Re: Anybody has Control Data (CDC) disk packs for 841 and 844 disk drives to spare with?

2017-06-08 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jun 8, 2017, at 8:23 AM, Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk > wrote: > > > > On 06.06.2017 20:56, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: >> Agreed, and packs from the 2311, RP03, RK05 era are washable. In fact, I >> remember a pack washing machine. > Hm, hm. > I successfully

Re: Anybody has Control Data (CDC) disk packs for 841 and 844 disk drives to spare with?

2017-06-08 Thread Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk
On 06.06.2017 20:56, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: Agreed, and packs from the 2311, RP03, RK05 era are washable. In fact, I remember a pack washing machine. Hm, hm. I successfully cleaned many RK05 packs from gooey foam and other residue, even after a crash. But... I usually use 100%

Re: Anybody has Control Data (CDC) disk packs for 841 and 844 disk drives to spare with?

2017-06-08 Thread Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk
On 06.06.2017 20:26, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: On 6/6/17 6:10 AM, Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk wrote: And I have cables and lots of spare heads: All submerged since Saturday. I most probly won't try to recover the packs If they really are that rare you may want to reconsider. The cables

Re: Anybody has Control Data (CDC) disk packs for 841 and 844 disk drives to spare with?

2017-06-06 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 6/6/17 11:56 AM, Paul Koning wrote: > >> On Jun 6, 2017, at 2:26 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On 6/6/17 6:10 AM, Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk wrote: >> >>> And I have cables and lots of spare heads: All submerged since Saturday. I >>> most probly

Re: Anybody has Control Data (CDC) disk packs for 841 and 844 disk drives to spare with?

2017-06-06 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
I'm not positive what pack washing machines used. Distilled water seems plausible, perhaps with some sort of mild cleaner. Keep in mind I'm talking about packs, no electronics there. Then again, many electronics are designed to be washed in water (as part of the manufacturing process).

Re: Anybody has Control Data (CDC) disk packs for 841 and 844 disk drives to spare with?

2017-06-06 Thread Anders Nelson via cctalk
Did people actually wash disk packs with water or some electronics-friendly solution? -- Anders Nelson +1 (517) 775-6129 www.erogear.com On Jun 6, 2017 11:56 AM, "Paul Koning via cctalk" wrote: > On Jun 6, 2017, at 2:26 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk

Re: Anybody has Control Data (CDC) disk packs for 841 and 844 disk drives to spare with?

2017-06-06 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jun 6, 2017, at 2:26 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk > wrote: > > > > On 6/6/17 6:10 AM, Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk wrote: > >> And I have cables and lots of spare heads: All submerged since Saturday. I >> most probly won't try to recover the packs > > If they

Re: Anybody has Control Data (CDC) disk packs for 841 and 844 disk drives to spare with?

2017-06-06 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 6/6/17 6:10 AM, Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk wrote: > And I have cables and lots of spare heads: All submerged since Saturday. I > most probly won't try to recover the packs If they really are that rare you may want to reconsider.

Re: Anybody has Control Data (CDC) disk packs for 841 and 844 disk drives to spare with?

2017-06-06 Thread Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk
I have some submerged packs that look like the one in the auction. Wet since Saturday :-( Here's a link to the drive that I'd like to restore some day: http://www.digitalheritage.de/peripherals/cdc/854/854.htm I think I have the same :-) And I have cables and lots of spare heads: All

Re: Anybody has Control Data (CDC) disk packs for 841 and 844 disk drives to spare with?

2017-06-05 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jun 5, 2017, at 10:33 AM, P Gebhardt via cctalk > wrote: > >> ... >> The platters can be replaced with ones from the single-platter IBM 2315 (ie. >> RK05) and use similar head technology which is pretty rugged. > > Yes, I kept the disk packs. However, I guess that

Re: Anybody has Control Data (CDC) disk packs for 841 and 844 disk drives to spare with?

2017-06-05 Thread P Gebhardt via cctalk
Hello Al, >> The surfaces of the disk packs of type 9871 or 871 that came with it where >> corroded and are not usable anymore. > >Did you keep them? > >The platters can be replaced with ones from the single-platter IBM 2315 (ie. >RK05) and use similar head technology which is pretty rugged.

