Re: Altair, IMSAI, SWTPC, etc. for sale in Philly

[Brad H]

I got booted from the list when the original post came out for this.  He isn't 
willing to ship I guess?  I wouldn't mind buying the SWTPC 6800 case he has.. I 
have almost everything save a cpu card to build another 6800 unit.


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 Original message 
From: allison <ajp...@verizon.net> 
Date: 2016-11-04  3:50 PM  (GMT-08:00) 
To: cct...@classiccmp.org 
Subject: Re: Altair, IMSAI, SWTPC, etc. for sale in Philly 

That is from the first 2000 to 5000 units its a 8800 no suffix the
ribbon is either A or Bsuffix and
a different CPU board (uses 8224). 

The orange is rosin flux that was not cleaned.   Isopropanol would clean
that but it was built as a
kit (the K suffux on the serial number tag).  Its better to leave it
that way.  Authentic, never cleaned
mine either.

The PS looks to be the original version or the first update (higher
voltage transformer).

I'd expect power supply problems, suspect one-shots (front panel and CPU
clock) and
bus level noise issues.  Assuming the switches are still good.

Allison

On 11/04/2016 09:19 AM, Sam O'nella wrote:
> Out of curiosity and ignorance what's with the solder joints on the cards in 
> the pictures? That orange color seems like it's everywhere around cold 
> looking solder joints.  Is that rust, some sort or protection, or acid 
> corrosion?
>  Original message From: Mark G Thomas <m...@misty.com> Date: 
> 10/31/16 
> I had the pleasure of visiting Rick yesterday. Please see below 
> additional information about remaining items, with links to photos.
> Please contact Rick directly if interested.
>
> Original posting here:
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 08:44:39AM +, steven stengel wrote:
>> ---
>> *  Contact Rick below if interested.  *
>> ---
>> Name: Rick Bunker
>> Contact: r...@bunker.us
>> Location: Jenkintown, PA    
> 10/30/2016 Update:--
>
>> The Altair 8800, a very early one, 4-slot motherboard, 1K ram, ceramic CPU,
>> you will see: https://goo.gl/photos/3C1pzfwFoZ3koPgt9
>>

Re: Altair, IMSAI, SWTPC, etc. for sale in Philly

[allison]

That is from the first 2000 to 5000 units its a 8800 no suffix the
ribbon is either A or Bsuffix and
a different CPU board (uses 8224). 

The orange is rosin flux that was not cleaned.   Isopropanol would clean
that but it was built as a
kit (the K suffux on the serial number tag).  Its better to leave it
that way.  Authentic, never cleaned
mine either.

The PS looks to be the original version or the first update (higher
voltage transformer).

I'd expect power supply problems, suspect one-shots (front panel and CPU
clock) and
bus level noise issues.  Assuming the switches are still good.

Allison

On 11/04/2016 09:19 AM, Sam O'nella wrote:
> Out of curiosity and ignorance what's with the solder joints on the cards in 
> the pictures? That orange color seems like it's everywhere around cold 
> looking solder joints.  Is that rust, some sort or protection, or acid 
> corrosion?
>  Original message From: Mark G Thomas  Date: 
> 10/31/16 
> I had the pleasure of visiting Rick yesterday. Please see below 
> additional information about remaining items, with links to photos.
> Please contact Rick directly if interested.
>
> Original posting here:
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 08:44:39AM +, steven stengel wrote:
>> ---
>> *  Contact Rick below if interested.  *
>> ---
>> Name: Rick Bunker
>> Contact: r...@bunker.us
>> Location: Jenkintown, PA
> 10/30/2016 Update:--
>
>> The Altair 8800, a very early one, 4-slot motherboard, 1K ram, ceramic CPU,
>> you will see: https://goo.gl/photos/3C1pzfwFoZ3koPgt9
>>

Re: Altair, IMSAI, SWTPC, etc. for sale in Philly

[Brad H]

I'm a dork.. my reader was cutting off quotes.. but I saw the direct link to 
Rick in my email.


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Re: Altair, IMSAI, SWTPC, etc. for sale in Philly

[Paul Koning]

> On Nov 4, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Sam O'nella  wrote:
> 
> Out of curiosity and ignorance what's with the solder joints on the cards in 
> the pictures? That orange color seems like it's everywhere around cold 
> looking solder joints.  Is that rust, some sort or protection, or acid 
> corrosion?...
> 
>> The Altair 8800, a very early one, 4-slot motherboard, 1K ram, ceramic CPU,
>> you will see: https://goo.gl/photos/3C1pzfwFoZ3koPgt9

I doubt it's any of those.  That's the typical look of a board hand-soldered 
with conventional rosin core solder.  While it's possible to remove that flux 
(thought I think the best solvents are non-PC), it is often omitted and 
generally not needed.

paul

Re: Altair, IMSAI, SWTPC, etc. for sale in Philly

[Sam O'nella]

Out of curiosity and ignorance what's with the solder joints on the cards in 
the pictures? That orange color seems like it's everywhere around cold looking 
solder joints.  Is that rust, some sort or protection, or acid corrosion?
 Original message From: Mark G Thomas  Date: 
10/31/16 
I had the pleasure of visiting Rick yesterday. Please see below 
additional information about remaining items, with links to photos.
Please contact Rick directly if interested.

