctalk
, 2018 2:49:30 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives On 9/21/18 1:06 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > On Fri, 21 Sep 2018, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote: >> That's way too good for these *

Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives

2018-09-21 Thread Steve Malikoff via cctalk
Noel said > > From: Eric Smith > > > That's way too good for these

Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives

2018-09-21 Thread Jerry Weiss via cctalk
On 9/21/18 1:06 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: On Fri, 21 Sep 2018, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote: That's way too good for these

Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives

2018-09-21 Thread dwight via cctalk
All the molten lava is done. You could still smash it with a lava rock. Dwight From: cctalk on behalf of Chuck Guzis via cctalk Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 11:36:25 AM To: Fred Cisin via cctalk Subject: Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate

Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives

2018-09-21 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
5) as a test suite for development of thermite (Does Amazon sell pre-made thermite?) On Fri, 21 Sep 2018, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote: Mostly #6, and a little bit of #5. I'd be delighted to offer "retaliation in kind for the SS damage of drives of Steve Jackson Games", but I don't think

Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives

2018-09-21 Thread allison via cctalk
On 09/21/2018 12:19 PM, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote: > On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 6:04 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > >> Or just throw it in the garbage. > > That's way too good for these

Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives

2018-09-21 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
> On Sep 21, 2018, at 11:16 AM, Eric Smith via cctalk > wrote: > > On the other hand, > > 1) Reduce the likelihood that they will end up on eBay as "Seller >> Refurbished" or "New, other". >> 1b) to put on eBay as "New, other" or "seller refurbished", WITH PICTURES, >> as a commentary on

Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives

2018-09-21 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Eric Smith > That's way too good for these

Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives

2018-09-21 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
Anyone headed for Hawaii? It'd be interesting to see what some molten lava would do to one... --Chuck

Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives

2018-09-21 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Do any of the rifle ranges near Vegas rent use of a Browning 50 caliber machine gun? (or artillery?) Maybe a VERY high powered laser cutter, to cut the letters N F G THROUGH the drives. Convince North Korea that there would be special symbolism to attaching one to the nosecone of each of

Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives

2018-09-21 Thread Chris Elmquist via cctalk
On Friday (09/21/2018 at 11:42AM -0600), Eric Smith via cctalk wrote: > On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 11:28 AM, Fred Cisin via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > Put it in a gift-wrapped box next to you on the bus. > > Whoever steals it will get just what they deserve. > > > > :-) > > But

Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives

2018-09-21 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 12:06 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Eric hasn't specified [and shouldn't have to] as to WHY, > but here are some idle speculations: > Mostly #6, and a little bit of #5. I'd be delighted to offer "retaliation in kind for the SS damage of

Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives

2018-09-21 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Fri, 21 Sep 2018, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote: That's way too good for these

Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives

2018-09-21 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 12:04:39PM +, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > Or just throw it in the garbage. [...] More satisfying: write "Bitcoins" on it before leaving it lying around somewhere it's likely to get stolen.

Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives

2018-09-21 Thread emanuel stiebler via cctalk
On 2018-09-21 13:42, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote: > On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 11:28 AM, Fred Cisin via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > >> Put it in a gift-wrapped box next to you on the bus. >> Whoever steals it will get just what they deserve. >> > > :-) > > But actually I wouldn't

Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives

2018-09-21 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 11:28 AM, Fred Cisin via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Put it in a gift-wrapped box next to you on the bus. > Whoever steals it will get just what they deserve. > :-) But actually I wouldn't wish ST3000DM001 drives on my worst enemy!

Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives

2018-09-21 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Fri, 21 Sep 2018, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: Or just throw it in the garbage.  Do you really think people are going thru your stuff looking for data? Put it in a gift-wrapped box next to you on the bus. Whoever steals it will get just what they deserve.

Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives

2018-09-21 Thread Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk
If I wanted to reduce a drive to slag, I’d just put it in a propane furnace (actually the drive would go into the crucible). They generate up to 2700F (~1500C) and they’re for melting gold, silver, copper, etc. So I suspect it would do the job. ;-) Plus you’d a nice molten mess that you can

Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives

2018-09-21 Thread Ed Sharpe via cctalk
Hmmm...  OK   take a  giant  sledge and beat the living  hell out  of  it Great  physical release and   data  pretty well   toast... and the sound is glorious!   And  besides you get  some  exercise!   Ed#             In a message dated 9/21/2018 9:20:25 AM US Mountain Standard Time,

Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives

2018-09-21 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 6:51 AM, systems_glitch via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Burning of potassium permanganate to manganese greensand will often get it > going. You are on your own for figuring out how to do that. > Multiple sources, including Robert on this list, tell me just to

Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives

2018-09-21 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 6:04 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Or just throw it in the garbage. That's way too good for these

Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives

2018-09-21 Thread Nemo via cctalk
On 20 September 2018 at 23:20, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote: > Anyone have advice on making thermite? Ingredients, sources, proportions? > NIST SP 800-88 Rev. 1? There is some milspec about sanding the platters that actually specified what grit to use but I do not remember the title. N.

Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives

2018-09-21 Thread drlegendre via cctalk
Take them up to the 'range, around Virginia or Eveleth MN, and pay one of the demo crews to stick the drives at the bottom of their next borehole. Ka-blooey! Nothing left but an artificial bauxite deposit. On Fri, Sep 21, 2018, 7:10 AM Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > I can only assume someone

Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives

2018-09-21 Thread systems_glitch via cctalk
Burning of potassium permanganate to manganese greensand will often get it going. You are on your own for figuring out how to do that. Thermite is not the ultimate destructive force some people seem to think it is. If you're trying to totally liquefy the platters you'll probably need to remove

Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives

2018-09-21 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
I can only assume someone is paying you to do this for insurance or legal purposes. There is a good poem, "John Barleycorn Must Die" which has a lot of useful suggestions. bill On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 8:04 AM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Or just throw it in the

Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives

2018-09-21 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
Or just throw it in the garbage.  Do you really think people are going thru your stuff looking for data? bill On 09/20/2018 11:37 PM, drlegendre via cctalk wrote: > If you're that intent on firey destruction, it would be much simpler & > safer to use an oxyacetylene cutting torch, or a

Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives

2018-09-21 Thread Robert via cctalk
If my memory of O Level chemistry classes is anything to go by, the idea was that you used a piece of Magnesium ribbon to ignite it. I don't recall Manganese Dioxide being part of the recipe. On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 10:20 PM Eric Smith via cctalk wrote: > > Anyone have advice on making thermite?

Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives

2018-09-21 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
Be aware that a cheap way of making fairly pure oxygen is just by heating up manganese dioxide, which will cause anything that is a like a flame to burn much hotter. I remember doing an experiment in grade school where you heat up a tablespoonfull of MD in a test tube with an alcohol burner or

Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives

2018-09-20 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk
I find it enjoyable to disassemble the drives that I want to dispose of. I take all of the metal bits and throw them in my scrap metal recycling bin. I throw the boards in my electronics/e-waste recycling bin. I used to keep the magnets, but I have a pretty good magnet collection now and, with

Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives

2018-09-20 Thread Alexandre Souza via cctalk
Have you heard about a pointy hammer? :) 2018-09-21 0:37 GMT-03:00 drlegendre via cctalk : > If you're that intent on firey destruction, it would be much simpler & > safer to use an oxyacetylene cutting torch, or a plasma cutter. > > On Thu, Sep 20, 2018, 10:20 PM Eric Smith via cctalk < >

Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives

2018-09-20 Thread drlegendre via cctalk
If you're that intent on firey destruction, it would be much simpler & safer to use an oxyacetylene cutting torch, or a plasma cutter. On Thu, Sep 20, 2018, 10:20 PM Eric Smith via cctalk wrote: > Anyone have advice on making thermite? Ingredients, sources, proportions? > > The internet seems

Re: Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives

2018-09-20 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 09/20/2018 08:20 PM, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote: > Anyone have advice on making thermite? Ingredients, sources, proportions? > > The internet seems to think that just using aluminum powder with ferric > oxide is relatively hard to ignite, and that some manganese dioxide would > help with

Advice requested on proper disposal of Seagate ST3000DM001 disk drives

2018-09-20 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
Anyone have advice on making thermite? Ingredients, sources, proportions? The internet seems to think that just using aluminum powder with ferric oxide is relatively hard to ignite, and that some manganese dioxide would help with that. Without spending too much time shopping, it looks like I can