Re: Anybody has Control Data (CDC) disk packs for 841 and 844 disk drives to spare with?

2017-06-04 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 06/04/2017 02:43 PM, jim stephens via cctalk wrote: > Note as a side story, they had been doing something similar to a > source control program, so though the above sounds like a fantastic > amount of software, some times one or two card drawer racks contained > dozens of revisions of the same

RE: Anybody has Control Data (CDC) disk packs for 841 and 844 disk drives to spare with?

2017-06-04 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of jim > stephens via cctalk > Sent: 04 June 2017 22:43 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: Anybody has Control Data (CDC) disk packs for 841 and

Re: Anybody has Control Data (CDC) disk packs for 841 and 844 disk drives to spare with?

2017-06-04 Thread Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk
> On Jun 4, 2017, at 12:02 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > > On 06/04/2017 11:47 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: >> >> >> On 6/4/17 3:35 AM, ANDY HOLT via cctalk wrote: >> >>> I would think it "not too difficult" to build a modern controller >> >> The

Re: Anybody has Control Data (CDC) disk packs for 841 and 844 disk drives to spare with?

2017-06-04 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 6/4/2017 2:11 PM, Rob Jarratt wrote: In my case this is not with the intention of running anything, I don't have an ICL 1905E (!). All I want to do is recover the data on the disk as it may contain what is possibly the only copy anywhere of an operating system that was built at

RE: Anybody has Control Data (CDC) disk packs for 841 and 844 disk drives to spare with?

2017-06-04 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of jim > stephens via cctalk > Sent: 04 June 2017 21:41 > To: Chuck Guzis via cctalk > Subject: Re: Anybody has Control Data (CDC) disk packs for 841 and 844 disk > drives to

Re: Anybody has Control Data (CDC) disk packs for 841 and 844 disk drives to spare with?

2017-06-04 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 6/4/2017 12:02 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: It doesn't even have to be poorly stored. I moved a system with 4 300mb memorex 10 (or so) platter drives eons ago, which had been running for a year or more. After setup and service it ran 2 hours before eating one of the drives. That

Re: Anybody has Control Data (CDC) disk packs for 841 and 844 disk drives to spare with?

2017-06-04 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 06/04/2017 11:47 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > > On 6/4/17 3:35 AM, ANDY HOLT via cctalk wrote: > >> I would think it "not too difficult" to build a modern controller > > The electronics isn't the problem. Getting a poorly stored > electromechanical device to not turn your or any

Re: Anybody has Control Data (CDC) disk packs for 841 and 844 disk drives to spare with?

2017-06-04 Thread ANDY HOLT via cctalk
I am looking for someone who can read an ICL EDS8 disk pack. I am told that it would have been used in an ICT type 2802/2 drive on an ICL 1905E, but that it is also compatible with an IBM 2311 disk drive and that it uses a mechanical assembly based on a CDC 9450. Given the mention of the 2311

RE: Anybody has Control Data (CDC) disk packs for 841 and 844 disk drives to spare with?

2017-06-03 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Al Kossow > via cctalk > Sent: 03 June 2017 18:49 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Anybody has Control Data (CDC) disk packs for 841 and 844 disk > drives to spare with? > > > > On 6/3/17

Re: Anybody has Control Data (CDC) disk packs for 841 and 844 disk drives to spare with?

2017-06-03 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 6/3/17 10:21 AM, P Gebhardt via cctalk wrote: > The surfaces of the disk packs of type 9871 or 871 that came with it where > corroded and are not usable anymore. Did you keep them? The platters can be replaced with ones from the single-platter IBM 2315 (ie. RK05) and use similar head

Anybody has Control Data (CDC) disk packs for 841 and 844 disk drives to spare with?

2017-06-03 Thread P Gebhardt via cctalk
Hello everybody, recently, there was an US epay auction with a CDC 849 disk pack. http://www.ebay.com/itm/292129988099 This pack is for the early CDC 851/852 disk storage drives and thus not of interest for me, as the packs I am looking for my 854 drive have a different amount of sectors