Original posting here:
On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 08:44:39AM +, steven stengel wrote:
> ---
> *  Contact Rick below if interested.  *
> ---
> Name: Rick Bunker
> Contact: r...@bunker.us
> Location: Jenkintown, PA    
10/30/2016 Update:--

> The Altair 8800, a very early one, 4-slot motherboard, 1K ram, ceramic CPU,
> you will see: https://goo.gl/photos/3C1pzfwFoZ3koPgt9
> 

Re: Altair, IMSAI, SWTPC, etc. for sale in Philly

[Mark G Thomas]

Hi All,

I had the pleasure of visiting Rick yesterday. Please see below 
additional information about remaining items, with links to photos.
Please contact Rick directly if interested.

Original posting here:
On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 08:44:39AM +, steven stengel wrote:
> ---
> *  Contact Rick below if interested.  *
> ---
> Name: Rick Bunker
> Contact: r...@bunker.us
> Location: Jenkintown, PA    
> I have a computer collection that I have to sell. My wife and I 
> have separated, and the house is being sold, and I have no 
> place to keep the computers in my new apartment.
...
> Is there anybody in striking distance of Philadelphia suburbs, who 
> would consider buying and picking up this collection?
> ---

10/30/2016 Update:
--
> Hi,
>
> If you are getting this, it is because you have expressed interest in my
> old computers.  Here are a lot of pictures, which will be pretty
> self-explanatory I think.  I think I got everything other than a few spare
> 8-inch drives and some boxes of software and documentation.
> 
> The Altair 8800, a very early one, 4-slot motherboard, 1K ram, ceramic CPU,
> you will see: https://goo.gl/photos/3C1pzfwFoZ3koPgt9
> 
> IMSAI 8080 complete system, with monitor and drives 
> https://goo.gl/photos/KjeTN7FR4btah3QM9
>
> A KIM-1 (alas Commodore not MOS) https://goo.gl/photos/JWHn5b8Bvy2g2xNu7
>
> Original Apple ][, not a plus or c or anything.  With Disk ][ controller,
> and original color display.  https://goo.gl/photos/H47sr7oZy6MrCpzJ8
> 
> Original IBM PC, original bios, no hard drive - 2 floppies.  Aftermarket
> keyboard and monitor.  https://goo.gl/photos/nRE1aFrGvPKz2a647
> 
> A beautiful NorthStar Horizon, populated with all NorthStar boards, disk
> drives, memory, controller etc.  https://goo.gl/photos/B9tFYd1Nse2cHdBi8
>
> I paired it with with the LSi terminal. This was the desirable terminal 
> back then:  https://goo.gl/photos/jTkqP6jQhLDozF1HA
>
> A very first gen TRS-80 with all the matching peripherals
> https://goo.gl/photos/ct3ha8XMGEvLRaer6
>
> A KAYPRO luggable with wordperfect keyboard overlay 
> https://goo.gl/photos/moUCaEeMARf1T94k9
>
> A Cromemco, which was a pretty cool multi-user CP/M box that I programmed
> on for one of my earliest programming gigs, just a shell though.  But very
> robust shell: https://goo.gl/photos/aLCg2AjgbCreCVND9
>
> An NEC APC https://goo.gl/photos/YfDovSzaa73zCbVZ6 -- might not be that
> interesting, a little later, but boots and runs CP/M.  I worked on one
> which is why I grabbed it.
> 
> Google Glass, with packaging and stuff 
> https://goo.gl/photos/dDyDG3uWJpQ2wsnQA
>
> "Mario" chromebook.  First chromebook ever.  Works fine.  Given to me by
> GOOG (they were giving them to CIO's to gain feedback).
> https://goo.gl/photos/pycpJtijdLjsxmN29
>
> Some semi-random stuff.  https://goo.gl/photos/edhbov7U6ezcFG3X7
>
> SWTPC 6800 shell https://goo.gl/photos/33on8zYvGJZ6LvnMA
>
> Heathkit training system 6800 based https://goo.gl/photos/E5iFobDVtggqxshE9
>
> Apple ][c with printer, drive, mouse, monitor all matching
> https://goo.gl/photos/B1HjEKkjBhVUtWWT6
>
> Day one original iPhone. https://goo.gl/photos/2dpWEZKGmecU3RgQ8
> 
> TI 99 with a ton of program modules including BASIC
>  https://goo.gl/photos/XyNZRuSwwYHzJiLL7
>
> Let me know if/how you want to move forward.  Please feel free to share
> with anyone you think might be interested.
>
> Rick.
>
> -- 
> Rick Bunker
> r...@bunker.us

-- 
Mark G. Thomas (m...@misty.com), KC3DRE

Re: Altair, IMSAI, SWTPC, etc. for sale in Philly

[Ian S. King]

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 4:34 PM, Glen Slick  wrote:

>
> Good thing I'm not in Philadelphia to blow some money on that collection...
>

Word.  I still want an IMSAI one of these days - but I wouldn't say no to
an Altair if it dropped in my lap.  But I just paid tuition... so I'll just
play with my SWTPC 6800 for now.  (Oh, I want a 6809, too.)
-- Ian

-- 
Ian S. King, MSIS, MSCS, Ph.D. Candidate
The Information School 
Dissertation: "Why the Conversation Mattered: Constructing a Sociotechnical
Narrative Through a Design Lens

Archivist, Voices From the Rwanda Tribunal 
Value Sensitive Design Research Lab 

University of Washington

There is an old Vulcan saying: "Only Nixon could go to China."

Re: Altair, IMSAI, SWTPC, etc. for sale in Philly

[Glen Slick]

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Sam O'nella  wrote:
> No idea why this ended up in my spam folder, but replying just to get it
> one more look as-if it needed any help ;-)

That's a common gmail / yahoo thing. Ended up in my gmail spam folder too.

"Why is this message in Spam? It has a from address in yahoo.com but
has failed yahoo.com's required tests for authentication."

Good thing I'm not in Philadelphia to blow some money on that collection...

Re: Altair, IMSAI, SWTPC, etc. for sale in Philly

[Sam O'nella]

No idea why this ended up in my spam folder, but replying just to get it
one more look as-if it needed any help ;-)  I'm surprised he doesn't ebay
it to be honest.  The last sentence, is that Rick asking or you Steven
asking?

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 3:44 AM, steven stengel  wrote:

>
> 
> *  Contact Rick
> below if interested.  *-
> 
> ---
> Name: Rick BunkerContact: r...@bunker.us Location: Jenkintown,
> PA
> I have a computer collection that I have to sell. My wife and I have
> separated, and the house is being sold, and I have no place to keep the
> computers in my new apartment.
> It is a pretty nice collection. Altair 8800, two IMSAI 8080's, an Apple ][
> (not ][+ or e or anything, the first one), a TRS-80 (the real first
> revision, with no numeric keypad, with the original cassette drive,
> monitor) an LSI monitor, a KIM-1, an original IBM PC (not an XT -- original
> 2-floppys, original bios), an SwTPC 6800 box, with no innards. Similarly, a
> Cromemco box with no innards. A Northstar Horizon.
>
>  Some 8-inch drives, a bunch of S-100 boards, a luggable Kaypro portable,
> an odd and an end or two.
>
> Lots of documentation.
>  Some old disks which may have readable software on them. I don't power
> these things up, since they have power supplies that you can weld with,
> with 40-year-old capacitors on them.
>
> Is there anybody in striking distance of Philadelphia suburbs, who would
> consider buying and picking up this collection?
> 
> 
>
>
>

Altair, IMSAI, SWTPC, etc. for sale in Philly

[steven stengel]

*
  Contact Rick below if interested.  
*
Name: Rick BunkerContact: r...@bunker.us Location: Jenkintown, PA    
I have a computer collection that I have to sell. My wife and I have separated, 
and the house is being sold, and I have no place to keep the computers in my 
new apartment.
It is a pretty nice collection. Altair 8800, two IMSAI 8080's, an Apple ][ (not 
][+ or e or anything, the first one), a TRS-80 (the real first revision, with 
no numeric keypad, with the original cassette drive, monitor) an LSI monitor, a 
KIM-1, an original IBM PC (not an XT -- original 2-floppys, original bios), an 
SwTPC 6800 box, with no innards. Similarly, a Cromemco box with no innards. A 
Northstar Horizon. 

 Some 8-inch drives, a bunch of S-100 boards, a luggable Kaypro portable, an 
odd and an end or two. 

Lots of documentation.
 Some old disks which may have readable software on them. I don't power these 
things up, since they have power supplies that you can weld with, with 
40-year-old capacitors on them. 

Is there anybody in striking distance of Philadelphia suburbs, who would 
consider buying and picking up this collection?